Owen Shroyer details his deplatforming from Facebook and Instagram, framing it as part of a broader censorship trend against conservatives, including his January 2020 Capitol arrest amid partisan media silence. He claims the Me Too movement was weaponized selectively—targeting Trump while ignoring Biden’s alleged misconduct—and accuses BLM of similar bias. Distrusting vaccines due to legal protections for manufacturers and questioning COVID-19 death rate claims, he warns of a "fake pandemic" or intentional harm, linking mandates to profit motives. With limited mainstream invitations despite his following on Gab and YouTube, Shroyer urges action against what he calls an irreversible cultural-political collision, blending conspiracy rhetoric with calls for resistance. [Automatically generated summary]
Owen Shroyer is a reporter and broadcaster with Infowars.com and banned.video.
You can also follow him on Gab at AllIDOISOWIN.
Of course, Owen is famously banned from all of mainstream media, social media, mentioning him in a positive light on those platforms or even getting a photo with him, of course, will result in a ban on most of those Facebook and Instagram.
Thanks for joining me, Owen.
Hopefully, we don't get banned for this.
Yes, just say something negative about me and then you should be in the clear for at least half an hour.
How does it feel, by the way, to basically be depersoned like that?
I mean, I know you guys predicted a lot of that was going to happen, but can you really prepare for something like that?
Well, until you've actually experienced it, it's hard to really portray what it's like.
I mean, one of the common things that happened, it's kind of laughable at this point, but people always send me their stuff.
Hey, share this on Facebook, share this on Twitter, please share this.
It's like, I have nothing.
And they keep sending it no matter what.
They're always saying, I need this Facebook post.
And it's like, I can't even get on there.
But that's just kind of the little things.
The bigger thing is not having that platform, especially once you've used to having that platform, used to having that reach, whatever it was.
For some people, it's really large accounts.
For others, even if it's small, it's still there.
That's kind of like the more strange thing to it is having that voice just cut off.
And then you're not even allowed to be there.
It's like watching all your friends at a party that you're not allowed to be at.
But quite frankly, it's almost in a way been a blessing.
I think it's probably more healthy for my mental health not to be on there and tweeting and posting and worrying about all the stuff that goes on there.
And also because we were kind of on the first wave of the ban.
That kind of prepared us, I think, for this new era of censorship, so that we built our own platforms like banned.video and we weren't reliant on the big tech platforms like so many people are, and then by the time they they have their, they get their deplatforming, they don't know what to do.
Yeah and on on the topic of the partisanship that has been shown by most of these social, all of them, I guess you could say all these social media companies, I want to dial back to some of your videos and, you know, get your thoughts on how they stand with you now.
So one of them I want to throw back to first is when you were arrested at the Capitol.
I think that was is just over a year ago now, and get your thoughts on how this reflects on politics in 2021.
So let's get to that clip.
So there you go, there you go, ladies and gentlemen.
Another Trump supporter receives second class citizen treatment.
Another conservative received second-class citizen consent.
Is that because you don't know the reason?
Leslie. Leslie.
He's impeached already.
You don't know the reason, do you?
He's impeached already.
So so, so i'm gonna dominate them.
Let's dominate them.
So here's the truth about Trump's impeachment.
They're claiming that Trump's impeachment is for Ukrainian quid pro quo.
The only problem is Nancy Pelosi, who advanced the articles of impeachment to the Senate, admitted that they started this inquiry before Trump was even president.
So how can they impeach Trump for something he did as president?
You're in the way, so how can you not touch my cameraman, please?
Here we go.
Here we go.
Yeah, let's get him going.
So here's the five minutes of hate.
They'll deny the reality that Nancy Pelosi admitted that they started the impeachment process before Trump became president.
So how like to talk?
What is Trump being impeached for?
Sir, I will talk to you.
I'll explain the truth.
Trump is being impeached for what?
I didn't call him an impeachment.
No, no, no, what?
What are they bringing forward?
Why?
I didn't call him an impeachment.
No, no, why?
Why?
What was it?
Can anybody tell me why Trump was impeached?
Can anybody tell me why Trump was impeached?
So you got arrested for basically a silent protest just a day after a whole demonstration.
Can you explain what happened there?
Well, we were there, as you said, the day before.
This is at the U.S. Capitol building in January of 2020.
And this was actually a month after I was arrested for being in the impeachment hearings and standing up and saying Trump was innocent.
So they already had a target on my back.
That is the D.C. Capitol Police.
I was even told that.
In fact, I mean, I was warned that I would be arrested that day.
And they did, of course, come after me and arrest me.
But because the day before, as you said, there was a large impeachment display, or we'll say protest, however you want to say it.
I guess they weren't classifying it as a protest, but it was about 30, 40 people.
They all had messages on their shirt.
They were standing in a line so that you could read the message.
They had a larger message.
And I came up that day and I simply said, oh, well, I'll go interview these people.
Hey, what is your demonstration?
Why should Trump be impeached?
And of course, none of them could answer the question, typical liberal Democrat protest fashion.
They're out there protesting, but can't answer a single question as to why.
And so then they dispersed and they all kind of went in their direction.
And then they got a private tour of the Capitol.
They just immediately, oh, Schroyer shows up.
They disperse.
They get a private tour of the Capitol after their impeachment display that they had going on for hours.
They do it on the regular, actually, at the time.
They were regularly there.
So I showed up the next day and I said, well, I'll do my own demonstration, a one-man silent demonstration.
I even had tape over my mouth that said censored on it.
And the Capitol police came down and arrested me and say that it was an illegal demonstration.
And after that all happened, I mean, how did, did you reflect on any of the media coverage?
I remember watching at that time, it's just a protester arrested at the Capitol.
They know who you are, but they don't want to say it.
Is there anything to be said about how the media covers something like that in a completely partisan manner?
You know, honestly, other than InfoWars, I'm not even sure who did cover it because I was in jail for, I think, 29 hours, and then I immediately had to get out of jail and be to an airport within an hour and a half.
And then it was like a three-hour flight.
And then by the time I got home, so I didn't even see any media coverage of it.
I'm actually surprised any media did cover it.
Nobody ever reached out for comment or anything like that.
So, yeah, I mean, it was such a long process for me just to get my feet back on the ground after that that I didn't even notice any media coverage and nobody ever reached out for comment really that I can recall.
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So after the whole, we're in 2021 now, after the whole Rush investigation, the way the media treated people like you and the politicians and of certain cities allowing Black Lives Matter and Antifa and so forth to ravage the cities.
Do you think Republicans should sort of counter that, go do the same thing?
Can they even do that without the power?
Do you think that they should respond in kind like that?
I think that, you know, on one level, the average Republican doesn't like to run dirty tricks and deceptive techniques like the Democrats do.
I mean, let's just be honest.
That's a Democrat Party technique, whether it's faking hate crimes like Jussie Smollett or faking Russian collusion like the entire media and Democrat Party did.
So for Republicans who I think get on that level that you're talking about, they look at themselves and they'd say, well, we'd have to start playing these dirty games.
We'd have to be lying scoundrels, deceivers like the Democrats are.
And the average Republican just doesn't want to do that.
And I would say the average corrupt Republican just lets the Democrats get away with it or like Mitch McConnell or something, like he's never going to fight these people.
So I don't think that going to the lengths of the Democrats is the answer.
But I think being honest about what it is that they're doing and being more fierce in the pushback against it, saying, hey, look, you're out here faking hate crimes and then introducing critical race theory into our schools.
Like, who's really causing racism in this country right now?
Who's really adding racism to the equation here?
And that's just one small example.
So I think it's more of a pushback against the deceptions.
It's acceptance of the reality that if Nancy Pelosi is up there talking or Chuck Schumer's up there talking, they're probably lying to you and just calling it out.
I think that they're afraid of saying the wrong thing and having some negative story printed.
That's the obstacle they need to leap.
Not playing the dirty tricks of the Democrats, but leaping the hurdle of saying, hey, I'm not going to be ashamed of whatever I call this person or however I address this person because they're the liars, they're the crooks, they're the deceivers, not me.
I definitely agree on those points.
And right now, it seems to me that Biden and a lot of the Democrats are basically pretending states like Texas, Florida, Dakotas, they don't really exist.
How do you feel about the state of politics in the country?
And why do you think these lockdowns are being perpetuated as if, like I said, these other states aren't open and don't exist?
Well, the lockdown theme is a worldwide theme.
And so I think that that is dealing with something that goes beyond even the local government, the state government, or even the federal government.
I mean, it's the CDC, I think, for the most part influencing that policy, maybe Fauci at the NHIH or whatever it is.
But I think that for states, when you look at Florida or you look at Texas or some of the other ones that have stayed open, like a South Dakota, that is something that should be looked at.
You should be saying, hey, here are the states that have opened, here are the states that haven't.
And then you can do a compare and contrast.
Notice that the Democrat states like New York and Illinois and California had to have hundreds of billions of dollars of bailout money in the stimulus bill because their states were collapsing.
But the lockdown thing, I mean, that's really a worldwide theme that is just, I believe, a drill being run worldwide right now, just worldwide government, global government.
We're all experiencing that right now.
So I think that that's more of the issue that we're dealing with here.
But as far as most other issues, I think that the state is probably the answer when trying to get the federal government off your back.
And what you see in Florida and South Dakota and Texas kind of rejecting the masks, rejecting the lockdowns.
I think that that's kind of been a key factor.
Oh, and you're getting dangerous here.
You're making too much sense.
We're going to have to pull the plug in this interview.
I think the media has a big role to play in this.
And I often ask people if they think a lot of the members, I'm talking the CNNs, the MSNBCs, are they bad at their job or are they just lying?
So I often ask that question.
I want to ask that to you, but let me play an interaction you had once with somebody from CNN, Van Jones.
And I want to juxtapose that with him crying on election night.
So let's see if we can play that one.
Here's what I believe about Donald Trump.
I believe that Donald Trump is not a racist.
I believe that Donald Trump is worse than a racist.
Now, let me tell you why I think he's worse than a racist.
A racist is someone who believes that his group is superior to another group.
That's a racist.
Now, that's pretty bad.
Hey, how you doing, brother?
Good to see you.
Yeah, man.
That's pretty bad to think that your group is good and another group is bad.
That's horrible.
Who's Donald Trump's group?
But Trump is worse than that.
Trump is a racial opportunist.
He actually doesn't know what to do.
Oh, no, Oh, no, you want it.
You want it?
You want it, Bill.
I think you're a racial opportunist.
Maybe not.
Here's the deal.
Here's the deal.
This is why I wanted to walk away because I didn't know if you were the man who had enough character to listen to my answer.
So it's a character test for you.
I'm sorry.
You're bad.
No, no, I'm thinking it's a test.
We don't know yet.
We don't know yet.
So now, you ask the question, is Donald Trump a racist?
I say Donald Trump is not a racist.
I say he is worse than a racist.
He's a racial opportunist.
In other words, he uses other people's racial anxieties, other people's possible racial antipathies, or just discomfort.
And he plays with it for his own purposes, which means he doesn't think that his group is better than anybody else.
He thinks everybody's stupid.
He's playing all of us.
That's what I think about Donald Trump.
It's well, it's easier to be a parent this morning.
It's easier to be a dad.
It's easier to tell your kids character matters.
It matters.
Telling the truth matters.
Being a good person matters.
And it's easier for a whole lot of people.
If you're Muslim in this country, you don't have to worry if the president doesn't want you here.
So, Owen, try to hold back your tears on this one.
On one hand, he's joking around with you.
He's, you know, Trump is just a racial grifter.
He'll give credit to Kushner and Trump other times, but other times, you know, everything's a white lash and he's crying about how tough it is to be a parent in America.
Is there any way to determine whether or not these people are just bad or at their jobs or just lying?
I think that it's a case-by-case thing, honestly.
I think that you have to go case by case when dealing with these media people.
Like, for example, Anderson Cooper, I think, is just a known liar.
That one I think many people would have to have accepted by now.
But, you know, when you talk about Van Jones, it's rare.
Now, here's the credit I will give to Van Jones because I've had the opportunity to meet face to face almost every CNN host now that I'm thinking about it.
Tapper, Lemon, Blitzer, Cooper, and Jones.
I guess he's not a host, but Van was the only one that actually talked to me.
Every other one refuses to talk to me.
They all had security come brush me away.
Tapper was probably the meanest of all of them, but there was an energy to Anderson Cooper.
Let me just tell you, like, our cell phone equipment stopped working.
But anyway, I'll stop right there.
I'll stop right there.
So here's the thing.
With Van Jones, you can tell that there's a realness to the guy.
There's a, you know, he can be real with you.
You could probably sit down at a bar and enjoy a cold beverage with him, and it wouldn't be such a bad experience.
But he's obviously exaggerating his emotions on TV.
He's obviously selling to the audience.
He's been caught on Project Veritas tape admitting that he knew Russian collusion was a fake story, but yet they ran with that for three years.
So he doesn't have the most integrity, I would say, when it comes to being a reporter or a newsman, but he's smart enough to get by.
He's smart enough to do what he needs to do to be successful on TV.
He came out of the Obama administration.
He's obviously a smart guy.
But the funniest thing about that clip has to be the blatant hypocrisy of Van Jones saying Trump is a racial opportunist when that's everything CNN is.
I mean, everything he just said is exactly what the liberal media does, whether it's George Floyd or Jacob Blake or Michael Brown and all the big lies that they tell.
So, I mean, that's just incredible hypocrisy there from Van Jones.
But I think Van Jones is probably the better way to describe his situation would be he's just, he's kind of an actor.
He's more of an actor on TV.
He's smart enough that he knows what to say, what not to say.
And so he's been successful on CNN coming out of the Obama administration.
And he knew Russian collusion was fake news, but he still talked about it.
So that's kind of one example of just Van Jones.
Now, can we take any merit in watching the CNNs or the MSNBCs, or maybe your favorite, the Young Turks, I'd imagine, is probably your favorite.
Or should we just watch them to see what the other side is saying?
I don't watch a single second of the Young Turks.
I do.
I do.
I don't see any perceived value coming out of anything they do.
I mean, there isn't, I think there's maybe some inherent value in watching CNN or MSNBC or some of the mainstream news that I just monitor just to monitor what their narratives are and to kind of see where they're trying to go, where they're going to go next, what they're saying, because you have to counter their lies.
That's part of the job now of being a reporter and telling the truth and just countering the mainstream lies, countering the mainstream narrative.
And so when you can kind of put your finger on the pulse of what they're going to do, you can kind of see what they're going to do next and see what the deception is.
So I think there's some value in monitoring that, at least from where I sit at a news desk.
But yeah, the Young Turks will never get a second of my time.
I wish they would actually like debate us.
I mean, that would be fun.
That would actually be something that would probably get millions of views, but for some reason, they never have any interest in that.
I think the Alex and Chank interaction is one of my favorite videos of all time.
Who is that that spits on him?
Was that Jimmy Doer who spit on Alex Jones?
I think it was, yeah.
And the funny thing is, that video and the Van Jones video, they were both from the Republican National Convention in 2016.
those videos they had millions of views banned from youtube can't even so i don't know how you guys found him Good job.
Now, free speech, I want to transition to something I believe in wholeheartedly.
And if people want to lie on air, Van Jones wants to lie on air.
I'm okay with that.
But I want to move on to specifying on like weaponizing political experts or former office holders for what, for lack of a better term, you could call propaganda.
Now, I want to show an interaction you had with former Congressman Al Green, where he repeats the Charlottesville lies.
And I want to talk about, like I said, weaponizing these former politicians to get your point across.
Will you please quit lying about the president?
No, I'm going to tell you the truth.
He's not a racist.
He's a bigot and a racist.
He's won awards for his bigot and a racist.
Contributions to inner cities.
Bigot and the racist.
What has he done that's bigoted, sir?
What has he done?
There were no fine people in Charlottesville.
What does that have to do with anything?
What about the veterans that were there?
Well, the veterans who were there are fine people.
That's what he was talking about.
The veterans.
The people who were involved in killing that lady were not fine people.
Okay, well, that was a very tragic situation.
I talked to you.
But Trump is not a racist.
Look, you should stop saying that.
That's ridiculous.
Look at all the black people he works with.
Look at all the Hispanic people he works with.
Racists work with black people.
Your rhetoric is causing political violence.
Your rhetoric is providing the nation.
No, sir.
There's no fine people there.
Oh, wait, yes, the veterans are five.
He kind of answered his own question.
So, Owen, when people are the status of former congressmen or they're the John Brennans and James Clappers, they're lying nightly on TV.
How should the public deal with that?
Well, when you're dealing with a James Clapper or some of these other CIA guys that go on MSNBC and CNN, I think that that's a little more extreme than an Al Green who's just, quite frankly, a fumbling, bumbling moron.
Just from my few exchanges with him, that's the sad truth of the situation there.
But, you know, I think it's tough.
When they're in office or when they actually have a government job, I think that they should have some sort of, I mean, I would treat it almost like perjuring yourself under oath.
I mean, if you're working for the American people, I mean, I guess we have treason laws, you know, sedition laws and stuff like that.
But, you know, lying about weapons of mass destruction and then how many troops go into Iraq or Afghanistan and die because of those wars.
I mean, we could go on and on the Gulf of Tonkin.
This goes, this has been going on for decades.
But in the modern day, it's Brennan going on CNN saying, yeah, Trump is a Russian agent.
You know, we have Trump doing this and Trump doing that, all lies.
But he's not with the CIA anymore.
So how do you deal with that?
I don't know.
It's kind of a tough situation.
But for Al Green, again, like you said, we don't call for anybody to be censored.
We're free speech purists.
So Al Green has every right to go out there and call Trump a racist as much as he wants.
But so I don't know what you really do to punish that.
The problem is we are supposed to be living in a free republic.
So that means free market, free market of information, elections, everything.
But that's kind of eroding away.
So normally somebody like Al Green would not have a chance at office.
He's an idiot.
He's a fumbling, bumbling moron.
He lies to the American people every day.
He divides the nation every day.
This guy should have no chance in a free and open market with free and fair elections.
But we don't have a free market of information.
It's not even close.
And I don't think there's many people that even trust we have free or fair elections these days either.
And that's how you end up with the Al Greens and the Nancy Pelosi's and the Maxine Waters in there for decades.
Somehow, nobody seems to vote for these people.
Nobody seems to like them, but they're there.
They never lose an election.
And so I think the problem here is we don't have a free flow of information.
And I don't think we have actual fair elections or even real elections, quite frankly.
Do you think there should be term limits?
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I mean, that's not really a big issue I take up.
I think that if we had great politicians in there that were in there for 50 years doing great things standing up for America, we maybe wouldn't talk about term limits much.
But because it seems to be the criminals and the crooks that take advantage of no term limits, then maybe that's something to be considered.
But I think there's other ways to solve these problems without imposing more law.
Can you recall when do you think it was in your life when you started watching the television and being like, I don't necessarily trust this person because the TV tells me they're an expert.
Was there any moment like that or was it just a gradual?
I mean, I remember pretty vividly you sharing the list of people from the WikiLeaks that CNN was sharing their information.
Like the media, you remember what I'm talking about?
The media list of people that were basically colluding with the Clinton campaign?
When was it that you sort of as a person realized that maybe I shouldn't just be taking everything that these people say to heart?
Yeah, there was a very specific date.
I believe it was the day of the Boston Marathon bombing.
I think it was April 12th or 13th, 2013.
I'm trying to remember the exact date.
But anyway, and the only reason it wasn't necessarily anything too crazy about that day other than the fact that I was in sports media and that was all my, that was my whole career.
I was in sports media.
I never watched a lick of political news.
I mean, literally zero, zero minutes, zero seconds of politics, current events, didn't care.
I was in the sports matrix.
And so that was the first time, really, since I had been in professional broadcasting that sports and current events and news kind of merged.
And so for the first time ever, I tuned into cable news.
I mean, literally first time ever.
I think I'm like 22 or 23 hosting sports radio.
And so just watching the news to figure out what's going on with this Boston bombing situation.
And it was just like, it was just like instinctual.
Like no matter what channel, like I just knew, I was like, I don't trust any of these people.
This whole, all this seems fake.
And then just through a little research of my own with alternative news outlets, just to do a little bit of research on what was actually happening at the scene, I found out that there were a bunch of anomalies and there was a bunch of information they weren't reporting.
And I'm just sitting there thinking to myself, if I can get this information and if I can know this is going on, then certainly these people on cable television news know this is going on and yet they're not reporting it.
Hmm, something seems up here.
And then it went on.
I still remember the people's names, Ed Davis, Rich Delaurier, Carmen Ortiz, I think was the judge's name.
I mean, that was my red pill moment was just watching how the whole thing works, watching how they rig news, watching how they cover up current events.
And it was just like, boom, that was my red pill.
Like, okay, TV news has been lying my whole life.
Hmm, history is being written by the people that rig it my whole life.
Huh, this is kind of a weird thing.
And then I started transferring from sports to politics.
And it was really after the RNC of 2016, I think, that that was like my final time being in sports.
And then I moved on to politics.
Yeah, and I think that was a time where yourself and Alex Jones and Inforz really started opening up.
I mean, you guys became, like, you were big before, obviously, but in the mainstream news, you started to become a juggernaut with the Hillary fainting ordeal, the wobbly.
And you guys were the first ones to report it.
Paul Joseph Watson was right in there too as well.
I should mention his name.
So I think that helps with a lot of people realizing that they're not the only ones who are, you know, coming to a realization that everything that they see on there, this person that CNN puts up who's an expert, John Oliver's opinion, isn't exactly the end-all be-all.
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It's sort of like a fantasy land where only one point of view exists.
And everybody else who thinks otherwise, well, those are the crazy people.
And I think you would get a lot of that if you watched a lot of late-night talk shows.
I don't know.
Do you ever turn any of those on?
I guess I would have to assume that you don't.
No, I'm missing out on that.
You don't want to see Jimmy Kimmel cry?
Is that what you're telling me?
No, I'm missing the Kimmels of the world or whoever else is hosting late night talk these days.
Yeah, I haven't been able to watch it myself since I think Trump became president because it all just took such a sharp turn.
And there's so many publications like that.
So bad segue I want to make too is once when you were sexually assaulted on video.
For those of you watching who don't know about this, please take a look.
It's not as serious as it may sound.
Maybe it is.
Maybe I'm downplaying it, but let's take a look at that.
I think the instance in itself could be considered a minor issue.
So if our president woman buy the pussy, I can grab you by the balls.
She just grabbed my dick.
Is that sexual assault?
Is that sexual assault?
Yes.
So you just sexually assaulted me?
Should you be arrested?
Arrest me.
I'm not going to arrest you.
There are police officers right here.
So look at this.
Women have so much privilege.
She can sexually assault me and get away with it.
If I did that to her, I'd get arrested.
I just told you, if you want to go ahead, there are police right here.
I don't know.
I'm not complaining.
You're the one that walked up and grabbed my crotch.
Yeah, because I'm fighting for equality here.
How so?
Women get grabbed by the f ⁇ ing pussy, then I'm going to grab you by the balls.
I'm sorry to laugh, Owen.
don't know if you're still mentally recovering from that, but a lot of people like me want to know what ended up happening with that afterwards.
She did get charged with, I forget the exact charges, but I pressed charges for sexual assault and she did get sexual assault charges.
It happened, all the court case and everything concluded, I believe, over a year ago now, maybe even two.
So it's a little hazy, the final conclusion that was reached, but she did receive charges.
And, you know, looking back on it, basically what we decided, the lawyers were like, well, you know, technically, I think that she should be charged with this, but their lawyers didn't want it because that would put her on like a lifetime list, you know, of sexual assaulters.
And they thought maybe the judge wouldn't be so willing to go along with that.
So they said, let's put the chargers to a lesser sexual assault charge because we think that'll be a higher percentage.
And that's what she ended up getting.
That was maybe the only regret because I think that, you know, maybe she should have had a little more punishment there.
But I think she probably learned her lesson.
And the ultimate lesson, of course, is that once again, you just look at the way the left behaves.
You look at the way Democrat voters behave in public.
They're just total hypocrites.
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They don't believe in their message.
They don't even know their message.
They're out there fighting sexual assault and sexually assaulting people in the streets.
So, I mean, I don't know how much more hypocritical it gets than that.
But, you know, what's sad, though, is how many times I've been assaulted in the streets, how many times I've been death-threated in the streets.
I mean, dozens of times.
And I believe to this day, that is the only arrest.
That is the only arrest.
I mean, I've had men spit on me, the cops witness it.
I've had men throw punches at me, the cops witness it.
I've had men grab my genitals, drag queen story time deals, and then cops right there and they get away with it.
So, I mean, that's been the only time of all the death threats and assaults, that's been the only one that's resulted in arrest, which is pretty sad.
This is going to sound like a rhetorical question, but right now there's no BLM mass marches or riots.
There's no Antifa really in the streets, except for, of course, in their stronghold city of Portland, which they now rule, I guess.
No women's march this year.
Have these problems just gone away under Biden Owen?
Or do we know how long they have somebody to blame for it?
Well, I think that the agenda here has run its course, right?
Get Trump out, you know, get Trump.
So, I think now that Trump's out of the White House, I think these movements have really run their course.
They've fulfilled their duty.
Yeah, why wouldn't you have Me Too for Biden?
I mean, you know, I guarantee you, most of these people that claim Trump sexually assaulted someone probably couldn't even name the name, name a single name of a woman that's accused him.
But everybody knows Tara Reed, right?
So, it's funny how Tara Reed doesn't get any Me Too marches or anything like that for Biden.
But, you know, we don't even need Tara Reed.
I mean, we have the videos of Biden when women come into the White House and children come into the White House, the sniffing, the groping.
So, I mean, now that you have Cuomo too, they ignored Fairfax.
I mean, they laughed at Franken.
So, it just showed you.
The Me Too was nothing more than get Trump.
That's all it ever was.
And now that Trump's out, it's run its course.
So, oh, magically, the Me Too marches are done.
Oh, yeah, I'm sure that's just coincidence.
Those are some of your best videos, though.
So, we need those marches back.
We need more content that way.
And I'm really surprised that the Biden smelling hair of teenagers and saying, Oh, aren't you 17?
And they're like, No, I'm 12.
I'm surprised those don't get circulated a lot.
Maybe they are just suppressed is a more likely outcome.
So we want to say goodbye to the YouTube audience now, Owen.
We're going to move behind the paywall.
So you guys can go to RebelNewsPlus.com to see the rest of this interview for just $8 a month.
And what are we going to talk about?
We're going to talk about some of another one of your most, possibly your most viral video.
We're going to get your opinion on vaccines and young Republican groups.
So go to RebelNewsPlus.com to see the rest, you guys.
Okay, Owen, we're in even safer grounds now behind the Rebel News Plus wall, our safe space, we'll call it.
I want to get to, I think this might be your most viral video.
It might be one of the first ones I saw of yours.
I couldn't find the one where you're saying you got the bullhorn and you're talking about who donated to Big Pharma and it was Hillary, of course.
But the white male video, I think, is maybe the funniest one you've ever been a part of.
So let's go ahead and just remind everybody watching what that is.
Does Hitler not remind you of that?
Does Trump not remind you of that?
No, explain to me how Trump is like Hitler.
Mass debortion.
This would be shit.
Donald Trump wants to found it on immigration.
That's the question.
You've never experienced depression in your entire fucking life.
Neither have I. You're fucking a white male.
You're a white man.
Bullshit.
That's a Bernie Sanders.
That's what Bernie Sanders said.
No.
He ended it.
He died.
We have the militarization of police.
You can tell you are.
You're discounting my imagination.
The white guy's a bread today.
Oh, my God.
The white guy's a good person.
How could that happen?
Well, that is too wild.
I laugh every time.
Did you think it was going to be that widely shared when that happened?
Did you feel that in the moment of what was his nickname?
AIDS Skrillex, I believe, became his name?
Yeah, that was a wild AIDS Skrillex there that day.
You know, honestly, I had an idea that that was going to be pretty big in the moment because I had already met Infowars crew from prior events.
And so I think that, and I was already doing some political stuff at the time.
So I'm pretty sure when the InfoWars camera guy saw that I was there, you know, talking to these people, he immediately came to me and started filming.
So I knew it was going to be, you know, at least big because it was going to be on the Infowars platform.
But then once the crowd started getting, you know, wild and stuff, I kind of knew in the moment that that was going to be, it was going to be a famous video.
I don't think I could have ever predicted it was going to be that famous, but I definitely knew it was going to be big.
And then what happened was, because I go, at the time I was producing Afternoon Drive Radio.
And so after that event, I'm going in to get ready for that.
And I remember everybody starts coming in and they're like, hey, did you see this?
And my picture was on the St. Louis Post-Dispatch website.
It was like going viral on all these other local sites and everything.
And I wasn't even really paying attention to that because I was going to work.
And so then I was like, whoa, this is actually going to be, this is actually going to be a big thing.
And then the YouTube video of that on the Infowars channel was already getting millions of views.
There were already like remixes of AIDS Skrillix, like dance songs and stuff that I think may still be up.
But yeah, that was probably, I don't know if it's still the most viral video I've done, but definitely at the time it was.
No, that's about five years ago or so from today.
50 people yelling at you.
Has discourse gotten better or worse since then?
Wow, that's actually, that is crazy.
I think it is exactly five years ago even.
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Has discourse, it's gotten worse.
It's gotten worse.
Well, it doesn't even exist anymore.
I can't even, I can't even go.
I couldn't even go and recreate that magic if I wanted to anymore because they either refuse to talk to you or they get pretty violent immediately.
That's why a couple weeks ago when I went out to a pro-mask rally, I'm not even kidding you.
It was a pro-mask rally.
That makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
And so you can imagine the type of characters that were there.
But that was like the first time in a long time where I could actually go to an event like that and actually have a microphone and get people to talk to me or like be in an event that didn't get just totally out of control or, you know, whether it got violent or people just not talking to me.
So it's honestly, it's hard for me to even do that anymore.
So it's kind of like I've been forced into retirement in a way.
But I think it's probably gotten worse.
I think it's gotten worse in five years.
Sadly, it's gotten worse.
Now, maybe, maybe it can start to come back around now that Trump is not in office, but from where we're at five years ago, it's definitely gotten worse.
Now, there are some groups, of course, that are trying to promote this sort of thing.
And I wanted to get your opinion on them.
Because I know you're not an establishment guy.
I know you're not just going to ride or die with the Republicans.
I'm the same way.
I'm not just going to go with a party.
I'm going to go where I think the good ideas are.
Groups like Turning Point, Young American Foundation, do you see them as an overall good, or are they sort of just farming old thought patterns from a Republican party that maybe not all of us support anymore?
Yeah, kind of like the extension of boomerism or something.
Yeah.
I mean, I talked to some of them.
Sorry to interrupt, but I've interviewed some of them.
I've talked to some of them.
I mean, I agree with most of what they're saying, but the way it's sort of formed in a machine, I don't know if I can get behind that.
Yeah, I think, you know, Turning Point is obviously a very wide, wide-stretching organization.
And so a lot of the individuals, you know, that I've met are really great people.
And I think that pretty much agree with at least all or most of the messages that I talk about on my broadcast.
But I do think, you know, when you talk about Charlie Kirk and you talk about, you know, the top operation, there's a lot of big money behind that.
I think they're connected at the hip to the Republican Party.
And so the narrative is always going to be controlled.
And there's always going to be, you know, ceilings.
There's always going to be limitations of where they're going to go with their information.
And so, you know, I think there's obviously good in it.
But the thing is that people just need to understand that that's like riding on a bunny hill at the ski resort.
It's like Turning Point USA is like the bunny hill of freedom, I would say.
You know, like, oh, let's, you know, we're going to hop on the bunny hill and we're going nice and slow and it's nice and safe here.
We're in our comfort zone on the bunny hill.
And so that's just kind of what it means to me.
But, you know, I think most of the people that are there are good.
You know, Charlie Kirk, for whatever reason, always wants to snub me and act like he doesn't know who I am or like he doesn't know that I exist.
And so I don't know if that's true or not.
If that is true, then he really has no clue what's going on.
Was that when you were at the convention next to him?
That was you, right?
Yeah, no, it was at CPAC 2019 or 2020.
2019.
Yeah, 2019.
No, I think it was 2020.
I mean, it was 2019.
Man, it's all like a blur.
Anyway, yeah, he's coming up.
He's shaking all these people's hands.
And I'm like, hey, Charlie Kirk, how you doing?
Owen Troy Infowars.
And he like snubs me and everybody around is chanting Charlie and Infowars.
And then his little handlers literally grab him and he's like, oh, I got to go.
And he like runs away.
And there was actually another time he snubbed me too.
It was just this thing.
We were both at Trump Hotel and I was sitting in this chair and I saw him walk by and I was just like, I was just like, oh, hey, Charlie, how you doing?
Like just jovial.
And he literally acted like he didn't even hear me and just like scooted away.
So I don't know what the deal with that is.
I don't want to think the worst about TPUSA, but it's just, it's the bunny hill of freedom, I would say.
It's the bunny hill of freedom.
You're not going to really have any thrills.
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You're not going to really get anything new, but you're always going to be safe.
And I think you're always going to be connected to the Republican Party.
So you'll only go as far as they want you to.
As far as young Americans for freedom, lot smaller, not as much big money behind it, a little more libertarian leaning.
And so I think that you get a little bit more of an organic approach to the issues that aren't really tied to party politics like you do with TPUSA.
But I've only had a few run-ins with people from YAF, but I think it's more libertarian leaning, not much big money behind it.
So it's more organic in its approach.
For sure.
Charlie Kirk, stop cool guying Owen Shroyer.
So one of the last questions I want to ask you is about vaccines.
Everyone's going to want to know, is Owen Shroyer getting any of the vaccines for coronavirus?
No, no, I won't be getting any of the vaccines.
Neither will I.
And I'm telling my family, do not get the vaccines either.
Now, do you think this is, do you think the pharmaceutical companies, I don't want to put you on the spot here, but do you think that there's something more purposeful or bad behind it?
Or is it too much of a risk for them to put out something that's defective and would affect their sales?
Well, there's really no risk involved at all for big pharmaceutical in this case, specifically with vaccines, because you can't take a vaccine manufacturer to court.
You can't do it.
They have their own special court system where basically if the court says that there was damage, then they'll pay you a fee, but that's it.
And so most people don't even know they were vaccine damaged.
So there really is no risk inherited by the vaccine manufacturers in this case.
But you know, I think here's the thing.
At the very least or the best case scenario that we have here is big pharmaceutical companies or whoever with the media and perhaps some of the people that they own in Congress just ran what I would call a fake pandemic.
If you look at the death count numbers, they did not go up in the year 2020.
They did not go up a single percentage.
Now, how is that possible with the deadliest pandemic ever?
So at the best case scenario, big pharmaceuticals and media companies and the congresspeople that they own just faked the pandemic to sell a bunch of vaccines.
And boy, boy, did they.
Hundreds of millions of vaccines distributed.
They'll make billions, if not trillions of dollars over time with this deal.
So great job.
They own the media.
They own the courts.
They own the Congress.
They just made themselves billions of dollars in a huge scam.
That's best case scenario.
That's best case scenario because people can understand that.
What's the motive?
Money.
Okay, everybody gets that.
But worst case scenario, they're running a trial vaccine.
It's all by design.
Who knows what this thing is going to do?
We've already got people dropping dead.
You've got people having horrible side effects like Guillain Beret's syndrome and Bell's palsy.
So, I mean, it's not good.
And it looks like right now, I would say for most people, the odds that you're going to have a negative experience with the vaccine are higher than the odds you'll have a negative experience with COVID.
And that's something that I bring up with a lot of people.
I mean, they're going to say, oh, it's just for all of our safety.
But my belief has sort of shifted to that there's a lot of money to be made by this.
And that's what I was kind of referring to earlier when I talked about the ignoring of states that are open because Biden gets up there and he's saying, well, you know, if you get a vaccine, you could have a 4th of July.
Well, you can have a 4th of July in about 15 other states, but you have to get this vaccine at the same time.
I don't understand the messaging other than please get this and make us a lot of money.
Am I talking crazy here?
No, I mean, this is the simplest formula, really.
We all know how much money is in big pharmaceutical companies.
We all know how much they invest in media and politics.
So, yeah, they would be able to control the message on both of those platforms.
And if they can get people to promote their vaccine and have you in fear that you want to get the vaccine, then yeah, they'll sell 100 million vaccines.
I think the number is almost half a billion now of vaccines distributed worldwide.
So that's a pretty nice boondoggle.
That's a pretty nice cash flush that they just had there.
All right.
One more question, and then I'll let you go because I appreciate your time.
Is this the start of the Owen Shroyer podcast tour?
We see Alex on the Flagrant podcast.
He's been on Rogan.
I don't see you on as many podcasts as I would like.
Can we start you getting on more and more of these?
Well, I would love to do them.
I'm obviously not as big as Alex.
And I think the reason why people don't really invite me on podcasts is because I was pretty much censored before anybody really started looking into censorship.
And I was pretty much censored before people saw that I had a big YouTube channel with hundreds of thousands of subscribers and a big Twitter account and all that stuff.
So that's what people look for for guests now.
And if you're not there, they just really don't have any interest in you unless they follow your stuff.
So I don't know.
I don't mind Alex doing the heavy lifting and going and doing all the podcast tours.
That's not a bad thing, but I'm always appreciative when people invite me on.
All right.
Well, I want to see more of you.
I think I see a lot of myself in you, Owen.
Let me tell you.
I don't know who's older.
Maybe it's vice versa.
Maybe my suit was stolen from you.
Who knows?
How old are you?
That'll have to be behind the double paywall.
You can only get the secret information from the double paywall.
It'll include your suit size, my suit size, our ages, and our fake birth certificates.
Hospitals of birth, everything.
Last word to you, Owen.
Go ahead.
Well, you know, we're in incredible times right now.
And I think that if you are like me, you always had an instinct, you always had a gut intuition that humanity would be faced with this crisis and that we would have to make a choice.
So people just need to make a choice because you can see where culture is going.
You can see where society is going.
You can see where America is going.
If you don't like it, you better take action to turn it around because this is an unstoppable force meeting, an immovable object, and it's going to be really bad if we don't turn this ship around and save the Republic soon.
All right.
Finer words have not been said by myself.
All I do is Owen on Gab and, of course, banned.video and infowars.com, War Room.
War Room is raw.
Do we still have the wrestling theme right now?
We keep 90s themes consistent.
We've kind of backed off a little bit of the attitude era, but it's always there.
It's always underlying.
All right, as long as we get the glass shattering at the beginning, I think we're okay.