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May 11, 2021 - Rebel News
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Why is Canada the only country jailing Christian pastors?

Ezra Levant examines Canada’s unprecedented jailing of pastors like Arthur Pavlovsky (Calgary, May 10th SWAT raid) and James Coates (35-day Edmonton detention without warrant), both under Public Health Act section 73.1, despite no violence or weapons. Chris Scott (Whistle Stop diner) faced arrest for defying five-person gathering rules via secret court orders, while rural Alberta’s Ty Northcott and others received summonses for protest rallies—enforcement absent in the UK or Iran. Alberta’s Dina Hinshaw and urban police overreach clash with conservative MLAs’ base, risking UCP support amid claims of authoritarianism. Rebel News’ Democracy Fund backs legal fights, but Levant criticizes mainstream silence on these politically charged detentions. [Automatically generated summary]

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Why Are We Arresting Pastors? 00:07:56
Hello, my rebels.
I've got a question for you.
Why is only Canada arresting Christian pastors?
Like, there's lockdowns in almost every country.
Why are we the only ones arresting Christian pastors?
Not even China is, not even Iran is, nowhere in America, nowhere in Europe.
Why are we doing it?
We did it again on the weekend, Pastor Arthur Pavlovsky.
Why?
I'll try and answer that in today's podcast.
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A SWAT team-style raid.
You think he was El Chapo or Pablo Escobar, the way they took him down in the middle of a highway, cars whizzing by, just unbelievable.
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All right, here's today's podcast.
Tonight, why is Canada the only country jailing Christian pastors?
It's May 10th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
The only thing I have to say is government government is because it's my bloody right to do so.
I've known Pastor Arthur Pavlovsky for years.
I got to know him when I was at Sun News.
We did stories on him.
And at Rebel News, he became our very first client in our Fight the Fines project.
More than a year ago, it was still snowing in April in Calgary.
He was out feeding food to the hungry homeless.
And police said that was an illegal gathering.
Remember this?
This is not events.
This is not your picnic in a neighborhood for the fun of him.
We are providing necessities of life to those that you and your bosses refuse to provide.
You got all kinds of events.
I've been right to Africana.
And yet, Calvin's finest are not bothering their churches to meet.
This is the hypocrisy of this city.
This is the hypocrisy of our wonderful, fearless leaders.
Where is Nahat Ninshe?
The mayor of this city.
Can you guys hear a respect for social media?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
28 feet.
Stand back.
Or why can threaten you?
Do not tell him not to sit away.
Six feet away for everybody.
That's for everybody.
He was our very first client.
Now we have over 1,200.
He beat that case.
Our first client, our first victory.
And the lawyer was Sarah Miller of the Calgary firm JSS Barristers.
It's been lots of work for Sarah since.
Arthur's received more tickets.
Here's an example.
The difficulty was they didn't give any of these tickets to Arthur and his brother while they were actually handing out food.
They showed up at Arthur's house many days later to hand him just a pile of tickets.
So the tickets are very disconnected from the actual incident.
That's not necessarily bad faith, but another kind of step: we're showing up at your house, we're showing intimidation, we're giving you these tickets.
So, the two things combined really make you think: what is Calgary Police Service doing with Arthur Plowski here?
Sarah's gotten to know Arthur well, probably even better than I know him.
Well, the whole world has been getting to know Pastor Arthur.
Sometimes he's called the Polish pastor because this video went super viral globally.
Please get out.
Get out of this property immediately.
Get out.
Get out of this property immediately.
Out.
I don't want to hear anything out of this property immediately.
I don't want to hear a word.
Out!
Ouch!
Out of this property!
Immediately until you come back with a warrant.
Out!
Ouch!
Ouch!
Out of this property!
Immediately out!
Immediately go out and don't come back.
I don't want to talk to you.
Not a word.
Out of this pro.
Out of this property.
Immediately out.
I don't care what you have to say.
Ouch!
Ouch!
Out of this property, you Nazis!
Out!
Out!
Gestapo is not allowed here.
Immediately, Gestapo is not allowed!
Out!
Do you understand English?
Get out of this property!
Go!
So go!
Go!
And don't come back without the warrant!
Out, Nazi!
Out!
Out!
That's pretty powerful stuff.
Normally, I get a little nervous when people throw around the word Nazi or Gestapo too casually, but as you know, Pastor Arthur Pavlovsky is Polish.
He knows what it's like for his country to be dominated by the Nazis and the Soviets, the communists and the Nazis.
You know that when he says someone is the Gestapo, he's not using it as an insult.
He's using it as a description from his and his family history.
Well, he did it a second time.
No, you can contact us.
You can contact my lawyer.
Okay, my lawyer takes care of this.
I'm not interested to listen to any word you have to say.
I do not cooperate with Gestapo.
I do not talk to the Nazis.
You came in your uniforms like thugs.
That's what you are.
Brown shirts of Adolf Hitler.
You are Nazi Gestapo communist fascists.
I do not cooperate with Nazis.
Talk to my lawyer.
You're not allowed here.
You're not welcomed here.
And I'm not going to cooperate with Gestapo like you, okay?
So is that fair enough for you?
Talk to my lawyer.
I just wanted to explain a little bit about the audience.
I'm not interested.
I'm not interested in talking.
You see, you see, this is what the Gestapo is doing.
You're coming to the place of worship to intimidate and to harass.
So you can make an appointment.
Lady, listen to me.
You can make an appointment.
Another day.
You Gestapo.
Another day.
Not this day.
Not this day.
Not during the church.
You understand?
Make an appointment.
Okay.
So go.
Say electron.
Have a good day.
You are sick.
That's what you are.
Well, the Calgary police and the government of Alberta did not like that.
They did not like that one bit.
I mean, they locked up even the quiet and dovelike pastor in Edmonton, James Coates with Grace Life Church.
Government Overreach Arrests 00:05:28
You see, some give the impression that if we were being persecuted, that only then would it be right for us to gather, which is a strange position, especially since all you need to do is disobey the government, comply with government to avoid persecution.
If you comply with the government, you may never be persecuted.
Now, can you tell us exactly what happened last week?
Because I've seen reports that you were arrested.
I was arrested.
I was arrested and released in the same moment.
And the RCMP has been excellent as they've navigated this.
Obviously, they're under a lot of pressure, I would think, to enforce the health orders that are in place.
But yeah, they've been good.
I was arrested and I even said to them at one point in time, so technically I'm arrested.
And they said, oh, you're arrested.
But I was arrested and released in the same moment.
And so that was for violating the public health order?
Yes, section 73.1 of the Public Health Act.
Yeah.
If they would lock up such a gentleman as him and jail him for 35 days, and of course they seized the Grace Life Church and expropriated it and turned it into an armed garrison.
Of course they're going to go after the firebrand of Calgary, Arthur Pavlovsky.
And so it was that this Saturday, Pastor Arthur held services again.
Look at this quick clip from our cameraman, K2, who was in the church.
Boy, that looks great.
It looks heartwarming, doesn't it?
It looks like a vignette from the before times when we didn't go crazy from the pandemic.
Well, the SWAT team arrived, but they looked at the hundred men, women, and children in the church and they thought, maybe we better not go in there guns blazing.
Look at this.
Get out! Get out! Get out!
Go!
Get out!
Get out of the gun!
Get out!
But the thing is, you don't call up dozens of SWAT team cops, put them on overtime pay, tell them to wear their heavy weapons for nothing.
So after the church, when Pastor Pavlovsky and his brother David got into their car to drive home, the SWAT team, well, they decided to have an El Chapo style, a Pablo Escobar-style raid.
They raided, they swarmed Pastor Arthur as he was driving on the road.
They extracted him from his vehicle.
Take a look.
Can I
ask some questions?
Why did they pull him out of his car and take him into the middle of the road, a very busy road?
Why did they make him kneel?
Why did they need so many cops?
Why didn't they stop traffic?
Cars were whizzing by.
It was an exit lane.
Why were they putting him at risk like that?
Was he so dangerous?
Why did they handcuff him?
Was he violent?
Did he have a weapon?
And then why did they hold him in prison for so very long without letting him talk to lawyers?
Remember, they know his lawyer, Sarah Miller.
They've worked with her many times.
She's beaten them every time.
Maybe that's the answer why they wouldn't let his lawyer, Sarah Miller, talk to her.
Well, finally, this morning, Pastor Arthur had his day in court, and I think it might be a victory, a miracle, I mean, it was a victory, and that's a miracle.
Overreach and Rural Resistance 00:14:44
I'm actually a little bit stunned, and I think so was the government.
How?
How did Pastor James Coates get thrown away for 35 days in the prison?
But Pastor Arthur Pavlovsky get out at his first bail hearing.
How did that happen?
I don't know.
I've got some theories.
Good lawyers.
Sarah's doing a great job.
Crowdfunded by good people.
A government that's maybe overreaching.
A judge that is fair-minded?
Prayer.
I don't know.
I'm surprised.
I think he will be back in jail, though, because I don't think he's going to stop opening up his church.
But why is this only happening in Canada?
Now, I have seen some bad things in other countries.
For example, remember this from Easter weekend in the UK?
Ladies and gentlemen, this gathering is unfortunately unlawful under the coronavirus regulations we have currently.
You are not allowed to meet inside with this many people under law.
At this moment in time, you need to go home.
That is just appalling.
That is outrageous.
That is a disgrace.
But the police apologized and there were no arrests made.
No priest was taken off to the clink.
Why is Canada so gung-ho about jailing Christians and only Christians?
No one of any other faith.
And why is there no one speaking up against this?
No one.
There's no opposition speaking up against this.
In fact, Rachel Notley, the former NDP premier, said it was about time.
Here's her tweet on that.
Where's the media?
Well, here's a freelance photographer who does a lot of work for the CBC.
He was thrilled with the arrest and didn't mind if you knew it.
Where are the civil liberties groups?
They're silent.
Where are, I don't know, the law professors that quiet.
Where are the other churches?
Well, they're either silent or cheering on the cops.
Here's a letter from the Knox United Church that was condemning Grace Life.
If they condemn Grace Life, who are peaceful like Dubs, imagine what they have to say about a lion like Arthur.
Well then who?
Who's going to fight back?
Who cares about civil liberties?
Who says, look, if Costco's open and Walmart's open and the liquor stores are open and marijuana stores are open and NHL teams are open, how about a church?
Well, I guess until sanity returns, I guess it's us.
Stay with us for more from Alberta.
Welcome back.
Well, for various reasons, Rebel News head office is in Toronto, Ontario.
And around that, our office staff has grown.
Ontario is the largest province in terms of population.
It's where the federal capital is.
It's where the country's biggest city is.
You know the reasons.
That said, Alberta is also a laboratory of ideas in this country.
It's a place where conservativism sometimes finds deep roots.
It's also a place where populism bubbles up.
And recently, bizarrely in my mind, it's been a place where freedom has been in the deepest retreat.
The province's motto in Latin means strong and free.
And yet it has the most punitive lockdowns in the country.
And so I'm delighted to report that in the last few weeks, we have increased the size of our Alberta team.
Under the leadership of Sheila Gonread, our chief reporter and our Alberta Bureau Chief, we've added to that a reporter in Edmonton named Daniel Day, working for us on a halftime basis, a reporter in Calgary named Adam Sos, who's just done outstanding work even in the short weeks he's been with us.
And our news recruit, who, coincidentally, happens to be named Keen, Kean Simone.
We call him K2 to distinguish him from Kean Bexti.
So we have a four-person team in Alberta.
And just in the nick of time, the province is overflowing with news.
And now we go to our Alberta Bureau Chief, Sheila Gonreid, who is on the scene in central Alberta with some breaking news.
Sheila, great to see you again.
Hey, Ezra, thanks for having me on the show.
Yeah, I'm here with some breaking news.
I'm actually at the ranch of Ty Northcott and the Northcott family and Northcott Rodeo Inc. because he has just received, he and his wife and the company have received summonses to appear in court to answer to the charge of breaking the Public Health Act for holding their protest rodeo rally.
It would be two weekends ago now in Bowdoin.
So thank you for breaking that news.
You're on the scene.
I know you were at that rodeo.
It certainly felt free.
It felt very Albertan and it felt rural.
Obviously those things, you know, they're self-evident.
But the rural part is interesting because rural Albertans, they're physically spread out.
They're often outdoors, outdoors work in a rodeo and a ranch and a farm and oil rigs, whatnot.
So they're not densely packed urban dwellers living, you know, in stuffy high-rises, working in stuffy skyscrapers.
The public health dynamics of people living in the country is very different from those living in the city.
And yet the decisions in Alberta, and indeed in most Western jurisdictions, are made in capitals.
And some grand public health vizier sends out an order and everyone must follow it regardless of the local circumstance.
That's the first thing that strikes me is the epidemiological differences between rural Alberta and the bunkers where these health experts so-called are in.
The second is the politics.
There's no one more free and independent than a cowboy.
I mean, they are, you know, the idea of a cowboy and the government, that's like oil and water.
So the idea that some city slicker bureaucrat like, I don't know, Dina Hinshaw, the health officer in Alberta, is going to issue some, you know, decree and suddenly a cowboy is not going to ride a horse, that just sounds laughable to me.
Politically, it sounds like a death wish for any conservative party that depends on rural parts.
What do you make of what I've just said, that what you have here is an urban leftist, authoritarian police state ideology being imposed on faraway, rural, independent-minded people.
And if I was a local UCP, United Conservative Party MLA, I would be deeply worried for my future.
I think you're exactly right.
A lot of the dynamic that, and as a lifelong rural person, I feel this deeply every single day, it's very much the same dynamic that Western Canada has with Ottawa, where these far-off people with different issues than us are making these blanket decisions to control our lives when they don't know what it's like where we are.
And we have a different set of values.
And that's the same dynamic at play right now with a bunch of cubicle-dwelling Edmonton decision makers making decisions for cowboys and ranch hands and people who work on drilling rigs.
It just doesn't make any sense.
And that's why Ty Northcott held his rodeo.
It was a rally to show the government that we still think it's fine to do these sorts of things outside.
If you can be in a Walmart, you can go to a rodeo.
And so, you know, you've seen it in Mirror, in Bashaw, in Bowdoin.
The community has come out in full force to support these guys as they stand up to the decision makers in Edmonton.
Their communities support them.
Now, will their MLAs support them?
That remains to be seen.
However, those MLAs a few weeks ago who signed that anti-lockdown letter, I think it's about a dozen and a half UCP MLAs signed a letter basically saying they no longer support these ongoing lockdowns.
Those were largely rural MLAs.
So are we seeing sort of that unraveling of the party back to the old PCs that held on to Edmonton and Calgary and then the wild rose that represented the rural parts of Alberta?
I don't know, but it seems as though the broad coalition of the UCP is starting to come apart at the scene.
Yeah, it's incredible to me.
I mean, the Western Standard magazine, an online publication that actually picked up the reins from the old print magazine that I used to publish more than a decade ago, they published a scoop a week or so ago where they say that Jason Kenney told his caucus MLAs that he wants a new party base, base referring to, you know, the most passionate, the most partisan loyalists.
The UCP base would includes rock-ribbed conservatives, rural people, Calgarians kind of thing.
Their growth area would be downtown fancy pants, Edmontonians, things like that.
So you generally don't do well replacing your base.
You know, I've heard of parties losing, winning with just their base.
I've never heard of parties winning without their base.
And it's so odd because Jason Kenney himself was the one who laboriously combined the progressive conservatives and the Wild Rose Party.
So it's very odd that he would be so cavalier about it, considering it took him years to put it together.
Yeah, it's very weird to hear Jason Kenney say that he wants a new base.
Who's he going to replace them with?
NDPers, guide-in-the-wool NDPers, university students?
I mean, the Liberal Party does not exist in Alberta.
So you have to draw from the NDP well of public sector unionists, students, and academics.
How does Jason Kenney think that he can expand his base to consume those people?
It just doesn't work.
I mean, cowboys, ranchers, rayhands, blue-collar people, rural people, those are the reliable conservative base.
Jason Kenney has so annoyed them that they are protesting against him now.
And in the instance of Chris Scott, they're willing to go to jail to protest him.
I don't see how Jason Kenney hangs on to power without making peace with these people, apologizing to them.
But my concern is that he's running out of runway before the next election to make it right.
Yeah.
You know, I used to work 25 years ago for Preston Manning.
And I listened to him because, of course, his father, Ernest Manning, was the premier of Alberta from 1944 on or 1943, 44, after the death of the social credits founder, Bill Eberhardt.
So Preston and his father, Ernest, lived grassroots populism, even more than ideological conservatism.
It was populism.
And the history of Alberta, Preston Manning always said, was tired parties being replaced with new populist parties from the right, the United Farmers of Alberta, who were then replaced by the Socrats.
And it looked like the progressive conservatives of Alberta were going to be replaced by the Wild Rose.
Jason Kenney came in and did a merger kind of thing.
I have to say, I mean, although Alberta's demographics have changed and there's a lot of newcomers who aren't part of this old mold, there's still, you know, there's still a lot of seats that I don't think Jason Kenney can take for granted.
And if there were a credible alternative, they would absolutely go to it because Alberta does that every generation.
Some provinces would never in a million years create a new party.
I think of Ontario.
They just wouldn't.
But Alberta creates new parties as often as they wash the hair.
Yeah, we do it provincially and federally.
You know, like the Reform Party really grew out of Alberta and then took over the federal PC.
So, I mean, it's something that we have a long history of doing and that we're really good at.
But to say that Alberta's demographics are changing, I think that's true.
But people still choose Alberta for the same reasons people have always chosen Alberta.
The same reason my ancestors chose Alberta and your ancestors chose Alberta.
Come here because it's free, because this is a place where you can be left alone.
You can live your life however you want.
And there's this ethos of hard work and good choices will pay off.
And it has, by and large, for most people.
And so for me, while the demographics have somewhat changed, I don't think the philosophy of Alberta has.
There's a reason you come to Calgary and Bowdoin and Fort Saskatchewan as opposed to Toronto.
That thing remains true.
Well, Sheila, I have one more question for you.
I saw Brian Gene, who was the former Wild Rose leader.
He used to be an MP with Jason Kenney under Stephen Harper.
Then he came to run the Wild Rose.
He had a battle with Jason Kenney for the leadership of this new thing, and he's sort of been nursing his wounds, looking at his wounds for a while.
I saw him make a statement the other day about the party base and about the leftward drift, authoritarian drift.
I haven't been following Brian Gene lately, and sometimes he looks like a little bit of a, I'll take my marbles and go away kind of guy, but maybe he is the right guy to come back, or if not the right guy, a guy.
You can't beat someone with no one.
And maybe Brian Gene wants to get back in the game.
Do you have any info about that other than his one statement that I think you both, you and I both saw?
I don't have any inside information quite yet.
Leadership Review Pressure 00:08:21
However, I do know that the party base, or I guess the old party base before Jason Kenney threw them off the lifeboat, they are saber rattling for a leadership review.
And that sort of has been squashed at the local level by the party itself.
But there's only one way to move forward with this mess that Jason Kenney has created.
And it is a leadership review.
And I don't know if Brian Gene would be willing to throw his hat back in the ring.
But if Jason Kenney truly believes that the majority of the party, faithful, the voting members, the donors, the volunteers, if he believes what he's been doing, especially these last few months, is in line with what they would like to see for him as the leader of the party, then he's got to put it to them to put this to rest and heal the party.
Otherwise, it's going to break apart.
Before we go, you're at Ty Northcott's ranch where he's being served these summonses along with his family and his business.
Can you give us an update on our friend Chris Scott, the proprietor of the Whistle Stop?
We've been calling it a diner, but it's much more than a diner.
It's the only gas station in town.
It's the only general store in town.
It's the community hub and they serve food.
He was arrested.
And again, I find this like a night of the long knives when in the Soviet Union, you know, the dictators would round up all their political opponents all at once.
I say that analogy because the health orders involved here, they don't actually carry a jail term.
So when you're scooping up Arthur Pavlovsky in Calgary and scooping up Chris Scott in Mirror, Alberta, you're using police and handcuffs and jail cells for people who are not actually accused of any crimes.
It's tantamount to, I mean, the dollar amount on their fines is large.
But if it was a parking ticket or an overdue library fine, you know, that's about the same gravity legally as a ticket under these health laws.
It's just that they're $1,500.
So, I mean, I haven't looked at the summonses that have been issued in the last week, but my understanding is that none of them carry with them custodial punishment.
None of them require a jail term.
So to throw a guy in jail preemptively for an alleged offense that doesn't carry with it a jail term seems like political punishment and a political prisoner to me.
What do you know about Chris Scott?
Well, I just checked my phone as we were talking there, and we are in constant communication with his lawyer, Chad Williamson, from Williamson Law, and he said his whole firm is mobilized to try to get Chris out on bail.
And it seems as though that won't happen until tomorrow.
So he spent Saturday night in jail all day Sunday.
Looks like he's going to spend Monday night in jail before they can get a hearing to get him out.
But what they're doing to Pastor Art and to Chris and potentially Glenn Carrot of United We Roll, because he did attend Chris Scott's protest over the weekend, is very similar to what they did to Pastor James Coates, and that it is not the crime of breaking the public health order, if you can call that, that they're going to jail for.
It's for contempt of court, really, because the province on Thursday, in secret, went and got an emergency restraining order against Chris Scott, Glenn Carrot.
Those are the two men named in the order, and Jane Does and John Does.
So that's you, me, everybody, preventing them and us from organizing, participating in, or even promoting what the government calls an illegal public gathering, which is anything more than five people.
And it's the Orwellian term the government is using to describe political protest against the laws the government is bringing down on these people.
Jason Kenney has a restraining order against the charter rights of all Albertans right now.
And that's why Chris Scott is in jail, because he held a protest and the government has a restraining order against his right to do that.
You know what?
I've never heard of such a thing that you get a restraining order against the whole world.
I never heard of that.
It feels like it's an attempt to legislate through a secret court process.
It just feels like an end run around democracy.
And gatherings are a fundamental freedom in Canada.
You're allowed to gather in a Costco.
Why aren't you allowed to gather politically?
I think there's some charter challenges we need to do here.
I just can't believe this is all happening under Jason Kenney's watch.
He used to be so strong a conservative, not just financially, but in every capacity, especially religious freedom, smaller government reigning in authoritarianism.
I am having trouble understanding it.
I've known Jason since I was in college.
I find this confusing, but we must do what we must do.
And that is to fight like hell, to cover journalistically what's happening, and to, through our civil liberties project, defend those that no one else will defend.
And that's why I would encourage people to go to fightthefines.com.
Sounds like Ty Northcott has his own lawyer, but we're giving the lawyer, we're crowdfunding him for Chris Scott.
We're crowdfunding the lawyer for Arthur Pavlovsky.
And actually, as of this morning's meeting, I learned that we are now representing 1,200 people across Canada.
And Sheila, I know you've gotten to know dozens of them.
Thank you for this update.
Let us know when Chris Scott is out of jail.
We'll want to talk to him.
And let us know if the police try any more moves.
Okay, we'll do, boss.
Talk to you later.
Okay, thanks, Sheila.
There you have it.
Sheila Gonreed coming to us live from the property of Ty Northcott in central Alberta.
Stay with us more ahead.
Welcome back.
I tell you, we have such a growing team, so many new people, including a team working all over Alberta.
There's now four reporters on our team in Alberta.
I think that's incredible, where recently we just had one.
But there's so much news out there as there is across Canada.
Our team is growing and it's growing because of support from you.
So I thank you for that.
The $8 a month you spend in subscribing to this premium show helps pay those bills.
Plus, if you're part of our crowdfunding effort, that helps too.
We now have a registered charity called the Democracy Fund working with us on the civil liberties project.
So, for example, the savearthur.com crowdfunding goes through that charity.
The charity hires the lawyers directly.
So the money never comes to Rebel News, but it pays for the battles that we would have had to pay for out of our own pockets.
So everyone's a winner.
The civil liberties clients get their legal help.
The lawyers get paid directly.
And donors actually get a charitable tax receipt.
Now, that's only for certain projects that are covered under the CRA categories of charities, but it's still wonderful.
And it's how we've been able to support 1,200 fight the fines cases.
It's just incredible.
You know, I feel like we're all alone sometimes when I look at Twitter or the other media.
We're the only folks on a certain side of the issue most of the time.
That is a lonely feeling if cyberspace were real, if Twitter were real, if the CBC were real.
But it's not real.
I find great strength in the fact that grassroots Canadians support us every step of the way.
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That's the show for today.
Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, excuse me, and you at home.
Good night.
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