Pastor Tim Stephens was arrested in Calgary on June 15, 2021, after police stormed his home—bringing riot gear for a peaceful gospel gathering—while his wife Raquel held their newborn and children cried. Denied bail under impossible conditions like Pastor James Coates (35 days in jail), Stephens faced COVID isolation, mirroring treatment of pastors as "scofflaws" despite Alberta’s 115 cases on that date. Critics expose double standards: outdoor parks like Canada’s Wonderland reopened while pastors were jailed for indoor services, and elites like Jason Kenney hosted unchecked gatherings at the "Sky Palace." Police admitted discomfort enforcing unjust rules, yet officers laughed at Stephens’ "offensive" behavior—like shaking hands—while violent criminals roamed free. The episode reveals how unelected bureaucrats weaponize public health orders against faith leaders, not threats, exposing systemic bias and a culture of impunity for those in power. [Automatically generated summary]
You have tuned into the Rebel News live stream on this, a Tuesday, June the 15th, 2021.
I'm David Menzies and my co-host, ah, my co-host, she's a little bit sassy and a whole lot feisty.
She is the she-devil with the sword.
She is the Khaleesi of Northern Alberta.
She is Sheila Gunreed.
How you doing there, Sheila?
I have to turn down the audio before you start screaming my name.
I'm doing great, David.
I hope you had a great weekend.
I hope you had a little time off.
I know you worked just, I mean, religiously all weekend since the beginning of the pandemic.
Every single weekend, you and the rest of the team are out there fighting for freedom and documenting in more instances than not the misdeeds of the police all across the country.
Well, you know what, Sheila?
You are right.
I think since the pandemic, I have had, I've counted them, I think three weekends off.
And I am not complaining.
I would rather be overworked than underworked.
My goodness gracious during this last year and a half, the misery I have seen out there in terms of people losing their jobs.
I mean, even if you're getting the CERB, just the idea of staying at home, trying to while away the time, when I go down Young Street and other areas of the city, Sheila, the closed businesses that are never coming back, it breaks my heart because that was somebody's dream and they were working.
And I am talking about businesses, Sheila.
This is very important.
This wasn't some crazy startup that never had a hope in Hades that the business plan was doomed from the start.
These are businesses like the Pickle Barrel Grand.
They were going to celebrate in February their 40th anniversary, four decades in the restaurant business.
That's incredible.
Gone.
And to think just a year before 2020, 2019, when the Raptors were going all the way to the finals, you'd see people overflowing outside the restaurant, outside the patio, just to get a glimpse of the screen.
Wow, just in the space of a year, how much everything has changed.
So if there is news, and it tends to be, Sheila, that the news is on the weekends.
That's when the anti-lockdown protests happen.
That's when the illegal church services happen.
And while the mainstream media would rather sit that one out and pretend it's not happening, and that's what they've been doing.
They have been missing so much, so much real news.
Well, we go out there.
So I would gladly give up any kind of R ⁇ R to bring the news to our folks.
And I'm very grateful to be in this job, 100%.
Yeah, if they're not completely ignoring the news, they're spinning it in such a way that makes you sick.
You know, it gives you vertigo and nausea because they're just spinning so hard.
Like when they call pastors who are defying the lockdown in obedience to God, they'll call them scoff laws.
Like they're shoplifters or something.
I mean, it's just so ridiculous.
And, you know, they don't like us in the mainstream media, and that's fine.
Oftentimes, the feeling is mutual.
But more often than not, I care so little about what they're doing because I'm too busy actually doing the news that I don't pay attention to a lot of it.
And I don't take their criticism of me personally because I feel like a lot of it is jealousy.
We are pretty free to talk about whatever we want to talk about here at Rebel News and fight for the causes that matter to us and for them.
Even I think the ones that are more right-leaning and more freedom-oriented, they have to go through assignment editors who are completely fundamentally in favor of the lockdowns and business closures and arresting pastors and all those sorts of things.
So that was a long-winded way of saying, as long as they remain terrible, you and I will have job security for as long as we want.
Oh, I sure hope so, Sheila.
And one thing you said there that I want to pick up on, the jealousy part of it, I've heard our beloved boss Ezra Levant say that too: that he thinks part of the reason why we get that resentment is our freedom, our freedom to report, our freedom to get the other side of the story.
Something that the mainstream media used to do before it became the Praetorian guard of the government and the bureaucracy in so many cases.
And I think there are people who just look upon what we're doing, the stories that we're breaking, the kind of coverage we're producing, and they're saying, you know, I know about this story, but I've got handcuffs on.
My higher-ups won't let me report this.
That's how it works these days, folks, in the news business.
Make no mistake about it.
It's a chain of command.
And sometimes the reporters you see on the floor, they're just getting messages in their earpiece of how to deliver the narrative.
Streaming On Censorship Platform00:06:01
Yeah.
And I feel kind of bad for some of the older journalists who they went through journalism school, if they did it all, through a time when it wasn't so social justice-oriented.
They were, you know, they went through journalism school when the idea of journalism was to hold politicians and powerful people accountable and to speak the truth and to speak truth to power.
And now it's completely the opposite.
What they seem to do is they hold the people and the public and the little guy to account on behalf of the politicians.
How many stories do we see about Justin Trudeau or some powerful women in politics getting mean tweets?
You know, you're and chasing down grandmas who sent them.
Who cares?
Who cares?
Yeah, you're so right, Sheila.
I think the slogan of the Toronto Star for decades was, we're here to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.
And that seems to have gone a complete role reversal because the comfortable are, well, they're the people in government cutting checks for the Toronto Star and their other brethren.
And Ezra made another great point, too, that surely makes Justin Trudeau smile.
He can barely contain his smile when he's talking about the trained seals in the mainstream media.
And that is for $595 million, which, in the grand scheme of things, in terms of the Silicon Valley tech giants and whatnot, Sheila, is really chump change.
He bought them off.
He bought off the newspapers for just over half a billion dollars.
Oh, wow.
It talked about the deal of the century.
Yeah, they went cheap, didn't they?
In a country of, you know, approaching 40 million, we think of ourselves as a modern grown-up country, and yet our entire news media could be bought off for a little over half a billion dollars.
Wow.
Yeah.
And of course, they want more.
And they are now advertising front page, you know, they're using the front pages of their newspapers.
I'm talking about the post-media chain here, which is the biggest, with those bizarre letters, Sheila.
Have you seen them?
They're addressed to Justin Trudeau.
It's half begging and half admonishment.
Oh, you said you were going to give us more.
It's like the media, it's this Oliver Twist collective with their empty porridge bowl up to the Liberal Party asking for more money.
It's like they have no shame.
You stole the words right out of my mouth.
I was going to say Oliver Twist, except entitled.
You know, like they, they're begging, but they also feel entitled and they're offended because Justin Trudeau hasn't given them enough of somebody else's money who wasn't willing to pay for them in the first place.
Nobody is buying your garbage.
Nobody.
And so instead of doing something to fix the reason nobody's buying your garbage, you're making Justin Trudeau give money from the people who refuse to buy your product.
You know, you're so right, Sheila.
It's an entitled Oliver Twist.
You'd have to change the phrase to read, please, sir, I want more caviar.
Yeah.
Speaking of other people's money and taking money from Justin Trudeau, we'll never do that.
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That'd be great because we've got a lot of work to do and a lot of stories to tell.
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And they don't allow for super chats anymore.
But we are on YouTube still, kind of for spite, but kind of so that people can find us there.
And we don't want to abandon the nearly 1.5 million subscribers that we have there right now.
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It's a great way to support us and support these up-and-coming platforms who apparently care deeply about free speech and not about your politics.
What a concept, A Sheila.
And, you know, without further ado, why don't we go to the top story, I think?
And I got to say, Sheila, and maybe this is a preamble warning.
Some of this content I found disturbing.
Gathering Under Arrest00:15:41
I think when you see children crying as their father is taken away in a police cruiser, not for any kind of real crime like assault or murder or rape or what have you,
but for preaching the gospel, man, I don't know what these Calgary police are made of that they can carry out this little g-head when they go about arresting preachers, but of course, turn a blind eye to the elite politicians at the, what's it called, the Sky Palace?
You know, wow, what a fitting name, eh?
A palace up in the sky.
Does it get any more visual than that?
In any event, folks, like I said, it's a little cringy and disturbing when you see this video.
And thankfully, our man Adam was on the scene to record it because you're not going to see it on any of the other mainstream news platforms as Sheila and I discussed before.
So here is the latest chapter in the saga of Pastor Tim.
Rebel News and I'm outside of the home of Pastor Tim Stevens.
Pastor Tim was once again taken into custody.
Numerous police vehicles arrived and put him in a car, taking him away from his families.
It was an extremely emotional and harrowing ordeal.
And we were there to capture it as it happened.
I'm going to let you go now to the footage of his arrest.
Served?
A gathering June the 6th.
Yep.
Okay.
So that's where you're under arrest for.
For breaking that.
For disobeying that order.
Can you tell me how that order actually applies to me?
You were served with it.
And then there was a gathering.
One of them basically says there's a gathering.
But the order listed Chris Scott and those who worked with him.
And I have no association with the Whistle Stock Cafe or anybody who works with them.
Do you have the order with you?
But it's anybody.
I don't have the actual order with me.
Okay.
Okay.
So the investigators that dealt with it have done that.
And then I have the order that's basically on just on our CAD, so I don't actually have a print on it.
And I just have the affidavit that you were actually serving.
So these are the laws that everyone in Canada basically has agreed to abide by.
Jason Kenyan can have his dinner up in the Sky Palace.
And no one has come to his house to take him to jail.
You know what?
It's like I said, it has nothing to do with that.
I'm dealing with this, right?
And every police officer I talk to, they all say the same thing.
I'm just doing my job, just doing my job.
Okay, but every single one of us, like me included, my parents go to church.
They've been doing church online.
We've been basically been abiding by all these orders.
We don't like them, right?
But right now it's the laws that they basically laid out before us.
If we don't like them, we have a system where we can vote, we can change governments, we can do those things.
But right now, this is the government that we have.
And we're hired to uphold those laws that basically the general public, the majority of people, have voted.
Can I ask you what's the highest law of our land?
What is the highest law of our land?
Yeah.
What's the highest law of our land by which all the laws are tested?
It's our charter of rights and freedoms.
And under that law, all citizens of Canada are granted religious freedom, freedom of association, and expression.
And do we not still have that?
Like, have they told you you can't not pre-authorize it?
I can't assemble.
I can't have people in my home.
I can't express myself.
I have to wear mass or not.
So all those rights are being suppressed.
And we've tried to bring court action.
And it still hasn't been heard in court.
15 months later.
Okay.
And it's not until the end of September.
And are these not unprecedented times when it comes to certain things?
No, it's not.
You may not believe it, right?
Well, I do believe it, but if you look out there, it's not like a black plague or anything like that.
It doesn't seem like it.
It doesn't.
But maybe the steps that we have taken have not overwhelmed the healthcare system.
I don't know, right?
But like I said, I'm not the person who wrote the law.
I know.
You know?
I know.
It's incredible.
It's incredible.
You know, they can have their gathering in the Sky Palace, and yet a pastor who gathers for church outside is being arrested.
Yeah, yeah, because the rules certainly don't apply to everyone equally, and they're not enforced to everyone equally.
Like, why is it only why is it pastors that keep getting arrested for this?
And if you have parents who go to church, or you understand that our Lord Jesus Christ actually commands us to gather and to meet, and he also told us wherever two or three are gathered, there he is in the midst of us, so we don't need a huge gathering.
If you want to talk about that, but we're not talking about that.
Right now, we're just doing our job, okay?
So, and if you hadn't basically broken the order or the rules that are set out right now, I wouldn't be here, right?
Do I want to be here?
No, right?
Yes, and when and when laws are unjust, then it's a covenant upon those who are righteous.
We stand up and say no, we have one of the best systems in the world that we can vote.
You're putting pastors and changed laws, like that's not the best system.
Who's there right now?
It's already putting pastor in jail.
You are right now.
I mean, I'm doing my job by taking him, but then being sworn enough to uphold the consequences of the Constitution.
I arrest people for theft, I arrest people whenever they break the laws.
Yes, and this is a rule and the law in the land right now.
So, I have to arrest your husband.
When I arrest someone for theft, I don't want to arrest that person and deal with them.
But if they break a law that I'm basically sworn to uphold, I have to arrest him.
So, whatever person that's ever broken these rules.
No, but I've broken this law.
I've broken rules.
You have to?
Of course, I have.
So, why are you not under threat of arrest right now?
Okay, so this is the same logic we get whenever I pull someone over for speeding.
They're like, Well, that person just sped by.
Why didn't you arrest them?
I can't.
So, right now, I'm dealing with your husband.
Your husband's actions have put me in this position where I am acting what I'm sworn to do.
So, you aren't ever going to be in this position, but you can continue to break them as well.
I don't understand your changes, but so the public health orders.
But do you understand why I'm here?
I do.
Okay, so and my do you know what my job is?
Yes, yes.
So, am I doing my job?
No one's questioning that you're not doing your job.
I know, so that's what I'm doing.
So, your husband has agreed to come with us.
He knows that he's basically the ethics of arresting someone for breaking public health guidelines.
You admit that you also break them.
No, you asked if I asked if I broke it.
You just asked us if I've broken other rules and laws.
Of course, I have.
Every single one of you, not one of us is perfect.
Again, do you know somebody who's perfect?
The Lord Jesus.
Yes, is he here right now?
No, no, and we're all supposed to basically attribute and go by him.
And like, even God said, you know, give on to Caesar what is Caesar's, right?
So, we're not getting this philosophy.
And the gathering of the church is not Caesar's.
No, it's not, right?
But again, a lot of other people are suffering, and a lot of other people are abiding by the rules by meeting online, doing everything, meeting in smaller groups if they're allowed to, right?
You can bring up the premier if you want, right?
And that's something he's going to have to answer to too.
Whether the people who vote for him are going to say, get out of here, but that's our system.
We want a civil system because I'm not you're got orders to do it, and you're right.
You guys, honestly, the sooner that we go, the sooner you get back to your family.
Well, no, he's already with us.
Yeah.
Yes, but he has to go.
Thank you, church to this time.
Give yourself glory.
We pray this all in Jesus' name.
Amen.
Don't be angry.
No anger.
Before I put you in the back, just put your hands on the side of the car.
So, nothing sharp, nothing basically at all in your pockets, nothing we need to worry about.
No?
Bye daddy!
We're not going to discuss it.
Did you guys say that you're pursuing the Senate?
I don't know.
And I can't speak to that, right?
Because I'm unfamiliar with what you're talking about, you guys.
When they talk about where you're coming about, they've punted and they just say, Did you break the order?
Now go to jail.
But they won't even discuss the validity of any of those orders.
And when you say that there's an opportunity to go through the legal means, we're 15-16 months into this, and they have yet to provide anything in court.
That's not like a delayed access to justice is not just at all.
Yeah, it's frustrating.
Absolutely, it's frustrating.
It's frustrating for us too, right?
But we have a job.
You have a means to speak about those kinds of frustrations.
Same as you.
If my personal beliefs were the same as yours, then I would absolutely speak on that behalf.
No other jurisdiction is imprisoning pastors for breaking health orders.
I'm not going to speak to that, okay?
In Canada, it's only I would say continue the course that you're continuing on.
Push further ahead, push harder if you need to.
And that's all the charter can we push here.
I don't, I don't know how far we've gone.
I have no reason to arrest you, right?
So I'm going to leave it at that, okay?
But I say just stay your course.
If you feel that strongly about it, just stay the course, okay?
Contact your lawyers after we leave today.
Tell them what happened.
Like these guys are taping, right?
You know, we're taping, they're taping.
You have your supporters.
Follow through on what you can and what you feel is right, okay?
Do you feel this is like Can you guys share maybe why Jason Kenny gets a free pass and you're arresting pastors across the province?
Any comment, any emotion for this family whatsoever?
No, you're just going to drive off just like that.
Is this why you became a police officer?
Also, I did not.
Have a good day.
Yay!
Don't block the car though, so I don't get caught.
Bye-bye guys, okay?
Okay?
Goodbye.
Not too close, not too close.
Hey, guys, step back, please.
I'm going to actually build this church.
That puts a lump in my throat, Sheila.
I mean, there's so much to unpack there.
You know, I couldn't help but notice on those Calgary police SUVs, I guess it's the slogan of the Calgary police: vigilance, courage, pride.
I don't know if that's the traditional definition of pride or they've just got pride there for Pride, Gay Pride Month right now.
Who knows?
But, you know, I'll tell you, Ezra had a fantastic monologue yesterday where he named Staff Sergeant McClain the worst cop in Canada.
He's with the Peterborough Police Service in regard to my personal situation.
Maybe Ezra jumped the gun.
Maybe I don't have the name of that, you know, the bald police officer, the guy in charge.
Let's just call him Sergeant Stedanko, for lack of a better term.
But the condescending way he was treating this pastor.
And why don't we get an answer for the pastor asset?
Adam asked it.
Why does the pastor get hauled away?
I guess they spared him handcuffs on like Maxime Bernier in Manitoba on Friday.
So thank goodness for little miracles.
But why don't we get an answer to that question?
Why him and why not the head honcho and charge Jason Kenney and all his elite pals at the Sky Palace?
Why is that?
Oops, sorry, guys.
We'll try harder next time.
That is just shameful.
And again, Sheila, it comes down to back when Jason Kenney was an MP and he was all about religious freedom the world over.
And look what's happening in Alberta.
Could you ever have dreamed this?
David, I hope those images of Tim's kids reaching into that cop car to hold their dad's hand.
I hope that that is a campaign ad against Jason Kenney.
I personally, after, I mean, I'm furious.
I had to stop several times when I was watching the video last night just to get through it.
I hope that that is put on a billboard truck and it is driven around every single Jason Kenney campaign event forever.
I hope those images hang like a millstone around his neck forever.
I wonder if Jason Kenney can hear the shrieking and sobbing of Tim and Raquel's frightened children all the way up there in Sky Palace.
And boy, you know, I get it.
I get it now.
You've got to put down a lot of Jameson to be able to sleep at night when you're the man responsible for what happened to Tim yesterday.
Coburg's Underground Congregations00:15:43
And did you preface Tim with those cops?
He's praying with his children.
He's telling them, don't be angry.
Don't be angry.
And those cops are blaming Tim for what they have to go through, how hard it is on them.
The woman cop says, I know this is frustrating.
for me too.
You're telling this to Raquel Stevens as she's holding her brand new baby, crying kids all around.
You're taking her husband away for what?
What's his crime?
Holding church.
And the other cop says, your husband's actions, I wrote it down as he was saying it.
Your husband's actions have put me in this position.
Yes.
That man is the worst cop in Canada.
And as he was fighting with Tim over scripture, by the way, I don't want a cop that's going to cite scripture.
I really don't.
Because the render onto Caesar line you're referring to here.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
Let's go back a little because it reminded me of something from the merchant of Venice.
Because that phrase, and I wanted, I brought it up as he was saying it because I want to get it right.
The devil can cite scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness is like a villain with a smiling cheek, a goodly apple rotten at the heart.
Oh, what a goodly outside falsehood hath.
And that's what it reminded me of.
You know, when he is saying to Tim Stevens, a pastor, and again, this brings me back to do whatever you want to do in your church.
I don't care.
And I don't want the state to care.
And I especially don't want officers of the state telling somebody else what they should be doing in their church, which is exactly what this cop did when he quoted Mark 12, 17.
Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.
That's the preface there.
That which is Caesar's.
The next part of that is render unto God that which is God's.
As in the church belongs to God and not the state.
Do what you need to do for the state, but do not suck things into the state that don't belong to the state.
I cannot get over the pathetic attempts of that Roman soldier, I'll call him, to twist scripture.
There are those of us who believe in separation of church and state, like me, as in, I don't want the church molested by the state.
And I don't want to hear a weak theological argument from a cop who doesn't have any comprehension of what's going on.
And finally, for context, do you know how many new coronavirus cases were diagnosed in Alberta yesterday?
115.
In a province of 4.5 million, Tim Stevens is not only being arrested under an order that doesn't apply to him at all, but secondarily for a health emergency that no longer exists.
Shame, shame on everybody involved here.
It's one of the worst things I've ever seen.
It is shameful.
And two things, Sheila.
One is the mixed messages.
Those cops were saying, well, if you hadn't put us in this predicament, we wouldn't be here.
We wouldn't be arresting you.
And then the female officer says to Tim Stevens' wife, stay the course.
Basically, fight for what you believe in.
But wait a minute, fighting for what I believe in brings you to my front door and gets my husband hauled away in a police SUV.
What kind of garbage is that?
Stay the course.
She's basically saying, yeah, break the law and we'll be back here again.
And the other thing, the law, this law that they are saying we are so beholden to uphold.
And, you know, and if you don't like it, well, you know, there's a change of government at a future date, which in Alberta's case is two years, I believe, before there's another provincial election.
Wait a minute.
As Ezra has pointed out on several occasions too, Sheila, a lot of this so-called law has basically been written by unaccountable, unelected health bureaucrats.
And I refuse to call them top doctors like the mainstream media does.
Most of these cats haven't practiced medicine in decades if they practice it at all.
So this, these.
It's not so much law, it's rules that are being put in place by people who are never elected, who are never meant to write our laws.
And I'm telling you, Sheila, whenever this pandemic ends, there's going to be a day of reckoning.
We have to ensure we never end up in this situation again where the Cruella de Villas of the world become drunk with power and destroy people's lives without any kind of empathy whatsoever.
Anyways, that's what I have to say.
Did you hear Raquel Stevens, though?
Did you hear her push back on that cop who said, well, stand up for what you believe in?
And Raquel goes, and then what?
You going to take me?
Are you going to take the kids next?
Like, that's what Tim's going to jail for.
It's not bad enough that they seized his church property.
They've grace-lifed them completely.
They seized the church property.
Now they've taken Tim.
And from what I understand, Tim had a bail hearing last night.
And just like Pastor Coates, he cannot abide by those bill conditions.
So he's going to stay in jail.
And Raquel's got all those kids to take care of by herself.
And those kids are traumatized, traumatized.
They've seen their dad arrested by the state twice.
It's the worst thing I've seen in this pandemic.
The absolute worst is the trauma that those kids and that family has been put through twice at the hands of Jason Kenney and the police in Calgary.
And one other thing I want to say, Sheila, is that, you know, Pastor Tim Stevens, what a class act.
I mean, he could have been, you know, well, it wouldn't be in him to drop an F-bomb.
But I mean, as a viewer, you get so enraged watching this.
And I don't want to say what I was muttering while I was watching it, but he is calm, cool, collected.
He's all about love.
He's hugging his family.
He's not even in the face of these police officers.
And he has every right to be.
I just want to say what an incredible class act.
And I think, I hope your wish comes true.
I hope when the election comes along, those images resurface to remind people that Premier Kenny was behind this.
Yeah.
I mean, I should be taking Pastor Tim's advice when he said, don't be angry because I'm furious.
Like my blood is boiling.
But I guess it's better to be mad than to be just a wreck because of what I've just witnessed the state put that family through.
And who knows when Tim's going to get out?
Who knows when they end it?
I mean, we're moving into stage three here in Alberta, where there's going to be no masks and no restrictions.
You're going to keep this guy in jail for what?
Till when?
After stage three?
Till we're at COVID-0?
What is it going to take for Tim to be allowed to do what he is called by God to do?
And again, no coronaviruses, no cases linked to his church, not a one.
So where?
Where do the two things meet?
How does the enforcement of these regulations meet the threat that Tim is putting the community in?
And again, the Sky Palace incident, we have video footage of that.
We have the proof in the pudding.
What, that's a nothing burger?
I mean, it's now become a joke that Premier Kenny is leading by example.
And as to the jail matter, Sheila, was it 35 days that Pastor Coates spent in that horrific Edmonton Maximum Security Penitentiary?
Is this what Pastor Tim is in for too?
That is just shameful.
Well, and he'll likely be in COVID isolation when he comes in.
So he'll, in effect, solitary confinement.
Again, it's my understanding that he won't accept the conditions of his bail.
So he'll just remain in there until somebody figures out what to do with him, just like with Pastor Coates.
And his congregation is driven completely underground.
So we have at least two underground congregations here in Alberta, four pastors arrested, and two of them have served some pretty serious jail time.
I mean, it sounds like Tim's going to be in there for a long time.
So, I mean, what an absolute disgrace.
What an absolute disgrace that this is the province of Strong and Free.
This is led by Jason Kenney, the premier who was the advocate for religious freedom around the world.
How does he justify what he did to that family last night?
Because I don't care if it was the Calgary cops and the worst cop in Canada, that bald cop, the absolute worst.
I don't care if it's them.
They're being enabled by the decision makers.
And if Jason Kenney isn't making the decisions, he's allowing somebody else to make the decisions.
Our unelected health bureaucrats, the buck stops with him.
What happened to Tim Stevens' family stops with Jason Kenney?
And he should be absolutely ashamed of himself.
I don't know how he sleeps at night.
I have no idea.
And on that note, too, Sheila, those cops, when they go home to their families and they take off their uniforms and they take their weapons away and just become Joe and Jane citizen, do they go, you know what, honey, I helped save the province from more COVID-positive cases.
I got that guy, that Pastor Tim, out of his home.
He's now in the cooler.
Or do they say to their family, I can't believe what I have to do as a cop.
You know, I signed up to put away the bad guys, and now look what they're making me do.
I would love to be a fly on the wall of those police officers' homes and find out what they really think when the cameras aren't rolling about what they are doing these days, Sheila.
Constable terrible cop in Calgary there, he thinks that he's doing the absolute Lord's work.
I really do.
I think that he thinks that I'm making sure those Christians render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.
I really do.
Like he, he feels like he's the victim here.
Look what your husband is making me do because he broke the law.
Your husband is making me feel this way.
Not my conscience, your husband.
That cop, I don't think he has any sort of moral struggles at all.
I think that he is completely convinced that he's perfectly okay and he's doing the right thing.
I'm not so sure about that female cop.
I think Adam pushed her on that.
And, you know, that's another thing.
Adam was there with this family as it happened.
I mean, it's got to be tough on Adam and Kian too, K2, to have been there to bear witness to all of this.
I mean, Adam's got little kids at home too.
But you don't, Adam usually takes a kind of a hands-off approach with the cops.
And that's, he's sort of following the rules of engagement of the pastors that he's covering, right?
Like they don't want you there fighting with the cops.
Just whatever the cops do, please record it.
You're not the story, right?
But Adam pushed back on that one lady cop, and she admitted that this is not what I signed up to do.
Yeah.
Well, then, why are you doing it?
And you know, Sheila, before we get to the chats on this, Adam and K2 were kind of lucky in a way that this didn't happen in Hamilton or Peterborough because they could have been ticketed or arrested.
Lack of social distancing, not wearing a mask.
There was nothing to laugh about, but if they had laughed, evidently that's offside in Peterborough too.
We'll get to that in a few seconds, folks.
So, in a way, they're lucky.
They certainly had room in those other SUVs parked outs.
By the way, why such a display of force?
They know this isn't a crack den in Calgary that they're going into with illegal handguns.
They know this is a gentle, peace-loving pastor, a true gentleman, and they had to bring that kind of show of force.
What the?
It's intimidation.
It's the same reason they bring the riot squad to Pastor Art.
It's the same reason they took him down like he was a terrorist on the street.
I mean, you look at how they are treating this cop versus the like red carpet rollout they got for Omar Cotter or treating these pastors versus the like red carpet rollout that Omar Cotter gets, right?
Like, same province.
One's a convicted al-Qaeda terrorist, and the other ones just want to be obedient to God.
It's, I mean, I just, I can't get over how bad that cop is.
I, you know, like, yes, the cop who is offended that you chuckled and shook hands and did like normal human things, he's bad.
But I think that this cop in Calgary, and I'm dying to know his name, I hope you're watching, you are the worst cop in Canada, the most revolting, stomach-turning cop in this entire country.
I hope you know that.
And given that you've, according to Sheila Gunn Reed's estimation, you've bumped off Staff Sergeant McClain at the Peterborough Police Service.
Wow, that's saying a mouthful.
Jeez.
Trying to victim blame the father he's snatching away from his family as he's doing it and making himself the victim and citing scripture to justify the arrest of the Christian pastor in front of his family.
I don't know.
I don't know if that can be talked.
And you know, that seems to be a bit of a trend emerging, right?
Our beloved colleague Tamara Ugolini out in Coburg, she had a piece several weeks ago, Sheila.
Remember where the Coburg police service was complaining about the stress of handing out all these anti-lockdown tickets.
And I can't remember the name of the Coburg police chief, a tall, bearded individual.
All you remember is his gender pronouns, he, him.
So Chief he, him was saying, oh, look at us.
Look, it's so tough.
It's so hard.
Can you believe it, Sheila?
Yeah, I can.
I can believe that a cop like that would be concerned about how hard it is on his members to go around arresting law-abiding people.
And again, turning the cops into the victims here.
I'm pro-cop, but boy, these bad apples, they really can turn the tide for an entire police service.
And it's going to take a very long time for police services to repair the reputations that they have allowed to be damaged so greatly by the bad apples in their midst.
100%, Sheila.
And the worst thing about it is it doesn't have to be this way.
There is no health crisis by having church services.
No Cash Bail Reform00:13:47
There is no science behind this.
Please, Sparrows, we're just following the rules while you give a pass again to Premier Kenny and his friends for up in the sky palace whining and dining.
So, you know, please.
But anyways, I think we have some chats, do we not?
Yes.
By the way, speaking of another politician that deserves those images of Tim Stevens crying children on a Jumbotron truck driving around his constituency office, Tyler Chandra, the health minister.
You're in charge of AHS.
You did nothing.
Even if they went rogue, sure they did.
But even if you want to claim that, that they went rogue and got this order that now they're using to go around and lock up pastors.
You're in charge of AHS.
Have them go before a judge and have that order tossed out.
But you haven't.
You've seen pastor after pastor get arrested and you're perfectly fine with it.
We need to put this on a jumbotron and drive it around Chandra's office.
If he's going to the grocery store, I want a jumbotron following him like a jaguar hunts a gazelle so that those images follow him forever.
I love that idea, Sheila.
And you got the clout around here to make it happen.
I can say that.
Try not to abuse it.
Anyways, let's, for me being absolutely off the rev limiter, let's get to some of these chats.
Rumble from On the Bit like David's tie today.
Is that even David's tie?
Sometimes he takes Ezra's.
That's one of mine.
And it's a cheapo one, too.
So there you go.
It looks better because you're frugal.
We've got a super huge shout from Annalisa.
Hi, Annalisa.
She says this is heartbreaking.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
A rumble chat from Riccadio, I think is how I say that.
Oh, that explains why I'm having trouble.
You'd think if you go to arrest someone, you would have the warrant and documentation to back up the claim on your person.
Yeah, apparently cops could just go to your house without a warrant and stuff you in a cop car in front of your family.
Is that how it works?
Because it's cops, like they, the Stevens family said, where's the warrant?
Oh, we don't have it, but you know about it.
Oh, go get it then.
Go get it.
That's very, I missed out on that, shamefully.
This was potentially, I think, Sheila, another Pastor Arthur Povlowski.
Get out, get out video.
I don't think that's Pastor Tim's style, but wow, did that ever go viral when Arthur used it?
Yeah, you know, and that's another thing, too.
People will say, oh, I don't like Pastor Art's style, how he talks to the cops, use of the words Gestapo.
Look, he's Polish.
I'll give him a pass.
Right?
Like, fine.
Or they don't like his views on certain things.
None of that matters because Tim Stevens could not be more bookish.
He couldn't be more bookish and gentle.
He's like a dove.
And that didn't spare him from the state.
So it's got nothing to do with the style or personalities of the pastors.
We're arresting all kinds of different pastors in this province.
It doesn't even matter.
They're all different denominations.
It doesn't matter.
Their only crime is being obedient to God over the state.
We've got a Odyssey chat, hyper chat, that's what they're called, from Roxanne.
We have one of the best systems in the world.
Had we had the best system in the world.
Now it's one of the worst.
We're still in one of the hardest lockdowns on the face of the earth, especially guys in Ontario.
Oh, yeah.
I am.
You know, it's funny.
I saw an announcement, I think it was yesterday, and I drive by this amusement park so often, Sheila, Canada's Wonderland.
I guess it's Canada's largest amusement park.
It's still mothballed, and they were announcing their plan to reopen for July 7th.
And you've got to book your day and you've got to book your time.
And worst of all, even though it's a totally outdoor amusement park, all the rides are outdoors, folks.
Yeah.
You got to wear your mask.
And I thought, you call that park an amusement park?
What's the opposite of amusement, Sheila?
I'm staying clear of this place.
I mean, are they crazy making people in the hot July southern Ontario humid sun stand in line for, I don't know, up to two hours to get on the leviathan, masked up.
And if you don't wear your mask, you're frog marched out of that park.
Some park.
Yeah, big fun.
And you've got to pay like an enormous amount of money to do it.
Oh, boy.
Super U shout from Donald Best: policing will never recover from 18 months of civil rights violations and brutality against its citizens.
Yeah, we've created a generation of people who loathe cops.
And Donald knows what he's talking about, too, folks.
Another super you shout from Donald Best, reporter, is this why you became a police officer?
No, I did not.
Very telling.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Then again, why are you doing it?
Why are you doing it?
A rumble chat from Nick Monk.
So strange that this is in Alberta.
It used to be the most freedom-loving part of the country.
We still are.
Don't attribute the qualities of our politicians to the qualities of our people.
That's why we're so hard to contain.
And that's why we are going to church and breaking the rules.
And that's why they keep arresting good people like Tim Stevens is because we are so freedom-loving that people like Tim Stevens are willing to go to jail for it.
So while our politicians seem to loathe freedom and the people in this province, the people in this province are still very freedom-loving.
Yeah.
Super you shout from Annalisa.
She's crying again.
Yeah, that's terrible.
It's just a terrible, terrible image, those kids, those crying, shrieking kids.
I mean, just when they're saying bye, daddy, I mean, if how did those cops do that?
How did they do it?
A hyper chat of one library from Binga.
Would the police do this to an Iman?
I'm not sure.
No, because of politics and the mainstream media would scream bloody murder.
This is a disgrace for the police.
I can't say that they wouldn't do it to an Imam.
What I can say is that they are only, only doing this to Christian pastors.
Hyper Chat of One Library from Revelator, Mercenaries at Work, joyful art from the heart.
Everyone should email the video to Jason Kenny.
Yeah.
A hyper chat of five library.
Rebecca Henderson, as someone studying social work, having a parent who is arrested traumatized a child enough for the rest of their life.
Yeah.
And causes irreversible negative health outcomes for the rest of their life, even premature death on the ACE scores.
Shame on Kenny and the police and others who support scumbags like that.
Now, you're saying scumbags.
I'm not.
I'm just reading the super chats.
But it's absolutely despicable what the state has put those kids through twice, twice now.
Your dad's been arrested in front of them.
And Sheila, you know, an interesting point about emailing the video to Jason Kenny.
I wondered, does Jason Kenney, do you think he follows the content on Rebel News?
Or would that be just like too much kryptonite to absorb on an hourly basis?
I hear, I hear things from within the Premier's inner circle.
When we say things that are critical and they hear about it from the public, I hear about it.
Good.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
We've got a rumble chat from Chronic Bud99.
If this story gets covered by the state broadcaster, it will be titled Anti-Masker Pastor Arrested.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Scoff law, pastor arrested.
We've got a rumble from Corey Farmer.
I break the law, but we are not perfect.
Hold on.
I don't steal.
And I think, well, I can do this even though I arrest for it.
Ha ha.
Yeah, that cop is just crazy saying, well, I'm not perfect.
Well, then go straight to jail because that's what you're doing to Tim.
Straight to jail.
Off you go.
And how terrible of you to do that to your fellow police officers to make them have to arrest you?
How awful.
A super you shout from Bishop.
Think of how many criminals were released from prison to make room for decent citizens and pastors.
Well, I can tell you one of those numbers at the remand center in Edmonton, approximately 500 were released over the course of the pandemic, either given community release or release just basically on their own recognizance to save them from the coronavirus outbreak.
And apparently there were a couple, perhaps even three, at the remand center, and that's where they held Pastor James Coates.
So they took Pastor James Coates out of a perfectly healthy congregation and stuffed him into a facility that has had coronavirus outbreaks and where they released other prisoners, violent prisoners, to save them from the coronavirus, apparently in the interest of public health.
So we release violent criminals that broke real laws to make room in the remand center for phony baloney health official laws so that we can get pastors put there.
Yeah, that makes sense to me, Sheila.
Yeah.
And it's because the pastors, according to the government, were putting the community at risk.
So even though in their perfectly healthy communities, they get taken into a place where they could potentially contract the coronavirus and then go back to their perfectly healthy communities after the fact.
Could you imagine being one of the victims of one of those 500 real criminals?
And you said some of them were indeed violent.
And you hear through the grapevine, because I don't even think you're even told as a victim by the authorities that such and such is out.
Can you imagine the feeling of betrayal and fear if you're a vulnerable person that this person is now out on the street and maybe is harboring a major grudge and it's being done in the name of COVID?
Are you kidding me?
Yeah.
And just think for a second, a lot of people, and I only know this because I have cops in my family who are very frustrated by all of this.
There is a thing now that they're doing that's called no cash bail.
And basically, you can get out on bail with no cash.
So anybody can get bail if you're like anything from a violent sex offender is sort of kind of the cutoff, but not always.
You can get out on no cash bail.
So the people who are being remanded, they're not exactly the nice guys because you could pretty well get out on no cash bail.
And, you know, for good cops who are dealing with recidivists, they're like, I just picked this guy up yesterday.
How did he even get bail?
Oh, no cash bail.
They're just revolving doors, but we're keeping pastors.
I didn't know that was a thing, Sheila.
It sounds like de Blasio's New York basically.
And it's making it impossible for good cops to clean up communities, especially like on reserve, where they're arresting the same gang members all the time.
They're just getting no cash bail and back out the door.
No cash bail.
Well, what's the point of having bail then?
Exactly.
Exactly.
You know, it reminds me, and as a child, I was confused.
I'd read Marvel Comics, and in the letters of the editor section, you could, if you found a mistake in the comic book, a continuity error, a name error, you could write in.
And what Mark Stanley, who was running Marvel Comics at the time, what he would always do is if the error checked out, he would send you a no prize.
And for years of my young child life, I was wondering, what does a no prize look like?
I didn't get it.
It meant that, yeah, it's a no, like we acknowledge the error, but you're not getting a prize.
And that seems to be, what did you call it?
Cashless bail?
Yeah, no cash bail.
And like to add insult to injury with the no cash bail, and I hope I'm describing this right.
You can go before a judge, the judge will say, oh, your bail is $50, but no cash.
So it's like, you don't have to pay anything.
You don't have to pay even $50 to get out.
It's no cash.
So like, I know some cops are like, why don't you make it a million?
Like, what does it matter?
You don't have to pay a single thing to make sure that you behave yourself, keep the peace, and be of good behavior, as they say.
What does it matter?
What's the point?
No cash.
You don't even lose your 50 bucks.
We've got a hyper chat of one library from Benga says, victim blaming.
That's gaslighting 101.
Yeah, that cop, he's the victim, can't you see?
Max Bernier's Political Fallout00:05:43
Don't you feel bad for him having to do what he did to Tim Stevens?
Nope.
A hyper chat of five libraries from Rebecca Henderson.
So are you going to vote for Kenny, Sheila?
I would love to move to Alberta from Ontario to vote him out and drive those vans around with the image of what he did to that family.
No one will ever know who I vote for.
And it's so funny because I will get people from the Conservative Party of Canada, like died in the Wall Partisans, blasting me up because they say, Sheila, you support Max Bernier.
And then I'll get people from the PPC saying, Sheila, why don't you support Max Bernier?
And that's when I know I'm in the sweet spot because nobody knows where I fall.
And it's, I like it that way.
I think that's the best way is that you'll never know.
And I'll just be critical of everybody completely honestly.
Well, as we've discussed, Sheila, the only ace I think Jason Kenny is holding is the passage of time.
That in two years, things will be so radically different.
Two years is an eternity in politics.
And maybe a lot of people will forget.
I don't think a lot of people are going to forget.
Maybe some will, depending on the prosperity of the province when we get into 2023.
But this is leaving a real bitter aftertaste in so many Albertans' mouths, I presume.
And as I've always said, he's playing with fire.
You know, he really is in terms of getting back elected again.
I mean, can you imagine?
Can you imagine Rachel Notley 2.0 coming up through the middle?
That's even more fearful than anything else.
Jason Kenny better hope the Stevens family doesn't show up at any of his campaign events.
That's for sure.
Could you imagine all those Stevens kids lined up?
And like Tim isn't the only brother who's in legal jeopardy here.
Trevor, his brother is a pastor in the Edmonton area, and they're open.
So, I mean, he's not the only brother who could go to jail.
We've got a rumble from Flame 232318K at a hockey game, 100 at a church.
Nope.
Yeah.
18K at a hockey game.
100 at a church.
Nope.
Yeah.
That's exactly it.
But one of them is for professional hockey players and elites.
And the elites get special treatment.
They get the Sky Palace and the rest of us get in jail.
We've got a hyper chat of one library from Roxanne.
You guys have updates on Max Bernier's arrest.
David, you might know more about this than me.
You know, no, I don't.
Other than what we've already reported.
And by the way, my take on that Bernier arrest is that Premier Pallister did Maxine Bernier a huge favor in terms of, you know, Maxine Bernier getting airtime, getting press.
If Maxine Bernier had just gone into small town Manitoba and did his shtick, he would come, go, no biggie.
But he was put into the 24 and even 48-hour news cycle.
And the optics, Sheila, of a former MP being arrested and handcuffed.
And I love that line when the RCMP constable said, Do you have any weapons?
And he says, no, other than the words I use.
Wasn't that amazing?
But that image gave, I think, Bernier so much political capital that my words, my ideas, my thoughts that are not hateful at all, they're just contrary to the elected class right now, are so dangerous.
He has to be pulled over, handcuffed, and taken away in a police SUV.
They couldn't, it couldn't have made Bernier's point any more forceful than those images, Sheila.
Well, and if a political dissident being arrested by the state police had said those words in Russia, in Saudi Arabia, in one of the more backwards places of the world,
it would have been something that every single conservative politician in this country would have celebrated and they would have raised the issue in the House of Commons and they would have scolded the liberals for not speaking out and supporting the political dissident who was arrested.
For example, if somebody said it in Hong Kong, there would be absolute support from every single official conservative in this country because it happened in so-called conservative Manitoba and it happened to someone who is a right-wing critic of the conservative.
Everybody's got their mouths shut about arresting political dissidents in Canada.
And boy, boy, oh boy, some of these partisans, they aren't, they aren't actual conservatives because they don't think about what they're saying.
They're saying stuff like, well, he just should have followed the rules.
And we don't need him coming into our province and breaking health rules and this and that.
And it's like, even if you think that way, he's there for a political reason.
And your values about free speech and opposition to the government, they should not be contingent on whether or not you like the message from the guy saying it.
Because then that's not free speech.
It's just one state partisanism.
Banana Republic Talk00:01:59
Yeah, you're so right, Sheila.
This is banana republic kind of stuff.
This is what happens.
Course, you know, I'm in a dilemma because I'm thinking we can't grow bananas in Canada.
So maybe we should call ourselves a maple syrup republic for northern countries that act like banana republics do.
Yeah, we're a maple syrup republic.
Yeah.
We've got one more hyper chat and then, oh, I should clarify.
Justin advises that we have two interviews coming out with Bernier.
And one is from Ezra, and that's in English, and a French one from Alexis.
Oh, great.
Or Alexa.
Alexa, Justin, Alexa.
I thought, well, Ezra says Alexis, you know, because, you know, the other day he said to me, Sheila, he took me aside.
He says, what do you think of that new Alexis?
And I said, well, you know, Ezra, I'm more partial to BMW and Mercedes.
Oh, and then I realized we weren't talking cars.
Yeah.
It's time to go.
We've got to finish up this one last hyper chat from Agatha.
She says, Rebel News, please start a billboard campaign.
Okay, I am going to broach that subject at our afternoon meeting today because I think there's things to be done to shame these people.
What they did to this family should not easily be forgotten.
And that's it.
We're all caught up, I think.
Well, fantastic.
Well, we had a whole sheet again of topics, folks, that we never got to, but this was so important and it was so heart-wrenching as well.
In any event, thank you so much for tuning in.
Thank you to Justin.
Thank you to all the people putting in those chats, which have some kind of monotation attached to them.
And Sheila and I will see you back in this space at this time on Thursday.