DAILY exposes Canada’s passport chaos—24–48-hour waits in Montreal, $6K bribes for appointments, and printer shutdowns halting production—while questioning government push for digital IDs amid unsold flights. The U.S. Supreme Court’s Roe reversal sparks debate on abortion’s moral vs. economic framing, contrasting with Uganda’s complex realities, as progressive policies—LGBTQ advocacy, drug legalization, climate fearmongering—correlate with plummeting birth rates. Critics warn: without new generations, societal progress stalls, yet divisive politics and symbolic spending (like Montreal’s "massive ring") overshadow urgent economic crises, while accountability for crimes like church arsons or statue vandalism vanishes. The episode ties reproductive decline to cultural shifts, questioning whether individual desires should outweigh long-term societal consequences. [Automatically generated summary]
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Matt, how is the passport office in your place?
Passport Office Blues00:15:04
Because here in Quebec is crazy.
Well, I'll tell you this much.
I was looking on Facebook Marketplace yesterday and I thought, you know what?
Maybe it's time that I get a part-time job waiting at the passport office.
People are charging thousands of dollars right now to wait out, you know, for 24 or 48 hours, sometimes longer than that, you know, to get their passport spot in time because people are getting stuck here.
And it's, it's, I never, I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime.
So it's pretty crazy.
Yeah, here is, it's, I went there.
I went to Montreal because I knew that it was the total chaos.
The day before I went there, I know that people have run, rush run like inside of the building.
It was a complex guy favourable in Montreal.
And so the thing is like people were claiming for a ticket because nobody was giving like number of tickets for waiting online.
So everybody was like doing whatever they want.
And so the police intervened, they came inside and they pushed everybody out of the building.
And now people are stuck in the street.
Like, especially in the street, day and night, they are sleeping there.
They say like, I have an appointment, but I'm not trusting nobody because nobody told me like I should go home.
Everybody say, no, don't leave because you can leave, like lost your place.
And I saw people crying in my face, like saying, like, we just lost our flight.
It was this morning we lost it.
And some people like was the night that the same day at night that I was talking with them and they were like, I didn't have ticket.
They take 80 people per day.
And they say, I'm going to lose my flight.
I'm gonna lose my anti-vacation costs.
And some people that I was talking with, it was a group of five or six people.
They needed to pay $800 each to change the date of their flight for the day after.
Imagine who will pay them the cost because some of them have applied in April, mid-April or beginning of April, and they had the special date, like they had the date in June to receive it, but it didn't receive it.
So, what do you do when you have an expecting date to arrive of your passport?
You did your job, you apply on time, you pay your flight afterwards, and you never receive your passport.
And now you wait outside.
And one of the nights it was pouring rain.
Like, I'm not kidding.
So, a woman says, my father that is Diabeti needed to cover during the night because I have two little children at home that cannot be alone.
And my dad was sleeping there under the rain for waiting for me.
And since they were going to lose their flight, same if they did that.
Like, what happens if they miss their flight?
There's obviously no accountability from the government.
There's no reimbursement of lost travel fees.
And these are people who went out of their way above and beyond months ahead of time to make this all happen.
So, I mean, what's the government's excuse as to why things are so backed up nationally?
I don't understand what the problem is.
The problem is people are working from home.
So, we have about 29,000 employees for Canada Services.
18 of them, 18,000 of them are working from home.
And just in the province of Quebec is 3,600 people who are still working from home.
This is incredible.
Ontario is about 6,000 and something.
I think the West is 5,000 and something.
But imagine you cannot produce a passport with like really serious confidentiality information from home.
If they are doing that from home, I will say, I'm a bit scared for my private information if they are doing that from their place because everybody can hack the access of these information.
So it's supposed to be like a central bank of data that they cannot have access from the office.
But now, what we can see is like most of the people are working from home.
So, and one day, one of the people were waiting, they say they went out and say, Oh, sorry, we have one of the printers that is not working.
So, we need to repair it.
But I asked them, like, I say, how many like printers they have inside?
Oh, my goodness.
So, like, it's like 50% of the production was like down.
And I was like, nobody's doing anything.
The federal should have resolved this problem.
Hasking people work from home to say, you go back at the office and you work, people will work during the night and as well the weekend.
So we will do a bunch of working right now, solve that problem.
And after that, we will get back to normal.
But what they did, nothing.
It seems like, you know, the tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists in me can't help but think that all of this backup is intentional, you know, because once identification verification all moves towards biometrics and being digital, well, now you don't have to go to the passport office in person and now you don't have to wait in line and you can just send your eye scan or your thumbprint through your phone and then you know pick up your passport.
So I don't know.
It's really strange to see like all of our Canadian infrastructures just slowly decay and breaking down over the past couple years.
And a part of me, sometimes I think it's just incompetence, but there comes a point where you have to wonder like, is it really just incompetence?
Because this is inexcusable.
Like our travel system in Canada has basically become the laughing stock of the Western world over the past six months, especially.
So I really hope that we can figure it out, especially for the sake of these people who all did the right thing and need to get home or need to travel for work or whatever else.
It's really tragic.
But the only thing here is like the government knew that that will happen.
Like with all the restriction lift, with the travel restriction lift for some of them, because quarantine is still there for unvaccinated.
But still, they knew that that will happen.
And how it's work, it's like when you made a passport, most of the time it's good for 10 years or five years.
So probably a bunch of people didn't make their passport that went to hand at the beginning of the pandemic and through the two years.
So every passport that going to end out of their time, and now you cannot travel if your passport is just valid for like a couple of months, I think it's six months.
So everybody in this all large scale of time that just realized in the same time, oh, we are going to travel because now it's summer, vacation is there, we can do it since, and we were not able to do it since two years.
Okay.
And everybody applying the same time.
But the federal government should have known that it's coming up.
And they probably knew that it was coming up.
But the thing is like, we know that the digital identity, as you say, they want to implement that in especially for Pearson Airport and Montreal Airport.
And as we know that Air Canada is one of the partnership of this digital identity too.
So at the end of the day, like the like the airport say, oh, we solved the problem, but they can't sell some of the flight, most of the flight.
Of course, that they solve the problem.
But the thing is like all these people are waiting online for having their passport.
But it's not only the people who wait for their passport need to know that people who are waiting for their visa to come into Canada are not capable to have it in time.
So a lot of people are stuck in their country and say, we cannot travel in Canada because we didn't receive our visa in time.
So it's really bad for tourism and it's really bad for our economy as well.
Who will want to come to Canada anymore?
I wonder that every day.
But a lot of people wonder like if the people waiting for their passport, is it for running away or for going to vacation?
It's terrible.
Yeah.
And, you know, like in La Pres newspaper, they were saying like, oh, yeah, but Passport Canada are going to check for if your flight is coming up soon.
So you will be prioritized.
And they would have been doing this from the beginning, though.
But they might just now.
I don't understand.
I don't know, but they are not doing it.
So, I asked a couple of people: do the officer come to talk to you?
Because it's not an agent or officer that's from Passport Canada that come outside.
They are security.
So, security doesn't talk to people at all.
You just ask them if you offer for your passport, you still wait online for people who have other appointments for Canada services, like paying tax or anything.
But that's you don't wait.
You just go inside with them.
But when it's come with the passport, you need to wait online.
But nobody, I've asked them, Do you have a flight that's coming up?
No, no, nobody came to talk to them.
Same like the legacy media.
I've been pushed out to record them and to report there.
They have been pushed out of the office.
And so something is going on there that nobody wants us to report on and either like mainstream.
So this is a kind of hilarious and outrageous dark time, I think.
It's a dark time when you see like some of the American people were walking in the street asking like, What is going on here?
And when people were saying, like, oh, we are waiting for our passport, they were like, What?
Yeah, it's crazy.
It reminds me of seeing footage from like Venezuela of people like lined up at the passport offices and trying to get out of the country, but they can't.
It's like really bizarre to see that happening in Canada.
But if our only Canada-that's true, that's true.
But if our liberal government has taught us anything, you know, all we need is a little bit of international media coverage, and then Trudeau will do a little, you know, he'll dance and do his doggy trick and he'll make something happen real quick and slap his fingers.
But it seems like he doesn't really care what Canadians are dealing with.
And just again, it's just more of the same, you know.
Because I saw that after posting a lot of things about the passport in Canada, a lot of people say, Oh, in France is the same, Sweden is the same, but it's look like it's mostly G7 country.
Interesting.
So, what are they, what's the whole, what's the holdup?
What are they trying to push through before they renew everybody's 10-year passports?
I don't know.
But it's just interesting to see that it's not the third world country or it's not, you know, small country.
It's really about the biggest like country as France, Canada, Sweden.
But Sweden is that big, but it's a country that it's kind of we talk a lot about Sweden and we did talk a lot about Switzerland too, because Switzerland didn't like join all these restrictions and everything.
So like it's mostly about rich country, I would say, like really developed country that when we look at maybe Colombia or other country in South America, I didn't say, I didn't heard anybody waiting like that for a passport.
Yeah, I mean, probably they don't travel as much.
Yeah, fair enough.
So it looks like it looks like Trudeau just did another interview with CBC Radio defending, of course, defending his vax mandates and the emergency act decision.
This guy can't take, he can't take accountability for anything.
It's like it's almost like he feels like if he admits he was wrong about one thing, just one little thing, then there will be a crack in the patina that is this perfectly put together world leader and everyone will see him for the failed dictator that he is.
And it's really, it's really embarrassing.
But you know, he leaves off by saying, you know, Justin Trudeau says people who chose not to be vaccinated against COVID-19 must accept the consequences of those decisions, including lost employment and restricted access to transportation and other services.
It was their choice, and nobody ever was going to force anyone into doing something they don't want to do.
The Prime Minister said in an interview with CBC Radio's The House aired on Saturday.
But there are consequences when you don't.
You cannot choose to put at risk your coworkers.
You cannot choose to put at risk the people sitting beside you on an airplane, Trudeau said before leaving for international summits in Africa and Europe.
Leaving for international summits in Africa and Europe eight days after he tests positive for COVID, not even following his own restrictions.
So I don't know why he was allowed to travel or leave the country, but I guess, you know, more examples of rules for thee and not for me.
But it's really, again, it's just this divisive rhetoric that isn't scientific and it's been debunked by multiple governing bodies and scientific bodies internationally.
But again, our prime minister just sticks to talking points and political ideology.
And he just won't take any responsibility for the damage that he's caused to our national fabric.
And not only that, he'd rather just not look at it.
It's really disgusting.
I'm really tired of it, to be honest.
I find that so stupid when we see you were wrong.
Losing Rights Debate00:04:46
Administrative.
Yeah.
Like, it's only two words.
Three words.
I was wrong.
You were wrong.
Like, what are you saying?
It doesn't make sense.
When we look like me, I always take that example for the traveling.
When I go to Montreal, I cannot take a train.
That is way more spacey, way more good for the air, and you're not really close to nobody.
But you can take a bus.
A bus that you are like that with someone else.
The air is not really good.
And at the end of the day, I have more risk in a bus than in a train.
So, where is the science in this?
Yeah, there is a lot of people.
I'm sure you cannot make it.
No.
Punitive.
No, it's just punitive.
And it's the same with the Emergency Act, you know, this flip-flop saying, yeah, we consulted with the police to invoke the Emergency Act and the police wanted it.
And then, you know, police, literally, the same police they claim they consulted on record saying, no, we didn't.
You know, so it's just this article makes an interesting point.
In the CBC, it says he's taking on about him taking on more divisive traditions.
There's a little bit of Pierre Trudeau in his politics the longer he's in office, which meaning now that he's been in there longer, he's more willing to scrum with the media.
He's not worried about being liked as much, which I guess we're definitely seeing.
But you know what?
Like, if he was willing, and I will say, as someone who's obviously a very vocal critic of Trudeau and the liberal policies, the thing that gets me the most is the gaslighting and how stubborn they are.
If you could admit that you were wrong just for one second, okay, well, then at least that opens a window for dialogue and discourse.
At least we can feel like we're meeting on an equal plane and we can have a conversation.
We can work through the issues that are facing our country together.
And that instills trust in our institutions.
Even if I disagree with you, if I feel like you're man enough or humble enough to admit that you were wrong, okay, well, then we can start there.
But when you're not, and when you just double down on things that are obviously wrong, like you know, have been debunked and refuted and failed over and over again, issue after issue after issue.
It's like, okay, well, you're not a benevolent leader, you're a dictator at that point because there is where is the democracy?
You're going around the whole world talking about how we need to combat failing democracy in nation states.
It's like you're contributing to it, you're leading that charge.
So it's very, yeah, I don't know.
It's dark days.
Talk about for me, it's just losing more and more rights.
And I think like what we get through the years, we are losing it like slowly.
Just by example, the trial, the Supreme Court that just gave their verdict about Joe N. Wade trial.
This is another proof of losing rights that we fight for it.
That Supreme Court giving in 1973 the right of the woman for abortion.
And now they just lost everything.
And I was just looking like a Row was a divorced woman who win the right of abortion in 1973.
And now, I don't know what happened, but the Supreme Court gave the right to ban abortion.
And now we are talking about most of half of the state in the United States that want to ban abortion.
What is your thought, you as a man, about this?
Yeah, it's interesting because things are more polarized and divided than ever.
Traditionally, the United States being a republic, it works a little bit differently than Canada does, meaning traditionally, the states are supposed to have more individual powers.
And because there's such a strong evangelical Christian base that are socially conservative in the United States and it's built into their fabric, you know, obviously there are some people who feel male or male or female, they feel that abortion is murder, right?
Cannot Afford It00:15:35
So the question is, what it's tough.
It's like, it's one of those, it's a perspective on life where coming from it on opposite sides, you're going to see things completely differently, right?
And this is maybe not a fair example, but I was on a missionary trip in Uganda two summers ago.
And there was this girl there.
So in Uganda, young girls are not very valued.
And the reason why that is, is because a family will maybe have eight to ten children.
The women marry off.
So they can only afford to send one or two kids to school, usually the boys, because the boys go to school to get educated, then they come back to the village and they work for the village, raise money for the village and whatever else.
So it's very like 50 people in that community may be reliant on one or two people who go to school and then come back.
So this girl, she was one of the fortunate ones.
She was educated.
She was actually college educated.
And when she was in college, she basically got date raped by somebody that she thought was her friend.
And she decided to have the child.
And at 17 years old, I was asking her, well, why would you decide to do that?
Especially given like the social conditions there specifically.
And she said to me, she's like, you know, and the tears are in her eyes.
She said to me, like, it wasn't his fault.
Like, it wasn't my son's fault.
He didn't ask for that.
And I was just like, I was really profound.
I was profoundly shooken by that, like, really in my spirit.
Like, that really broke my heart because I see, obviously, there's in society, we argue the extremes, right?
It's only the extreme voices that get the loudest attention, like the people that, you know, are showing up at pro-abortion rallies, claiming they want to use it as like a contraceptive.
And they love having abortions.
I love killing babies.
Like, we've all seen the social clips, the people that are very loud and very, and then, you know, but it's obviously life is more nuanced than that.
And it's, and most people fall into that, like 95% of people fall into that gray area category.
So it's just, it was really sobering to me, anyways, to see like a little bit of a different take.
And it really opened my eyes up to realizing that it's not as actually far more complicated story than the talking heads make it out to be.
And it's very personal, you know.
Either way, you know, because it seems, you know, and I feel strange even speaking on this, but to be honest, like, yes, could there be more infrastructure?
Could we provide more infrastructure for women who decide to have children outside of wedlock and outside of that social safety net?
Yes, certainly.
However, is being born into poverty a good enough reason to not live?
And I would, I don't think that that's the case either.
So there has to be some sort of middle ground there.
But anyways, this is a little early in the morning to be talking about abortion.
Me, my point is, yeah, for abortion, I understand both sides.
I understand that some are using it instead of contraceptive pill.
Like they just get pregnant all the time and just get boarded.
That it's an easygoing thing.
But I understand that in another way, some people like sometimes you get older as a woman and you think that you will not fall pregnant.
Okay.
And when that happened, you just have like big eyes and just like, what is happening right now?
Like, I'm too old.
What's going on?
I thought my body would not be able to create anymore as when you got close to menopause or, you know.
So sometimes it's just like a surprise and it's a bad surprise.
When you get like a certain age, if you have a baby, you can have like a really bad consequences on your body.
And some of the women can die as well, like having a baby too late because it's not the time for having it.
Like 30 or into 20, it's probably the best time.
But when you get too close to 50 and or late 40, it's not really good for a woman.
And it's not very good for the baby as well, like because baby can have more like I would say genetic disease or other malformation or you can have like other disease created because the body are not as much nutritious for the baby as I say like with like nutrient or other stuff.
But my point is now that that pass legally, imagine some woman who was waiting for their appointment, receive a call from the clinic.
I'm sorry, but we cannot proceed to your abortion.
We are sorry about it.
And so all these women turn to other state that need that would probably do some abortion.
They call them.
Or we are sorry we don't have any space because everything filled up in a couple of hours before, days before.
Or so they need to travel really far away.
They don't have money, so they will ask money for other people for the gas because the gas is incredible like I, and they will need to travel to there to get an abortion.
Because some people have like what, I think, being raped, or some people they met a guy that like, I don't know if you know, but as a woman, I know that when you begin in life and you have like a first sexual like relation, but I will say that some guy doesn't want to wear a freaking condom because they don't feel comfortable on it or they prefer without it.
And as a woman, sometimes you don't want to shock or make them like angry at you.
Or, you know, some girl will like comply to it.
And at the end, who will have the consequences?
It's the woman.
And the woman will like destroy their life because the state say, oh, you cannot abort, but is actually the guy who put pressure to not wear a condom.
Well, I do think that there's a misconception that there's a stereotype or a cliche, anyways, that having a child is a shameful thing to do.
Like somehow having a child is synonymous with ruining your life and throwing your career away.
And statistically, if we look at GDP for household incomes, like married families with children actually tend to earn more and have more productivity than single people.
So it's maybe inconvenient and it's scary, but the math doesn't necessarily back up that it's like a career ruiner.
But when it comes to the state specifically, it's difficult because for people who actually believe, like, okay, if I'm a doctor and I believe that abortion is murder, especially after the first trimester, should I be forced to do that?
I don't know.
I don't think that's fair.
Someone truly believes that.
Or even as a taxpayer, like let's say if I'm a taxpayer in Texas and I believe abortion is murder, should my tax money be going to fund something that is morally egregious to me?
I don't think that that's fair either.
So maybe, you know, I don't know.
Like this is something that I ask myself in BC all the time, especially with the legalization or decriminalization anyways of like heroin, crystal methane venom, all of these hard drugs, which will soon be followed by government legalization and distribution.
Like do I want to pay for that?
No, but do I have to?
Like right now I do have to because this is where I live and that's how my tax dollars are distributed.
So obviously it's everyone has their own, everyone has their own choices to make.
We have to be accountable for the choices that we make and we can't, it's not fair to have other people clean up after a mess.
At least that's where I stand on this issue.
You have to be naive to think that if abortion is illegal now, somehow people won't do it or they just won't have safe access to it where they are.
So I think that the bigger battle for the pro-lifers ahead is changing the culture into, especially the public dialogue into thinking that, yes, having a child is the worst thing that could ever happen to you.
Because I don't think that's true.
In fact, like, you know, seeing friends and family that have had unplanned pregnancies throughout different stages of life, it's always turned out for the better at the end of it.
At first, it was scary and they didn't know what, but, you know, at least personally, and I can only speak anecdotally, but I'm hard-pressed to find people that have had children that were unexpected that it was like they were, you know, completely ruined their life.
And I don't mean like postpartum depression after one year or two years, but generally life is a blessing, not a sentence.
At least that's how I choose to look at it.
But again, I'm a man and I would never, everyone can make their own decision, and I respect that.
But that also doesn't mean that people have to agree with the decisions that are being made.
I will do a really, you know, I'm a biologist and I study birds, but as we see at this moment, we see a lot of inflation.
So less and less opportunity to get food for the family, to get the family really well.
So mother can choose to say, I cannot afford with the cost of life to have another child.
It's impossible because that will cut the portion that we give to other children to having another one and all of them will be miserable and my life would be miserable.
And that's it's it's the most important point because now with like all the cost of the life, the medium-wage people and less would not be able to afford to have so many kids now.
But when you look at bird, because we talk about like, oh, humans are bad, we are doing abortion and everything.
But birds do abortion by themselves.
So when they create eggs inside of their womb and they see that they have not enough food around them, they will reserve their eggs for keeping the nutrient for the number of eggs that they will give birth.
So they are doing himself an abortion when they see that they cannot afford to have more baby that they did produce inside of their womb.
So I think it's a natural thing to just, if you see that you cannot afford to get birth, you just give the children away,
but that is heartbreaking because you don't know in which kind of a hand that that baby will fall into or taking the decision before like the baby is completely formed to just like say, I cannot afford it.
But I can understand when you get too late in the trimester, like when the baby is almost like formally to get aborted.
It's just why you didn't do it before.
That is only my only question.
Yeah, that's, well, I think that there's, you know, there's so much social pressure.
There's social pressure to have the child.
There's social pressure to not have the child.
And it's like, and I know this is going to come off tone deaf.
So to our female viewers, I apologize, but I feel like as a man, we have no say in the conversation.
But I don't hold the accountability if the child comes.
So for example, if I'm with my wife or my girlfriend and my girlfriend gets pregnant, she decides she doesn't want to have the child, but I really want to have the child.
Even if she doesn't want to raise the child, I'll take full custody, full financial responsibility for that child.
I have no say in that.
However, if the child is then born and I want nothing to do with that child, well, I'm still responsible for child support.
So I don't think, I think, And you know, even if you expound out, if you look, I believe that a lot of the problems that face us social politically can come back to economics and fathering, like weak fathering, weak mothering, and economics.
So, I think this destruction of the family home even before the baby comes, like rupturing of the nest, to use like the bird analogy, is also critical into what we're facing.
But again, that's just my two cents.
Like in the New Testament, you know, and I understand it for like the Christian perspective, but I understand why Christians are so for a lot of reasons.
But the idea of even in the first trimester, why it's so egregious to some very socially conservative states is, you know, in the New Testament, it talks about, it writes about the apostle, John the Baptist recognizing the baby, the fetus of John the Baptist jumping for joy when it recognized Jesus in Mary's belly, right?
So, like, it's, I knew you and I informed you inside your mother's womb.
So, that's very a part of like Christian theology and ideology that life begins right at conception.
So, that's a whole nother, you know, the states obviously isn't a theocracy, but it's as close as it gets to the West, you know, in the West to a theocracy as far as like biblical morality forming fundamental laws.
So, I can see why people are so upset.
They take it like, you know, why this is such a personal issue.
Because there's also shame built into the whole thing, right?
There's people who have been on one side of the argument or others.
You're going to be very hard-pressed to find someone who hasn't been exposed or affected by abortion, whether that's them personally or someone that they love, right?
So, this is obviously like a very personal issue.
And when we're talking about very personal issues, like that, you know, it's easy for obviously personal experience, shame, guilt, embarrassment, whatever else, to also build into the conversation.
So, this is like a lame answer, but I do feel like the only way things are ever going to change is like a reformation of like culturally around like our discussion and dialogue around sex, around contraception, around parenting, and what these things mean and how to approach them responsibly, right?
Climate Change and Personal Choices00:10:36
Because, like, ultimately, reproduction is a consequence of sex.
You can't make a baby.
Well, I guess these days you can make a baby in a test tube, but you know, you can't fundamentally, up until very recently in human history, and any species, you can't really, you know, make a child without fornication.
And that's how you reproduce, right?
So, that is the fundamental cause.
At least that's that's you know, pleasure is like it is a bonus, you know, but if it didn't feel good, people wouldn't do it, you know.
So, I guess it's like a nature, some say God, some say nature's built-in incense incentive to reproduce, right?
Yeah, but I don't know.
Sorry, I'm not a complete rabbit hole right now.
I come back on what you say, like that man doesn't have really that voice heard about it because it's I think it's you need to be bold for conception.
Yeah, of course, it's the woman who are wearing it for nine months, but in the same time, um, the fact is woman sometimes they will use the man, like they will like I so many times I see a couple, okay, the woman is so in love, and but the man is going to let her go because He didn't love her anymore.
Oh, incidentally, she's pregnant and she will keep it and she don't let him like having any word on it.
And I see so many couple being broken, right?
They're all together for the child, but they don't like each other.
But I saw that really, really more often than we think.
Broken like family.
And for because the woman chooses that, no, I want that for a couple, and I want a baby with him, and so I'm going to keep it.
It's not right.
It's not right.
Yeah, that's definitely not the best way to start a family, you know, or build trust or do anything, anything healthy.
You know, but again, it's like the child is the consequence of sex.
So is a life being wanted enough of a deciding factor whether that life is worth living or not?
I think that's the question that I'm always going to come back to personally.
And especially, like, I don't know if you remember, but should we be like having less people on hurt?
No, we need more people.
Our birth rates, our birth rates are falling off a cliff right now in the West.
And you know, it's funny because I have this, I have a theory.
You know, if you look at all of these progressive agendas, right?
Whether it would be the trans agenda or the LGBTQ agenda or the pro in some ways usurp the pro-choice agenda or the hard hard drug initiative or having dual incomes, you know, all of these things decrease birth rate.
Like all of these things decrease birth rate.
So if as soon as birth rate starts to slump, productivity starts to slump and the economy starts to slump.
So the only way that you can prop up that economy is by bringing in mass amounts of immigrants who are socially conservative, who do procreate and who do have children, to then bolster the failing economy because the resident population isn't having kids.
And the crazy thing about the birth rate is it only takes one generation for things to fall off the cliff and go terribly bad.
And we saw that with China's one child policy, how they did that.
And then things went terribly for them.
And now they're trying to create all these incentives so people will have children because if there's no workforce, productivity stops.
So I think Canada is definitely going to see the effects of that.
And I think we already are seeing the effects of that, to be honest.
Sorry, were you talking about climate change?
No, but the climate change agenda, like to because we are too many people on hurt, so we are using too fast their resources on earth.
So we will reach like the end of our resources very soon.
So we need to be less people on hurt for using less of our natural resources.
It's not a thing that has been like around since a while, like that we should be less people.
And now they are banning abortion.
So it's just like, I think it's just two ideology that's controversy.
Yeah.
All of these progressive global climate change, especially all of these agendas are just encouraging people to not have children, encouraging people to not procreate.
I'll share an anecdote with you.
Last year, Dre and I covered one of these extinction rebellion protests at the Lionsgate Bridge in Vancouver, which is the main bridge downtown.
And it's funny because anyway, Trudeau and Singh and these, they have nothing to say about these progressive protests, but as soon as it's a conservative one.
But anyway, so these guys shut down the bridge.
And I was speaking to one of the organizers.
His name was Tilicum Tom, 60-year-old guy.
He was a member of Greenpeace, and he's been an eco, eco-protester, eco-ally, as he put it, for basically his whole life.
And I was asking him, like, why are you out here today?
He's like, I'm out here for my son.
And I'm like, okay, do tell.
He's like, well, my son is, he's 21 years old.
He's a brilliant guy.
And he said to me something a couple days ago just broke my heart.
I'm like, well, what's that?
He's like, dad, I don't want to have kids because I don't want to bring children into this mess of a world that's going to end in 10 years because of climate change or whatever else.
And this guy has like tears in his eyes as he's telling me this, right?
And the thing is, it's like Tilicum Tom, this Tom guy, because of the rhetoric from the far left, because of this climate change rhetoric, he's never going to be a grandfather.
So because of that, he feels so much pain for this environment, this social environment that he actually created within his own family, the seed of doubt that he planted within the heart of his son, that his son doesn't even want to procreate.
His son will never experience the joy of fatherhood, and because of that, Tom will never experience the joy of being a grandfather.
And ultimately, if we're not bringing new people into this world, who's going to change it?
Who's going to be the person to cure cancer?
Who's going to be the people to reform our government?
Who are going to be the great minds in technological evolution for good?
If we're not having children, no one will do that.
That won't happen ultimately.
It's really sad.
He couldn't, you know, sometimes we're so close, we can't see the forest from the trees.
We can't figure out, you know, and he was so wrapped up in what he's so gung-ho on this ideology that he can't see that it's his own ideology that's contributing to the sorrow that he feels.
It's not the world's fault.
It's not everybody else's fault.
It's what he clings on to and believes so much that is actually destroying his family.
It's really heartbreaking, you know.
But I think that's really sad.
Liberal cities, coastal cities are falling victim to that.
This idea that having a child is an awful thing.
It's a curse instead of a blessing.
It's better to focus on your career 100%.
And this idea that gender binary is a social construct.
All these things, they all contribute to not procreating, to not having children, and to not experiencing what a family is.
And a lot of these ideas are being championed by people that come from broken families and ultimately hurt people, hurt people, right?
So it's just, I don't know, it hits a tender cord in me because I've seen, like, I see how people's lives change when they become parents.
I see how they enter like the second gear.
And that's not to say that every child is, obviously, that's not to say that every child comes in like a perfect circumstance, you know.
But at the same time, maybe there needs to be more reverence around what sex is and how we respect our bodies and who we decide to share our bodies with, which are the most personal thing I believe that we can do.
And having the ability to create life is just such an amazing thing.
So anyways.
No, but I understand perfectly what you say.
And that story is really, oof.
It's really sad.
Yeah.
And I think that's a lot of, you know, it's a lot of people feel this way, right?
Why should I bring a child into the world when it's just going to melt or the economy is ending or whatever else?
And it's like, ultimately, it's such a how.
Imagine waking up every day, feeling that way.
Viewing the world to that lens, that everything is over, you know, there's nothing that we can do to make it better.
And, oh, what a terrible way to live your life.
You know, and at the very least, at the very least, I think these politicians and these corporations that are championing these messages without any accountability are responsible for literally like robbing people of their joy and their future because they're planting these ideas.
And at least, you know, on the centrist conservative side of the aisle, I see more hope.
You know, like we need, if we roll up our sleeves and work hard, we can make things better.
But I don't see that from the left.
I see this is your fault.
Everything's going to hell.
The world's on fire.
So, well, that's not a very inspiring message, you know.
And obviously, we're going to see people reacting the way they are: violent protests, divisive narratives, hateful rhetoric, etc., because they don't believe in the future.
They don't believe that there's anything, there's no hope for them, there's no joy for them.
So, what do you expect?
Because what I saw so far, like since I would say, especially during the pandemic, but a little bit before too, but potentially getting so high.
It's so crazy how people are thinking two opposite ways.
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And I don't know how you make that happen to have like really two sides that is completely not capable to talk to each other.
It's just impossible.
Their mindset is just block, you know.
Usually, debate makes it like more gray zone that you can discuss.
I have some opinion, you know, like it was when I was younger, like we were always capable to discuss about issue, topic, or other stuff.
But now it's just like, no, I know what I want, I know what I'm thinking, and I know I'm right, so shut up.
And you have no possibility to discuss to nobody anymore.
And this is the most scary thing that I saw so far rising in Canada.
Yeah, I think that there's, I personally think that there's two contributing factors to this current state where we can't have conversations or be accepting or tolerant of people with other views.
Firstly, if a country, Canada has no national identity, right?
If you look at like the some like a country like the United States, let's say in like the 60s, 70s, 80s, even earlier than that, it was built on this idea of like a Judeo-Christian framework.
So, meaning the law on the land is biblical morality.
So, whether you believe in God or you don't believe in God, the way that we relate with one another is based on these rules.
So, and everyone could agree on that, right?
But as it's kind of like a game of Jenga, right?
So, if that's like a foundational block and then you pull that block from the base, it may seem like things are getting higher, but in fact, it's weaker, right?
The foundation is shakier.
So, I think we're at a point now where we can't agree on what is right and what is wrong and what the truth is.
And we're all fundamentally starting on a different playing field.
So, there isn't anything really in common for us to for us, like there's no middle ground, there's no commonplace because now political issues or social issues are being conflated as moral issues or they're religious.
They're yeah, essentially, like wokeism isn't progressivism, is a religion, right?
So, that's that's the conversation that we're having now, and there's nothing in common.
And also, these things are exacerbated by a decline in quality of life.
So as people, as everything becomes less affordable, the political divide goes further and further and further.
And ultimately, a lot of these issues are being driven economically, because people are, it's harder for them to get by.
So they feel further strained.
And the reality is, like, oftentimes, people that are on the very far right spectrum and the very far left spectrum actually have more in common with each other than people in the middle, because the people that are on the far left and the far right are usually the downtrodden in society.
They're usually socially outcasted.
They're usually struggling financially.
They find no place in society.
They find no way to get ahead.
But in the age of social media now, those voices have the loudest megaphones.
So even though they don't represent the people in the middle that actually have more in common than not having common with one another, these are the voices that dominate culture.
And then our politicians and the grifters and the corporations take advantage of these talking points, cultural hegemony, which is like Marxism 101.
And then that becomes, you know, that's the diatribe.
But that just spreads division further and further and further.
And I think that's where we're at right now in 2022.
And that's why reasonable people are getting swept up and does all of this nonsense on the news.
That's why people can watch the news and think that, oh, my, oh my God, there's Nazis in Ottawa.
It's like, well, no, there isn't.
You know, there really isn't.
But it's like, that's the echo chamber, you know.
Yeah.
So we have like the people who actually believe really well in the mainstream and the people who just realize that they have been like people like mainstream was lying for a while and politician too and they just raise their voices like being really angry about it.
So it's probably why now we see like that kind of polarization that people were so sure that everything that been done during the pandemic saved their life.
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And you have the other side where you see like that is a scam.
Like why people have like locked me down in my economy that now I need to suffer from inflation and consequences on mental illness.
And now we see the desegregation of the society going faster and faster.
So we see some people who are rising their voice against and the other one that raised their voice for it.
So it's just it's probably why we see like as much deep polarization.
But anyway, we did talk a lot about the things that now it's already like five before one.
So we have a couple of chat.
Should we begin by Fraser?
Fraser is say, talking about government incompetence, have you any news on the church fire and who is responsible for setting this fire?
Or is it move on?
Nothing to see here.
Is it Kamloops here?
You went on the ground there.
Maybe you're better than me to answer to that.
Yeah, so Dre and I went back to Kamloops to Kamloops, Swatmuk, First Nation, and the Kamloops Indian School.
And we actually shot quite a lengthy report.
You can expect a full-length documentary coming back in the following weeks.
The narrative that was blasted on the huge megaphone for the whole world is quite different than the one that's being subtly uttered.
So, you know, most people think it's quite different than what's actually developing.
The church, the church fires that took place first in Okanagan and then all over the country, it's hard to persecute those.
I mean, we can obviously see what the motivation is, but any sort of proof that these are all affiliated or they're definitely correlated, but that they're affiliated.
I haven't seen any police development on that.
But, you know, again, anecdotally, after being in Okanagan and visiting some of these sites and seeing, you know, these were functioning, a lot of them were functioning churches that had Indigenous congregants.
So people, the word on the ground, it seemed to feel like people felt it was bad actors that were not actually from the reserve that were burning these, at least in Okanagan.
But again, to my awareness, there hasn't been any arrests.
That's a pretty good complete answer, though.
Thank you for the $25.
We have Aquaski $36.
Thank you.
Manitoba government will not repair the badly vandalized Queen Victoria.
She was against slavery segregation.
No one will be charged, though.
They know who fit this all involved.
What do you have about this?
There were hundreds of annuals of who, you know, of the protests that pulled those down.
And if they wanted to persecute, I'm sure they could.
But, you know, ultimately, ultimately, our Canadian politicians, especially our progressive Canadian politicians, saw this Kamloops school disclosure as an opportunity for Canada to have its very own George Floyd BLM mobile.
And they ran with it.
And it dominated our news cycle.
It dominated in the middle of a pandemic.
Our prime minister calls an election, and our election dialogue and debate is completely dominated by the Kamloops narrative and reparation with very little talk about our failing economy, very little talk about affordability, very little talk about actual environmental issues rather than just like platitudes and talking points.
And it worked for them.
And, you know, now that it's done and now that they've been re-elected, even the promises that were made to these bands, like for example, the Kamloops Indian School, they were promised $27 million to come to tribe for mental health and job stimulus.
And they still haven't received a penny of that.
So, you know, again, it's the government just playing people against each other and benefiting off of it.
So I don't think that we will see arrests because the Queen Victoria getting knocked down in Manitoba benefited the media, it benefited the liberals, they took advantage of it, and now that's it.
We move on, you know.
So I don't think that we'll see anything come of it personally.
Too expensive to replace.
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What?
Have you seen what they put in Montreal?
Like they put a big, like freaking ring, a big ring in the air that costs like a couple of million of dollars.
And that represents nothing.
And I was like, this money can go maybe to help citizens with like inflation or maybe like for like the gas or something like that.
But no, they put like a massive ring.
Look, do you see it on your screen?
This is why.
Why?
Like, I was shocked.
I was like, what's the point to put that?
And that, especially because you have no meaning, no, no representation.
Yeah, I would be more scared that that ring fell on my head.
But I'm not going to say, I'm going to see the massive ring when I see how many Money they spend for that instead of the citizen who are suffering right now.
It just blew my mind.
But anyway, Fraser sent us another chat.
$1.
Thanks.
Oh, no, it's Aquaski first.
$1 is first.
Thank you very much, Aquaskis.
Thank you.
She just wanted to thank us.
Thank you, you.
Thank you.
She said thank you to you both.
That's very nice.
Thank you.
Fraser, $1 is.
Thank you, Fraser.
If you're going to be sexually active, then use the pill.
I agree.
Or, like, now you have pill for men.
Yeah.
I think that's great.
I think, you know, it doesn't always work.
No, that's the issue.
I think a lot of people do use it.
It doesn't always work.
Because I was watching one pill that I'm taking, and it's made by Pfizer.
And I was like, should I really take that?
Yeah, I'm boycotting anything, Pfizer, forever for the rest of my life.
Pfizer is everywhere.
We have another one.
It's from King7734.
$1.
Thank you, King.
For Alexa, tabanguette.
Hola.
We tabanguette.
Oh, by the way, it's Quebec Day.
So bonfire de Quebec portout Quebec.
So, yeah, it's Quebec Day today.
So every shop is slow.
So I'm trying to get milk this morning and I was really paying to find a place open.
I think it's only in Quebec that this day it's really a celebration.
I don't think nobody else celebrates that in Canada.
So we don't celebrate Ontario Day, but we don't really celebrate Canada Day because it's the moving day for Quebec people.
So for everybody from Canada, if you end up to Canada Day in Quebec province, you will see a lot of moving trucks.
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And don't be surprised, it's normal.
It's not because everybody is running away.
Well, they can't go anywhere.
They can't get a passport anyway.
So they're stuck.
Thank you for doing this with me today, Alexa.
I really appreciate it.
And your graciousness around the sensitive debate and topic that dominated our live stream today.
Thank you for humoring me here, sweetheart, as always.
So, and happy Quebec Day to you.
Thank you, Matt.
You know, like I'm always talking about you, how talented you are.
I hope that all our viewers know that Matt is a really talented singer.
And if you didn't like, check what he's doing.
This is really just incredible.
Seriously, everybody needs to see like Matt Brevener.
May have audio playlists on my Spotify.
I find your vision of what is going on.
It's really well done.
And you're smart.
You're smart.
And you're well spoken.
So now I'm going to send you some flour.
Yeah, it's always nice to get your flowers while you're still alive, right?
So I'll take that.
Yeah, exactly.
I really appreciate that.
Take it because you will not receive much.
Yeah, it's true.
All right.
And thanks to everybody tuning in on the live stream on all the different networks.