Kat and Nat dissect the fallout from Roe v. Wade’s 2022 overturning, exposing feminist myths: 78% of U.S. abortions are elective, not medically necessary; C-sections outperform abortion in risk cases; and life-saving treatments like ectopic care were never tied to Roe. They mock violent leftist rhetoric, Trump-era lies, and false "guns vs. women" framing—firearms lack constitutional personhood—while critiquing pro-choice advocates for ignoring single mothers’ struggles. The episode reveals how abortion rights debates often ignore reality, prioritizing access over actual support for women choosing life. [Automatically generated summary]
Hello and welcome to Misunderstood, the show for all you culturally and politically misunderstood ladies and gents.
We are your hosts.
I'm Kat.
And I'm Nat.
And today we're going to be discussing the reactions we've seen from the pro-abortion side following the Supreme Court's landmark decision to overturn Roe v. Wade in the U.S. Plus, we're going to compare and contrast all the ways women have more rights than guns, contrary to popular belief from the blue check marks on the left.
Let's get into it.
Yeah, all right.
All righty then.
I don't think we have a culture shock.
We don't.
I think that the fact that Roe v. Wade was overturned is a bit shocking.
That is a culture shock because the entire United States feminist movement is absolutely melting down.
Even internationally.
I'm like, what skin do you have in the game?
It's the United States.
Even our prime minister, Justin Trudeau, on Friday did like an emotional press conference where he was like emotional about it.
And it's like, sir, you don't have ovaries.
And even if you did, you could still get an abortion.
You're in Canada.
Yeah, exactly.
Like in Canada, you can get an abortion up to nine months, technically.
I think it's 20 weeks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, nine months if your doctor gives you a go-ahead, which I'm sure a lot of them do.
I'm sure they do.
I'm sure they do.
I'm sure they do too.
So just for a little background information, June 24th, Roe v. Wade was overturned by the Supreme Court in a 6-3 decision.
Justice Samuel Alito led the charge to overturn this landmark decision.
And now basically it's up to states to decide how they want to legislate abortion or restrict abortion.
And actually, it seems like quite a few red states have already.
Last I checked, it was 26, which is literally half.
Wow.
So that's crazy.
That's a lot.
So interesting.
It's also like glass half empty, glass half full.
It's like in half the states, you can still get an abortion.
And they don't have any restrictions where if you don't live in that state, you can't get an abortion there.
Right.
And if you're like a progressive living in a red state, this might be a time for you to leave.
Yeah.
You care so strongly about it.
Just move.
I'm sure the Republican side or conservative movement, people in the conservative movement would enjoy that.
Yes.
You just left.
And we've seen a lot of people move from blue states to red states.
Hello, California.
But bring their politics with them.
Yes.
Yeah.
And you're like, that's not fair to the people who live there.
But we digress.
Yes.
So obviously there's a lot of myths floating around.
There's a lot of emotions.
But I think that it's important that we maybe try to dispel some of the most common things we've seen from people who are kind of just clearly uneducated on this topic, it seems.
I even found some of these were shocking to me.
Yeah.
And I'm hella educated.
Yeah, she's a genius.
That's actually true.
Yes.
But yeah, so maybe we can just list some.
Yeah.
So this is from Eevee.
And it's, what is it?
The, what is it called?
Four myths about abortion that need to be debunked in the wake of Roe v. Wade being overturned.
Let's debunk.
We need a debunk button.
Debunk.
It's been debunked.
All right.
Take it away.
So the first one, the first myth is abortion is medically necessary.
So Dr. Kendra Kolb, who's a neonatologist.
Oh, you're going to say something else now.
No, I was not going to say that.
That's funny.
Not those.
That's okay.
I'm going to just.
We're going to blow right past that.
We're going to blow right past that.
So a neonatologist basically said that if the mother or the baby is ever in danger, it's safer to remove the baby via C-section rather than abort it.
So interesting.
Plus that if that's the case, you have a chance of saving both the baby and the mother potentially.
Apparently it takes two to three days to complete an abortion, like a surgical abortion, because you have to like dilate.
So I think you take medication a couple days before induce birth.
Yeah, exactly.
So with the early C-section, you can do it within the hour.
So it's actually safer for the mother and the baby to do it that way.
Sounds good.
Yeah.
Sounds good to me.
Oh, and this is another interesting point on that.
This neonatologist uses the example, a pregnant woman with cancer choosing to undergo chemotherapy, a treatment that could cause a miscarriage, is very different than an abortion as the purpose of the chemotherapy is not to kill the baby.
Yeah.
So that would not be classified as getting an abortion.
So when people say, oh, what if she has cancer?
It's like, well, she can go.
She can still attempt to cure her cancer.
It's just what is the purpose of the procedure is not to kill the baby.
And I think that's the difference there.
Yeah, you're trying to preserve both their lives, which is what we all want.
Like no one wants a mother to die for a baby and no one wants a baby to die unnecessarily.
Yeah.
So anyway, I think that's probably the largest myth.
Yeah, it's a huge one.
And it pulls at people's heartstrings because like I just mentioned, no one wants anyone to die.
No.
No.
I would be devastated to hear.
Yeah.
And I see a lot of people making the arguments like pro-life, but what about the woman?
It's like, if you actually talk to someone who's pro-life, they would say, I am, I'm pro-life for the mother as well.
Like, I don't want you to die.
No, absolutely.
It's a tragic misunderstanding.
It is.
So myth number two is women will be denied health care and life-saving procedures.
Yeah, this is a fun one.
Yeah.
So they say this, there's a rumor going around that women won't have access to treatments for ectopic pregnancies or miscarriages if abortion is outlawed in their state.
This is untrue.
These kinds of treatments and procedures are not abortions and they are made available to women long before Roe v. Wade was passed and they'll be available long after it's overturned.
Because again, we want to protect mothers too.
Yes, exactly.
If a mother's in danger, we want to do all we can to preserve the life.
And in these instances, a baby is not going to survive outside the womb at all anyway without any medical intervention.
It's just, it's sadly going to die.
So heller.
Heller.
Heller.
I've seen this exact argument on people that I know's Instagram.
They're like, what about ectopic?
I can't say that word.
Ectoptic?
Ectopic.
Ectopic pregnancies.
It's a horrible thing, but there's no way for the child to survive that.
And it will, and if they grows big enough, it'll kill the mother.
So that is not an abortion.
It's just not.
And people make that, they confuse those things all the time.
Definitely.
And I feel like it doesn't, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand that a miscarriage is not an abortion.
Like, how could you think that the baby's already unfortunately died inside of you?
And maybe a medical procedure will need to be to occur to remove some parts of the baby, depending on how your miscarriage goes.
But again, you're not murdering a baby.
Yeah.
It's different.
It's pretty different.
It's like a little bit.
Like a little bit.
Yeah.
All right.
Another one.
Abortion is a fundamental right, or as some people say, it is constitutional.
Actually, no, women were never granted the right to abortion in the Constitution, which is why Roe v. Wade was able to be overturned because the Supreme Court's job is to uphold the Constitution.
Therefore, abortion, not constitutional.
Yeah.
And the reason that Roe v. Wade was passed in the first place was not because they found abortion to be a constitutional right at all.
It was actually about a woman's right to privacy when getting an abortion.
It was literally about privacy.
It was not about abortions at all.
So they've probably looked into that and were like, this is being mischaracterized and misused.
Yeah.
So in other words, you're not actually losing any rights, ladies.
Just maybe the right to murder your unborn child in a state that, you know, eliminates abortion.
So again, you can go to California still.
Yeah, go.
Or come here.
Come to Canada.
Justin Trudeau literally said you can come to Canada and get your own.
You have to be double vaccinated.
We can't leave.
We can.
Oh, we can in some place.
We can.
But yeah, we can't go anywhere.
Myth number four is most abortions are for rape or incest.
Well, that's just not true at all.
Which we've talked about.
We've talked about that on the show.
We showed a graph.
Maybe I can find it again.
But this is a quote.
According to the Gut Macker Institute, which is a left-leaning organization for what it's worth, less than 1% of abortions are for cases of rape or incest.
And we've looked at the data ourselves, and that is true.
And you can look for it yourself.
Yeah.
It's the rest of the easy to find.
Sorry.
No, go.
No.
The rest of abortions are elective, meaning that women consented to sex that resulted in their pregnancy.
Yeah, I think it was like over 78% or something of abortions are elective, which means that you're just getting rid of the baby because it's not even just that.
It's that they would, that number one, I think it was 70-something percent, was specifically.
So it wasn't even, I have an abusive partner or I can't afford it because those were separate.
That's true.
That's it was literally just it doesn't fit into my life.
Right.
So it's a convenience.
It's a convenience.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
That's nice.
Well, that's the four myths.
Well, it's also just interesting to piggyback onto that, though.
I've seen so many progressives who, you know, on one side, they're like, well, we want to protect lives.
Like it's safe, legal, and rare, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But I've seen so many progressives on Twitter recently tweet about how a woman should not need any reason to justify her abortion.
And it's like, well, what is it?
Because you're kind of discrediting yourself.
Well, I love to do that.
They do.
They do.
I mean, it works.
It works for the pro-life side.
They're only supporting their arguments.
But like, guys.
I've also seen a lot of women say that this is a reason to not have sex anymore.
And it's like, yeah.
Yep.
Or to be more selective.
No, it's true.
Like, absence is the best contraceptive, y'all.
And like you've mentioned, that they're basically admitting that they use abortion as contraceptive.
Yeah.
It's just, it's gross.
It's gross.
It's gross.
It's screes.
And you know, maybe we'd be better off if you guys weren't reproducing.
Like just, you know, doing having sex.
I don't think maybe we don't want your spawn.
I'm not sure.
No, it's not the worst thing in the world.
It's not the worst thing in the world.
Especially for women to be more selective about who they go to bed with.
And that is also one of the EV articles was like how I don't know where it'll improve your sex life.
Yeah, it'll improve your literally just disappeared.
Ah, here it is.
The overturning of Roe v. Wade will improve women's sex lives and the quality of men they date in the long run.
And they have like a bunch, they have two reasons, basically.
Right.
And I'll just slam through them.
On-demand abortion perpetuates hookup culture and stupid sex, which is absolutely true.
Yeah.
I'm sure.
Because you don't have to be responsible for yourself.
Exactly.
And I notice a lot of men, like pro-like pro-choice men are one thing.
But pro-abortion men who are like hardcore, they're so creepy.
They're like, I get it, dude, because you don't want to be responsible for a child.
Like it's a scary thing to have to be a dad and to have to provide and protect your family.
So of course you don't want that.
And also I think it's like they're not getting a lot of sex in the first place.
So they're like, maybe this will help them because women won't want to sleep with certain men.
They'll, I don't know.
They'll be only because like women are saying like only sleep with like pro-choice men.
So they're like, yo, finally.
You know what a lot of these men are going to do?
Just call themselves pro-choice so that they can get lazy.
Yeah, it's just like feminism.
Yeah.
Like it's creepy and it's a scam.
And then the other one is restricting access to abortion will encourage women to date more consciously, which is yes.
Well, that's what we should be doing.
Why are you doing that?
I don't understand why you would ever sleep with a guy who you couldn't see as the potential father of your children.
Even if later you're like, okay, maybe.
Like we all make mistakes.
Yeah, but even if you're like in the moment, you should at least think perhaps.
Yeah, you should, like, the thing is, you can't, you can't get caught up in the heat of the moment.
We, like, it's sex has consequences.
And one of those consequences is pregnancy.
Yeah.
So we need to be mindful of that.
And STDs, guys.
And SCDs and, you know, both a child and SCDs can be forever.
So and it's, I don't know.
I think just ultimately, like what I find confusing is like, wherever you land on the abortion debate, the truth matters.
And like, I don't get why these pro-choice, pro-abortion women aren't empowering women who do choose life.
It's like, oh my gosh, you're like, it's handmaid's tail.
You chose life.
What the heck?
But it's like, why don't we instead try to mobilize and help these women get through this?
Let's give them resources, give them support.
Like, I don't understand why we can't all come together as women and help each other.
Yeah, I've seen like one of the arguments I've seen on Twitter, which was actually kind of sad.
This woman said she got pregnant at 16 or 17 and she decided to keep the baby.
And she said she got no support from her community and from the government.
And it's like, that's horrible.
Like, as pro-life people, we should be A, contributing to charities that help single mothers and B, voting for legislation that improves the life of single mothers.
Empowers them.
Exactly.
And helps children.
But doesn't incentivize them to be single-exactly.
No, no, but I don't think anyone would choose that if they had the option.
So I do agree that if you're going to be pro-life, you have to follow through with that after birth.
And remember when we went to the pro-life march a couple of months ago, we talked to one, we talked to lots of people, but one woman specifically said, like, caring for the mother during pregnancy and after birth.
And it's like, yes, thank you for saying that because that's a big criticism that the left makes.
And it's like, that's a valid criticism.
And we need to address that head on.
And I think, I think people are.
I think.
Yes.
Well, there are charitable organizations and churches and stuff, but it's so important overall.
It's hugely important.
It is.
No, you're so right.
And I think that's something, I think that's something that America does a little bit a better job of doing because there's so many more resources for women there.
Yeah, there's so many good pregnancy centers.
They're probably private, right?
I'm not sure about that.
I would think Canada would have like lots of resources, but maybe I'm wrong.
Yeah, or maybe they're just not good at marketing themselves and people just don't know they're available.
I'm not sure what the issue is.
I know there are a few good ones.
Maybe we should talk about that on another episode.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Like what if you are pregnant and you want to keep your baby and you don't have a lot of other resources?
Well, yeah, let's write help.
Yeah, I can write that down.
That's a good idea.
It's great.
Yeah.
And also, like, okay, don't you kind of think it's a little bigoted that the pro-choice side thinks women are incapable of keeping their child and raising it?
Like, obviously, it's going to come with trials, but women can do it all.
Like, really, we can do it all.
It's like, where are we feminists at?
You know, seriously.
You know, and like, so I just think, like, again, let's, let's try to come together and like support women.
That's what I want to do.
Yeah.
That sounds so crazy.
I'm a radical.
So anyway.
Yeah.
But I think one of the craziest things from this past weekend was the reactions from the left that we've seen.
We have the section here called unhinged reactions to Roe v. Wade.
I think that perfectly describes it.
They are unhinged, my friends, and they're kind of funny and sad.
It's entertainment.
It's sad.
It's tragedy and comedy all wrapped up in one little nugget.
Gotta laugh to keep from crying.
So should we?
Let's roll them.
Yeah, let's roll.
The dog's like, poor dog.
The dog's like, do you need help?
The poor dog.
Are you having a seizure, mom?
Yes.
Like, but that person seems like not super young.
Like, do you have much skin in the game here?
Honestly, I think it's probably like, here's my acting reel.
Like a lot of these people, I genuinely think they want to be actors.
Well, I don't think you should be because that was terrible.
That was awful.
Okay.
Okay, next.
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So I'm just convinced we need to burn it all down because at this point, I don't know what else we're supposed to do.
I'm advocating for violence.
I am advocating for violence because there are people that are doing a really bad job.
But the problem with the job is even though they're doing such a bad job, they do this job until they die.
So we're just supposed to sit back and let these people do a really bad job.
And really seriously negative consequences on millions of people.
And we're supposed to do what?
Sit on the sidelines.
Light it on fire.
I'm gonna, we're lighting it up.
So I'm just gonna be peaceful.
Yeah.
You know, it's funny.
Imagine if it was a conservative.
I mean, most conservatives are not insane enough to post these things publicly.
Yeah.
But if a conservative did, man, like the whole world would be like, look at those evil conservatives.
I mean, Tamara Lynch was in jail for organizing a peaceful protest in Canada.
You know, so let's just put the standard.
Yeah, double standard much, but that's not new.
Here's a here's a gentleman caller.
Oh, good.
This guy's so creepy.
Wait to hear what he has to say.
We knew this day was coming, people.
We knew it when Donald Trump appointed three Republican Supreme Court justices who said they would uphold Roe v. Wade and lied under oath just so they could get confirmation and then overturn it once they came into power.
We knew this day was coming.
So what are we going to do now?
Are we going to surrender?
Are we going to say, no, it's over.
We're going back to the dark ages.
No, no.
Stop it.
We are going to show up to the ballot box in massive numbers and we are going to make sure women's reproductive rights return to where they belong in the hands of women, not in the hands of six Republican Supreme Court justices.
They're not.
Are you with me, people?
No.
Are you with me?
And are you with the Democrats?
If you are, you better show up to vote blue this November because everything's on the line.
We knew that he knows that Joe Biden is president.
Like you already have a Democrat in the White House.
Yeah.
I mean, it was fortunate that Trump was president when Ruth Bader Ginsburg retired or died or he was able to replace her.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Yeah, that guy's unhinged.
Yeah, I don't trust him.
Don't sleep with him all, ladies.
Yeah.
Stay away.
Stay away.
Here's actually the opposite argument from this young lady here.
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Well, I'm intrigued.
You know who the left should blame for the overturning of Roe versus Wade?
Not the Supreme Court, not Christians, not conservatives, not Republicans, not pro-lifers.
The only ones they should be blaming are themselves.
It is 100% their fault.
Roe got overturned.
A lot of people, myself included, at one point in time, could sympathize with the scared teenager, with the drug addict who had no business bringing a baby into this world.
We could understand that we didn't like it.
We didn't agree with it, but we could at least understand it.
We went from safe, legal, and rare to up to the moment of birth.
We gave you an inch and you took a mile.
We drew the line when you decided that you should be able to murder a fully formed infant up to the moment it exits your body.
You have no.
Yeah, when I saw her, like the still, I was like, oh, this is going to be hilarious.
Yeah.
Which I was like, oh, she makes such good points.
She does.
Yeah.
And it's interesting to see, you know, yeah.
I mean, we know that there are young women that feel this way because.
Yeah.
And it's nice to see a more level-headed response to this, you know?
Yeah.
You hadn't heard that argument.
No.
Yeah.
Here's a good one.
Oh, this looks.
Yeah, this is good.
My choice!
It's changing hearts and minds.
That's how you do it.
And assaulting herself.
I don't think she has issues avoiding sex.
Can I say that?
I did.
You did.
I'm sorry.
No, I agree.
You mean I'll repent later?
No, you're good.
But ugly.
Ugly.
We'll just play a couple seconds of this one because it's rather long and maybe people have already seen it, but it's good.
Hey, are y'all in favor of my body, my joy?
Yeah.
What about vaccine mandates?
Don't, you know what?
Don't even get me started with that because you know what?
Over a million people die today.
So, you know what?
I don't want to give this shit my body, my choice.
Or do men carry babies for nine months?
I don't think vaccines don't.
I have a question.
Are you in favor?
Oh, it's so good.
He basically asks everyone the same thing, and they're all like, yeah, I'm pro.
I'm definitely pro my body, my choice.
And then he's like, what about vaccines?
And they're like, it's different.
And I love how they aren't willing to like chat and like get shut it down.
Yeah, like, no, Put your hand out.
And it doesn't matter that like.
They argue, well, it's a public health thing.
You're impacting someone else's health.
He's like, well, what about the baby?
Yeah.
Like, you're impacting the baby as well.
Yeah.
No one cares, though.
No one cares.
No one cares.
Yeah.
Good time.
This is just a still image, but I thought it was funny.
This is like a bumble profile.
Oh, vasectomy required.
Ooh.
Yeah.
And you need to show proof of vasectomy.
Why don't you tie your tubes?
Yeah.
And also, like, why are you sleeping with every guy you meet on the internet?
Yeah.
That's great.
And also, you're 31.
Girl.
Yeah.
Girl.
Clean your room.
Girl.
Sad.
It's not that dirty, but still, clean it.
Yeah.
You need to do something.
You need to do something.
I think that's, is that it?
Yes.
So that was a nightmare.
Yeah.
It was fun.
It was fun.
Yeah.
It really, I think that they're really, you know, pushing their cause forward.
Yep.
By reacting like that.
So thank you guys.
Logic, reason, compassion.
Love.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was great.
Wisdom.
Love it.
Okay.
Let's move on because guess what, guys?
A lot of people, including our favorite celebrity, Kim Kardashian, are saying now that because of the overturning of Roe v. Wade, guns now have more rights than women.
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
So it's just such a funny, and Nat pointed this out.
This particular cartoon is just like so atrocious because you see what they're trying to do with the gun trigger and the belly, but it's like that belly is like about to pop.
Yeah, like there's a nine-month-old.
You shouldn't be aborting that baby.
Yeah.
That's that's not okay.
Plus, it kind of looks like a man's belly, doesn't it?
Yeah, well, that can happen now.
Yeah.
It is 2022.
Okay, so let's try to condense these to like five because some of them are rather the same.
Where like, okay.
Basically, here are the differences between women and guns because people apparently need to know this.
There's not many though.
They're basically the same thing.
Okay, so I would argue the biggest one is that women are not property.
Yeah.
I also, my favorite is you don't have to lock a woman up when you aren't using her.
Like a gun?
You do.
Yeah.
It's called the safeties.
Yeah.
You know?
Number three, we can condense this because there's a couple that are, that follow the same logic here, but it's like women are allowed in government buildings, schools, on airplanes, near children, and near felons.
Yeah.
Guns are not.
Yeah, they aren't.
I mean, like, imagine too, like, if a business had a sign on their door that said, no women allowed.
Yeah.
I'm sure that happens in Saudi Arabia, but no one cares.
Yeah.
Well, hello, fellas.
But I'm pretty sure there are places, as you just mentioned, that say no guns allowed.
Anyway.
You don't need a license?
Yes.
To own a woman.
So you don't need a license to own a woman.
That's kind of a big one, guys.
My personal favorite.
Women have no magazine limit.
They might, but it's a little different.
Yeah, it's different.
I see a little fun little play on words there.
Oh, that's so funny.
So there we go, guys.
Yeah, those are good.
I'm sure there's many more, but I can't see.
I think the reason we're talking about this is because it's kind of crazy how so many of these blue check marks on Twitter are kind of in lockstep, all tweeting the exact same thing.
It's like it's like George Soros sent them this memo saying like, please tweet this today, Kim Kardashian.
Yeah, I've seen so many signs that are like, oh, now my uterus has less rights than a gun.
It's like, that's crazy.
If you actually believe that, that's pretty crazy.
And it's just, it's completely incorrect because also, like, women are human beings, and the U.S. Constitution offers rights to humans, not guns.
I mean, the Declaration of Independence contains, you know, basically the entire theory of American government in a single inspiring message, which means that all men are created equal, blah, Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
I don't think that applies to objects.
Does not.
Specifically, firearms.
But nowadays, people have one of the genders is like you can identify as an object.
Oh.
So maybe those people actually have as many rights as guns, but that's by choice.
Yeah, it's true.
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There you go.
I'm a couch self.
Oh, wow.
Only on Sundays, though.
Yeah.
It's the Lord's Day.
It's the Lord's Day.
Anyway.
Anyway, that was fun.
I think that's the sure.
I think that's the sure.
Well, thank you all for it.
Short and sweet.
Just like us.
Yeah.
We're so little in the cute.
Cute.
Just bite-sized.
Okay.
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