Nat and Kat examine Elon Musk’s 1971 birth, Tesla’s 2004 launch, and his tumultuous family history—IVF children, a 2008 divorce, and secret twins born in December 2020. His July 2021 Twitter withdrawal over bot claims sparked legal battles, while his contradictory stances on free speech, COVID policies, and gender issues reveal ideological inconsistencies. Musk’s push for higher birth rates clashes with his own fatherhood record and Errol’s admitted paternity fraud, exposing a hypocritical focus on reproduction over responsibility. Ultimately, their critique frames Musk as a flawed visionary whose personal contradictions undermine his public influence. [Automatically generated summary]
Hello and welcome to Misunderstood, the show for the politically and culturally misunderstood lady or gent.
Could be either.
We are your hosts.
Non-binary.
I'm Nat and I'm Kat.
And today we're talking about Elon Musk.
Who?
Elon Musk.
Well, if you don't know who that is, we're going to tell you.
Have you never heard of Elon Musk?
Well, perfect, because you are in for a treat.
We're going to tell you who he is.
And before you close the browser, we have some interesting things we want to talk about.
We have a little bio.
Why is he important?
We're going to talk about his multiple children.
Yes.
Twitter.
Can we trust him?
Is he conservative?
Is he conservative now?
Hard to say, guys, but guess what?
We're going to dumb debunk.
We're going to dive in.
We're going to dive in.
So where should we begin?
Well, he was born.
He was born in 1971.
I'm thinking Africa.
South Africa.
We're doing like a southern accent.
I was born in South Africa.
So that means he is the richest man in the world and he's also an African.
Yeah.
Wow, guys.
Wow.
Well, Americans can count far somehow.
Probably not.
His mother was Canadian.
His father, South African.
We'll talk about his dad a little more later in the show.
Interesting.
Interesting stuff.
Interesting guy.
He has some siblings.
Not super important.
I mean, there's a lot here.
we don't have to go yeah I mean he has a life let's skip to when he was an adult yeah So hold on.
I would like to point out that he was bullied super badly in school, so badly that he was pushed down a flight of stairs and ended up in the hospital.
That's sad.
And I'd like all those bullies to suck it.
Yeah.
Like, who's laughing now, bullies?
Not you guys.
Not you guys, because he is rich as hell.
Okay.
Anyway, so he actually attended Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario, where he met his first wife.
And then he transferred to UPenn, where he received his bachelor degree of physics and economics in 1997.
He enrolled in graduate school at Stanford in California, but he left after only two days because, you know, he's so smart.
He was like, I'm done with school.
Let's go make some money.
So it's funny because they say that he enrolled in physics and then dropped out because he wanted, he thought the internet was the future, which, yeah.
But then it's like, well, I'm actually going to build rockets.
So that's kind of physics, my boy.
Which he's done.
Yeah.
Which he did.
Which he's done very successfully.
What else do we have here?
Oh, in 2004, he founded, he became one of the major funders of Tesla Motors, which was later renamed Tesla.
Just before 2004, he got married.
Yes.
So that's important.
Yes.
In 2002.
And in 2004, him and his wife, Justine, had their first baby who sadly died of sudden infant death syndrome.
Yeah.
Super sad.
But then, yeah, in 2004 as well, he became the major funder of Tesla.
Then he had a bunch of kids.
Then he just started having kids with like everyone.
Yeah.
So in 2004, him and Justine welcomed twins conceived through IVF.
You're going to hear that a lot because our boy Elon Musk loves him some in vitro fertilization.
Pray for his sperm.
Yeah.
We don't know what's going on.
We don't know though.
Yeah.
And then in 2006, he welcomed triplets through IVF.
So those that five was with Justine Musk, the only woman to take the Musk name.
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Yes.
Luckily, lucky lady.
And then in 2008, they actually divorced.
Oh, too soon.
Then he started dating Singer Grimes in May of 2018.
He actually got married.
Oh, yeah, in between, but they didn't have any kids.
And he also dated Amber Heard for a hot minute.
A hot minute.
Yikes.
Yikes.
So we all make mistakes, Elon.
It's okay.
So Data Grimes in 2018, she gave birth to their son XAXC in May 2020.
And even though they split in September of the following year, they quietly welcomed a baby girl via surrogate in December.
But he also had other kids in December.
Same year he had secret twins with one of his executives at Neuralink.
Neuralink.
So he's been busy.
He's been a very, very busy guy.
Yeah.
And then of course.
Yeah, so many kids.
And then, of course, we all know about his Twitter deal, which kind of actually was inspired by Babylon B getting booted off Twitter.
I didn't know that.
Yes.
Interestingly enough, for those of you who don't know Babylon B, Google it.
They're hilarious.
Yeah, they copied us.
So, JK, we copied them.
We copied them.
Yeah.
So should we talk about like his Twitter stuff?
Yeah, so like jumping to the very end quickly, as of July 8th, we don't know what's happening.
No.
Because Twitter is suing him.
But how did we get there, you ask?
You might not know.
Maybe you do.
Maybe you're just watching for fun.
Maybe you're watching for the fashion.
I would.
Yeah, so I think it's important to start with like why he decided he wanted to buy it.
Of course, we mentioned Babylon B, but he really wanted to ensure that it operated as a free speech forum for all.
And I just want to quote him, if that's okay.
And this is why he's kind of gained popularity with conservatives recently.
We can talk more about that later as well.
But he said, free speech is the bedrock of a functioning democracy, and Twitter is the digital town square where matters vital to the future of humanity are debated.
I also want to make Twitter better than ever by enhancing the product with new features, making the algorithms open source to increase trust, defeating the spam bots, and authenticating all humans.
Twitter has tremendous potential.
I look forward to working with the company and the community of users to unlock it.
So basically he was going to make everyone verified, which is really the real reason why I want him to go through with his purchase because I keep getting rejected.
And of course the bots.
Yeah, the bots as well.
So this is an interesting point.
I like how he mentions it's a virtual town square or sorry, is the digital town square.
That is something that people debate all the time because public or private.
Exactly.
So people who are pro-censorship will say, well, it's a private company.
They can do whatever they want.
And while that may be true for a Christian bakery, Twitter, in my opinion, is the public square.
Yeah.
And it's like basically like you, by not being on Twitter, if you're cut off of it, you have to go and make your own social media network, Donald Trump.
And that's rough.
Yeah.
You have to invite people to it and they don't want to use it.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And Twitter's been established for like decades now.
And that's what we're all used to.
And honestly, it's just the best.
Like it's the best, unfortunately, despite its many flaws.
Yes.
So maybe skipping forward a little bit.
One more thing.
Yeah, of course.
So while I do believe that Twitter is the public square and should be free for all, the thing is it still will be regulated by somebody.
So if it's not regulated, and I heard this argument on Joe Rogan or something, and because I was like, what would be the argument by a free speech absolutist to saying that it should be not a private company controlling it?
And the answer is that if it's not a private company who's monitoring it, it's the government.
Yeah.
And that could be real bad.
Which is why even scarier.
Yeah.
So if Elon Musk is the guy in charge, great, because he agrees with some of the things we think.
But what if he doesn't?
Yeah.
And he doesn't always.
Well, and the thing is, too, like the direction Twitter is headed right now, like we're already facing so much censorship and shadow banning and all that and stuff.
And one of the reasons why Musk is kind of maybe backing out of this deal is because There are a lot of more bots than he thought.
I think it was like he, they wanted to claim that only 5% of their daily active users are bots.
And it seems like that's not the case.
There are more.
So even if the sale doesn't go through, he basically proved that there are a crap ton of bots on social media, which is important because that means spam accounts are manipulating the algorithm and influencing our cultural and political landscape.
Like it's so important.
And so, and at the very least, he's exposing these lies, and that's so important.
I think so important.
Like, no matter what you think of the guy, yeah.
And he made a funny meme.
And, you know, maybe he's so he thinks he's his assertion is that he wanted to know how many bots were on Twitter.
And Twitter was like, We're not disclosing that.
So then he's like, Okay, I'm pulling out of the deal.
And then they're like, We're going to sue you.
And he's like, Oh, okay.
So I guess in court, we'll have to disclose how many bots are on the site.
Yeah.
LOL.
So it's kind of a win-win.
Yeah.
So maybe he like he would like to have us believe that he had this planned all along, like he's playing 4D chess.
Maybe he is.
He's super smart.
But maybe it's just a coincidence.
And it's like, we'll find out.
So yeah, as I said, as of July 8th, no one really knows what's going on.
Twitter said that they're going to take him to court to hold him to the deal.
And they're very confident that they can do so.
And maybe he's like, fine, I still want to buy it, but you have to show me, show me a paypus.
Yeah, exactly.
Plus, though, he even vowed to pay a billion dollars if the sale doesn't go through.
Like, talk about having FU money.
Imagine you were just like, okay, I'm not going to buy it, but here's a billion dollars.
I could only afford a million dollars.
Yeah.
So I can't even imagine.
Well, dinner's on cat, everybody.
But when this, when he originally announced that he was going to be purchasing Twitter, conservatives were a little bit skeptical.
Some jumped the gun and were like jumping on the bandwagon and praising him.
And I actually find that to be a little problematic because any public, like I find that conservatives in general, whenever anyone kind of sort of seems like they're somewhat conservative, we just jump on the bandwagon.
And it's like, we should kind of think, like pause and be like, oh, yeah, this might be a good thing, but we don't need to like idolize this person.
Yeah.
You know?
Well, that's one of the articles here, right?
But daredebris.
Conservatives should be careful not to overpraise Elon Musk.
And my first point here is humans should be careful not to overpraise anyone except for God.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's what happens.
We're all human and we're flawed.
So exactly what you said, there was a lot of conservatives that were like, oh, this is going to change the world.
Like this is a, he's a free speech savior or something like that.
Maybe they didn't say savior.
Well, it's like, it's not like he's really a conservative.
He's not a social conservative by any means.
And we'll kind of get into that maybe a little bit more.
So it's like, yes, I respect that he is a free speech advocate, but that doesn't mean I align with him on anything else.
And some of the other things that I don't align with him on are actually more important than Twitter, you know?
And like, we don't need to align with his values or agree with him to appreciate what he's doing.
But as Christians and conservatives, like we should think critically and just not get up in the get caught up in the popular narrative because it sounds good, you know?
Because we don't really know his heart or his motives at the end of the day.
Yeah.
So some of the things that he is very not conservative about, he's like, this is a quote from this article from National Review.
Musk has taken progressive positions on a whole host of issues from immigration restrictions to climate change and abortion.
And also when Trump withdrew the U.S. from the Paris Climate Accord, Musk resigned in protest from all of the Trump administration CEOs advisory councils on manufacturing jobs and economic policy.
So he's also donated thousands of dollars to the Democratic Party.
And after the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade was leaked, they announced that they would cover healthcare and travel costs for employees seeking out-of-state abortions.
So, you know, which is like kind of ironic.
It's well, he's so pro-life.
He's so populate the earth.
Yeah, he doesn't call himself pro-life, but he calls himself pro-popular.
Yeah.
But it's also funny because you and I have discussed this.
It's a lot cheaper for a company to pay for your abortion than to send you on matte leave because in the states they don't have federal mat leave like we do here.
So the company, if they want to pay for it, it's private.
Exactly.
So if Elon Musk, who is in the eye of the public, doesn't want to get a ton of flack, he would probably be paying mat leave for his company, his employees.
And it's a lot cheaper to send someone on a bus ride or give them gas money to go get an abortion than it is to pay for them for 18 months to raise their child.
Yeah.
So not really all that kind and generous, folks.
But on the other side of the coin, he's also called COVID lockdowns fascist and he's written that gender pronouns suck.
And I mean, that's actually resulted in kind of the severing of a relationship between him and one of his daughters who is transgender.
And now she wants to change her last name.
Right.
Yes.
Because she doesn't want to be associated with him.
We've blitzed about this before.
And once she runs out of money, she's going to come crawling back to her daddy.
But it's a tough one because it's like, you want the name.
Yeah.
You definitely want the name.
You definitely want the name.
You got the genes.
Yeah.
Now you want the name and the money.
I want the name.
I want the name too.
I want that inherited.
He's also called Joe Biden Sleepy Joe Biden and space Karen Elizabeth Warren.
So that's, you know, that's very like memeable right-wing culture.
Yeah.
And he did come out as a not like the thing is, is he can vote Republican.
It's not for us to say, is he really a Republican?
Like, no.
He's voting Republican.
So none of us are like, I'm not a conservative.
I'm a Canadian me.
Like I can vote conservative.
It doesn't make me conservative.
Yeah, like whoever aligns with your values at the presentation.
Exactly, really.
Exactly.
And I mean, obviously.
I've always only ever voted conservative.
Yeah, me.
But I reserve the right to keep my mind open.
And I really appreciate that he's not just like hardcore right-wing because that would be boring.
Yeah.
We don't need.
Yeah, I think he was a registered independent for the most, probably.
Yeah.
So, I mean, yeah, I think you're right.
I think like there's a lot of nuance to politics and we shouldn't be so closed-minded and have tunnel vision when it comes to voting.
Obviously, when it pertains to the Liberal Party and the Democratic Party, as Christians, it's a little tougher to justify voting for them just because they for many reasons, but they don't hate life in itself.
They don't value life.
They hate God.
Yeah.
Et cetera, et cetera.
But yeah, so nice people, though.
Yeah, some of them are great.
But he did indicate in June his support for Florida Governor Ron DeSantis if he does run for president in 2024.
Pro-life.
Very socially conservative.
Yeah.
Yes, exactly.
Which is interesting.
Yeah.
Anne Coulter had a quote about Elon Musk, and she says, he's mostly about promoting himself.
Yeah.
And that's like, which is, I guess, fair.
I mean, you're, you've built his whole career off of himself.
And nor should he be a banner boy for either party.
No.
No.
He should not.
So yeah, for conservatives to be like, oh, he's our, he's our man.
It's like, you're going to get disappointed the next time one of like Roe v. Wade is overturned or re-overturned or whatever, like something happens socially, you're going to be disappointed and you're going to be like, oh, I hate him.
It's like, he's a human being.
He has a nuanced opinion and we might disagree with half of them.
Yeah.
Like you can't put anyone in a box.
But I mean, he is predicting a red wave in the next election.
So it's interesting.
It's interesting that we're kind of seeing his growth, so to speak.
And who knows?
Maybe one day he will become a true social conservative.
Yeah, maybe.
More importantly, maybe he becomes a Christian.
I don't know.
Who knows?
You never know.
It seems like someone with nine children isn't pro-abortion.
Yeah.
Feels that way.
Maybe not.
But again, it's like that's his choice.
Like I used to say, and I said this on the show, I used to call myself pro-choice, but like my choice would be life.
Right.
I've like become more pro-life over the course of the year, but just by researching things, especially now.
But like he can be pro-choice and still be very pro-life, like if that makes any sense.
Like he's pro-life for his own choices.
Maybe he's pro-choice for other people, but he's still not pro-life, I guess.
Yeah, absolutely.
And he's not a Christian or a conservative, like a social conservative.
So we can't really hold him to that standard, frankly.
So you're, yeah, you're absolutely right.
Of course, I am.
Yeah, so maybe we should talk about birth rates now that we're talking about abortion.
Yeah.
So apparently Elon Musk is obsessed with population collapse.
So just to quote him, he says, we should be much more worried about population collapse.
If there aren't enough people on Earth, then there definitely won't be enough for Mars.
And apparently the U.S. birth rate has been below minimum sustainable levels for 50 years.
Interesting.
He is actually right.
Scientifically.
Yes.
So he is right.
He's talking about the USA birth rate.
Yeah.
And then in the article, they're like, oh, the global birth rate, this.
And it's like, well, okay, right there.
And I think it's a really touchy subject because to say that like third world countries, their birth rates are much higher than ours.
So you can say, no, the global population is increasing.
It's never been higher.
Sure.
But do we need more poverty on the planet?
That's the question.
Like Elon Musk is saying, let's make America, let's make America specifically have more people.
And I think the argument for that might be we can help third world countries more if we have better doctors and scientists and engineers in America.
And it's not like it's our job to be the saviors of the world, but when you're in a third world country and you're starving to death and you don't have the infrastructure and the money to support your family, you might be grateful for America's aid when they're like, oh, we're going to send you this.
We're going to help you build clean water wells.
Like a lot of American charities go to African countries and they build wells and they teach them how to build more.
And then they're like, now you have water.
Now you have clean water.
It's like, we're not better than you.
We're just a little bit further down the development line and we can help you get to where we are so that nobody's impoverished.
You're trying to bless other people with the gifts you've been giving.
Like being born in the USA is a huge blessing.
And if you've been successful and you're living the American dream, why wouldn't you want to help somebody else?
Of course, I believe that helping should start at home in your own community.
But of course, we should branch out from there and help our fellow management American and first world countries having a very low birth rate and then third world countries who don't have money having a high birth rate.
That's long term.
Yeah.
Have you ever seen the movie Idiocracy?
No.
It's funny.
Okay.
It's basically like, and it happens in America, but the premise is it's like year 2030 or something, maybe further down the line, and only stupid people have reproduced.
And smart, educated people have decided that it's not the right time.
So then the whole globe is just like Homer Simpsons.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
So it's obviously just like about America.
That is Elon Musk's biggest fear, you guys.
So he's like, educated people should be having children as well.
Well, it's kind of interesting, too, because we talked about this in the last episode, but Bill Gates is pro-depopulation, and he's another billionaire.
And now we have the richest man in the world who's like, no, we need to populate the earth.
And it's funny because in North America, I've seen even billboards encouraging people not to have kids because of the so-called climate crisis and stuff like that.
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You talk about these all the time.
Right.
And he's actively like swimming upstream in this.
And it's kind of interesting.
But I will say he is also, you know, creating a like a strain of single mothers.
Like, it's like, cool, you're populating the earth, but you know, fatherlessness is also a crisis in North America.
Which we've also talked about.
Exactly.
So, it's like a bit of a double-edged sword.
It kind of is because, like, okay, cool.
Sure, these kids are going to inherit great wealth, but they don't have their dad necessarily.
He can't possibly be a good father to nine children.
Well, no one because it would be hard for anyone, not only the richest, most busy man on the planet.
Right.
Like, I think he couldn't even maintain his relationship with Grimes because he was most of his work with him is in Texas and she's in LA.
It's like, okay, well, maybe you guys shouldn't have had a bunch of kids when you're like, oh, but our lifestyles don't really blend.
It's like, aren't you?
Are you 19?
Exactly.
Like, it's just very, it's kind of icky, but it is kind of icky.
And maybe that's something he inherited from his father.
Maybe that's a trait.
Woo!
That's a doozy.
Not all the genes are good, guys.
Yeah, some of them are from Blue Notes.
Just kidding.
So, okay.
The most obvious part of all this is like news came out, I believe it was last week.
Yeah.
And it might, we're filming this a little early this week.
So like two weeks ago, it might be two weeks ago by now.
But Errol Musk, Elon's estranged father, admitted that in 2017, or I guess he had, so in 2017, and then also three years ago, which I guess would have been 2019.
Yeah.
He had, he's had two children now with his former stepdaughter.
So you're telling me, Catherine, that he had sex with this person's mummy and then he had sex with them.
Yeah.
And he knew her since she was four years old.
Okay.
He says that he barely raised her, that she was out of the house most of the time.
Like, he sounds like such a jerk, honestly.
He's clearly present in the lives of his children.
Oh my God, there's some quotes.
Well, and apparently they're not together because she's quote 35.
And it's like, okay, if she's 35, you're 76.
Maybe it's time to retire your sperm.
Maybe.
And apparently, we'll get into another article.
He's not ready necessarily.
He wants more time.
But please read us though.
So here are some fun quotes from Errol Musk.
Jana, his former stepdaughter, came and spent a few days here about six months ago, and the kids were starting to get on my nerves.
Then I miss them as soon as they've gone.
Isn't that just so typical?
So basically.
Isn't that just such a mad thing to say?
Yeah, that's just well.
And he's like this old man.
Yeah, they were getting on your nerves.
Maybe don't have them.
Because I'm sure they can sense that you're irritated by them.
Yeah, that's really cute.
And again, it goes back to my earlier point: like populate the earth all you want, but you're just screwing up future generations by just having kids and kind of abandoning them in a way.
It's a weird like ego thing.
Kind of.
Like, how many kids have you had?
I've had nine.
I've had seven.
Well, exactly.
And he said that part of the reason why he's passionate about this is because he created Elon Musk.
So he wants to keep creating more Elon Musk for them.
Maybe Elon's a one-off guy.
Yeah.
Like, maybe he's, you know, like, not all your genes are good, as I previously said.
So maybe you shouldn't be passing them on willy-nilly.
Yeah.
Here's another one.
Oh, this is a doozy.
Okay.
Errol said he hasn't asked for a paternity test for his youngest daughter because, and now he quotes, she looks just like my other daughters.
Two of those daughters just so happen to be Jana's half-sisters.
And no, they aren't pleased by this family development.
What?
I guess I get it because he had sex with the mother.
Maybe they had kids together.
They must have?
Yeah, they had kids together.
And then he had sex with not one of them, but like the mother of those children's daughter from a previous marriage.
So they're half-sisters.
They're sisters.
Yeah.
And then now his newest daughter looks just like their aunts.
Well, that's just a darn mess, isn't it?
That is a mess.
And I mean, to Elon's credit, he is mortified by this announcement.
So he's not completely crazy.
Yeah, no.
But that's not something that they put in the headlines.
Or maybe, you know, instead of, you know, creating more children, just focus on raising the ones you still have.
You got a few younger ones.
He's got something else.
I don't know.
Also, he, this is my last quote from Errol Musk.
Oh, good.
This is good.
It's been fun.
I have about six people, women, who claim that their child is my child now.
He said, calling them opportunists.
However, he said that there was a period in Johannesburg in the 80s that he was going out with different women every night.
I had plenty of dates, so it's quite conceivable that some of them could come back and say, this is your child.
Woo!
He's a classy guy.
He's a classy guy.
He is a classy guy.
And I mean, it just speaks to the importance of why we're supposed to have kids in the confines of marriage.
You know, that's the example we should set.
We don't want to just create hundreds of kids who grow up without dads.
And we know that the nuclear family is the bedrock of a functioning society.
And we know the importance of fathers at home.
So I think that's the biggest takeaway from both Elon and his father.
Because even though, you know, Elon is doing many wonderful things, like your first priority as a human being is being a dad.
You'd hope.
You'd hope.
Like, they didn't ask to be born.
And again, we talked about how they're going to inherit great wealth and stuff, but they're going to grow up confused and a little screwed up potentially.
And I think we should care about that.
And he should be criticized for that.
And we'll do it.
And we will do it.
Because that's our job.
Yeah.
Okay.
Is that the sure?
I think that's the show.
I think that's the sure.
That was fun.
Well, we did an Elon Musk deep dive.
That was fun.
That was fun.
He will send us a check.
He probably will not.
Okay.
Well, it's worth it.
But you can ask.
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