Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science Society critiques Canada’s 2018 carbon tax deal with France, worth just $4B in trade, as economically harmful while exposing France’s climate policy hypocrisy amid protests and reliance on foreign oil. She links the $30M Alberta inquiry to halted $19B pipeline projects, calling it a "green trade war," and debunks flawed IPCC cattle emissions claims, citing Robert Lyman’s report. The April 6th Calgary event, featuring Donna LaFramboise and Dr. Roy Spencer—who disputes climate emergency claims with satellite data—challenges mainstream narratives, accusing groups like Greenpeace of IPCC influence via billionaire funding. CBC’s alleged censorship of dissenting voices underscores the broader push to silence scientific debate in favor of fear-driven policies. [Automatically generated summary]
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Did you know that there is something called a Canada-France climate partnership?
The mainstream media hasn't had a lot to say about it, have they?
I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
The Canada-France Climate and Environment Partnership, as it's known, was signed in 2018.
Under the partnership, the parties have committed to pricing carbon emissions and developing green finance initiatives.
Now, I'm sure you, like me, you haven't heard a lot about this, while our largest trading partner, the United States, is busy repealing regulations and refusing to cripple their own economy with a carbon tax.
Now, Canada instead is making green deals with small trading partners like France to cripple our oil industry back home with a carbon tax.
While Canadians have rebelled against the imposition of a carbon tax, the Liberals in Ottawa were disregarding the will of the people and fighting non-carbon taxing provinces in court because the Liberals signed on to an agreement with France and no one's been talking about it in the mainstream media.
The one really great analysis that I've seen about this climate partnership has been from our friends at Friends of Science Society.
And given the focus on climate change at Davos at the recently concluded World Economic Forum, I thought, let's have them on.
So joining me tonight to talk about the Canada-France Climate and Environment Partnership, all the weirdness at Davos, and several other really great reports being put out by the Friends of Science Society is my friend and good friend to the show, Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science.
Joining me now from Calgary is my friend, Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science Society.
Michelle, it's been a while since you've been on the show and I wanted to have you back on.
There's so much in climate change news to talk about.
The first thing I want to talk about is closer to home.
We often talk about these climate change issues as, you know, this global scheme to control our lives and really it is.
But you guys have a new report out.
It's called Fear and Loathing, and it's on the Alberta inquiry into foreign-funded attacks on Alberta's oil and gas industry and the Canadian natural resource sector as a whole.
And you guys have sort of debunked some of the left-wing myths around it.
Right.
Well, presently, first of all, Happy New Year.
Thanks for having us on the show.
But presently, we see many NDP people are speaking out against the Alberta Inquiry.
Lots of people are saying, oh, it's a waste of $30 million.
They don't seem to notice that their $19 billion in pipeline projects stopped in Canada because of the tar sands campaign.
So last fall, we issued a report called Fear and Loathing, how Alberta went from being a prize, a precious jewel in the Canadian technological and engineering world to a pariah worldwide.
And in it, we simply go step by step through the development of this foreign-funded campaign, which also became a domestically funded campaign, but its roots are in the foreign funding and how it has incrementally damaged our reputation worldwide.
And it's really just a green trade war.
Like, you know, many Canadians are very geopolitically unaware because our closest geopolitical partner is the U.S.
But you know, if you were in Europe and you understood, oh, here it buys all of its oil, gas, and coal from the Middle East and dictator nations.
You know, funny they don't do business with us.
You know, then things start to make a bit more sense if you look at the broader picture.
So that report is out.
We also did a video related to that about Sephora Berman at COP in Madrid, where she was claiming that she's going to get a fossil fuel, what did she call it, like injunction worldwide.
So, you know, these are serious things because, you know, we need fossil fuels.
I'm not an industry advocate.
I'm an advocate for ordinary people.
You're a humanity advocate, I think.
We just went through nearly two weeks of sub-minus 40 degree temperatures.
Without fossil fuels, a great number of us would be dead.
That's just how it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So anyway, those two items are out there.
Hope people have a look at them, consider them.
You don't have to agree with us, of course.
But, you know, I think when you see the bigger picture drawn in those reports and that video, you'll get a sense of really what's going on.
Yeah, you know, when Berman was in Madrid for the UN Climate Change Conference, same time myself and Kian were, she was protesting the Tech Frontier Oil Sands Mine, which has agreements with every Indigenous group that it remotely touches, and even some that it doesn't.
And they did that ahead of time.
And yet Berman shows up there with people from Indigenous groups who are very obviously based on their cultural garb from the West Coast, i.e. Haida Guai.
And they're protesting against the jobs of the Indigenous people in the Fort McMurray area.
It's just very bizarre to watch.
It's like environmental colonialism is what I think it is.
Yeah, it is eco-colonialism.
It is.
And, you know, we live in a society with many conflicting needs and demands.
But a fundamental thing is that people do need energy and they need jobs.
And there's nobody else in our competitors out there who are sacrificing themselves in the way that Canadians are over climate change.
None of them.
So we're in the top five, six, seven, eight competitors in delivery of oil, gas, and coal worldwide.
And whoever it is out there that's crushing our economy, they're doing a very good job.
And a lot of naive Canadians, probably very well-meaning Canadians, are helping them.
So think twice, people.
Wake up.
Yeah, you know, there are some people who are evil in this.
And there are some people who are not evil, but just wrong and sorely misled.
And their opposition might come from a good place, but they don't have all the facts.
Now, speaking of facts and attacks on a major Alberta industry, and I think this all ties together with that global push for veganism, this like this desire from, I don't know, from above smarter people to have us all be malnourished and cold and that we're all just supposed to eat bugs to change the climate.
Cattle Protein Puzzle00:04:27
Robert Lyman has an incredible report out about the domestic cattle industry and how it is not the greenhouse gas criminal that the left, these pro-vegan left would have us believe.
Right.
Well, Robert goes through a lot of the sort of calculations of GHG emissions and such like.
And again, a lot of the criticisms of things like agriculture and the cattle industry come from people who sit in a room and they do math and say, oh, look, these emissions come from there.
But when you look at Albrecht Glatzel's work, and he's worked with the World Federation of Agriculture, he's from Paraguay.
He's an agricultural expert.
You know, he finds that the IPCC never ever did a baseline on the emissions, GHG emissions of feral wild stock.
So like there used to be 60 to 100 million buffalo on the plains before European civilization moved in.
Before we figured out how delicious they were.
Oh, well, I think people were eating them then and they were.
But, you know, there wasn't a baseline ever done by the IPCC.
So a lot of these calculations are, again, completely off base.
And what people don't realize who are calling for veganism is that cattle consume lots of food that people can't eat and they turn it into food that people can't can eat.
I mean, this was always, and you can look at Jared Diamond's work on guns, germs, and steel.
He shows how settled agrarian communities became so capable and powerful compared to some other more nomadic or primitive communities because they didn't have to work so hard for their source of food.
And that food became, you know, domesticated animals.
And fortunately for Western civilization, most of the domesticated livestock or domesticable livestock were in that fertile crescent.
So things like pigs, goats, sheep, horses, cattle.
That's what gave us our strength.
And he compares it to the people in Papua New Guinea who, to get their protein, they have to cut down these huge trees, cut them in half, core them out, take that core, pound it into a powder, dry it, then mix it with water.
By the time they're done, there's no, you know, the energy expended to do that is about equivalent or less than what they get to eat.
So when you have cattle that can go and graze on pasture that you can't eat, you can't eat grass, you know, but they can eat it.
Then you can get milk, then you can get meat.
So, and those are high protein sources of food.
And the cattle themselves actually return the grasslands to good health because they poop everywhere.
You know, it's a self-fertilizing process.
And of course, you know, obviously you have to have some good management skills of the land, but most of our farmers are very well educated today.
You know, they all have BAs and science degrees in agriculture and land management, soil management.
So it's really a science now that's easily 100 years old.
So, you know, the vegans are, if you want to be a vegan, go ahead.
But, you know, I love it when people tell me, oh, well, I live in Norway and veganism is good, or that author from Sweden, Lund University, everyone should be a vegan.
Well, where do you get your vegetables from in winter, girl?
Yeah.
You know, they come on a container ship, on a truck, on a train.
Somebody's bringing them to you and they're being farmed in some warm place.
So that's ridiculous.
You know, that's a great point because a lot of, well, I don't think I know a vegan who doesn't say, well, I am a vegan for this, this, this reason, and it's good for the earth.
And yet they are perfectly fine.
I mean, I don't care if my pineapple comes from somewhere.
I don't think greenhouse gas emissions are bad.
But if you do, then your pineapple that's coming from, you know, the tropics all the way to Norway for your smoothie, you're supposed to care about those things.
I don't.
I think it's great.
But they do care and they say that's one of the reasons they go vegan.
Rural Canada's Climate Reality00:03:04
And yet they can't make that connection.
Perhaps they need more protein in their diet.
And on that point, on that point of pineapples, Lush Cosmetics has always been a virulent hater of the oil sands.
They even put together an Alberta Wild Rose bath bomb at one point and contributed all the money to these tar sands campaigners.
Well, you know, where do they get their pineapples from to make their face mask?
You know, how many eggs do they go through to make some of the things that they so self-righteously discuss about being natural and good to the earth?
Excuse me, you know, all these things are coming from somewhere.
Yeah, I don't know any coconuts that grow around here.
Yeah, we don't have a coconut farm in Alberta.
No.
Moving along, though, on issues facing rural Canada, again, another report out.
I think it was Robert Lyman that did this one also.
And it is about how climate policies disproportionately affect rural Canada.
Now, you know that, and I know that, and I think anybody who has to drive to town to get a jug of milk knows that.
But the numbers were really broken down and using what I thought was an interesting choice: Eastern Canadian communities, because Eastern Canadian communities are tending to vote liberal.
So they're the ones choosing these climate policies, and yet they're the ones being disproportionately hurt by them.
Right.
Well, you know, he did a very interesting report because he looked at three rural communities in the Atlantic region.
So he looked at Cet Ile in Quebec, which has the Alumniere Alouette.
And he looked at Iron Core Company of Labrador City and Newfoundland and Labrador.
And he looked at the Graymont plant in Havelock, New Brunswick.
And some of these communities don't have huge employment.
They not necessarily big loss of employment.
But for instance, the Graymont plant is the third largest producer of lime, which is necessary for cement in North America.
So all of these types of production, aluminum, iron ore, and lime, are extremely CO2 intensive.
And at some point, these climate policies are going to go rolling into those little towns and crush them.
And they will also destroy many of the coordinated industries that rely on these services and products in that region.
So it's something that people don't really think about, especially, you know, again, because of the tar sands campaign, everybody down east is going, yeah, well, you know, so what, Alberta?
You made your own bed, now you have to lie in it.
Well, guess what, gang?
You know, you're in the same bed because effectively the climate change policies in Canada are a threat to Canada.
They will crush our economy and destroy regions.
And we already see that all kinds of rifts are cropping up because of these policies that are destroying regional economies.
Climate Policies and Hidden Costs00:15:15
But it's coming to your town too.
Yeah, and I think the beauty of Albertans is we probably won't say, I told you so.
We'll probably say, okay, great.
Now join us in the fight.
Yes, yes.
We'll say it's not something that people should be happy about.
You know, we're not happy about it.
We don't see it happening there yet, but nobody here will be happy to see other people lose their job.
Yeah, it won't be long before some of the people who chose the feel-goodery of Justin Trudeau's liberals, it won't be long until they're mugged by reality.
And I don't take any pleasure in or joy in it, but I do hope that they can make the connection that this is what you voted for.
So let's never do that again.
Right.
And later on, I want to talk about some of the faulty perceptions within the climate change debate that are driving these extreme policies.
But, you know, once people understand them, they'll realize that we actually don't need to implement those policies to be good to the earth or to save the planet.
But let's continue.
Sure.
I think the next thing I have on my list is the Canada-France climate deal.
Most people outside of you and I and people who eat, sleep, and breathe climate policy because I don't want it to control my life.
I don't think people know what this entails.
The mainstream media has not reported on it.
Can anybody explain to me the irony of Canada signing a climate deal with France when France is embroiled in protests from their people, violent protests where people are showing up with torches and marching in the street because they are resisting the climate policies of France, and yet we're signing a deal with them saying, yeah, you know what, hand in hand, you and me, Canada and France, Trudeau and Macron.
Yeah, well, you know, the climate deal was signed right about the time that Keystone XL suspended, or sorry, that Trans Mountain suspended operations.
And possibly they knew this was coming or maybe the atmosphere was just too difficult for them anyway.
So, you know, Justin Trudeau made a big speech in France about how, you know, his forefather came from France and found opportunity in Canada, la-de-da.
That's great.
But the climate deal actually requires Canada to push carbon trading and push carbon climate policies worldwide.
Now, our biggest trading partner is the United States of America, which does not have a climate policy and which pulled out of the Paris Accord.
And, you know, I think our trade with France is about, you know, 4 billion or something like that.
It's in our video.
I just don't remember off the top of my head.
But our trade with the states is something like 937 billion.
So, you know, what are we doing?
Are we insane?
But then when you look at what France also has, they have this organization called La Francophonie.
And if you recall, there was some controversy some time ago about why are we paying for Michael Jean to be part of La Francophonie and coughing up all these expenses for past governor generals because of La Francophonie.
It's a huge voting block at the UN.
And Canada is part of it because we have French-speaking people.
So it appears, it presents itself as a cultural thing about French language.
But effectively, it's actually controlling a large part of the conversation on climate.
And who does France buy all their oil from?
Despot nations, other than a bit from Norway, you know, but if you look at who they buy oil from, they're buying it from all the people that Canada Action has been critical of, for instance.
So what are we doing?
You know, it's like, let's shoot ourselves in the other foot.
Yeah, but Michelle, those despot nations, some of them actually do speak French, so it's fine.
Yeah, yeah, no, it's pretty interesting.
And have a look at it.
Yeah.
Now, moving on to more global things, because that was pretty global.
Let's talk about another, I suppose he started off as a Canadian bad idea.
Mark Carney.
Yeah.
He was formerly of the Bank of Canada and he wants to change the world currency to fight climate change.
And this is going to cause chaos in economic markets across the globe.
But I suppose the ends justify the means for these people.
Well, we did a video about Mark Carney being appointed as the climate czar at the UN.
Mr. Carney was with Goldman Sachs, a big carbon trading company.
He was with them for 13 years prior to becoming the governor of the Bank of Canada.
And during his time in Canada, his wife was part of Canada 2020 and issued various reports pushing for a carbon price, pushing for carbon trading.
Then he moved over to the Bank of England.
And at the Bank of England, he made a presentation to Lloyds of London, which is quite famous about climate change.
And it's based on this very scary report that was put out and funded by Thomas Steyer and Michael Bloomberg, two green billionaires who've been demarketing fossil fuels worldwide.
At the same time, we understand that Mr. Steyer's fair longevity has been buying coal stocks in Asia while in the front, he's very green.
Anyway, that can be read on Powerline on the Powerline blog.
The epic hypocrisy of Thomas Steyer.
Anyway, so Mr. Carney has recently proposed that perhaps we should move to a digital currency instead of the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world, because he's trying to stabilize European markets.
But this would probably destabilize the world economy.
And particularly today, now that we see the tragic chaos in China regarding coronavirus, you know, the Chinese have been buying up gold and US dollars for a long time.
So they're certainly not going to be part of this digital currency party.
And I believe the underlying method here is to facilitate carbon trading and perhaps even an energy dollar, if you like.
And this all goes back to the ideas of, say, George Mombio, where everyone gets a personal carbon credit every year, a ration.
You know, when you run out of energy credits, you just buy more if you have money.
Anyway, so, you know, I think it's important that people are aware of this move.
And one of the things that Mr. Carney has actually promoted is Facebook's proposed Libra digital currency.
And that was the only one that he singled out in one of his speeches in Kansas last year.
So, you know, then it makes sense to me now why perhaps Facebook has been limiting and censoring any articles that say there's no climate emergency or articles that say that Australian bushfires are not caused by climate change, but rather poor forestry management.
Because if your currency, digital currency's future relies on climate catastrophe, of course you're going to promote that.
And, you know, in a free society, you should be able to promote it, but you should be pretty transparent about it.
I don't think that's happening.
No, that was one thing I learned from one of your videos.
Sometimes there's so much Facebook censorship happening, it's hard to stay on top of who exactly is the target today.
But I did learn that from one of your videos that wildfire facts about the Australian wildfire were being censored by Facebook and Facebook fact checkers because it doesn't comport with the narrative that this is climate change induced and not arson and poor forest management.
Right.
Well, there's a group in the States called Pointer Institute, and they're supposedly dedicated to journalism, inquiry, and free speech and how important it is.
And they run this organization called the International Fact Checking Network, which is made up of various people around the world who supposedly check on facts.
And they have subgroups of this.
They have health feedback and climate feedback and science feedback.
So the idea is good.
But of course, what's happened is in the climate feedback world, you've got a whole bunch of people who are on the climate change catastrophe mantra.
And so when anything doesn't fit that parameter, they come out with that.
Now, Facebook has partnered with them in a Facebook integrity project.
The words don't mean anything anymore.
And, you know, most major media, including CBC, we've also got an item on CBC on our blog.
If the International Fact Checking Network says this is BS, then that's it.
That's what they go with.
They don't ask any more questions.
They have no sense of looking in to see if there's an agenda there.
And that's not journalism.
No, and you and I were talking off camera about how some of these reports just make it into the ethos.
And then so the insurance companies will adopt a report that says, oh, you know, the world's going to end in 12 years or whatever the doomsday clock is at right now.
And they'll adopt that.
And then the banking industry will point at the insurance industry and say, see, the world's going to end in 12 years because the insurance industry says so.
And then the governments will point at the banks and say, okay, see, the world's going to end now because the banks and the insurance agencies both say that the world's going to end.
And they both care about mitigating the risk.
So we better do it too.
But nobody ever stops to examine the report.
Nobody.
It just gets adopted.
And then the circle of Lent credibility just goes around and around and around.
And then we're all just supposed to believe it, but nobody ever goes back to the original report.
And I think that takes us to Roger Pielke Jr. did go back to the original report.
And he's got a couple of articles on Forbes recently that are very good.
And again, he talks about how Thomas Dayer and Michael Bloomberg co-sponsored this risky business report, which used Some climate simulations, one of them being the registrated concentrated representative concentrated pathway 8.5.
And this, you can see this on the cover of the IPCC SR 1.5 report that Greta Thunberg is always quoting.
There's an artistic representation of it.
And you'll see that there is this one line that goes way up, and then there's one sort of in the middle, and then there's one sort of here, and then there's one down there.
So this would be 8.5, this is 2.6, this is 4.5, and that's 6.2 or something, 6.0.
Anyway, so this one, according to PLK, is totally ridiculous.
It's unrelated to reality because this one, the 8.5 at the top, is a world where everyone is using coal again as we used to do.
Now, on that graph that I described, you know, we're about here, so we're way below that.
That's where we presently are.
And these projections were never meant to be used in this way.
They're simply simulations that scientists were using as a way to evaluate potential changes.
But they rely on many socioeconomic factors, not just one thing, not just CO2 and not just fossil fuels.
For instance, the 2.6, which Greta is pushing for, is a world with 3 billion less people.
So imagine the implications.
Yes.
So now you can understand some of the implications of that.
People like Extinction Rebellion, the voluntary extinction, humanity extinction project, you know, people who are running around with signs saying, kill me, I want to save the planet.
You know, this insanity is coming from these modeled projections that have nothing to do with reality and should never ever be used this way.
So that's on the front cover of the IPCC report.
It's integral to this report that Bloomberg and Steyer put together or funded.
And that has become embedded in scholarly documents.
So now it's just part of mainstream media thinking when it has actually no relation to reality.
And this is the report that Mark Carney used when he talked with Lloyds of London, you know, that this tragedy of the horizon, we're not going to be around long enough to see this big catastrophe, so we have to change everything completely now.
It's a catastrophe that's from someone's imagination.
It has nothing to do with reality.
So as you say, all these people have lent each other credibility by repeating and citing this.
And, you know, there's now one group in the world, Clintel, the climate intelligence group out of the Netherlands, who they've now put together 800 scientists, more than 800 scientists, who say there's no climate emergency and let's stop, take a step back, and stop scaring our kids, stop scaring the public, and stop trying to reach net zero by 2050 because everybody will be dead.
Like these are really serious implications from these crazy climate policies.
And they all originate with that report.
You know, it doesn't do much to help my conspiracy-minded side.
You know, my conspiracy-minded side is always like these Democrat billionaires want us all dead.
They want us cold, frozen.
They want, you know, they literally want the poor people to just vaporize off the earth.
And then they cite reports that require the numbers to do just that.
It's very, it's very chilling and scary.
And it, like I said, it doesn't do much to quell my conspiracy-minded side.
Climactic Fears Manipulated00:05:59
I want to talk about Davos because, like most global elitist parties, it just turned into another climate change shindig and we just had one a couple months ago.
That's all anybody could talk about while they were there is climate change.
It's all anybody can talk about it, the G20.
It's all anybody can talk about at any UN function.
And the World Economic Forum was no different.
They had Greta Thunberg there being just a truant brat again, telling grown-ups what to do.
Like, as a mom, I'm running out of patience with this kid.
I just think she's a brat.
And not particularly all that special because she's a typical teenager who thinks she knows it all.
And Davos is more than happy to listen to her and not listen to the 800 scientists at Clintel who actually know something about something.
Like they're listening to a little girl who quit school and not listening to these dissenting scientists.
Well, and you can see why, because, you know, first of all, I want to say I think that Greta herself honestly and sincerely believes this.
I think that she is completely terrified of the potential for catastrophe.
And, you know, that's thanks to Al Gore, because in 2009, in the book Factfulness, Hans Rosling says Al Gore told him in 2009, we have to create fear.
You know, and Rosling was a global medical specialist working on medical policy worldwide and a medical doctor.
And he said, you know, fear is like the worst thing that you can use because it will drive you into making dangerous and really bad decisions.
And he gives lots of examples in his book.
So, you know, Greta speaking there herself, I think she totally sincerely, honestly believes it.
But who's behind her?
You know, Kien did that report when he went to Sweden to try and find out.
Well, there's this huge group of green billionaires and this woman named Corey Morganstar has done a fabulous investigative research on the manufacturing of Greta Thunberg.
Like this little girl is being used and exploited, child exploitation by these green billionaires.
That's how she gets on the stage there, because those guys are part of the Davos clique.
So, you know, what can be a better way to get the public to move toward a digital currency, to agree to have their freedoms totally eclipsed by climate policy, to agree to have their economies destroyed by climate policy than having this young woman speak from the heart with all sincerity to a bunch of billionaires who just flew in on their private jets.
You know, so, and again, the Clintel group has said it's a crime to make children afraid of their future.
And if you read the factfulness book by Rosalind, you'll see that everywhere around the world, things are better for everyone, much better.
There's still lots of inequality, but much, much better.
Things are always improving.
And so that's not something that Greta even knows about.
So it is really a tragedy that we're being bamboozled by these people who put together that report that now has inculcated all of Western society with fear of an apocalyptic ending, something that's not going to happen, because that's not what the evidence shows.
Right.
There's something especially sinister about playing on the fears of children.
My 13-year-old daughter probably feels like she's going to die every time I take her cell phone away.
Now, what if the head of Rogers said to her, you know what?
You are going to die if she takes that cell phone away.
You will literally drop dead.
Maybe not now, but in 12 years, you're going to drop dead if your mother takes your cell phone away.
Rogers would sell a hell of a lot of cell phones to some young people if they were able to convince young people that they were going to die if their mothers took their cell phone away.
That's very similar to what Greta is experiencing right now.
And I know it sounds crazy, my comparison, but it's pretty much the same if you're a grown-up looking at it with clear eyes.
Sure.
And if you look at their perspectives for the group, We Don't Have Time, that's what they named their organization.
Figure mongering there.
You find that they have attached themselves.
You know, they've got a big global agency.
They're doing a huge social engineering project.
And the main thrust is that they're selling carbon offsets.
So they're using Greta as a walking ad to sell their carbon offset trading deals.
You know, and ironically, in the perspective, they say, and advertisers may have sort of, you know, future opportunities with social media influencers like Greta when she grows up.
Well, you know, if we're all going to die in 12 years, what?
I thought you guys said we're all going to die in 12 years.
Now you're saying when she grows up, you can cash in on Greta.
Like that is so sick.
And also, you know, what a perverted thinking to put out there to the public.
So yeah, there's we do have time, you know, and that's what the Clintal group is saying.
We do have time.
We shouldn't rush into these things.
We should take a step back and we should stop scaring children, especially, and stop scaring the public.
It's a crime.
Now, I've taken up quite a bit of your time this morning, but I wanted to talk about the new event that Friends of Science Society is planning.
And let me just say off the hop, friends and listeners at home, viewers at home, if you've never gone to a Friends of Science Society event, I cannot recommend it enough.
It's always a packed house.
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The food is great.
The company is great.
The speakers are incredible.
And you're going to hear ideas that you will not hear in the mainstream media because they're unafraid.
And the science speaks for itself.
Right.
Well, this year it's going to be on April the 6th.
It's at the Red and White Club in Calgary.
And we're going to have Donna LaFranboise speaking on freedom of speech.
And we're going to have Dr. Roy Spencer speaking on 10 Reasons Why There's No Climate Emergency.
So it's called Freedom of Speech, No Climate Emergency.
And Donna will be addressing the fact that climate change activists really want all your freedoms and they're incrementally employing new and new laws, new legislation, you know, more bins to compost, more restrictions on where your car can park, more restrictions on whether or not you can fly and such like on and on and on.
They're gradually taking your freedoms away.
And actually, she just did an article rebutting the Winnipeg free press.
Free press.
Wasn't that ironic?
Which wrote an article saying it's time to silence deniers.
Now, of course, that may be influenced by the fact that in Winnipeg, they have the Prairie Climate Center, which instead of pushing climate information, is pushing wind and solar, ironically, and is funded by one of the, used to be funded by Great West Life, which was owned by PowerCorp.
I don't know if it still is, but you know, you see these connections, you go, hmm.
Anyway, yes.
And Dr. Roy Spencer, he was with NASA, and he's an award-winning scientist.
He's now a principal researcher at University of Alabama, Huntsville.
And he and John Christie run all the satellite data from there.
And they're the ones who show that there's really no change in global temperatures according to the satellite data.
So, where's the catastrophe?
You know, that's great because you're bringing in people who actually are studying the data that the climate change activists are distorting to push their own agenda.
It's very great.
Again, you're going to the source report or source reporter, I guess, in this instance, instead of just buying the spin three people out.
It's like the game of telephone, right?
It is the game of telephone.
Yes.
And, you know, and Donna, may I mention she also wrote the book, The Delinquent Teenager.
So it's kind of funny that we have Greta at Davos because the delinquent teenager is about how the IPCC acts like a delinquent teenager where they won't clean up their room.
So they've been criticized on many, many issues over the years and they haven't fixed it.
And when Donna was here, she showed that Greenpeace and World Wild Fund leading members, legends, are influencing the IPCC reports.
And who funds Greenpeace and World Wild Fund for a lot of money?
The Oak Foundation, one of the tar sands partners, you know, the Rockefellers.
All these big foundations have been funding Greenpeace and World Wild Fund, and these guys are influencing the IPCC reports that your local, provincial, and federal governments base their climate policies on.
So I don't, I see a huge conflict of interest there.
I'm sure many other people do.
So people should read her book and follow her blog.
It's a big pick, big picture.
So.
Now, how do people get tickets to the event?
And more importantly, if they can't make the event, how do they support the good work that you guys at Friends of Science Society do?
Thanks.
Well, to get to our event, you can get a ticket on Eventbrite.
You can go to our homepage, and there's a link from our homepage directly to the Eventbrite ticketing process.
And we do have a student rate as well, if kids and young adults are interested.
So it's going to be April 6th, 6 p.m. at the Red and White Club in Calgary.
We offer a full buffet.
Then we have our two speakers.
We have a break in the middle where you can pick up some bling.
And we have all kinds of bits and pieces, books, DVDs, and such like.
And it's just a really nice evening.
So I hope people will take advantage of it.
And that's at friendsofscience.org.
Yes.
And if you want to support us, we also have a donate button there, donate membership.
So please feel free.
We'd love to have some help.
Yeah, I'm astounded at the work that Friends of Science can do with your shoestring budget and your videos.
For a small Canadian science-focused YouTube channel, you guys are getting on some videos nearly a million views.
Half a million views.
A video you did the other day has 70,000 views.
I think that's great.
You're reaching a lot of people because I think you have sort of a bit of a rebel journalistic mission in that we say we like to tell the other side of the story.
That's exactly what you guys are doing.
So I recommend everybody subscribe to Friends of Science YouTube channel.
If you're looking for a place where you can get layman's terminology of complex scientific issues that environmentalists are counting on you not to understand, go to the Friends of Science YouTube channel.
You'll get a ton of arguments that you can take out, take into the world with you.
Yes, well, we do try to present a plain language version.
We also back it up with the scientific material.
And so, you know, we're not trying to bamboozle people.
We want people to understand sort of these fundamental principles.
And yeah, we're very happy with, you know, our YouTube audience is very responsive.
And we also try to respond when we can to comments on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter.
So, you know, we advocate for open civil debate on climate and energy policies.
That's what's missing right now.
Because I think if we had open civil debate, a lot of the hysterical rhetoric would calm right down and people would be making more thoughtful, incremental changes rather than some of these vast sweeping changes that people are coming up with that are really detrimental, especially to middle class and poor people.
It will crush the middle class.
Well, that's exactly why people like, I guess, the Winnipeg Free Press want to shut you up because, you know, they can't win the debate.
Michelle, I've taken up so much of your time today.
I want to thank you for coming on the show.
We shouldn't leave it this long before you're back on again.
And this is a place where you can come on and talk as long as you want without me ever trying to shut you up.
Yes, thank you.
I really, really appreciate that.
All of us do.
All of us and all of our members appreciate that.
Thank you so much, Sheila.
The ever-growing choir of scientific minds dissenting from the theory of human-induced global warming are being shut out of the debate, which means it's really not much of a debate anymore when only one side is allowed to talk.
The same thing is happening to those nerdy number crunchers who disagree with the concept that making people poorer through taxes will somehow change the weather.
That's crazy when you say it out loud, isn't it?
You know, you'll scarcely see these people with articles published in mainstream media outlets, even though their opinions, frankly, are pretty mainstream.
And you will absolutely never see them on a panel as a counterbalance at the CBC.
In fact, we know at the CBC, it's official policy to not have so-called deniers on at all.
And that's why I love what Friends of Science is doing.
They're going completely around the gatekeepers of legacy media and speaking directly to the people through their YouTube channel.
Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.
I'll see everybody back here in the same time in the same place next week.