Sheila Gunn Reid exposes Environment Minister Catherine McKenna’s 2022 carbon tax promises to U.S. billionaires—like anti-oil activist Tom Steyer—contradicting public claims, while $2.65B in climate aid to foreign nations lacks transparency. Kian Bexti details PMO staffer Terry Guillain’s physical intimidation and press gallery collusion to silence reporters questioning Alberta’s pipelines or Section 13. Kim Campbell’s divisive tweet about Hurricane Dorian and her vetting role highlight media accountability risks, underscoring journalism’s need for fearless scrutiny over government-aligned narratives. [Automatically generated summary]
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Well, Environment and Climate Change Minister Catherine McKenna has flip-flopped more than a trout being plucked from a lake when it comes to confirming whether the carbon tax will increase in the years ahead.
But thanks to the due diligence of Sheila Gunnreid, we now have an answer.
If the Liberals are given another mandate, that carbon tax will almost certainly increase.
Just waiting to hear the nitty-gritty pertaining to this story.
And remember that bully in the employee of the Prime Minister's office who body checked our own Kian Bexte a while back simply because Kian was practicing journalism?
Well, that goon might just be getting his just desserts.
Kian has the full story.
And finally, letters, we get your letters, we get your letters every minute of every day, and I'll share some of your responses regarding that outrageous and odious tweet by ex-Prime Minister for a Day, Kim Campbell, who was actually rooting for Hurricane Dorian to touch down at Mar-a-Lago.
You know, because that's where the U.S. president sometimes resides.
Needless to say, very few of you were impressed by this latest example of Trump derangement syndrome.
Those are your rebels.
Let's round them up now about all the flip-flopping McKenna was completely honest with her new American friends about her plans for our carbon tax.
And it is here in black and white for all of us to see.
On page 151, we see the Liberals confirming plans to raise the carbon tax after 2022, just like the Conservatives are saying the Liberals will do here.
The overall approach will be reviewed in 2022 to ensure that it is effective and to confirm future price increases.
Confirm future price increases.
Not contemplate, not assess, but confirm.
The hike in the carbon tax if the Liberals are re-elected is a sure thing, a done deal.
It's confirmed.
So this is proof McKenna was telling foreign billionaires one thing while she was telling the Canadian public another.
You just can't trust a single word she says.
McKenna's intentions were and remain to raise the Liberals' carbon tax on everything.
So when it comes to the carbon tax, not only does Catherine McKenna flip-flop more than a trout pulled from the lake, she also talks out of both sides of her mouth.
Indeed, it is getting so that it's almost impossible to believe anything that this so-called climate crusader says.
So it's a good thing that we have our very own Sheila Gunn Reed doing the digging that is so necessary when it comes to finding out what the true intentions are of this Liberal government, especially when it comes to the climate file.
And joining me now is the host of The Gun Show.
Welcome to Rebel Roundup, Sheila.
Hey, David, thanks for having me on.
Well, thank you again for joining me.
So Sheila, it looks like a done deal.
Should the Liberals get re-elected, life in Canada is going to get a lot more expensive for Canadians thanks to a carbon tax that will surely escalate.
Am I correct?
You are correct.
Now, if you're listening to Catherine McKenna, she doesn't know, or not that she doesn't know, but she can't keep her story straight.
She's flip-flopped several times on this.
She said that, oh, maybe we're going to reassess if it's going to go up or not.
Maybe we've capped it at $50 per ton in 2022, or maybe it's not going to go up at all, or maybe it's going to go up.
Well, I know through access to information that she told a group of American billionaires, the Silicon Valley censor type and Tom Steyer, an anti-oil billionaire who's been funding a lot of the activism against Keystone XL pipeline from Alberta through to the U.S., that the carbon tax will definitely go up in 2022 if the Liberals are re-elected.
She told them that she's something to the effect of confirming price increases, not reassessing, not pondering, not analyzing, but confirming that her carbon tax is going to go up in 2022.
So she's off telling anti-oil billionaires one thing while she can't keep her story straight in Canada.
But I mean, really, who would want a campaign on making the cost of literally everything more expensive for all Canadians?
You know, Sheila, let's talk about the Silicon Valley California billionaires.
I find this angle absolutely fascinating.
I don't understand it, to tell you the truth.
I would dare wager that most Canadians, ordinary Canadians, don't understand this.
Why is it that somehow the development of the Canadian oil and gas industry that these California billionaires have a dog in this race in the first place?
What is the agenda here, Sheila?
Well, really, on some level, it's protecting the American market share.
We see a lot of foreign-funded anti-oil activism.
They're dumping money into Canada, into our NGOs, and then they are waging legal battles to stop Canadian pipelines.
All the while, our friends in the United States keep exporting oil, drilling for oil.
And it's making a lot of people rich in the United States.
On the other hand, though, you see a lot of the same activism directed at American pipelines.
A lot of the same people and the same money was involved in blocking the Dakota Access Pipeline project.
That pipeline sat in limbo for quite a few years while Obama was in power.
And then once Trump came into power, he cleaned it up, signed the pipeline into life.
And I think it was about 120 days later, it was pumping oil.
It's really quite magical to see a timeline that fast for a pipeline when it can take up to 10 years here.
But yeah, our Canadian politicians, McKenna specifically, this was a three-day junket to California in 2017 to the San Francisco area mostly.
And when she went, I wanted to know what the heck she was saying to these people, why she was going to meet with them.
Because as we know, California likes to paint itself as one of the greenest states in the entire union when, you know, we know as Canadians, some of the, if you think oil is dirty, some of the most carbon-intensive oil on the continent actually comes out of California, comes out of Bakersfield.
And so while they're building wind turbines and putting up solar farms, California is still drilling for oil and emitting carbon dioxide too.
But this isn't really about the Californians, isn't it?
It's really about blocking the Canadian economy and the furnace of the Canadian economy, us here in Alberta.
And that is exactly the point where I'm so flummox, Sheila.
If this was any other sovereign nation that these California billionaires were going to, saying, excuse me, but can you kindly dismantle your own oil and gas industry?
Can you bring in odious bills like Bill C-69 and maybe even put your nation into a recession, for goodness sakes?
They certainly wouldn't get the ear of anyone.
And yet here we have McKenna, as you said, going over there, spending days, I guess, getting lectured to.
I mean, is it just because this fits into the Liberals' virtue signaling agenda that they're all about greenness too and the way to achieve greenness is A, curtail projects and B, tax Canadians?
You make a very interesting point there.
The Russians would love for us to do the same thing.
Gazprom would love for Canadian gas producers to stop pumping gas, to stop drilling for gas, to stop fracking.
GazProm would love that.
Why The CLA Fights For McKenna00:05:45
But if Gazprom asked us to do that, we'd lose our minds.
We'd be saying things like Russian collusion, Russian interference in the Canadian economy.
But if Californians do it under the auspices of being green, then we're more than happy to do it.
And we go there and then we brag about how far we're willing to go to damage our own economy, just a virtue signal to these American billionaires.
And here's the second lose of the lose-lose argument of what's happening in Canada right now, Sheila.
On another commentary, you noted that some $2.65 billion this year alone, because as you noted, more is coming next year if these Trudeau liberals get reelected, is going to the developing nations of the world for their climate change strategies, whatever they may be.
So in other words, we are basically committing economic Harry-Carry out in the oil patch and then somehow finding almost $3 billion this year alone to give to other nations to do some climate change.
I don't know, because in some cases the details aren't released and even the name of the recipient isn't released.
It's to be determined later.
Sheila, what's going on with Justin Trudeau being so outrageously generous with our money to others when the veterans are evidently asking for too much?
We have Indian reserves where the water is undrinkable.
We have cities in Canada pouring raw sewage into the ocean.
I mean, we don't even have it right in terms of our fiscal priorities.
How can that be justified, these billions of dollars, to other nations?
Well, and I can't see where there's any accountability.
Like you pointed out, this is $2.65 billion.
It's going to be reassessed and going up in 2020 if these people are re-elected.
We don't know where it's going.
We don't know who it's going to.
We don't know what sort of accountability measures are taking place on the ground to make sure that this doesn't end up in the hands of some warlord or gangster or corrupt developing world autocrat.
We don't understand.
There's none of that in these documents.
And in some instances, it's just like a blank line that the money's been sent or allocated, but we don't know for what.
And we don't know what these projects look like.
They say it's going to combat climate change, but what does that even mean?
How do you fight the weather in these places?
I think a lot of the developing world needs electricity.
You know, when you need garbage pickup, if you actually want tangible things done to make the environment around these people, these people who deserve better, cleaner, then what about water treatment?
Well, you know, like you pointed out, we don't have a lot to talk about when we're talking about water treatment, because many of Canada's First Nations reserves don't have potable or drinkable turn on the, a lot of them are under boil water advisories or no drink altogether, advisories.
And we're pumping sewage into the ocean both in the East and in the West.
Yet all these funds are flowing out of Canada and we're in more debt than ever before.
Yeah, unbelievable.
I mean there should be an outcry.
And one last point on that nature, Sheila.
Yes, a couple of days ago a story broke which I found perversely amusing, which was the Canadian Civil Liberties Association.
They're going to try to get Ontario's so-called sticker rack shut down.
That's where gas stations must put up a sticker indicating what the carbon tax has done to the cost of a liter of gasoline.
First of all, I find it funny that this is such an issue that the Canadian Civil Liberties Association would go to bat for.
And secondly, in the story I read and I laughed out loud at this sentence the Liberties group says it is it was.
In its filing.
It was unable to find a single gas station owner willing to fight the law, despite its diligent attempts.
So it's going to war for, I guess, a constituency that isn't even interested in war.
What is your take on this, Sheila?
You know you and I were talking off air.
What a strange hill to die on, and if I worked in the cigarette industry I would fight it.
I would be so happy that the Civil Liberties Association is taking this on, because you know then what?
What's the snowball effect of this?
Oh well, maybe we don't have to have those horrible stickers on a package of cigarettes.
You know the Civil Liberties Association is actively lobbying against transparency, against the public knowing exactly where their dollars are going.
I know, here in Alberta I don't know about Ontario, but on our gas pumps we can see what portion goes to federal gas tax provincial, and what portion is actually the cost of fuel.
So what's the difference?
If you just show people how much the carbon tax is adding to their cost per liter, I don't understand What the problem is with a consumer knowing exactly what they're paying for it, like you said, it's a very, very bizarre position to take against transparency.
Parliamentary Press Gallery Controversy00:13:32
Well, Sheila, I think you nailed it.
We've got to wrap here, but maybe that's what this is all about.
These are people at the Canadian Civil Liberties Association vying for a job with the Liberal Party if they get re-elected, given their anti-transparency position.
Oh my goodness.
It's no wonder Mad Magazine went out of business last month, Sheila.
This is beyond parody this stuff.
Listen, thank you so much, Sheila, and we'll all be looking forward to your further reports.
Thank you again.
You got it, David, but thanks for having me on.
You got it.
And that was Sheila Gunread somewhere in the province of Alberta.
Keep it here, folks.
More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.
You may know him, Terry Guillain.
He body-checked a reporter in a hockey rink a few months ago.
It was yours truly, actually.
He body-checked me as I was covering the Prime Minister arriving at an Indigenous conference in Meadow Lakes, Saskatchewan.
He wasn't very well received, and I guess my coverage wasn't the kind of coverage that Terry Guillain and his friends at Justin Trudeau's PMO are used to.
Katie Telford is used to demanding positive op-eds whenever they need a little boost in the polls, but they don't normally get that from me, so they don't want me anywhere near the Prime Minister.
Normally, they resort to methods like kicking me out of the embassy.
Normally, they collude the Parliamentary Press Gallery and the PMO to make sure that non-sanctioned media are not allowed anywhere near the PM.
Don't take my word for it.
Take the word of this young PMO staffer who admitted it on camera.
The Prime Minister's office has agreed with the Canadian Press Gallery that your organization's views are not welcome.
So that's all I have.
They'll get you to leave.
But I just wanted to say that.
So the Prime Minister's office determines who can and cannot cover Canadian politics in the Canadian embassy event, and you are also not an accredited journalist in the Canadian Press Gallery at a Canadian media event, and that's why.
So that's spectacularly disappointing.
So they will let you escort you out.
I don't appreciate that tone as I'm being respectful with you.
You're not being respectful.
If you're being respectful, you'd let me cover my prime minister.
Now, when that doesn't work out for them, when they can't keep me out through administrative ways, they resort to using physical force to intimidate reporters.
That's what Terry Guillain does.
Yep, that is indeed how this thug rolls.
But thankfully, the RCMP is referring the case against this Trudeau staffer to prosecutors.
And joining us now is the recipient of Terry's body check, none other than our roving reporter, Kian Bexti.
Welcome to Rebel Roundup, Kian.
Hey, David.
Hey, you know, Kian, I've been doing some thinking about this, and maybe this is your fault, Kian.
I mean, after all, you engaged Terry at a hockey rink.
So given the venue, maybe it was expected of you to wear a helmet and shoulder pads while covering this conference.
Oh, absolutely.
I think that goes without saying.
Whenever you cover any sort of liberal, they're predisposed to getting violent.
I mean, Trudeau's especially.
Well, John Kretchan, when he grabbed that protester for one, but also Trudeau's dad, he's just the apple doesn't fall far from the tree there.
Trudeau's dad sicked his bodyguards on a Globe and Mail reporter in 1983, doing basically the same thing after that Globe reporter asked unsanctioned questions, which is what I was doing.
And the Liberals, particularly the Trudeau's, just won't have anything to do with that.
You know, Kian, whatever happened, I thought one of the unofficial slogan of the left, especially these days, is love Trump's hate.
I mean, the idea that we're all supposed to have an inclusive big tent discussion on things, settle our differences this way, as opposed to using fists and one's shoulders to take out a reporter that is asking questions that they deem to be a little too pesky.
So what is the reality here, given that this is what they claim they're all about, the love and the civility, and when we face the reality, which is outright violence?
Well, the reality is the liberals just don't want questions asked, and they will resort to whatever it takes to make sure that dear leader Trudeau is not embarrassed.
It could be, I mean, you have the same experience with the Parliamentary Press Gallery.
They like to use administrative reasons to keep us away from important people who we need to ask important questions to, be it Christia Freeland, be it the Minister of Defense, be it Justin Trudeau.
They'll say, oh, you can't come here because the Parliamentary Press Gallery hasn't sanctioned you to be here.
But if we get in some other way, or the Parliamentary Press Gallery, maybe they don't have jurisdiction there.
Well, then they resort to violence because there's absolutely no way they will accept Justin Trudeau being asked a tough question.
That's just not in their playbook.
Yeah, but you know what, Keen?
I mean, if they didn't want the prime minister to embarrass himself, wouldn't they just simply confine him to quarters?
I mean, I think of all the embarrassing things that he's done, such as his answer at that town hall where he called mankind people kind, going on that trip to India, which became a perverse example of show and tell Indian style.
This wasn't the doing of any reporters.
This is his own self-mutilation, if you will.
We're just trying to report what's going on there.
Brings to mind the old saying, don't shoot the messenger.
Yeah, don't shoot the messenger is right here.
And I think Terry Guillain, in particular, needs to hear that message.
He, like you mentioned before, he used to be the head of the Parliamentary Press Gallery.
And I really think he's the nexus between Trudeau's PMO and the Parliamentary Press Gallery because he moved sort of laterally in his career from the PPG to the PMO.
And it really illustrates the incestuous relationship there.
And I really don't think that Terry Guillain ever really left the Parliamentary Press Gallery when he went to the PMO.
I think he just sort of merged the two organizations.
He has absolutely no time for reporters who are not mainstream corporate or government media.
Unless you're Rosemary Barton, you don't get to have one-on-one chats with the Prime Minister.
It's despicable.
And it's Terry Guillain who is at the center of this.
Trudeau's media lead liaison, or Trudeau's media advance lead, I think is his title.
And he's the one that's body checking reporters.
He's the one that's colluding with the Parliamentary Press Gallery to make sure the reporters can't get in who aren't sanctioned.
It all comes back to Terry Guillain, and he might be paying the piper here if prosecutors decide to finally press charges on this criminal.
You know, Kean, I think that's a very profound point you've made about his previous connection with the Parliamentary Press Gallery.
And it's simply this.
The Parliamentary Press Gallery, as its name implies, is made up of journalists.
These are people who you would think are all about free speech, freedom of expression, putting elected officials on the carpet with pointed questions.
And yet it's like they've all drunk the liberal Kool-Aid that they're supposed to be polite and almost facilitators of the liberal message.
And maybe that's going to even intensify more so, Kian, when those $600 million worth of paychecks to print media start finding their way into the mail from the PMO's office.
Again, I'm rambling on here, but this really makes Terry Guillain all the more despicable in my books because he is going against the credo of what he should be standing up for.
And I like to compare it to the Americans.
I was just at the White House yesterday, actually, working with the press gallery there, the press corps.
And their number one mantra is ask questions, ask questions.
And they can enjoy the First Amendment there.
They are given the ability to do their job.
Sometimes they don't do it very well.
Sometimes there is bias there.
But it's different there compared to Canada because they are never hindered in doing their job.
They are always facilitated, like the president will always do his very best to make sure that they're able to do their job as poorly as they do do it.
Here in Canada, it's the other way around.
We're not allowed to do our job.
We are being roadblocked whenever we get to, you know, I've shown up to press conferences with Trudeau in Ottawa when he was announcing Transmountain Pipeline, the nationalization of that.
I showed up to the press conference.
I went to go in.
I'm from Alberta.
I'm someone and I report to people who are going to be most affected by this decision.
And the only people that they let in were reporters from Ottawa who weren't really asking any questions other than, oh, did you consult Indigenous people on this decision?
Or are you going to continue to consult Indigenous people?
They don't ask any questions about Alberton's jobs, the people who are out of work, or if Justin Trudeau has really any honest plans on how to get shovels in the ground, especially in light of this, these six appeals that are coming in from the Court of Appeal that the government just didn't stand up to.
They didn't file any documents in regards to that.
And that's something that we could have asked about at that press conference, but we weren't allowed in.
Now I'm the one rambling, but just the difference between the United States, Washington Press, and Canadian Ottawa Press is just so stark.
And it's because our press corps, our parliamentary press gallery, has this incestuous relationship with the Prime Minister's office.
It's despicable, it's disgusting, and the PPG should be, you know, it should be dissolved as far as I'm concerned.
And you know, when you raise the idea of the First Amendment, Kean, my only dealings with the parliamentary press gallery was back in June when my cameraman Efren and I went to Ottawa and we wanted to cover the hearings about reinstating essentially Section 13, which was something Stephen Harper got rid of, thankfully, in 2013.
And this section in the Canadian Human Rights Act, it's best described as the anti-First Amendment.
This is all about a clause where you can put in a claim for hurt feelings if you hear something that you disagree with or something that upsets you.
It's a terrible, terrible thing to be brought back.
And the irony was so perverse.
We drove all the way to Ottawa from Toronto.
They could have told us ahead of time they were not going to give us press credentials.
Instead, waited till we got there, which I think was deliberately spiteful.
And secondly, why?
Why would you pick and choose what media is going to go into a committee hearing, which is about bringing in censorship legislation, which you guys, as members of the press, seem to be in support of.
I mean, Kian, this is beyond parody.
And it adds to your point how there's almost a collusion, it would seem, with the journalistic establishment and the prime minister's office.
And I think we're in for even darker days when you see these kind of Section 13s potentially coming back.
You're right.
I think your point about showing up and arriving there and them being purposely vindictive about it, I think that's absolutely true.
And I've had that same experience with them.
Yeah, they are personally vindictive.
And I don't want people to misunderstand what I'm saying here when I'm saying the PMO and the Parliamentary Press Gallery collude.
This isn't an opinion of mine.
We have proof of this.
When I was recording, a Trudeau staffer, a PMO official, a very young guy who probably didn't understand really what he was saying.
He didn't know that this probably should be kept as secret as possible.
He admitted to me when I was trying to get into the Canadian Embassy in Washington that the PMO, and I think this is verbatim.
You should watch the video on this.
The PMO and the Parliamentary Press Gallery have talked and they've decided that your views aren't welcome here.
What views?
I just report stories.
I ask questions.
Sure, maybe I have a view that this prime minister is corrupt and crony, but that, I mean, I don't have views.
I report.
And them deciding who can and cannot get into an embassy, this collusion between the PPG and the PMO is just despicable.
Kim Campbell's Angry Tweet00:05:46
I'm getting angry now.
Well, don't get too angry there, Bruce Banner.
I don't want you hulking out.
But, you know, it's part of an ongoing narrative.
The PMO's office goes to UN conferences in which we're banned from attending.
I myself in May got frog marched out of a press conference held by Maryam Monsef, which was about celebrating World Press Freedom Day.
You know, Kian, like I said, it's beyond parody.
We've got to wrap it here.
I hope this guy gets his day in court.
I don't know what's going to happen from here, but at least it looks like your complaint is being treated seriously.
And he has been delivered a message.
Yeah, when it comes to the sticks and stones part of that old nursery rhyme, that's not acceptable.
Not in a democracy where we ostensibly or in theory have freedom of speech.
So good luck, my friend.
And maybe drop by pro hockey life and buy some new equipment for the next Trudeau presser, okay?
Sounds good, David.
Thanks for having me.
Okay, then.
And that was Kian Bexty in Calgary.
Keep it here, folks.
More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.
The Menzies for the Rebel.media here in Palm Beach, Florida, just outside the oh-so-opulent Mar-a-Lago.
Now, folks, many people in this state are hunkering down in case Hurricane Dorian does touch land here.
But there is one notable person back in our great Dominion of Canada who is actually cheering on the hurricane and hoping that the trajectory of Dorian will lead it right here to Mar-a-Lago.
And that, of course, is former Prime Minister for a Day, Kim Campbell, who actually tweeted, I'm hoping for a direct hit on Mar-a-Lago.
And why would Ms. Campbell hope for such a hit?
Well, of course, this is the stomping grounds of President Donald Trump.
And I'm afraid Ms. Campbell hates Donald Trump.
And I'm not exaggerating.
Previously, she referred to the president as a mother effer.
Of course, she used the full word in her tweet.
It's despicable.
It's despicable because, well, the president's not even here.
So if Kim Campbell were to get her wish and this hurricane did touch down here, it would be causing destruction and killing innocents, people that are in no way affiliated with the president.
I guess she didn't quite think that through.
Well, needless to say, Floridians were not impressed with Kim Campbell tweeting such vile and ludicrous statements, nor were you impressed with her lust for a natural disaster to touch down upon Mar-a-Lago, simply because she has political differences with President Trump.
Indeed, here's what some of you had to say about Campbell's odious tweet.
Daniel Grant writes, what a sick person you are, Kim Campbell.
Grow up.
What a disingenuous apology, too.
Well, Daniel, that tweet is certainly sick, and I think it is all the more sick given that it is emanating from a person who was once holding the top office in Canada, albeit briefly, of course.
As for the apology, it took a long while coming, with Campbell originally telling her critics to get a grip.
And then she said it was all just a joke.
Really?
Really, Kim?
If that is your idea of comedy, where exactly is the punchline?
Miscellaneous silliness writes, Kim Campbell, irrelevant NPC, just looking for some attention.
She's been ignored and neglected for so long that she will say and do anything for a little attention.
Yet, here's the thing, miscellaneous silliness.
The Trudeau Liberals have no problem with her mean-spirited nonsense.
Kim Campbell will continue to serve on in a committee that vets Supreme Court judges.
Yep, that's exactly the kind of person I want to see in that particular role.
Tony in Southwark writes, is hoping for a Mar-a-Lago to be destroyed a form of hate speech?
I think so.
Well, Tony, the goalposts on hate speech are always being moved about these days, but let's put it this way, hateful words directed at President Trump is essentially politically correct hate speech, and that sort of hate speech is applauded, not denounced, by many on the loony left.
Lori McNeill writes, Kim was PM for about a New York minute.
She was voted out as soon as we could get her out.
Who really cares about KC?
Well, indeed, Kim Campbell inherited a PC majority government, and when the 1993 election took place, some four months after that inheritance, well, that PC majority government was so decimated that Kim Campbell could hold a caucus meeting in a Mazda Miada, meaning it was reduced to just two seats.
You'd think with that kind of legacy, Campbell would keep her mouth shut for the rest of her life?
Apparently not.
And Lil Miss Sowetall writes, all respect lost for Campbell now.
What kind of leader wishes harm on any human?
Sad, sad state in Canada.
We really have lost our charm and charisma in the last four years.
Hopefully we can get our country back come election time.
And a big amen to that, little Miss Sowetall.
Well, that wraps up another edition of Rebel Roundup.
Thanks so much for joining us.
See you next week.
And hey folks, never forget, without risk, there can be no glory.