Avi Yemini, an Australian-Israeli journalist, details how fightthefines.com.au exposed lockdown abuses—like a $1K fine for holding an anti-lockdown sign or a $10K penalty for crossing borders to shop. He accuses Jim Jeffries of maliciously editing his interview to link him to neo-Nazism and the Christchurch massacre, despite dropping a lawsuit after Viacom threats. Abby Yamini, his co-host, reveals her own deplatforming (five Facebook pages, 1M+ followers lost) and vaccine passport skepticism, citing "no jab, no play" policies as coercive. Both warn of media manipulation and conservative censorship, urging recording all interactions while hinting at Rebel News’ paywall show for uncut content. Lockdowns, they argue, sacrifice freedoms without proportional gains, exposing systemic overreach. [Automatically generated summary]
Should we believe anything the CCP, anything the Chinese government is telling us about coronavirus?
It just very such crap as such answer.
As I mentioned, that's Dr. Australia.
China is asshole.
All the people is assholes.
What gives anyone the right to tell anyone where they can and can't live?
When you import this culture, what do you think is going to happen?
Australia's going to end up the same shithole that they came from and that they were escaping.
Watch how.
Jim Jeffries has edited this last clip to make me look like an ass.
See what I really said.
What gives anyone the right to tell anyone where they can and can't live?
Really?
I know they're in borders, but wouldn't it just be nice if we got to a place in society where we had hopefully utopia where we all just lived as a go in jail?
There must be some reason.
You don't think that the communist government is a little bit dodgy?
No.
No, no.
No.
Really?
The white South Africans now that are about 30 years old stole land?
No, but that's the history of the place.
That's the history.
So they deserve what?
A genocide?
Can you sign our South African white South African?
We want to bring in the refugees from South Africa.
I would prefer if the Rohingya came here first.
Why is that?
Is that because they're brown?
Aviyameni is an Australian-Israeli reporter.
He's known for his work with TR News as an independent YouTuber and of course for his work with Rebel News in Australia on fightthefians.com.au.
You can find him on Twitter at AusraeliAvi, Instagram, AusraeliAviYamimi, and he has nearly half a million subscribers on YouTube.
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Avi, how are you?
Where are you?
G'day, mate.
How you doing?
Starting with the accent already.
You're going to crack me up.
Are you at home in Australia?
Where are you?
Yeah, I'm at home at the moment.
It's nine o'clock in the morning.
I'm having my morning coffee.
Getting ready to head to the gym in my gym where.
Oh, we can't do that here.
You're a lucky man.
So I like to start these off by mentioning how I first came across the guest.
Like so many people, I remember you from your YouTube channel and your work on TR News.
My question to you is, what was the moment where you started deciding to do more journalism, more YouTube videos?
I mean, I think you started with, what, self-defense videos online?
How did you make the jump to journalism, so to speak?
Well, it wasn't self-defense videos online.
I actually owned two 24-hour fighting gyms in Melbourne after when I finished my service in the Israeli army.
And I guess I kind of fell into it.
There was a period where Israel had gone into Gaza in one of these operations.
And I remember just watching the mainstream media reporting on it here, our ABC, the Australian Broadcasting news service.
And I was watching it angrily and seeing how they were telling one side of the story.
And it certainly wasn't a side of democracy and freedom.
And so I just at the time, we had quite a large Facebook presence.
And I just started from our business, which was IDF Training because it was Israeli army style self-defense.
It was Krav Magar, and I remember I started posting, you know, my thoughts on the situation on the ground as somebody who served for a number of years there in that exact location.
And, you know, it caused a little bit of controversy.
I think some people did boycott our gym.
Not that I cared because at the end of the day, I thought, well, you're coming to an IDF training gym to learn Israeli Krav Magar.
If you don't stand with Israel, then I don't really, I don't even know why you're here.
It's the principles of Israeli self-defense, which is applied in the Israeli army.
It's the exact same thing.
So the fight that you're learning here, and this is how I justified it to myself and others that tried to give me any kind of advice on what I should or shouldn't be doing.
But after that, that whole situation ended, it sparked a lot of conversation.
And I guess I found a voice and I did start posting my political opinions on different situations or reporting different things.
And I got, I guess, constructive criticism from people whom I don't even know if they aligned with my views at the time, but they just said, We love your gym.
I don't know if you should use your platform here where you have two good, successful gyms to push you.
Maybe you should.
And that's when I opened an Avium Mini Facebook page at the time.
And I started making videos.
And what is it now?
It's probably six years later, seven years later.
I sold those gyms a couple of years ago.
And it's my full-time gig first at TR and now at my home at Rebel News right here with you.
What was the first video you had that was completely politics that blew up?
Do you remember?
The first one that blew up, probably from memory, and I don't know, I don't have the best memory on these situations.
It may unprofessional, Avi.
That is, they're trying to interrupt us with the group meeting.
The first one that blew up from memory, my memory is not that great.
So if I remember correctly, it possibly was the besides for rant, I did a lot of rants at the time to Facebook Live.
That's when Facebook was kind of okay and they didn't censor everyone.
But my first proper report was, I think, at a, I went to one of these pro-refugee rallies and I decided to ask them if they would sign my petition to allow the white the well, I framed it, the refugees from South Africa, which were the white farmers.
And yeah, I guess that was probably the first one that really blew up from memory.
Well, the one that I wanted to go ahead.
Yeah.
The one that I wanted to comment and ask you about is the one that, was it Trump Jr. or who retweeted the China is asshole guy?
Because that's one that went that crossed political lines.
Oh, yeah.
I think that one, that, that was what that was the face of 2020, or at least for the first half of 2020, especially after the Wuhan virus.
That one did get a lot.
So that was actually, that was one of the first times I worked with Rebel News in Hong Kong.
So I was working for TR and Ezra contacted me to see if I would go over to Hong Kong and work, you know, TR alongside Rebel together.
And that moment, you know, I reflect on it now because at the time when we were filming it, like I didn't think much of it.
It was just a passionate guy speaking his mind.
And I think it even took a month after it was, it was just part of one of the stories we did on the ground during the Hong Kong protests.
And suddenly it was picked up by everyone.
When you're in Hong Kong, I'm guessing you're not a guy who walks down the street and has fear of being beaten up in Australia or in the UK or whatever.
When you're in Hong Kong, is there a different feeling?
Like, you know, mainland China doesn't want this place to even they don't want them to have their own government, their own electoral system.
They don't want them to have their own freedom.
What's the feeling like when you're in Hong Kong and especially a person that people know of and they might be coming after reword?
You're going to get kidnapped.
What's the feeling like while you're doing journalism in Hong Kong protests?
I think now it's very different now because of the new security law.
You know, I've had conversations with Ezra saying, oh, I just want to go back.
I want to go back to Hong Kong.
And obviously, taking making that move, going heading to Hong Kong now comes with that risk of being shipped back to mainland China in breach of that security risk.
So we might have to sit on it and think of it.
But back when I went, and I went a couple of times.
Well, the first time I just went there as somebody that no one in Hong Kong really knew, just another Western reporter.
What I found is that when you're there, and I think that time maybe Keen was there too at the time, or that was the second time.
I can't remember.
But when you walk around, it was just things were normal unless you headed to the actual protest and you kind of followed him around.
It was bizarre because there were pockets of protests that were always moving, and the rest of the city was kind of functioning around that.
And it's a city that, you know, goes for into the night almost.
It's almost 24/7.
Then the second time you'd seen a shift towards where we are now, where the protest was more ingrained and everywhere.
And it was also very different for me personally because when I went there, I was already known by Hong Kongers as that Australian that challenged mainlanders in Australia.
And some of the videos that I did for TR at the time actually were far more popular in Asia, in Taiwan, Hong Kong, and places like that.
So you walk down the street and you kind of, you know, you feel the sense of appreciation and love by Hong Kongers that were doing that work.
But now I couldn't tell you, I really miss Hong Kong.
Hong Kong's a fantastic place.
The people are really nice.
They have that gentle, respectful Asian culture, but then they also bring that Western way of thinking and democracy and love for freedom.
And, you know, it's very sad to look now and see that really coronavirus has, I think, cost the Hong Kongers this part of the fight because the rest of the world, you know, the world, if you remember before coronavirus, the world was really focused on what was happening on the ground in Hong Kong.
Yeah, suddenly coronavirus stuff were talking about it.
It was everywhere.
Everyone was talking about it.
And from the left and the right.
It wasn't a partisan issue.
It was everybody cared.
And it was the one issue that everybody was siding with the Hong Kongers.
And since then, you know, coronavirus and the election and we're here today and people care more about, you know, you said mean things to me rather than the arbitrary jailing of freedom-loving people on the front line in the fight against communist China.
It's a really bizarre time we live in, but I guess that's why we're here.
For sure.
And I can only imagine what it'd be like there now.
When I talk about China versus Hong Kong, I'm reminded of another video of yours.
We were interviewing some young Chinese nationals.
I think they're on vacation or they're there for school.
And that really got me thinking a lot about some stuff.
I had just recently watched a documentary on Maoism and how that all happened in China.
And I couldn't help but think that a lot of these people that you spoke to, a lot of these kids, they sound a lot like American social justice warriors.
And I can't help but think or wonder.
And what I'm going to ask you is, is China's dictatorship more an influence of the government on its people?
Or do you think it's possible that they developed a country full of social justice warriors that basically is almost where America is now, where they believe these facets of their culture so much and they believe in maybe their fake issues, maybe their fake virtues that they're believing in, that they believed it so much that they decide to vote in the people that agree with them.
And these are people that don't particularly pay attention to politics.
They don't care if there's censorship.
They don't care if the government's reading everything they're saying.
They just want to have TikTok and they want to have a video platform.
In your opinion, what is it that makes people in China so complicit with their government?
Because there must be some degree that they know that the rest of the world sees them as kind of strange, or do they?
I think it's a mix of different things.
And also, you've got to remember, China is 1.4 billion people.
The ones that come here for school or for holiday, they're not the majority.
They're in the minority and they're pretty well set up in China.
And most of them would have some sort of connection to the communist government there, whether they work for them, whether they've just got close business ties, whatever it is.
So I don't think the people that I talk to here are a reflection of the majority in mainland China.
I do think that there's a mix of what you're saying.
There are some that, there's probably a lot, especially within that class, that believe they're standing for what's right.
They're nationalists.
They believe in their country.
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They believe in their government as well.
They believe in censorship.
They believe, they truly believe in it.
So that's their version of what you'd say, like the social justice warriors we have here.
But I think that in China, the difference is, and what I found is that you can't actually have a rational conversation with especially those groups because they don't believe anything else outside of China.
They've been brainwashed in China for their entire lives.
Now, the ones, again, that we see here, they have pretty comfortable lives.
So why would they question it?
They have a comfortable life.
And then on top of that, they've been fed these different narratives, which are nationalistic Chinese, Han Chinese.
So they are a very racist group.
They don't like minorities.
Just ask any of the Uyghurs in China.
So they have their views that have been built from childhood from the fact that all their mainstream, all their news, all their media, all the content that they consume feeds this narrative.
It supports narrative.
And if it doesn't, it's banned.
So they don't really get to see opposing views.
And they all have, you know, when I talk to those ones that you're talking about, and I asked them a simple question going, okay, which one of the five demands from the Hong Kongers, the Hong Kong protest movement, are you against?
What don't you agree with?
What don't you want to give them?
And none of them could answer that because they weren't being fed that.
They were being fed one line in China, which in mainland China, which was that that Hong Kong protest movement was about independence.
And the truth is, especially at that time, it had nothing to do with the independents was a very fringe minority that were asking for independence.
The five demands were nothing about independence.
In fact, I would say, anecdotally, from speaking to Hong Kongers on the ground, they didn't want really independence from China.
They enjoyed having a big brother.
They identified as free Chinese.
They're Chinese.
They look Chinese.
They eat Chinese food, but they just had Western democratic values, but they wanted that big brother.
Now, I think it may have changed since then.
And you can't blame them because I think a lot of people realize that the only way out of what's going on there now is through democracy, through independence.
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It's hard to say what it would be without the coronavirus.
You're right.
There is people, the Houston Rockets NBA team were getting in a lot of trouble for just basically bowing to them, even though their general manager said free Hong Kong.
And it's sort of this whole firestorm that I wish we could, there's topics like that that I wish we could still talk about.
But right now, it's just completely blown out of the water and playing second fiddle.
I want to transition to fight the fines.com.au, which is how you've made us, what seems to be more popular in Australia, at least you, are way more famous in Australia than I am here, for example, or David Menzies or whomever is here.
And what I want to ask you is, what was your most memorable case to date?
The one that comes to mind for me is probably the homeless guy, where there's so many problems when people run into, in big cities, they run into homelessness and nobody wants to, and there's a strong contingent of people that say, don't put them in a home, don't put them in prison or anything like that.
But in Australia, this homeless guy is living in his car and he's getting fined for that.
What's your most memorable fightthefines.com.au case?
Yeah, there's a bunch of them.
Even the one we released a couple of days ago, which was that woman that was exercising and the police literally grabbing the child from her arms and throwing her in the back of a Divivan and like a police car and slamming,
like violently slamming her in there, you know, for a $1,000 fine because she was wearing a sign that was against the lockdown.
But there was a family, there was a beautiful family that we did a story on that got $10,000 in fines and were fighting their fines.
And that fine was because they lived on a border between city and rural Victoria.
So at the time, there was like this fake line that border that you were supposed to recognize.
And if you crossed from one side to the other, it was a $5,000 fine.
And there were two adults and they just went to their closest health food store, which crossed that line because they live on the border.
And they got $10,000 in fine.
And it was just like this beautiful young family trying to, you know, survive in a time where one parent wasn't able to work and the other, you know, where the government stripped them of everything, including their most basic fundamental human rights.
And I remember just watching them and they were kind of, you know, they were just, they were just grateful that Rebel News was around and able to do something and step in where no other civil liberties group here in Australia is doing anything about it.
They're hardly even talking about it.
So it was exciting.
And I guess for me, the whole fight the finds project that we've done, I'm really happy because I feel like it was almost the perfect time that I joined Rebel News because I got that opportunity that, like you said, here, it became really popular and it empowered people to fight back.
Each fine that we took on, each fine, and we're still doing them, each fine that we're fighting for people just teaches others that you can do it and you don't have to worry.
And just because a police officer issues you with a fine doesn't make it right, doesn't make it legal, doesn't mean you're in the wrong and you're a bad person.
Same as I will open.
That was, you know, that's what we launched here during the lockdown in Victoria.
We had the longest and harshest lockdown in the world.
For months we were locked down and we had curfews.
We weren't allowed to leave our home.
We were allowed out for one hour a day exercise.
There were roadblocks.
It was intense.
And at some point we started the I will open campaign where anyone who wished was going to open, who said, no, I've had enough, I was going to open, just let us know and we'll report the story.
And it created this wave of industries that were opening.
And I had a backlog already of businesses saying, yep, we're going to open on this date.
And suddenly the government started opening things up.
So I really truly believe that more than even just protests, the way that Rebel News has been taking on these issues, at least here in Australia, has really changed the conversation.
And it's moved people away from just going on the street and protesting, which is great.
But we've seen some of the scenes, you know, my first day at Rebel News, I got tackled to the ground as a journalist at one of those protests.
We're just reporting.
So there was that kind of heavy-handedness at the police.
But when you suddenly had small businesses rising up saying, no, I'm going to open my doors.
Fine me.
Fine me.
I don't care because either I'm going to crash or I'm going to, when you started to have that and, you know, it was a domino's effect as soon as one did it and we reported on it and it kind of got a bit of publicity, the next one did it.
And then suddenly all these other ones were calling and doing it and the government lost control.
They weren't, what are they going to do?
They weren't able to come in and do what they did, what I've seen them doing in Canada to the barbecue guy because it got out of control.
And I can understand why in Canada, the government, possibly we're looking at what was happening in Australia and they go, we better stop this now at the first guy, make it not worth anyone's while to do it because you see what happens here.
As soon as you lose control, as soon as people realize that what's the worst that can happen, I'm going to lose my business anyways.
I might as well go out fighting.
That's what kind of happens and the government can't control anything.
And same with the fines.
When people realize that a fine is just a piece of paper and you can fight it and there's, you know, just keep at it.
Just do what you believe is right and then fight the unjust fines later.
And that's what we did here.
So it's been great.
Avi, when people talk about lockdowns around the world and people I know do it and people online, of course, do it.
They point to Victoria as, hey, this was a harsh lockdown and now the numbers are gone.
Did the lockdown work?
And if so, at what cost?
Let me put it to you this way.
If you lock everyone into their homes for 24 hours, seven days a week, guess what?
Nobody's going to get hit by a car.
It works.
So why don't we do that?
So the question is not whether locking people down stops a virus from spreading.
Obviously, if people are locked down, a virus can't spread.
Now, I love when they compare Australia to Canada to North America.
You know, oh, well, do you want to be like America?
You want to be like Trump?
It's very different.
We're an island.
And if you control the borders as they did here, yes, you can bring the numbers down to the figures that we've got.
But I'd argue, is it still worth it?
After everything that we now know, is it still worth it?
And at what cost is what you say, you know, how many businesses shut down in this period?
How many families?
And we haven't even started to feel the pain because even until now, the government is propping up businesses and families.
When that money runs out, when that all dries up, mate, I don't think people realize what we're about to face here in Australia.
It is going to be painful.
And for what?
Or a virus that, yeah, it's not good, but it's certainly not what we originally thought it was.
You know, most of my family got coronavirus overseas.
Most of my family.
Now, in the first, in the beginning, when they told us, you know, I had two family members that had died.
They told us at the time from coronavirus or, you know, later, we don't know if it's problem with, but they were older.
But the rest of my family, my age, all got coronavirus.
Two of them fell sick.
There was a wedding in my family where my whole family got coronavirus.
Everyone at the wedding in Miami.
And only two felt sick, let alone anything more than that.
So if you think that it's worth shutting down the entire economy for that, well, I think talk to me in a couple of years when Australia starts to really feel the pain of what we went through in the state of Victoria, when it starts to feel the pain, all the job losses, all the business closures, everything that came at that cost, then talk to me.
But even if you think it's worth it, you can't compare it to North America because You don't have the ability to control the borders like we do here.
And it's interesting.
It's all the people that are advocating this kind of authoritarian response to coronavirus.
As Australians, I can't come and visit you.
Australia is the only place in the world at the moment that your passport doesn't mean very much.
You can't get back into Australia.
There are Australians stranded all around the world with your passport.
You cannot get back into Australia.
In fact, you can't even go between state to state.
So as a Victorian, I can't just go to New South Wales, which is, you know, a thousand kilometers down the road drive.
I can't drive.
I can't drive and return.
So if you think it's worth living like that and you consider that lockdown working, like I said in the beginning, if you lock everyone in their home for 24 hours a day, seven days a week, why don't we do it like China?
Why don't we start boarding people, you know, locking people up with wooden slats, you know, nail them into their own homes and we'll never have disease.
We'll never have anything.
We'll be fine.
I think you would find people who would be for that here in the Western world.
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I think people, I think it's gotten so far where the hysteria has gone so wild that I think people would actually support.
I mean, they're instituting jail penalties now here.
Upwards of one year in prison now is what they're suggesting.
Okay, Avi, we are in the restricted area.
You are free to, you want to do a shirtless, you want to swear and smoke.
I think we can do it now.
Jim Jeffries is something that comes up a lot, especially when I put on Twitter.
What's your question for?
First of all, I want to say, when I put up your questions for Avi on Twitter, you've got a low bar of trolls.
And these are people that are creating a it's pretty obvious when they copy and paste the same messages, but people are creating multiple accounts just to say, ask Avi why he's an asshole.
The bar for your trolls is gone this way.
But they want to know what happened with Jim Jeffries and what's happened since.
So for the people who don't know, we'll show a bit of the Jim Jeffries video that I watched when I was just a viewer of yours.
And I liked Jim Jeffries before that.
He kind of turned into a rambling drunk, in my opinion, yelling at people on Bill Maher and such.
Tell us exactly what happened there, what the story was, and what's happened since.
So with Jim Jeffries, listen, I knew the moment I got a call from his producer saying he wanted to invite me onto his show to talk about, I think, immigration, right-wing politics.
And I knew immediately, because I remember what he did to Jordan Peterson, and I knew immediately what it meant.
And I gave him two conditions.
I said, don't put me on there with actual neo-Nazis.
I don't want to be, you know, I don't want you to put me alongside them to make it as if I support their views or they are me and I am them.
They agree.
And the second one, which was also a very reasonable request, was that they don't cut my answers from one question to another question.
Just, you know, if you want to, I don't care if you don't include the whole interview.
We sat there for an hour or whatever, but just put the answers to the questions you ask.
Isn't it sad that you have to ask that they put the stuff in context?
And the reason why I did that is because, like I said, I'd gone and looked and I'd seen Jordan, what they did to Jordan Peterson, and I could see the technique and it was obvious that they were doing that.
And they agreed.
They said, of course.
Of course, we would never do it.
I remember you saying to me, oh, no, that's, we don't do it.
And they have that.
The second red flag was the moment they have a word for it.
I can't remember it now, but a word for the technique of cutting up the answers.
And I thought, that's so funny because only somebody who actually operates in that space where they do that kind of stuff would have a term for it.
Anyways, they flew me to Singapore for this, you know, accommodation, hotel, flights, accommodation.
And, you know, it was like a, I thought, great, three-day holiday.
And they must have thought I was a moron.
What is it?
Why Singapore?
He's from Australia, right?
Yeah, but he's based in the US.
He's based in the US.
He lives in the US now.
I think he was doing a show in Singapore at the time.
And it was a line because at the time, they wanted me at the, when they called me, they were in Australia, but I was in Israel at the time.
So I said to him, I can't do it now.
It'll have to be.
So it just worked out.
Singapore, they were flying me in.
I was going to have a few day holiday.
And they just thought I was, you know, an idiot.
And I just took two mobile phones at the time.
And I walk in there and it's at some bar.
And I just look, these people are so self-absorbed that they didn't realize that I'm, I'm walking in there.
There's, I don't know, 20 people in there at least doing this production.
And I'm sitting there and there was like a couch in front of the chairs that we were sitting for the interview.
And I'm propping up the phones and like sitting them up properly to film my own version of what happens.
And I went in there prepared in my head.
I go, I started the film from the moment I walked in and I said, because if they catch me doing it and they tell me I can't do it, I'll say, why?
We had an agreement and I just want to make sure I'm covered.
And if they kick me out, great.
There we go.
I'm going to show the world what they tried to do and how I how I fought back.
But they didn't even notice.
They didn't realize.
You know, and the thing is, they waited months.
Nothing came out.
It was actually the Jewish holiday of Kurim, where I was at an event sitting at a table with my rabbi and some Jewish, some community member walks in and Purim, for those of you who don't know, is one where you have a few drinks and it's a fun Jewish holiday.
It's one of the fun ones where you get to drink a lot.
As an Aussie, that is what defines fun.
You've got to drink that much.
you don't know the difference between good and evil.
It's a lie.
Okay.
So what was he trying to get you to say?
What were they trying to position to humiliate you with?
Well, yeah, they were just trying to make it out that, you know, the right and that I specifically, as somebody who's a prominent right-wing online figure, is just a neo-Nazi, loving, Trump-supporting, hate-filled whatever.
And it was just funny that, you know, I left there and months later on that room when some rabbi comes in and some community member goes, oh, did you see your Jim Jeffries?
Oh my God, he made you look bad.
And I'm sitting there going, and I just, I turned to the guy, I go, wait 24 hours.
Just wait for us.
Because I knew I had the things there.
And I went back and I watched it.
And it was, it was probably, It was probably, I guess, worse than I thought because I kind of started to believe them that they weren't going to.
I guess they convinced me.
And I, you know, I had my insurance policy.
But it was worse because it was right after Christchurch, the Christchurch massacre here in New Zealand.
And they waited for that to off the back of that to run this segment that they filmed months ago to connect me to it.
To connect me to the, to the terrorist, to the scumbag who did that awful crime and I just sat there going oh, you know it was.
And as soon as I put it out, you know the rest is history that it was.
You know, even till today I see he's blocked me on and Comedy Central blocked me from a lot of their things.
But um, even till today I still see every time Jim Jeffries does it has anything I always see in the comments there um, and because i'm always tagged in a lot of them where people are still having goes at him about that and that's what is it.
It's a couple years ago now already.
Well, to do something that malicious.
And then like, like I mentioned earlier, the last thing I remember seeing of Jim Jeffries is him on Bill Maher, just clearly drunk, just yelling at and he, he's just flipping off people who disagree with him and like, I get that you're a comedian, but you're on a political show.
At least have some semblance of an opinion to share.
And it's just f you.
If you don't believe uh, agree with me now.
So there's been no contact with him or his team since then.
So we did file a lawsuit at some point.
It was because the the the clock, there was a I can't remember how long we had.
We, according to UH U.
So we filed something in I think it was la but um, the problem was the moment we did that Viacom, which is the company that I owned from, came down with uh, a whole team of lawyers and scared the hell out of uh, my little lawyer that was going to represent me at the time and he was scared for his own license.
So we just ended up dropping it because there was just no no real what, no viable way to take him on.
Not because I was wrong, you know, it was quite obvious.
Anybody watched his segment, watched then the full video, or or me pointing out that video where I point out how they, you know, maliciously edited those things.
It was obvious what they did.
They know what they did.
The video is still up, but it is what it is and I, you know, I don't regret it.
People said, oh.
People afterwards said, oh well, didn't you know that was going to happen?
Why would you even do the interview?
Actually, if I could go back in time, I would do it all again, because that was such an important uh moment where people realize that this is not just a conspiracy that the right wing make up it.
Actually freaking happens, and it happens so brazenly and so disgracefully Gracefully, the only thing I regret, really, is not recording more of the interactions beforehand.
Me with the producers and all that.
You know, if it was me today, that was me a couple of years ago.
And, you know, I was working for TR News.
I didn't have the full support that we have at Rebel and the full team behind me and people that can help.
You know, I didn't have all that.
It was literally me and whatever I did and whatever I thought of.
Tommy Robinson at the time was the one who told me to go and film it.
It was his idea when I told him, although I already had it because I thought it's because he had inspired me.
I'd seen because I was working with Tommy and he'd just done a bunch of those kinds of scenarios.
So as soon as they said, I thought it's a great opportunity.
But Tommy was the first, he goes, make sure to record it.
But no one at the time and my own experience didn't teach me to record every conversation that I had with a producer because that would be lovely.
You know, I would love to be able to show the world that conversation with the producer where I made those two conditions.
Yeah, Tommy.
And where he just straight up lied.
But so where we are today with it, I did follow him.
So I went then to LA to confront him.
You know, I'm not someone that gives up easily.
That was the one outside of his performance, right?
And they, oh, yeah, they faked the entrance or the exit they were coming out of.
Yeah, so first we went to LA.
We went to, yeah, we went to America to confront him.
And he called the FBI, filed a report.
And so I was arrested and deported in LA.
And then so then I figured, all right, I need to find him at a show where I can't get deported.
And I'm also an Israeli citizen.
So I went to Israel.
And yeah, they did a whole decoy when he came.
It was so funny.
And you know what?
It's kind of a game.
And at some point in my life, we will talk again.
And everyone knows me.
I am not in no way violent and never threatening violence.
I just want to see him face to face and for him to acknowledge, not that he was wrong, that I won.
That's all I want.
I want him to acknowledge I won that little, that little cheap shot he took.
Because now it's already the world is.
And it's, you know, people, I think a lot of people learn to listen.
I think a lot of people, I've gotten a lot of messages over the years of people that are inspired by what I did that day, as in when they go to interviews now.
They record it for themselves.
I often see people in the conservative movement who are saying, oh, I've been invited to an interview.
I don't know if I should do it.
And always the comments at the bottom saying, do another Yamini, do another Yamini.
So I'm really happy that I've kind of passed that on, which again, I got, like I said before, I got it from Tommy Robinson from the fact that, you know, people when Trump says the fake news, you know, put words into your mouth or cut things up maliciously.
You know, if you're a Trump supporter or if you're whoever it is, if you're a Tommy Robinson supporter, then you'll just believe him.
But if you don't like Trump, then it's easy to dismiss what he's saying or whoever it is.
It's easy to say, ah, he's just saying that because they made him look bad.
But you can't with my Jim Jeffries one and I saw it also people from across the aisle.
I've seen people who are leftists who don't like me who said Jim Jeffries is an a-hell for what happened that day, which is important because I think this is not a right or left-wing thing.
I think everyone should have the right to freedom of speech, but I also think that any big media company who engages in that kind of practice to one, just make their narrative to suit their narrative, or two, to try demonize somebody with an opposing view, which is exactly what they tried to do with me.
And it wasn't, I don't think it was targeted only at me, it was to demonize all right-wing people.
Look, here's Abby Yamini, who's pretty, who's not, you know, they who they'll call it fringe, but he's not the, you know, skin-haired neo-naz.
They're everywhere.
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They're in sheep's closing everywhere.
And the first ones that just come off the top of my head, if people want to look them up, there's Tommy Robinson with Al Jazeera, there's Tommy Robinson with BBC, there's Alex Jones with Megan Kelly.
So the examples are out there, and you should record your own side of the interview every time.
Always, always.
Everything.
Any, you know, the lesson is record everything.
Better to have it than not to have it.
Record everything.
Every engagement.
When you're talking to people that you disagree with, and I encourage talking to people that you disagree with.
I encourage doing mainstream media interviews.
I don't think we should, I don't think you need to watch them.
I'm not telling you, you know, I watch them because I want to hear what the lies are spinning and I want to be able to confront them.
But I think if I get invited to an interview, I'll do it.
But then I will ensure that I have that insurance policy that if they take me out of context or in any way manipulate what I'm saying, I'm going to be able to show the world.
And not like that, that episode of Jim Jeffries, as big and powerful as Community Central is, my version got a lot more hits.
So that was from Jimmy Walks 2.
That was a long answer to that one question.
We got a pardon?
I was thanking Jimmy for the question.
Okay.
Five minutes.
Let's try to speed through these.
Joanne Doe says, how much do you expect vaccine passports in Australia?
I reckon, so it's interesting because they make a point here to say that they can't mandate vaccines.
They can't force vaccines onto a population because of our legislation.
But in reality, they can.
We have here no jab, no play, no jab, no pay, which is to parents who don't vaccinate their children where the kids essentially you have to homeschool them and you don't get access to welfare and things like that.
You know what?
I think coronavirus has actually made, has created anti-vaxxers, really.
Typically, when we thought of anti-vaxes, we thought of crazy fringe dwellers that were like weird.
I've always been vaccinated.
I've always vaccinated my kids.
It's not something I've ever thought twice about.
But no, I do not want to vaccinate my kids with this COVID vaccine because I just, I'm suspicious.
I don't know.
It hasn't been tried to test.
It's not necessarily that I think that they're inserting a chip to control our minds.
I just don't know how safe this is.
And I just don't think putting it into my child's body, who even if they get coronavirus, poses little to no risk for them.
Why would I inject them with that?
Having said that, yes, I do believe that they're going to make it mandatory to have a vaccine to be able to fly.
And gee, general, I have to, we have to stop the questions at some point.
I talk too much.
At G Generals5 says, do you have a deplatforming plan in case you were, he said inevitably de-platformed?
I've been de-platformed so many times.
I've lost five pages on Facebook, collectively, over a million followers.
And for Australia, if you think about Australia of a population of under 30 million, it was probably the biggest conservative personality on that platform.
And I survived it.
And what I say to people is, you know, Parla's just gone down.
I was loving it.
I had, I think I was getting close to 500,000 subscribers, followers on Parla.
You've got to roll with the punches.
At the end of the day, I'm actually, I'm more hopeful now than I have ever been because until now, it has always been the, you know, the fringes that have been deplatformed.
And then the rest of the conservative movement have kind of just ignored it because they're like, well, they're not me.
And I'm not a Tommy Robinson.
I'm not a Milo.
I'm not a Laura Luma.
I'm not an Alex Jones.
Well, those days are over.
And now all conservatives feel like, and the truth is they are at risk of censorship, of losing their platform.
Or not even platforms, you know, a lot of now every conservative can almost say that without a doubt that one of their posts have been removed from social media.
So they feel the pressure of censorship.
So I think now, maybe in the short term, it's going to be a bit of pain, but in the long term, remember, you know, what is it, 75 million people voted for Trump.
That's just in America.
All of Trump's supporters around the world, we're talking about millions, hundreds of millions.
They need a place.
They're not going anywhere.
They need a place to be able to talk freely on the internet.
And the internet's more and more is shutting them down.
That place will come.
It just, you know, you've got to give it time.
And I believe that my plan today is finally, I feel like the problem is not just mine.
It's ours.
And collectively, we've got people as powerful as Trump and who will fight, who have the means, the ability to fight, whether it's within government and also just financially.
There are real conservative bodies that will ensure that there will be platforms for conservatives.
And we just need to make sure to support them and be there when they're ready.
And that's where I'll be.
And hope to see you all there.
Trying to keep it short.
Try hurt.
Presley 77777 says, Australian or Canadian PM, who is worse?
Who?
The Australian or the Canadian Prime Minister?
Oh, who's worse than this?
The Canadian.
You guys win.
As much as I, it's probably not a fair comparison.
Trudeau's far worse.
I think Scomo's, he's a bit weak, a bit gutless, but he's still got some conservative values.
Trudeau, I don't know.
I reckon a fairer comparison would be Trudeau and Xi Ji Ping.
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This is where we play the Simpsons clip of the Australian Prime Minister sitting in his pool eating a hot dog.
Everything I know about Australia is from The Simpsons.
Sorry to tell you.
So what no more than most.
Last question is from Instagram.
What hair products does Avi use?
That didn't go anywhere.
Hold on, I'll show you.
There was one question on Twitter that said he didn't want to pin us against each other by saying who's got better hair.
So I made sure to style my hair.
Oh, you should get sponsored now.
Rockstar hair.
That's so like rock star.
They couldn't come up with a better name than that.
Come on.
I'll be honest with you.
As my hair has grown through the lockdown and I refuse to cut it, I've had to change.
It's been this brand, but different style stuff every time because as your hair grows, your hair reacts differently to it.
I can't believe I'm talking about this.
Yeah, we're not turning this into a hair product segment, Avi, all right?
We'll clip this for like Instagram or something and we'll give you your hair plug and hopefully that this brand will spawn to you.
That's all the time we have.
That's all the time we've had, Avi.
You've taken up six, I think, six hours now we've been talking.
Thank you, in all seriousness, thank you for being the first guest on my paywall show.
I've been watching you for years now before I worked here, before you worked here, before you worked for Tommy Robinson.
I was always a fan of yours.
I'm happy to know you and thank you.
And I'll let you have the last word.
Thank you, brother.
Good luck.
I'm sure this paywall show will smash it.
Guys, make sure to spread it out.
All right.
Thanks a lot, Abby.
Have a good night.
Thank you for watching.
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