Kat and Nat critique Bill 67 in Ontario, where only Belinda Carhalios opposed it, while Rick Nichols allegedly supported Critical Race Theory (CRT) without understanding its Marxist roots. They argue CRT redefines equality as systemic imbalance, labeling white children as oppressors and pushing gender ideology via Disney’s $5M activist donation and "Don’t Say Gay" capitulation, mirroring China’s state control tactics. Parents must reclaim authority by avoiding ideological indoctrination in schools and media, framing it as a battle to preserve biblical values and societal order against perceived radicalization. [Automatically generated summary]
Hello and welcome to Misunderstood, a show for all you culturally and politically misunderstood ladies and gents.
We are your hosts.
I'm Kat.
And I'm Nat.
And today we're going to tackle critical race theory following the passing of the second reading of Bill 67 in Ontario and discuss how critical race theory and queer theory are intertwined.
We're also going to talk a little bit about Disney's response to the parental rights and education bill that was recently signed by Florida Governor Rhonda DeSantis and discuss whether Disney should be boycotted.
Hmm.
But first, we're going to start things off with our Patentin Culture Shock Moment of the Week.
Take it away, Kat.
So this week, Justin Trudeau put out a really fun video.
He's still trying to encourage everyone to get vaccinated.
Let's just watch the video.
It's very brief.
It's a clip from a video we're not going to watch because we don't need to hear him.
But take it, take a look at this and we'll talk about it.
Getting that shot really was an amazing feeling.
It hits you.
It hits you, man.
It's like a rush, dude.
Like, he is trying to convince people to get vaccinated by pretending it's like a rush.
Like, especially after two years of this, okay?
Like, it was supposed to be two shots.
Now it's going to be four.
It's like endless shots.
Like, come on.
The campaigning needs to end, Trudeau.
People have already decided.
We're done with the vaccine, Trudeau.
And like, we're what are we?
14-year-olds trying to get our first high.
Oh, it gives you a rush, man.
Oh, it's like so good.
It feels so good.
It's like, it gives you a rush.
Yeah, because you're clearly deranged.
You're unhinged.
Is that defamation for me to say he's unhinged?
I don't know, but we'll find out.
I'm saying it.
Yeah.
We're owning it.
Anyway, so that we don't need to spend any money.
I'm shocked on that man.
He is egregious.
But I think takeaway is just don't listen to him.
Don't listen to anyone who loves like this.
Yeah.
Or like, takeaway for me is like, don't get a medical procedure just because the prime minister says, it's like crazy, man.
Nailed it.
Yeah.
All right.
Racism and Skin Color00:15:33
So now we're going to talk about critical race theory.
So as some of you may know, Bill 67 has recently passed its second reading in the Ontario legislature.
It was originally introduced by an NDP MPP.
So that's a mouthful.
Yeah, and apparently the only MPP who voted against it was Belinda Carhalios.
So that's nice.
There's one good one, guys, in our...
Is this the bill that Rick Nichols said that he voted for because he didn't know what it was about?
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah, he didn't know what critical race theory was, right?
actually a lot of people don't so we're gonna we're not gonna spend too much time on this topic because we're dipping the toe Yeah.
We're dipping it.
Exactly.
It's a big topic.
It's a frickles into what we really want to talk about.
Yeah, let's define it.
So, okay, let's, yes, let's define it.
And I watched as a prep for this, I watched your interview with Samuel Say, which I was actually very informative.
And he's very well spoken.
Yeah.
He really is.
Did I write down what he says it was?
No, I did not.
However, something that I liked about this is he said something about how equality used to mean like getting rid of inequality, but now it's like creating more inequality.
So like past inequality can only be solved by like future inequality.
Right.
It's like reverse.
Yeah.
I hate to use that word, but like reverse racism all.
It's like you want the oppressor to be oppressed now.
Yeah, exactly.
And it's like, I didn't, I thought I knew what racism was, which is like these people are here and these people are here and that's bad.
But now we're like, okay, this is good though?
Like just completely flipping that dynamic.
Exactly.
I thought we were supposed to even things out.
So that was.
Yeah, that's a great takeaway.
So I guess maybe just some historical context.
So critical race theory was founded by a Harvard law professor named Derek Bell in the 70s right after the civil rights movement.
So one of the things I took away from, so Samuel Say is a blogger at slowtorright.com, and this is kind of his shtick.
But one of the things he said was like, basically, they don't want Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream.
They want Karl Marx's dream, which is interesting because I don't think a lot of people make the connection between critical race theory and Marxism.
Yes, and there's a very, very like tight, tight relationship there.
The ideological offspring.
Yeah, you just change like one word, which I guess would be like financial inequity with like racial inequity.
Right.
So basically you just copy and paste the whole theory.
Yeah.
And I guess basically what these people believe is that literally all of our institutions are systemically racist and they believe white people are naturally or socially inclined to maintain their oppressive power and privilege.
So basically I don't know if I'm correct in saying this, but I kind of thought Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream was to kind of make us colorblind in a way.
Like we were all equal.
I don't see your skin color.
I see your character, right?
Like he wanted you to be judged by the contents of your character.
Wasn't Martin Luther King, Martin Luther King Dave recently, like in the last couple months?
And I remember people saying like, we need to drop this.
It's like, okay.
The man, like, like the whole concept of like being judged by the content of your character, not by the color of your skin, people are like, oh, that's so outdated.
Like, we need to drop that.
And it's like, wait, wow.
So that's interesting.
He is rolling around in his grave right now.
But basically, now they're trying to, I think they've already been teaching this in schools, but now they're trying to legislate it.
So essentially, if you're like a kid and you are assumed to be racist because of your subconscious or whatever, you can be punished.
And then, of course, great.
We've talked about this on the show before, how institutions have started to implement these.
I'm waving my hands like Justin Trudeau, don't trust me.
But institutions are highly suspect.
Yeah, yeah.
Institutions have started to implement these sort of programs too, where people learn about their white privilege and stuff.
So, well, I have a question.
And it's not really directed at you, but we'll discuss it maybe.
My question is, why can't history just cover this?
Like, I don't think we should be whitewashing or blowing over important historical moments where like minorities have been well documented as being oppressed.
Like, we know that this happened with the Japanese and the internment camps and the Aboriginals and residential schools.
And we know that this happens in Canada.
So let's not blow past it and pretend it never happened.
No.
But do we need to change the curriculum so much?
Like, we already have a history.
Kids study history.
So maybe we just need to include more uncomfortable history in those classes.
I don't remember learning about residential schools when I was in elementary school.
So other people I've talked to said that they had, but I was like, okay, so there's where we failed.
I should have known about that.
I agree.
I think that's an important part of your history.
I mean, in the U.S., they learn about the abolishment of slavery.
And we do a lot of Aboriginal studies in school, but I don't specifically remember.
I don't remember.
Maybe you just lose them to England.
No, I think.
I think you're right.
I've never learned about it.
So where can we improve?
Well, yeah, we can talk about things that are uncomfortable in history and teach things, but I think that it should be taught to a classroom of equals.
Instead of being like, this student here is oppressed and this is the oppressor.
Like, that's so scary and dangerous.
Right.
And that's part of these Marxist plan.
Really.
They want, like, and how sickening that these people want these innocent white children to hate themselves.
To hate themselves.
Yeah.
Well, we'll get into why.
There's a theory and a really cool theory about why that is.
But if you were to look at it from a perspective of a parent who doesn't actually think like going down the rabbit hole with the tinfoil hat theory where you're like, I want my child to learn about oppression.
Say my kid's white and I want them to learn about oppression.
I remember my dad explaining to me, I was so young, but I remember him explaining, like, oh, like, some people think people with different skin color are less than them.
Right.
And I was like, and he's like, this concept is called racism.
I remember that conversation, and I was like, that's crazy.
Yeah, and you, but the thing that I've taken away from that is you had to be taught to hate.
Like, you're learning that other people hate.
You don't have that inherent in you.
No, I had to be taught, like, oh, I didn't realize like skin color could determine how people treat each other.
I was like, that's interesting.
And also, the conversation wasn't, Catherine, you, you five-year-old kid, are an oppressor.
How does my skin tone make me an oppressor?
It doesn't.
It's terrifying to think that we're teaching children that.
Especially, like, it's because obviously critical race theory is now seeping into the church and Christian establishments.
And, like, how can you justify that biblically?
Like, you are like fearfully and wonderfully made.
You think when you go to heaven, God's going to be like, you're white.
I don't think so, buddy.
Get out of here.
You're white.
You're allowed to get white.
Exactly.
It doesn't make any sense.
That's completely unbiblical.
So the fact that any Christian organization or church or a Christian in general is embracing this is like completely ridiculous.
And I just, it's evil.
It's completely evil.
It's straight up evil.
Yeah.
Especially when we, you know, discuss why this would be happening.
Because like you can say, okay, well, we want kids to learn about oppression and racism.
Okay, but my dad taught me that in five seconds.
And I was like, oh, wow.
And I'm not going to be racist.
Yeah, like that.
That could hurt people.
Yeah.
Like, not that I had the inclination, but it's like, if I see that, like, stand up for, like, it happens.
You see kids making racist jokes sometimes when you're really young.
And it's like, that's wrong.
Like, don't engage in that behavior.
Like, it doesn't really, as we evolve as a species, like, why do we need to keep devolving back to like, oh, I'm, my skin tone is this, so therefore I am greater or lesser than you because of your pigment?
Right.
And wasn't it?
I think it was Denzel Washington.
And if it's not Denzel, I'm so sorry, Denzel, you don't deserve this.
But he was, I think it was him or someone else, I don't know, who basically said, like, the best way to end racism is to stop talking about it.
It was.
Was it Morgan Freeman?
It was Morgan Freeman.
They're both so great.
Yeah.
I just can't.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Like the two greatest.
I remember that scene.
And that's another thing, though.
Samuel Say has mentioned this before on his blog, how he gets death threats.
He doesn't get death threats for talking about abortion and like advocating against abortion, but he gets more death threats about speaking out about critical race theory.
And he is a black man from Ghana.
Like, how does this make sense?
No, he's a big.
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
He's talking about it.
He has no idea.
And I think my biggest takeaway from this is that, and this is kind of something he talks about a lot too, is that anti-racists and white supremacists both agree that your skin color is the most important thing about you.
And like, that's just completely not true.
There's a really, really funny sketch.
I forget the comedian's name, Ryan Long.
Oh, yeah.
And it's woke versus racist.
And they have, it's like one guy's wearing a t-shirt that says racist, and one guy's wearing a t-shirt that says woke.
And they're like, I believe that the most important thing about me is my skin tone.
And they're like, yeah, I agree.
It's like, so crazy.
Same thing.
Same thing.
It's like, it's not the most important thing about you.
I think it's a beautiful thing that God created us to.
It's like your eye color.
Yeah, it's a beautiful thing that we should celebrate.
We should celebrate God's creation, but we are all made in the image of God, which means that, like...
What color is God?
Exactly.
Exactly, though.
Like, it just doesn't matter.
We're all his children.
Everyone, just freaking calm down.
I found this really troubling quote from this True North article that was, you sent me.
It says, meanwhile, proponents of critical race theory in Canada hold the belief that treating everybody equally is actually racist.
And one must actively work to rid oneself and others of inherent racism.
So what?
I have no idea what racism is.
I thought it was this, and now it's this.
That's a great point because if everything is racist and everyone is racist, does that mean that it doesn't actually exist then?
Like, how do you, like, it's just like this, like, weird, cyclical.
It's a postmodernism.
It's so meta.
Like, it's like so postmodern that you're like, nothing is real and everything is racism.
It's like, it doesn't make sense.
And also, it's funny, the COVID pandemic has really highlighted this, that we, on one hand, woke people are saying the institutions, specifically the justice system, are inherently racist, systematically racist, or systemically, I never know.
We should use both.
Whatever.
I'm using either.
But at the same time, we should completely trust the system, the government, the justice system to handle our health affairs.
I'm getting ticketed for not being mass.
We should completely hand ourselves over to the racist justice system.
What?
Well, it's the same within Hollywood.
Like, so Hollywood always complains about diversity.
They need to be more diverse.
It's like, but Hollywood is Hollywood.
So what are you guys doing?
Like, you are Hollywood.
You are in charge of these decisions.
So it's your fault.
So stop Matthew McConaughey.
Yeah, stop putting Matthew McConaughey and friggin What's their Jennifer Lawrence in a movie?
Like put someone else right like it's your problem literally the grandchildren of old Hollywood people that are still in the same groups like the Gillenhalls.
Yeah.
Like their parents were something.
Yes.
And Coda Johnson.
All of them.
So much nepotism and it's like, well, you guys are the problem.
Like if Kirsten Dunce and Leonardo DiCaprio, like they're all offspring of creepy Hollywood people.
It's like stop putting your grandkids in the movies.
Yes.
Gosh.
I feel like an old person, but my God.
So cancel Hollywood.
Yes, we've said it before.
Let's talk about why critical race theory and queer theory or gender ideology are intertwined maybe.
Yes.
So we talk about the Twitter thread?
Yeah, let's do it.
The great Twitter thread.
The great Twitter thread.
So I don't even know who this guy is.
Yeah, so he is a podcaster, and his podcast is called, I'm guessing it's a Christian podcast.
So his name is Josh Dawes, and he's the host of The Great Awokening.
Well, thank you for doing that.
Yeah, no problem.
Okay, I got it.
So do you want to, yeah, so we'll link to the tweet.
Oh, here, yeah.
Here's the meme that got it all started.
Right, because this was shared, I guess, last week, and a lot of people.
Can you scroll down a tiny bit?
I just want to see what's.
Yeah, so the make, don't make me tap on the sign sign is it's not rocket science, guys.
They're just evil and want to diddle kids.
Oh, gosh.
So this Twitter thread is saying basically no, like, woke leftists who are talking about gender theory with your kids don't necessarily want to diddle your children.
And I was like, are you sure?
Yeah.
But then I looked into it.
I actually like, it's kind of creepy, but I googled like percentage of humans that are pedophiles.
And it's quite low.
Like, it's really hard to do.
That's a good sign.
The thing was saying, like, it's really, really, really hard to calculate this number because people don't admit to being pedophiles.
But they estimate it's about 2% of the population.
Too many.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Glad they're the minority.
Exactly.
So the fact that all of these people, they're probably not all pedophiles.
No.
So why are they so obsessed with talking to kids about sex and gender?
Because we know that the Don't Say Gay bill, which is that's just what people call it, but it's actually the parental rights and education bill.
It only pertains to children from kindergarten to grade three.
So those are young children.
So why are people so upset that they're not allowed to talk to young, young children about their gender, their sexuality, they being teachers?
Yeah.
Why are they so upset about this if probably they're not actually trying to diddle children?
And there comes the Twitter thread.
Yes.
So we already kind of broke down the critical race theory stuff, but basically what these teachers do to your children, by the way, so I hope you're paying attention, mom and dad.
They introduce it to radicalize these young kids.
So they're like, this is critical race theory, which obviously, as we mentioned, instills a negative identity, a negative way.
It divides kids up.
So they're no longer peers and equals.
They're now white kids and black kids and minorities.
Oppressor versus the oppressed, which, as we've mentioned before, is Marxism.
So, and we've actually already talked about the implication of this on the show because remember that substack of the girl who detransitioned.
Yes.
So, we've already kind of touched on this, but basically, once critical race theory, which was something that she was kind of exposed to in a weird way on her Tumblr.
Yeah, exactly.
It kind of makes these white kids be like, Well, I have a negative self-identity, so how do I get out of this?
How do I get out of being the oppressor?
So, then enter queer studies, gender studies, or gender ideology, or whatever.
It's typically coined as queer theory.
Queer the queer queer theory, which is already a word.
We're trademarking that.
Yeah, so now they give you an opportunity to no longer be the white cishet female who's the oppressor, but now you can be like, Well, I'm non-binary.
Yeah, I'm queer, which is trans.
I'm trans now.
So, so you go from being an oppressor to back to a friendly victim, right?
And now you're in the club and people don't hate you, and you don't have to hate yourself anymore.
And of course, they want to get them young, these teachers, these young minds are so impressionable.
Exactly.
Yeah, and basically, too, the reason this bill is actually a good thing is because this teacher can be indoctrinating your child, and you may have no idea, but this bill basically prevents that from happening.
Like, parents deserve and have a right to be aware of what their kids are being taught.
So, if a secret's being kept, something about like you know, teachers teaching a child about sexuality or just sex in general or gender identity, like or like the kid has changed genders and the parents don't even know that's happened.
We've read stories exactly, like it's despicable, and a parent has a right to know.
And that's what this bill actually ensures: that the parents are informed.
Yes, so it's actually protecting children.
Yes, sorry, Amy Schumer.
Yeah, I don't understand why all these Hollywood actors are like raven Simone.
Parental Rights Debate00:10:14
Yeah, like she should know, like it doesn't affect you, you're an adult.
What's your problem?
We're talking about children, like young children, and not even your children.
If you want to talk to your own child about their gender and their sexuality, like that's not my problem, yes.
But to say that the teacher has the right to know secrets about your child's sexuality, first of all, sexuality and children, there's not really a thing.
Grade three, there's no sexuality in grade three.
Grade three is like, how old are you in grade three?
I think you're seven, eight, maybe.
So, like, you're not getting down with either gender, it really makes no difference.
And you're really not even old enough to pick your gender because you're you're still figuring yourself out at that age.
So, why are we so upset?
Yeah, um, not to mention, too, though, like, if you're in grade three and you're questioning your gender, you are the minority, like you are the stark minority.
And usually, as we've mentioned thousands of times on the show, you outgrow it with proper guidance and counseling and prayer, you know.
So, it's this is not a normal thing, it's not just like this massive like pandemic of children.
Yeah, like all what's in the water, yeah.
Like, what is happening if all these children are actually gendered as forest?
It's just not, it's not possible called the public education system, but like the next step in this Marxist ideology or this, the argument that this Twitter thread is implying is that so the kid has now been given a get out of jail free card, which is, well, you might be cis-het white oppressor, but if you're trans or gender-bending in any way, then you're no longer an oppressor.
So, then the kid goes home and is like, hey, mom and dad, I am now Jennifer instead of Gerard.
And if the parents show any resentment or resistance to this whatsoever, the kid has been programmed to say, Oh, my parents are queer haters, they're homophobes, they're transphobes.
I cannot trust them.
All I can do is trust my school community, and so I'm now going to completely cut out my parents from my decisions.
And the industry, the industrial complex of raising children for you has won.
They've now taken your child and they've severed the parent-child relationship.
And that's arguably the goal here.
Yeah, definitely.
And then, of course, and this, I know we just talked about how pedophiles are the minority, praise the Lord.
But this actually, this secretive relationship or this like special bond that this child now has with the teacher creates so much room for abuse.
Creepy.
Because if a parent's not aware of what's going on in their child's life, then, hello, predator, come on.
What is creepier than an adult saying to your kid, like, well, we have a little secret and you can talk about your pee-pee and wee-wee with me, teacher.
Like, no.
No, that's disgusting.
That's disgusting.
That is so disgusting.
The only way it's appropriate is when you're like, at a certain age, they do sex ed and they, back in the day when I was in school, they put the boys in a room and they put the girls in a room and they'll be like, all right, periods, tampons.
Like, that's okay.
Watch this woman give birth.
Yeah, like, that's upsetting.
And it stopped me from having sex for a long time.
It was absolutely terrible.
It worked.
Yeah, it worked.
Yeah, and there was, okay, so there is another example of how, just how dangerous and I think detrimental it is to a child's life if they are exposed to these ideologies and they are kept apart from their parents.
Did you read the article about the girl who committed suicide?
Yeah, yeah.
So maybe we should just quickly touch on that because I think that's a really good example.
So basically there's a mom whose daughter committed suicide after transitioning and she blames her school.
So her name was Yaeeli.
And basically the mom explains that the school encouraged her to take hormones, undergo gender reassignment surgery and secretly join an LGBT group without her mom knowing.
And they explicitly told this girl not to tell her mom.
Yeah, they were like, your mom won't understand.
Yeah.
She's going to hate you.
And it's like, you didn't even talk.
So they didn't talk to the mom about any of this either.
So she doesn't know what's going on.
So she's like, maybe I wasn't going to react that way.
You don't even know.
You don't even know.
It's not even like she has a history of bigoted behavior.
That's a great point.
Like you cannot assume how someone's going to react to that.
Like people love their kids.
The theory is like they, I mean, again, this is just a theory, but like they want to set it up like your parents going to not be accepting of it so that the kid's already like on their back foot.
She's kind of grooming.
It's super creepy.
Yeah.
It's really creepy.
And basically, I guess what happened to this girl, she found community with her school.
And she had like older kids at school who kind of gave her like a walkthrough on how to become a foster kid so she could separate from her mom and get her surgery.
Because her surgery would be covered by the government if she was in foster care, but not by her parent if the parent didn't want to go through with it.
But it was interesting in that article, the mom says like she still, they still had meetings, like she would still have dinner with her daughter and they specifically said you cannot talk about God during these sessions, these supervised sessions with your kid.
And also she said she was, the daughter was always like very in touch with her mother and would send her messages like, I love you, mother.
Like I know that you think like what I'm doing is a lot, but I want you to know like you've always been a really good mom.
Like what about those text?
And she said like in the article, it said like we've seen these text messages.
They exist.
So the daughter who was so troubled still very much loved and respected her mother's opinion.
And if she had just been like encouraged to discuss things with her, she might still be alive today.
It's like totally tragic.
No, it's so horrific.
And I think it just really speaks to the fact that the government, schools, teachers, medical professionals, these people do not love you as much as your parents do.
No.
Okay?
Like, obviously, there are exceptions to the rule here.
But like, overall, like, these people don't actually care about your well-being.
You got to just follow the money when it comes to these industries as well.
You know, the gender transitioning industry is quite lucrative from what I've heard.
Well, we know about that.
Actually, we should make a note to do a profile on that teeth eater.
Yeah, the teeth eater.
That's a disgusting teacher.
Eater, not eater.
Yeah, different.
I want to read a quote from that Daily Wire article that you were just talking about.
It's kind of a long quote, but I'll just cut it down here.
No, go for it.
Because the state took Abby's daughter away, her depression got worse.
And without having her mother's love, she took her own life.
I think the school district ultimately is responsible for her death.
I think that's from the lawyer or someone who was representing the mom.
Yeah.
Disgusting.
Oh, yeah.
They took your kid away, didn't let you talk to them about something serious going on in her life.
And a life was lost.
Like someone's daughter is now dead.
It's that child had endless potential.
And that's what this bill aims to prevent, arguably.
Or to encourage.
Well, to prevent, sorry, these kinds of suicides, like these kinds of deaths and stuff like that.
Yeah, like it's a good bill, okay?
So anyone who is in opposition to it, it makes you look like a creep.
Yeah, and also makes you look like you're not educated because if you just took the time to like look up the bill, you'd say, oh, it's only talking about like little, little tiny kids.
And it's trying to give them the option of having their parent involved in what's going on in the classroom.
And for teachers not to be like, hey, me and my gay lover who are gender bending went like that one teacher that was like, oh, I can't talk about my kayaking trips on the week.
You can.
Yeah.
You just don't say that you boinked your boyfriend.
Yeah, exactly.
Like no one needs to hear it.
And it goes for straight people too.
Yeah, but that's.
No one cares about your personal life.
You can be like, oh, I went kayaking.
We saw a moose.
Yeah.
That's great.
That's cool.
Not we boned on a rock.
Yeah, and then we saw a moose.
Yeah.
I was like, I don't care.
Just skip all that part.
No one cares.
You can still be like, oh, how was your Christmas, Mr. Whatever?
It was wonderful.
My family did this.
My family consists of a Zur, a Zim, a Zay.
Like, no one cares.
No, and you know, for like a long time, we haven't been talking about these things in the classroom.
And I think it's worked out all right for most of us, okay?
Like, look at us.
We're pretty normal.
Debatable.
Should we talk a little bit about Disney's reaction to all of this?
Yes.
Oh, there's one more.
There was that Substack article that's very similar to the Daily Wire thing.
And I just want to read one quote from it.
I actually wrote like 17 quotes, but I'm going to pick my favorite.
Yeah, pick your fave.
Okay.
So I was wondering, like, why would people be drawn to this gender, like other than the fact that you can become from an oppressor to the oppressed, which is apparently in vogue now?
Yeah.
There was an interesting quote here from the Substack article, which was written by a similar situation.
It was a mother, her daughter hasn't died, but her daughter was being groomed, basically, by a therapist.
And she said, like, in her first 30-minute session with the therapist, which she only found out after years because she had to ask for the transcripts because the daughter was 11.
Oh.
But when within 30 minutes of this therapist meeting this girl, she had diagnosed her with gender dysphoria and started calling her him.
And so the mother would have sessions with the therapist and she would say, how is it going?
Like, what's going on with whatever her name is?
And the therapist would say, what do you think is going on?
She never gave her any, any indication whatsoever.
And then finally, when the mother finds out like her daughter's getting more and more reclusive and depressed, and she finally gets hold of these documents that say like what happened in the therapy sessions and she's like, wow, you diagnosed my kid within 30 minutes of meeting her, where I was her mother her whole life.
Anyway, so that's the backup of the kidding.
So this quote is like kind of on like, why would this kid even want to go down that road?
And it opened my eyes a little bit.
It said, misery and self-righteous indignation were the price of admission into their social group.
And my daughter desperately wanted to be part of a social group.
So this mother talked about how she had two boys and a girl and they grew up in a neighborhood with mostly young boys.
So her daughter always kind of had like a weird relationship with other girls.
Like she just didn't have a lot of girlfriends.
So she had a hard time like breaking into female circles.
She's a tomboy.
Exactly.
So then this gender ideology thing gave her an excuse to be like, oh yeah, I hate myself too.
Like I'm awkward.
Like, oh, it's probably because you're like us and we're actually boys.
And it's like, girls are so susceptible to peer contagion.
Yeah, for sure.
Crazy.
Being a tween is hard.
I once got glasses because my friend got glasses.
Yeah, and I went to the doctor.
I was like, yeah, I can't see anything.
I need glasses.
But I did not.
No, that's what I said.
Like, that's peer contagion.
It's serious.
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No, you're absolutely correct.
I think most young women can relate to that.
And now I can't see.
Now she can't see.
But you know what?
Sorry.
Still better than being sterilized.
Still better.
But yeah, it's just, it's crazy how these people, though, these medical professionals, these teachers who are in a position of trust, you'd think, are preying on innocent lives.
And I just think it's satanic.
Like, full stop.
Like, I actually think this gender confusion is so satanic.
And like adults are supposed to be looking out for kids.
We're not supposed to be confusing them.
Like, they're confused.
Life is already confusing.
They don't know anything about anything.
They don't understand.
Most of them have been locked away for two years because of the pandemic.
Like, adults need to check themselves.
Like, honestly, like, there is a really special place in hell for people who confuse a child.
Yeah, or who think that their own personal story is so important to tell.
Like, people need to know that I came out at nine.
No, they don't.
Yeah.
They do not need to know about my sexual journey.
They do not need to know about yours.
They're children.
They need to learn how to read and math and how to like talk to each other and how to communicate with each other and learn history and reason.
Yeah.
Critical thinking.
Yeah.
Critical thinking is probably the biggest gift you can give your kid.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Not an Xbox.
Unless they want that too.
That's kind of fun.
Yeah, they're fun.
Yeah, let's talk about Disney.
Not against fun.
Yeah, so Disney, Disney, Disney.
Everyone knows about Disney.
Everybody loves Disney.
Okay, so basically, originally, Disney, the CEO, Bob Chapek, actually refused to let Disney take a stance after the Florida bill passed, which is fair because Disney should just be about Disney.
Mickey ears and funnel cakes.
Yeah, you know, the good stuff.
But of course, as with most corporations in Western culture, he caved.
He bent a knee to the minority, by the way, the mob, which is always the minority.
Like it's never.
They're loud.
They're just real loud.
Yeah, so basically, he bent a knee and he launched a task force and listening tour and promised to use Disney's market power to oppose similar laws.
And he donated $5 million of the company's money to an activist group that refused the donation until the company took meaningful action on the Florida bill.
Since when is it Disney's job to do anything about legislation?
It's just because Disney World is in Florida and they're like, what do you want?
Like, do you want them to move Disney World?
That's not going to happen.
That's not happening.
There are like roads and dedicated like transit services that are built there.
Yeah.
Like there are buildings with water slides.
Yeah, there are.
They're not moving that.
And they're fun.
So with another ask.
It just kind of speaks to the fact though that like if you give the mob an inch like they will take them out.
Like where's it going to stop now?
And we've already seen actually that it is already a slippery slope with the direction Disney's headed and we'll talk about that a little bit more.
But like it's just interesting like what like we shouldn't want Disney who like literally caters to children to let far left progressive dictate how the companies run.
Like these people are kind of creepy.
They're super creepy and they're being so overt about it.
Yeah.
Did you see that, I forget which article it was in, but it was Latoya Ravenue.
She's an executive there.
I looked at her IMDb page and she pretty much exclusively works on children's shows.
Okay.
And it's weird because she was like, yeah, like our not-so-secret gay agenda, like she said on a company Zoom call or something.
And it's like, you could joke about that if you were working for Netflix and you're making adult content.
Sure.
Like, I would probably roll my eyes at it.
Yeah.
Because it's, like, overrepresentative or whatever.
But whatever.
Who cares?
Like, adults, do your thing.
But you're like, I specifically work on children's shows, and we have a very poignant gay agenda.
Like, that's messed up.
And this is going to probably get me into trouble, but we love getting into trouble on this show.
But why does there need to be a gay agenda at all?
Like, why do we need to pander to the five-ish percent of the population?
You got gay marriage.
Like, you're pretty.
Like, you can go into any establishment you want if you're gay.
No one cares.
I don't care if you're gay.
Live your life.
Just don't, like, like, don't try to push anything on anyone else.
And we won't try to push anything on you.
Like, I don't get it.
Like, I don't have a hetero agenda.
No, me either.
Like, I'm not trying to hetero people.
No, because it's just, it's just, it's a weird thing to do.
It's a weird thing to push.
Like, why do you have a gay agenda at all?
We need to play this rope.
Yeah, we should play this Raven.
Can we play this?
Cause it's so funny.
Just her face and how, like, okay, we'll just play it.
Yeah.
Let her.
I'm going to say this, and this is my thing.
If there's a don't say gay bill, there should be a don't say straight bill.
Because it's not fair.
And there are multiple kinds of humans in this world, and you are ruining the psyche, the confidence of so many young children because you are discrediting their parents, the people they love, the people that raise them, the people that teach them the manners when they walk into that schoolroom.
So it's not just don't say gay.
It's like, don't talk about gender ideology and sexuality with kids.
No, yes, they do have a don't say straight bill.
If you're talking to three-year-olds, frig.
You just don't, yeah.
She doesn't even know anything.
When she gets the mic drop moment, like, I know.
And it's funny because, like, Raven, I thought you were psychic.
Like, you wouldn't know what the bill was actually about.
Like, as a black lesbian millionaire.
Yes.
She should not be like, there is no representation.
No one's talking about it.
It's like, lady, like, you have multiple shows and series on Disney.
Like, you're fine.
Yeah, like, I do not feel represented.
I don't get it.
I don't get why celebrities are being so strangely exact.
That's the in-vogue thing.
I guess so.
I think, I'm sure part, it's partially pressure, but I think also like a lot of them do seem to have a bit of a, they go along with this Marxist agenda, so I don't know.
You know, I probably shouldn't say this.
But there is a lot of abuse in Hollywood.
Yeah.
Especially with people who started out as child actors.
Well, definitely.
Disney, Disney stars.
We've seen how some of them have turned out.
Hello, Demi.
Hello, Demi.
Exactly.
And the Olson twins.
Like, she's, you know, Raven Simone is not.
She hasn't, I mean, she's had a healthy career, I guess, but I'm sure she would be amongst those people who are like, yeah, that probably messed me up a little bit.
So like, let's not make more kids messed up by adding like weird pressures from adults and like strange adults telling them about their lives and their bodies.
Like we need less of that.
We need more parents and church and love and family.
That's actually a really good point too.
And do you think partially these Disney stars, because Demi Lovato really tries to push this on, she tries to push her agenda on people too, I find a lot.
And it's like, is it because misery loves company?
Yes.
Yeah.
Like these people just don't want you to actually be happy.
They just want you to be as miserable as an argument.
I think maybe.
But honestly, like if you're gay, like be gay.
Like if you're straight, be straight.
Like just please, let's enough with this like these like.
Stop talking to little kids who aren't sex.
It's like so simple.
Straight, gay, straight sex, gay sex.
Who cares?
Stop talking about it with children.
Please.
That's all we're asking.
Three.
Great.
Grade three is young.
Like let's take it from there.
Yes.
And you know, like Disney is for children.
So if you're an adult and you're upset about how Disney's handling this bill, maybe you're too old to get it.
Yeah, maybe stop watching Disney.
Like you're like, oh, there's not enough gay couples in this Disney movie I'm watching.
Well, it's like, well, you're 40.
Yeah, go watch friggin' True Blood or whatever.
Yeah, like go on Netflix or something.
I don't know, okay?
There's a lot.
There's a lot of options.
Yeah, exactly.
There's options to watch tons of stuff.
There's tons of gay, gay stuff to watch.
I watch it.
It's good content.
There you go.
Not showing it to children.
Yeah.
Let's talk a little bit maybe about how Disney also isn't going to call kids boys and girls anymore.
So, like I said, it's a slippery slope.
Where does this end?
Where does this end?
And I actually have a really scary thought.
Tell us.
Before, well, I saw this on Twitter.
I can't remember who tweeted it, but this person basically tweeted, like, so we're erasing the definition of a woman.
What happens when we erase the definition of a child?
And that's what happens when we, exactly.
What happens when we erase the definition of a child?
You know what happens.
Children are getting abused.
Exactly.
And so, like, when we erase, like, well, women are being abused by the erasure of our exactly.
Look at, like, I mean, the perfect example is sports, Leah Thomas, and even prisons.
Like, if someone identifies as a woman and they go and they harm an actual biological woman in prison, it's considered a woman-on-woman crime.
Even if they have a penis.
Yeah, so that's great for us.
But so, like, this whole thing about words, like, we're changing it from boys to girls.
Like, I just think, okay, sure, that's not changing the definition of a kid, but where is the line here?
Yeah, like, it's literally 1984 where they have the new speak dictionary and they're always taking out words from it because the more words you have, the more opportunity there is for nuance and discussion and thinking.
And if you limit the language, you limit all of that.
It's just this or this.
And it's like, well, human could be child, could be adult.
I'm going to treat it the same way.
No, you're not.
Yeah, and I think child.
Sima, sir.
A thousand percent.
And I think when you start to play this game, when you redefine words, you create chaos.
And humans don't do well in chaotic environments.
We don't.
We need order.
It's inherent.
It's in our nature.
So like, let's stop letting these crazy people like, you know, dictate everything for everyone when they're just creeps.
It's called homeschooling.
Yeah, that's another great option.
Please homeschool.
Yeah, I would be doing that.
Yeah, so basically, and this kind of goes back to like what we were talking about already, but like Disney's saying that boys and saying, like calling boys boys and girls girls isn't inclusive enough.
And like for me, it's like, well, what kid at Disney is non-binary?
No kid is non-binary.
So like we were saying earlier, any adult who's creeped out by this probably is too old for Disney.
Let's play the clip that she has ready to go because she kind of reminds me of it.
Yeah, let's let her roll.
Oh, it's an eye roll.
I'm here as a mother of two queer children, actually.
One transgender child and one pansexual child.
And they even have a leader.
Pansexual children.
And that was the thing that really got me.
So this lady is like so many of us.
She has two queer children last year.
She's going to whip out at this opportunity.
What?
Make her seem like a better CEO.
Isn't this like a statistical anomaly, though?
Yeah, two kids who are.
And when she says child, are you talking like a 20-year-old child?
Like, my mom still refers to me as a child.
I hope that's the case.
I really hope because it's like, if you're talking about an actual.
Well, then it seems like you're pushing an agenda on your children.
Yeah, like what are the odds?
Exactly.
People do like Tegan and Sarah, right?
Sure.
They were two lesbian sisters, right?
Yeah, I think so.
I don't know, but I'm pretty sure.
So it can happen.
Yeah, it's not normal.
It's a statistical anomaly.
Yeah.
And fine, you love your kids no matter what.
And I'm just wondering, like, I wonder how old those kids are.
Like, is it a pansexual child of 18 or older lady?
Then sure, whatever.
Let them be.
But like, also, if they're 18, like, why are you referring to them as a child and like, you're a mother of these children?
Like, oh my God.
Either way, it's creepy and weird.
It is.
And it's just like, like, she's just trying to make herself like give herself some credit here, I guess.
And also, it's just the.
Basically, though, like, it's just weird that all these adults are deciding to push all this propaganda on content for kids.
Like, that's just not.
And now that, I mean, obviously, like, the Twitter thread that we keep referring to is not science.
It's not, it's.
It's a theory that this random YouTuber had.
While I was reading it, my brain's eyes were opening.
And I was like, oh my, because I didn't understand how it all worked.
I was like, what is the benefit of encouraging children to be gender confused?
Well, how does that benefit society?
It's like, well, because then the state basically owns your kid's mind instead of the parents.
And the state has one agenda and they know it's just like Justin Trudeau said about China.
Their basic dictatorship allows them to make all these decisions quickly and implement things quickly.
So it's like when the state owns the minds of all the children and they say, oh, we're not doing this.
Guys, we're not eating meat anymore.
Yeah.
That's another thing.
We need to talk about another show.
Oh, my God.
They're easier to control.
So I think maybe we should just talk about some next steps, what parents should do, what people should do.
I mean, I don't know.
I think, I actually do think it's just to boycott Disney at this point, unfortunately.
Cancel those subscriptions, guys.
I think watch The Simpsons elsewhere.
Yeah, I think that's one thing.
I think homeschool your kids if you can.
I think if you can't, pay attention to your child's life.
Ask them questions when they come home from school.
Look at their homework.
Stay in touch with their teachers.
Yeah, do a little like, what did you learn at school today?
I think that's really.
The homework thing is interesting too, because they might be like, well, I don't know.
I know someone who came with a gender-neutral polar bear for their French homework or something, because those two things make sense.
Yeah, it was like a drawing, and it was like for French homework or something for steaks.
Yeah, because that, because in French, yeah.
I mean, the thing is, with French specifically, gender is extremely important because it's how it just turns, like you conjugate the verb, whatever.
Yeah, good luck with that, you guys.
But yeah, I think just pay attention to your kid.
I think bring them to church.
Yeah.
You know, read the Bible with them, pray with them.
Just pray for wisdom for them and you, okay?
Like, these are dark times.
I do think this is a spiritual battle.
You don't look at celebrities and even like people like us.
Like, you shouldn't even listen to us, really.
No, you should just be talking to your kid.
No, it's true.
No, you're right.
Like, what do I know?
I'm just here.
We're coming up with theories and we're trying to open people's minds so that they can discuss these things.
But like, go home and talk to your family and have those conversations, look in each other's eyes, and like don't let them just go from school to the internet, to school to the internet because they will be messed up.
They will be messed up.
Mushed up.
Yeah.
So I think we could talk about this for like 100 years.
We will.
We will.
Sorry, Olivia.
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