Marty Gold of theJ.ca examines Manitoba’s 2019 election call, where Premier Brian Pallister faced fake news claims—like skipping D-Day—while delegating representation to veteran MLA John Reyes. He critiques legacy Jewish media for amplifying fringe groups like Independent Jewish Voices and Linda Sarsour, ignoring their extremist ties to Iran-backed protests (e.g., Toronto’s Al-Quds Day), where permits were ignored and police failed to act. Only 2.5% of Canada’s Jews support such narratives yet dominate coverage, while mainstream institutions remain silent despite financial resources. Gold argues media indifference and political cowardice (e.g., blocking Salim Mansoor) enable a coalition of leftist and Islamist extremists targeting Judeo-Christian values, demanding urgent action from outlets like Rebel Media to counter it. [Automatically generated summary]
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Is Manitoba headed towards an early election?
And what the heck is going on with the open calls to genocide on the streets of Toronto?
I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
The mainstream media is starting to ramp up with their fake news attacks on Manitoba's conservative premier, Brian Pallister.
Pallister has been accused of skipping a D-Day ceremony when in reality, he gave his thought to an MLA who happens to be a veteran.
Now, I recognize that level of fake news and character assassination.
We just lived through it here in Alberta, which must mean they're getting close to election season in Manitoba.
Now, moving further east, as captured by my friend and colleague, David Menzies at the Al-Quds Day march, Toronto has a bit of an anti-Semitism problem, but it's not from the alt-right or neo-Nazis.
It's from the radical Islamic extremists who are openly calling for genocide and Sharia law.
Joining me now from Winnipeg in an interview we recorded earlier is my friend and veteran broadcaster Marty Gold to talk about both of these issues and what we can do to prevent the hatred on the streets of Toronto from spilling over into the rest of the country.
Now from Winnipeg is Marty Gold.
He.
He's the editor for the J.C., he's also a former Winnipeg radio personality and he's a bit of a wrestling legend.
So we're lucky to call him a friend of the show.
Marty, thanks for joining me.
Thank you.
I'm only a legend because I've survived this long and everybody I started with is now in a blissful retirement.
I appreciate that.
Those are very kind words.
The notion of me being a radio personality is based on a talk show that was really the, I wouldn't say it was the first of the genre in Winnipeg, but after Talk Radio 1290 got blown out, there were no alternatives in the market to what Chorus Radio was putting in with Charles Adler, etc.
And I provided an alternative until it made the NDP establishment far too uncomfortable.
And the next thing you know, I'm years later, I've evolved into this kind of a personality, splitting my time between the we call Jewish Affairs really affairs.
And I still try to cover the secular stuff, Manitoba and Winnipeg politics as well.
Not as much as I did, but I am still on top of a lot of those issues.
Yeah, you were making the NDP uncomfortable as an independent journalist before I ever thought it was cool.
So I think we're sort of kindred spirits in that respect.
And that's one of the reasons I wanted to have you on the show is to talk a little bit about Manitoba politics, because a lot of the things that are happening in Manitoba, it's sort of happening all across the conservative movement.
You have a conservative government that was elected to do certain things and they seem sort of weak on those issues.
And there's, you know, the fake news that's happening there.
So why don't you give us a bit of a roundup of what's happening in Manitoba politics?
Well, in this instance, we're going to focus on provincial Manitoba, meaning provincial politics, what's going on in like Lynn Lake or something.
The provincial government has clearly decided that they are going to go to the polls early based on Tom Brodbeck's column today in the Winnipeg Sun.
It looks like that date is going to be September the 10th.
The election otherwise wouldn't be held until October of 2020.
The putative reasoning of Premier Pallister is that a political campaign in the middle of the Manitoba 150 celebration, the anniversary celebrations, would put a government in a position of being accused of politicizing various events and perhaps politicizing funding decisions or I don't know what.
The real reasons for this are far more related to the political chess game in Manitoba than worrying about selling anniversary celebrations per se.
There is, let's address that fake news.
The media here is not on good terms with Premier Pallister.
He's a difficult guy to get to know.
And he's legit, he's got genuine skepticism.
Anytime he pretty much deals with the media, I don't think he's helped this cause by creating the aura of being inaccessible a lot of the time.
He went out of his way to say that even in this fake pre-election non-mandatory, but we're going to impose our own blackout, he's still going to make himself available.
So he's trying to mollify that.
But the fake news revolved in this case, most recently, around the D-Day commemoration, where Premier Palliser did not appear at the ceremony.
And the headlines in, I think, CBC and the Free Press are really at the forefront of this here was that Pallister is missing.
And I mean, he took a lot of, I hate to use the term actually in relation to D-Day, but he took a lot of flack for this.
First of all, it's anytime there's a headline said he's missing, he wasn't missing.
He had gone to a meeting with an agri-processor that's investing, if I'm remembering correctly, $400 million in a factory in Porter's La Prairie.
This I think relates to the pea production that's become very important part of our economy.
So he wasn't off suntanning or collecting autographs or something or sightseeing.
But I felt, and I'm making this statement on a very personal level.
I thought that these stories were ridiculously unfair to the member of the legislature who took Premier Pallister's seat at the ceremonies.
John Reyes, he would be a respected member of the legislature no matter which party he were representing.
He's a multicultural ally, a respected amateur professional, I guess it is, sports official.
I did not know him at all in my radio days.
You know, when he first met me, which was about six, seven years ago, he was effusive in his praise for the kind of work that I had done.
And I wasn't really familiar with his background.
But he's the kind of guy that when you meet him and when you talk with him and see how he addresses issues and public concerns, you can easily picture him being elected as a liberal or as a new Democrat, quite frankly.
He's very personable and he's a military veteran and deserved a lot more respect than he got.
For the Premier to have made the decision, and granted his itinerary said he'd be there.
And I haven't talked with John.
I don't know what the background was to the switch, but for him to make that decision to let a military veteran who is respected by everybody.
I've never heard a bad word about John Reyes.
And for the media to criticize this, it is like a backhanded slap at John Reyes and the legitimacy of him representing Manitoba at these ceremonies, of which there can be no question.
And I think it was really unfortunate.
Again, the Premier's office maybe could have handled this better in terms of putting out an explanation announcement ahead of time why.
But the choice of John Reyes to represent Manitoba at this kind of a ceremony commemorating the sacrifices made by all the allied soldiers and frankly, as well as the loss on all sides in war,
it should not have been approached by the mainstream media the way they did because it, to me, is really disrespectful of John Reyes as though he did something wrong saying that he would represent our province at D-Day.
And I wanted to make mention of that because John's a rising star politically.
He, in my estimation, should have been in the Pallister cabinet through this first iteration of the Pallister government.
I expect he will be in it in the next iteration.
And, you know, every once in a while in politics, you'll hear of people like, I'll give you an example, Nathan Cullen, people really try not to say bad things about from the NDP, who's retiring federally.
And John Reyes is that kind of a guy who really rises above partisanship and is seen as somebody who tries to contribute to the greater good.
And I want to make sure to give a shout out to John because his reputation, his actions should not be sullied by the media's rivalry with the Premier.
Now, looking towards a prospective provincial election, there are weak points for the government.
One weak point is there's been boundary redistributions.
So some seats that they took in the last election from the NDP, Thompson, where Steve Ashton fell after 30-something years, that could be back in play.
I think it's Brandon East could be back in play.
Redistribution might create some pressures on some city ridings as well.
But ultimately, Pallister appears to be going to the polls early because the opposition, the official opposition, as well as the third party, the NDP and the Liberals under their current leaders have had great difficulty getting traction on issues.
Wabkin, who comes with a lot of baggage.
He sidestepped a real problem with regards to the use of the term genocide in relation to the missing and murdered women report, where he said he didn't want his kids to be seen as disadvantaged in some way.
It was very smart of him to do that, considering that his kids go to private school, that he's the son of a hereditary chief.
It would be a ridiculous argument for somebody to suggest the Canu family was that affected by these factors.
He did himself a lot of good, honestly, I think, instead of jumping on that train, but he's got his own baggage to deal with that the Conservative government is going to continually bring up.
There are weak points.
The implementation of changes in emergency rooms, some being converted to urgent care, it's very rough, very patchy.
One of the reasons is that the Conservative government did not take a broom and sweep clean the bureaucracies.
And over and over again, in different government departments, Department of Health, Sustainable Development, they've continually been tripped up, in my estimation, by leftover bureaucrats whose loyalty is to something other than the actual public service and delivering programs according to the mandate of the government.
And that has cost the conservatives votes.
There are a lot of people that work very hard bringing forward the kinds of crass behavior and unfair decisions of the previous Selinger NDP administration who feel that they've been abandoned by the Palliser government, where their issues weren't addressed, where there was no, you know, look, it's not reparations, but you've got to try to make things better for people.
And they left a lot of bodies, you know, kind of behind on the roadside.
And there's very loyal individuals who are conservative by definition and by their own political orientation.
They're going to be sitting this one out.
I don't think they're going to have the ground game, but for the NDP and for the liberals under their relatively newly elected leader, Dougal Lamont, they don't have the money.
They don't have the ground game.
The coffers are weak.
The Tories' coppers are strong.
I'll be happy to provide more insight as the campaign rolls out.
But it's political opportunism.
Go a year early.
And then that way Pallister can plan for an orderly step into his next phase of life.
He's not going to serve out the full four years if he's re-elected in September 2019.
Do you think the NDP in Manitoba are sort of feeling the implosion of the federal party?
Is that what's leading to some of their ability to fundraise those problems?
Is their ground game collapse?
No, I think it's their own, honestly, their own implosion.
They got their asses kicked.
Political Opportunism: NDP Threat00:06:21
Can I say that?
So badly in the provincial election.
They dropped down to 14 seats and they've lost two MLAs since.
And a number of the veterans of the caucus, James Allum, Andrew Swan, both of whom were interesting fellows to talk to, to say the least.
But these vets, I believe Fleur Marcelino is also stepping aside.
So look, what's rising in the ranks of the NDP?
They're using the Winnipeg School Division as a farm club.
They have for years, to the detriment of the provincial conservatives that have never understood that this is considered fair game in Manitoba.
But when you start elevating these hardcore, far-left, Marxist school trustees, and these are your star candidates, this just doesn't have a lot of appeal for the average voter.
You know, the Selinger government lost like a lot for the Conservatives to stand up with 40 seats.
That's a lot of lost ground.
And Canu as leader just doesn't, it just doesn't appeal to a lot.
Look, the challenge here is for Doug Lamont and the Liberal Party, who are also, you know, unfortunately for them, they're linked with the federal party, the same way the NDP is.
I'll put it to you this way.
If Mr. Singh had a better standing with the national media, more prominence, you know, more traction federally, it might help the NDP to the tune of two seats here.
But the Trudeau government is an anchor on Dougal Lamont, who again I've met and talked with personally, and he's an interesting guy and wants to bring forward some good ideas.
But any time, I'm sure that at the doorstep, he's going to hear the word Trudeau over if he doesn't hear Freeland or McKenna.
You know, he's going to hear these words over and over again at the doorstep.
And that is too bad because the Liberal Party, I expect, will bring forward some decent candidates.
But I think that the NDP is, you know, the threat to them is that if the Liberals gain traction and they go from the four seats they have, one of their MLAs is not going to be running again.
But if they go from, you know, four seats to seven, to seven, to eight, something like that, then the pendulum could swing in a way where the NDP is going to be permanently seen as a rump caucus of, you know, marginal special interest groups and unions.
Unions are not very popular here right now, no matter how hard they try.
There's a lot less sympathy for nurses being displaced in the healthcare field or changes, et cetera.
It's a lot less sympathy for the unions than one would have expected because the sense of the public is the unions have had it good for too long.
And it's hard for Lamont to figure out how to address that.
I know that Dougal wants to come up with alternatives in terms of delivery of health care.
But anything that looks like it's helping the unions or directed for union votes, it's going to work against them with the average taxpayer.
You know, that sounds so much like what Alberta went through and is going through, where people do think that the unions have had it too good for too long.
And when the NDP fear-monger about these so-called Jason Kenney cuts, I always think, don't threaten me with a good time.
You know, and the Phillman government went through that here.
And I was no fan of the Phillman government.
And there's plenty of evidence of that.
I caused them some grief in a couple of subjects.
And the Sterling Lion government succeeding Schreier.
I mean, Sterling Lyon and Phillman, having met them both, and Brian Pallister's actually, you know, talk with him one-on-one.
He's a much nicer person.
I find much more at ease in my experience with him.
But then again, I met Brian like 1993 when we were running a filibuster that wasn't expected by the Phillman government on taxi legislation.
And it was left to Pallister, the young guy, the only guy with hair long enough to reach his collar in those days of legislature to pull us aside and try to broker some sort of a deal because there's no air conditioning in the legislature and they wanted to go home.
And we had 200 cabbies lined up to speak with no time limit.
So, you know, I have a long standing, not a personal friendship with him, but he knows me.
And anytime I've talked with him, he's been easy to talk with.
I realize that's not the experience for a lot of people.
But in any event, I suppose that for opposition parties, their relief is that they're really, for some of them, they're going to be looking past this election, trying to hold their own turf and figure out what they can do to run against whoever the next leader is going to be.
I anticipate that there are a couple of women in cabinet that are going to be the front runners to succeed Pallister in 2022 or whenever that might come about.
Well, that is very fascinating.
Sort of uh looking towards uh Manitoba with um, trepidation and anticipation.
I guess you never should really underestimate the NDP.
But in changing lanes to the other, Marty Gold beat um, there's a story that we were talking about off air that uh, you've been following, but there doesn't seem to be that much coverage in the media now, and it's about the pressure from BDS groups against PUMA, the shoe manufacturer these days.
Yeah this, this came up because on the weekend BDS Canada put out a very uh verbose pronouncement, uh that Danny Green, who's uh the ace uh shooter of the Raptors, uh that he has a big endorsement deal with PUMA uh uh, as did, uh you know the Raptors and uh with there's a long tradition.
Carter and the Raptors of around the year 2000, I guess, had a big deal uh, maybe going into 2000 with PUMA.
So they decided to to try to capitalize on raptor mania and the the fact that the country's swinging behind a basketball team really, for you know the the first time uh, to this extent, and they decided they would try to ride it with some free publicity and PUMA supports the Colonial Israeli Zionist project, all that other nonsense and try to extend their call for a boycott of PUMA to connect it directly to the Raptors.
Political Correctness in Sports00:06:16
And Danny Green and I did a google news search and not one news story.
Uh news agency seems to have picked up on this.
Uh so uh, you know that's the kind of thing that they do.
And then the the problem is so much when they, these BDS characters, try this stuff.
It's when it's stupid, ideas like this gain traction.
Danny Green is not going to change a single Israeli policy as it pertains to Gaza, the West Bank or any other issue in the state of Israel, and trying to drag uh athletes into this, distract them during uh playoffs, during a title run, it shows you the lack of character of the people that that steer the ship of BDS Canada and these allied groups.
It's uh uh, you know, lowlifes doing what lowlifes do best, being lowlifes.
Well, and I think for the average sports viewer, I think they've had it up to here with um both you know activist groups and activist athletes barfing their political views into the sports realm.
I mean, look at Kaepernick.
You know, people are just really sick of seeing um athletes kneel for the anthem, privileged athletes kneeling for the anthem while soldiers stand, and I think um, hopefully this is sort of a a harbinger of things to come, that maybe, maybe these athletes and these sports organizations are going to do a little less kowtowing to this activist pressure.
Well the, this starts with the, with the the, the sports media you know, the SPN learned the lesson right and the sports media decide, look, athletes have have and this an American thing, more so in a Canadian thing, and I, having lived in LA uh, for a period of time, I I try not to wade too deeply in a second guessing how Americans conduct their business under their uh, under their bill of rights, under their charter um,
athletes have going back to my childhood uh, you know the late 60s uh, athletes.
Bill Russell certainly took the forefront in civil rights issues, etc.
Uh uh, Rosie Greer was right there when Bobby Kennedy was assassinated, so I don't want to second guess that too much.
But when you start bringing those issues onto the field of play and into the arena, this is where athletes create this this, this tension with their, with fans, with fan base.
In my opinion um, and and uh, you know, Cap Kaepernick um I, I could have sworn.
I saw a story this weekend, by the way, that I didn't click on that he had been offered a contract by the, by uh Seattle uh, which may be possible uh, but uh the, the American public in particular views sports as uh, as a as uh, you know, neutral turf when it comes to politics.
That's how they want it.
Nobody booed whatever anybody thought about Richard Nixon or Jimmy Carter.
Anytime that they phone the winning team at the end of the World series, of the Super Bowl, you don't boo that uh, and so I I think that um uh, that the, the sports leagues, have become sensitive to it.
They don't want to lose viewership.
Viewership equal equals the dollars that they, that they need to deliver.
Uh, it's a, become a very fine line, uh.
The CFL has, you know, ventured close to this line in the last couple years, not so so far this year.
It is something that professional sports leagues this is an easier fit for amateur sports leagues than professional sports leagues, that's for sure.
But once you're a professional athlete, when you start bringing this stuff, you know, into the field, into the ring uh, onto the, onto the the, the pitch or whatever it, people don't want to feel they're being antagonized by having something thrown at them that isn't relevant to why they're there, which is to, you know, whether it's cheer for the home team watch the game, whatever.
Yeah, I mean, a lot of people watch sports for relaxation uh, an escape, an escape from the political world, right?
Well listen, I can tell you from my own experience where i'm.
I'm uh hosting wrestling shows and and refereeing occasionally and whatever, and I I was uh in the ring, uh in a in a battle royal this past weekend.
Nobody comes to wrestling shows uh, to see, you know, great political statements.
Uh, they don't see wrestling shows the.
The political statement they see is that things can go on in the ring that are and are portrayed that are, you know, politically incorrect, kind of ribald, sometimes a little bit over the top.
Not every show's like that.
Some are more family oriented, but they accept it for what it is and they don't put expectations in this country uh, you know that that uh, they want to see statements made about various political issues or, or you know, clean air or environmental issues.
They they're there to be strictly entertained and to, you know, get away for a while.
And uh thankfully, professional wrestlers, for the most part in this country seem to understand that that is their role, though again online.
So socially uh uh, they they're becoming more vocal, more active uh, but uh, when people come to the shows you're not nobody standing there would sign up this petition or something.
Uh, we try to keep it in my experience.
We're trying to keep it that part of it away from the shows and, notwithstanding the, the event this weekend was uh, to raise money for uh the resource.
Uh, a uh resource center.
Uh, as part of pride week.
That was very important to premier championship wrestling.
A lot of the wrestlers there uh, that's being part of the community.
That wasn't trying to jam anything down anybody's throat.
It again a fine line, uh and uh, And it's something that, especially big league professional sports, I don't think that they're going to be able to push the envelope in the next five years the way they tried in the previous three.
I think that they've recognized that there's a boundary there that the fans don't want to see crossed.
Yeah, I hope not.
I mean, I've learned over the last three years: if there's somebody that I'm a fan of, a celebrity, musician, actor, whatever, I don't check their social media because I don't want to find out that I'm not a fan of them anymore.
Jewish Voices in Dialogue00:15:02
We took the long way around, but I want to get to another story about BDS.
And this is about the voices of BDS sort of being normalized in Jewish media.
And I know at the J.C.A. you guys have covered this quite extensively, where these, you know, like independent Jewish voices, they're given a lot of page space in Jewish legacy media.
And I think you guys at the J.C. seem to be serving as the appropriate counterbalance to all of that.
Well, we appreciate that.
Our publisher, Ron East, and we'll talk more about Ron's recent misadventures.
But one thing that he and I have talked about is a number of years ago, it was probably about 2007.
His father, Yoram Amizrahi, was lieutenant colonel in the Israeli Defense Force and was the commander in southern Lebanon in the 70s, dealing with Sad Hadad and the Christian militias and with various tribes and whatever.
And Yoram was a very respected figure in retirement, settling in Canada on matters of international affairs, terrorism, etc.
And he was asked to participate in a panel at the University of Winnipeg in 2007.
And one of the panelists proceeded to ambush Yoram and the audience with all this Israel apartheid and all that kind of far-left nonsense.
And Yoram said, if he'd have known that this is what it was going to turn into, as opposed to a reasoned discussion about the issues.
And Yoram should be understood, he was a labor supporter.
He was remarkably left-wing.
And here they are jumping on a guy who, in terms of wanting to find solutions for Palestinian grievances and create peace in the region, he's on their side.
And they jumped all over him.
And part of that was the engineering of independent Jewish voices.
And what we found in particularly in Winnipeg, and this is something with the legacy media, where independent Jewish voices, let's look at this statistically.
When you look at their counterpart in the U.S., they calculated how many members they had.
I saw this a while ago.
And then I divided by the number of people identified as Jewish in America.
It came out to about 2.5% of these real far-left-wing, neo-Marxist radical nuts.
So if we apply the same formula in Canada, which by the way would be the high side, okay?
What we saw happen here was, let's go back to Linda Sarsour coming to Winnipeg.
The Jewish Federation spoke up.
B'nai Brith spoke out.
The mayor of Winnipeg, Brian Bowman, held a press conference denouncing her being given a platform because of her strident views and her divisive language and for a lot of other good reasons.
Now you turn around and the Jewish newspaper in town, the print newspaper, declares that the mayor's been duped by the Federation, by Bene Brith, that they're all responding to a bunch of bullies, oh, not a bunch of bullies, A small group of bullies, noisy individuals.
Now, with the legacy- Using intimidation tactics, I think the quote was.
Bullies using intimidation tactics, you know, which is an astounding phrase to be uttered from the BDS side of the argument who go around bullying Jewish-owned businesses and pro-Israeli students on campus.
But anyway, sorry to interrupt.
The Jewish day school in Detroit, children on Yamatz Mode on Israeli Independence Day in 2016, and they start picketing little kids.
Who are these idiots?
Well, that was, if not now, but again, that's all aligned the same side of the fence.
So what we have is the Jewish media claiming that there's no real, the establishment Jewish media, claiming, listen, there's nothing really to be worried about here.
And this is just bringing attention to people like Sarsour.
Nobody would have even known she was here.
Now, look, I don't know.
I don't know where on the idiot scale this falls, but you got to be really some kind of out of touch, clued out, as we say, the shteno mentality to think that a rock star like Linda Sarsour,
who's got this great legitimacy and aura among the political left, that independent Jewish voices and these other groups that hosted her in Winnipeg, that they weren't planning to make sure that in four or five days before her appearance to spur ticket sales, that they were going to go to their friends at CBC and their other friends in the mainstream media and promote this, like, look who's coming to town and the social planning council.
And it's to benefit the Muslim women's institution.
You think they're not going to like put out a press release?
They aren't going to try to promote it.
What happened was noisy individuals.
There was a petition opposing her being granted a platform by publicly funded organizations.
If a mosque wants to bring in Linda Sarsour, it may be of concern to the broader community, the Jewish community, but that's their own business.
These were organizations that receive public funding that have charitable status.
When 4,200 people signed that petition, that was not noisy individuals and that was not intimidation.
And on top of that, the Federation and Bene Brith confirmed to me that they had no discussion with Mayor Bowman's office, got a phone call an hour before the press conference.
Can you come down to City Hall?
So this idea that Mayor Bowman, as an example, didn't come to this conclusion that this was divisive and wrong.
And that Linda Sarsour is an anti-Semite on his own.
It's not supported by the facts.
And even in regards to, again, the Jewish post of news, when they talk about Linda Sarsour, they use the term anti-Semite with quotation marks.
This is the only media, Jewish media I can find that does this.
And so to try to, how do I put this?
To try to maintain legitimacy in the broader community, in the Jewish community, these, instead of saying, hmm, the community's spoken out and they really don't like this, it's like the community's wrong.
Our leadership is wrong.
There's nothing to fear.
There's nothing to watch.
This is just making it worse for everybody, which is a very, and Ron and Ron East and I had this discussion this weekend.
The Jewish communities in Canada are largely, you know, they've been the purview of people like from my own background, my own family's background from Eastern Europe, and maybe in some cases from Western Europe, white Ashkenazi Jews.
And it strikes us that part of the problem here is that the Ashkenazi way of handling things was, you know, to not fight back, essentially, to hope things blow over, make nice, don't make noise, shah still.
This doesn't work anymore.
And especially doesn't work for Israelis.
And it doesn't work for Mizrahi Jews, for Jews from other backgrounds, where they weren't fighting Nazis.
They were fighting terror that was coming from Muslim communities, from Arab communities, Those kinds of radicals.
And here you have the Jewish Postal News that runs letters to the editor from the independent Jewish voices critical of the Federation of B'nei Brith.
You don't speak for all Jews, which brings me back to my original point.
If you accept the calculation of 2.5%, which I think is high, if there's 15,000 Jews in Winnipeg, then how many people does independent Jewish voices represent at 2.5%?
They don't even represent 800 Jews in Winnipeg.
Okay.
And yet, when the media is trying to find balance, Luton Sars is coming to Winnipeg and there's opposition, but this group of Jews say that there's nothing to worry about.
This group of Jews think that she's got good points to make.
Now, you tell me the last time there was a story about some Catholic church issue, when was the last time the mainstream media went running to some marginal group of lapsed Catholics?
I'm not quite sure what the term is nowadays, that represents 2% of Catholics and said, well, this group is welcoming the Pope, but these Catholics say it represents 2% of Catholics in the country.
So for the Jewish community, the pro-Israel community to be subjected to this fake news balance about views in the Jewish community, which certainly is a legitimate news story from time to time, but not when it's a matter of 300 or 400 left-wing Marxist agitators standing in favor of something that promotes not just anti-Zionism,
but promotes anti-Semitism by the language used, by the methodologies, by the messaging.
And yet, look, even the Canadian Jewish news, who I'm not trying to pick a fight with, but they provided column space to a member of If Not Now in Toronto about, oh, you know, you shouldn't be shutting out Jews, the young Jews that question things.
Well, look, the problem is when you're brainwashed by your Marxist ideology into thinking, you know, Israel, this colonial project, blah, Give me a break.
These would be the first people, among the first people, chucked off the rooftops in Gaza if they were there.
And they've got a very unrealistic view of the world.
But, you know, a lot of this is predicated on, geez, Jews really become successful.
So many of them came to North America with nothing and they're respected in the secular communities and they're respected for their work with secular charities, with the United Way, with other causes.
We have something to feel guilty about because of our success.
And a lot of this, especially in the States, there's only two, if not now, chapters in Canada.
Again, it's all intertwined with independent Jewish voices, Jewish Voices for Peace.
These Marxists are all intertwined.
Their own ecosystem.
The way that they have captured in the States American youth, Jewish youth, and it's also because of intermarriage, because of the popularity of reform observance.
Canada is still very orthodox and conservative in terms of synagogue attendance.
Like 80% of the countries like that.
So what we have is these American ideologies, these American methodologies being dropped onto Canada, not fitting successfully.
And how do they respond?
You've got it wrong.
And the defenders of Israel, we're intimidating people and we're agitators.
Gay Andrea, as my father used to say.
That's not how it's happening.
And if you want to see intimidation, again, where was the Jewish media?
Where was the mainstream media at Al-Quds Day in Toronto?
Where were they?
We were there.
You were there.
Yeah, that is an excellent segue into the next thing I wanted to talk about was the Al-Quds Day or Nakba Day in Toronto.
Well, Hero was first and Al-Quds is second.
Nakba was a couple of weeks earlier.
We dealt with that in Winnipeg in a manner that no one on the continent has ever dealt with.
When I say we, not so much the J.C., although our coverage did, but the Israeli Association of Manitoba, our publisher Ron East, as the founder of the organization, he put out a call for people to appear.
This was not supported by the legacy Jewish institutions because they will not even give the illusion of endorsing anything that takes place on Shabbat on Saturday, which is again an Ashkenazi value that Israeli Jews recognize anti-Semites don't take Shabbos off.
Neither can the defenders of Israel.
Neither can people that stand up for the Jewish people and fight anti-Semitism.
And there was a film sponsored by Independent Jewish Voices, which, you know, remarkably, the Jewish media here says, well, it's just a little movie.
It wasn't even this and that.
Yet, when you look at what was actually said by the people who brought the film and they specifically said it was anti-Israel, how can you, you know, people say, oh, bringing this film, it's anti-Israel.
But these leftist Jewish apologists for the radicals go, well, the film's not that bad.
Where are you nuts?
So a rally was organized to precede their Nakba Day march.
They were going to come through a park that sort of connects to City Hall.
The Israeli Association march started at City Hall, cut through the park, and they were still like stapling their signs together.
And they hear Ron on the loudspeaker on the megaphone and they come rushing out.
But ultimately, Ron crossed the street and we published the photographs.
And there was detente, there was dialogue.
There was an explanation that there aren't Israeli militants in Canada, pro-Israel militants in Canada saying, We got to start another war.
We got to start wiping out these communities.
Nobody's talking like that.
And so to get across it, regardless of the political differences and the justifiable tensions that have arisen over a century of battle that has gone in terms of the communities, not just in Israel, but in Arab countries and in European countries, pogroms, or whatever, that there's still a core value as Canadians that we share of wanting peaceful coexistence.
And this worked until a couple of the pro-Palestinian agitators realized, boy, this makes us look really bad because every place else that's having Nakba Day is carrying signs, you know, pro-BDS.
There wasn't a BDS sign in Winnipeg, by the way.
As they said, well, no, one-state solution.
Okay, well, you know, since the official Canadian position is this two-state solution, when you start talking about a one-state solution, that does not have a good ending for the Jewish people, and it doesn't have a good ending for Christians either.
And the rally disengaged.
The only place that we can find in North America, and maybe in the world, where there was actual peaceful talks.
Oh, sorry, there was that girl I saw on Twitter that posed with a guy with an Israeli flag and her with a Palestinian flag.
And now she's been doxxed and God knows what else by all the creeps on her that say that she betrayed their side of the fence.
So to bring that forward from Al-Quds, from Nakba Day, Nakba Day is like a, you know, they test the waters at every city this takes place.
They want to see how the police will respond.
They want to see if the Jewish community is going to show up, which as long as these are held on Saturdays, that isn't happening.
But now, with the growth, the emergence of an Israeli group that will then lead the rest of the Jewish community that aren't observant of Shabbat, this is changing the ground game right from under them.
Ron went to Al-Quds Day in Toronto, and as illustrated by the interviews that were done by David Menzies, this is where hate is being festered in our country.
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And what Ron saw on the ground, and we've got an interview that will be up this week on the J.CA, where I talked with Ron for about 15 minutes.
We've intercut some video from the rally itself, not just rebel media video, from the Al-Qud side as well, their own propaganda channel.
And you hear people like that are presumably one of these leaders, these speakers, a relatively young lady, presumably educated in Canada.
And the first thing out of her yap is she rejects the Canadian colonial white supremacist, racist Canadian experiment government.
Anybody who thinks that this isn't a threat, not just to the Jewish people in Canada, but to all Canadians, as Ron explains and will continue to talk about, this is a sad mistake.
When you look fundamentally at what went on in Toronto, for one thing, it was proven that the City Hall is completely, what's the word I'm looking for?
Impotent.
They can make all the pronouncements they want.
Nothing stopped the Al-Quds organizers from marching without a permit.
Nothing's going to stop them next year.
The numbers continue to go up.
They compromise the police by ensuring that they bust in 250 or 300 children and presumably mothers, women, because they know no police force outside of Iran, outside of these kinds of Islamic countries.
No police force is going to bust up a parade or a march in the proximity of women and children like that.
So this is a propaganda game that the Toronto leadership, Mayor Tory, I'm telling you, I don't care about Toronto politics at all, but it's starting to impact all of us in the rest of the country, Toronto Politics, Ontario politics, because of their ineptitude on a lot of files.
This is one of them.
That march, the police response, was to herd the Jews and the Israel supporters, go stand over there for your safety.
If there's a threat to the safety of people on public sidewalks, how is it that any police force thinks, well, the way to neutralize this is to isolate the people who are being threatened?
That does make sense in a spontaneous riot.
This wasn't a spontaneous riot.
Why did they make that decision?
Well, because politically, A, the police, it's easier to control 40 people than it is to control 700 or 800.
And politically, where are the votes?
Where's the political pressure going to come from?
And so instead of a country that stands for freedom, a country that stands for tolerance, you had what, again, what Menzies captured in his videos and what was not reported in any mainstream outlet I can find.
And I'm aiming at something.
And if anybody knows, they should let me or Sheila know.
I can't find a CBC story.
I can't find any coverage of this.
I think the Toronto Star did actually have a story.
And so I love me in the Toronto Sun.
But where's the mainstream media?
What do they call it, Toronto?
The Globe and Mail.
Was there a story in the Globe and Mail about Al-Quds and how without a permit, they were still allowed to march and chant vile things about Jews and about Canada, about the Canadian way of life?
No coverage at all.
And this is, again, from the Iran, this is Iranian.
This is state-sponsored.
The signs are all the same.
This isn't where the signs, you know, Trudeau sucks and a sign like that appears across the country at different rallies.
These are all manufactured with the exact same slogans.
So this is state-sponsored by Iran in promotion of Hezbollah.
And Canadian politicians, they're like this.
The Canadian media are like this, right?
And a lot of people in the Canadian public, honestly, they're like this.
That's got to change because this is going to get bigger and it's going to go from Toronto and it's going to expand to other Canadian cities.
And accordingly, what Run's detected is the secular community, if I can use that term again, people like the Christian community, for instance.
Name another group that radical militant Islamists hate, okay?
They expect that the first canary in the coal mine would be the Jewish community.
Well, the Jewish federations, the way they're structured, no matter how many, I think it's $60 million they raise in Toronto, they didn't produce a single person on the streets of Toronto to oppose Al-Qudsday.
In Winnipeg, they raised $5.9 million.
Again, at Nakba Day, they produced zero people to stand up and counteract this kind of hate and this kind of propaganda.
And so clearly, there needs to be a different initiative because the federations, which fund the old folks' homes, education programs, worthwhile causes and institutions, schools within Jewish communities, but they are not equipped and they are not constructed in a way to actually monitor anti-Semitism.
They're very good at putting out announcements about CEJA, the National Federation, the umbrella body, about federal legislation.
Well, you know, if they want to spend their time lobbying 15, you know, cabinet ministers or whatever, that's valid.
But that doesn't do a lot for the average Jewish person on the street.
And there are places in Toronto or the Greater Toronto area where Jews are not comfortable, and probably not only Jews, are not comfortable going.
And we had this discussion, you and I did, just, you know, just to touch base.
Is there any place else where this is the case where Jewish people would feel, I mean, you got to use common sense, you know, you're not going to, you know, you're not going to walk home from show deliberately past someplace where you know there's a lot of people that hate you.
But just generally speaking, in terms of neighborhoods, and you mentioned West Edmonton starting to get uncomfortable for Jewish people.
I can tell you in Winnipeg, there's not one neighborhood that I can think of, a neighborhood I mean, where a Jewish person or a group of Jewish kids would think, we better not go there.
You know, I mean, assuming it's broad daylight, not a dangerous neighborhood kind of thing.
But in Toronto, clearly this is going on and it's going to get worse.
And so to counteract this expansion, because this is the game, Al-Quds is a front for Hezbollah, a front for Iran.
They love to sow this division in our country.
They love to sow this kind of hate.
They love to make Jewish communities, Christian communities, nervous and feel uncomfortable.
And again, what did Menzies find?
That these radicals are relying on the population bomb.
Did we hear one word?
And again, there might have been something came out that I haven't caught, that you haven't caught.
I didn't hear of any moderate Muslim spokesperson, any religious leader from Canada that spoke out against the propaganda of Al-Quds Day.
Not one.
So it's either because, you know, a skeptic would say, well, this is what they're all really after, which I don't believe, or that there's a fear within the Muslim community itself about the radicals and about their propensity for violence and about their propensity for harassment.
And so accordingly, Ron has had a lot of contact with people in Eastern Canada since the Al-Quds march.
And it's clear that there has to be a new initiative that is created independently at this stage from the organized Jewish communities that will be able to go to other cities in Canada.
And we've got a list where they're going to be targeted by these kinds of activities, or they're already targeted by NACMA Day to build bridges with Muslim communities, build bridges with Christian churches, with Christian communities.
We have got a couple of invitations to speak at some organizations in June and early July.
Ron and I are very willing to engage in similar dialogue with organizations, with religious groups, to ensure that people understand this is something that we have to stand against now.
40 people showing up on a Saturday in Toronto against seven or eight hundred marchers, spewing the kind of hate that they did.
All that does is encourages the hate.
When there's three or 400 people there, now the narrative is going to shift.
And then the mainstream media will pay attention.
And God forbid, CBC or somebody will actually explain what from the river to the sea actually means to Islamists.
So in the meantime, this is where we're at.
So how do people support the J.C. in, I guess, built that broader coalition building, but also how do they support you in just your day-to-day mission of, I guess, you do what we do here at the Rebel.
We tell the other side of the story, the one that's being missed by the mainstream media, the one that is politically incorrect to talk about, the one that people are scared to be, I guess, what's the right term?
M103'd, if they talk about.
How do people support you guys?
And that M103, sure, that's a concern.
You know, Ron East served in the IDF.
He was born in Israel.
His family's from Metula.
One side of his family goes back seven generations in Jerusalem.
And yet he gets called a right-wing Zionist, you know, this and that.
Where are you?
Nuts?
His family's indigenous to not just that country, but to that soil.
He realizes that this is the way that people try to deflect the kind of work that we do.
And yeah, in a way, it is rebel media.
A lot of what I did in radio was rebel media Manitoba version, you know, pre-Ezra's vision.
And this is more microcosmic.
And it's focused on Jewish Israel's Jewish issues on Israel and anti-Semitism.
We have a support page.
There is Defenders of Israel merchandise, but more specifically, you know, we've been working with formulas.
There's been a significant, look, when I started this, it was by stumbling across an If Not Now leader from the U.S. being brought in as a star speaker at a Jewish learning conference.
He's going to be a speaker at a synagogue event, a three-synagogue event.
And nobody in the Jewish community had noticed in his biography he was with If Not Now.
And so many of them didn't understand the kind of propaganda that If Not Now, essentially self-hating Jews that they engaged in.
And since then, for me personally, down the rabbit hole, way deep.
And there's been some significant startup costs.
And when you get involved in stuff like this in these kinds of causes, sometimes the usual consulting business I've done has not exactly flourished because the amount of time I've spent on this, I haven't had anybody tell me off because of the work I'm doing.
They recognize the value, but it started off from ground zero.
We can be contacted through the website, through the support page, advertising.
We've done some very good numbers in terms of our Facebook and our Twitter, and we've would welcome more advertising support.
That's the easiest way to help us build the platform.
But honestly, if there's, I'm going to put it this way, and it's just a formula that came up in my head.
If there's 100 Canadians that recognize that having a platform that gets out the pro-Israel message, that debunks these Zionism is anti-a colonial project, and that Zionism is racism, that exposes the degree to which this Zionist, the anti-Zionist dialogue is just the same things have been nasty, rotten,
awful lies and generalizations that have been said about Jews for so long, as recognized in the Florida bill by Governor DeSantis.
If 100 Canadians thought it was worth $50 each, that would get us past our startup costs and then put us into the where we could move to the next phase, because this is going to become a bit of a traveling roadshow.
I know that there's pro-Israel stories to be told in Calgary, in Regina, in Edmonton, in Vancouver, in Victoria for sure, let alone Eastern Canada.
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And, you know, I've redirected my own energies.
And Ron spends a significant amount of time on this.
But, you know, literally, 100 people with 50 bucks would get us over that first hump and get us to a stage where we can put together a more formal ask for the for what are, you know, in essence going to be seminars to explain to the communities where the dangers are, how the media is being manipulated, why it's important to stand up for Canadian values.
Because, and I, I'm going by recollection, I think you're, I think you're a Catholic.
I am.
Okay.
And so for people like yourself on the prairies, for people like my family on the prairies, we have coexisted with no fights, no battles, no wanting legislation against each other in relative cooperation within communities for my entire lifetime.
And I'm sure in your experience too, it's because we, along with Protestants, along with people from Asia, along with people from the African continent, subcontinent,
people of all faiths value, whatever we may think of multiculturalism as a political party, we know that our governments have provided us with the ability to live our values of being in peace and the promotion of the Iran agenda on our streets.
This propagandizes youth.
It propagandizes people maybe that are from these communities that, you know, some of the values from the old country are still being brought in.
It propagandizes new immigrants who are not being vetted properly.
We have to have this off now.
And it's not just, I'd love to tell you, yeah, the Jews will handle it.
We can't.
These attacks on our values are not only about Jews, synagogues, Jewish values in Israel.
It's about all forms of Christianity, all forms of infidelism, because there is a contingent of people in our country, hated and abetted by foreign powers that want to undermine our way of life and make us unsafe in our own communities because they do not hold our values.
So since it's not like anybody can say, oh, deport them, that's a whole process.
And maybe some people aren't here legally.
Whatever.
The best way to deal with this now is for people to, I hate to say this, but literally people need to wake up.
Ron's experience, I'm sure David's experience in Toronto as well.
It shocked him that this is allowed on our streets.
And by the way, as I mentioned to you, last year, I think Menzies got shoved or something by one of these Al-Quds organizers.
That's the same guy that sucker punched Ron after saying, try to use this kid for a photo op a medio op.
His kid's crying.
Who knows why?
He comes around the corner.
He stops.
He says, whoa, as Ron describes in our video, why are you crying?
And Ron says, why are you using your child's propaganda?
And the guy goes nuts and hits Ron.
Ron goes right to a cop on video.
Cop says he's not going to do anything.
He's there to keep the peace.
Now, only in Toronto can you define keeping the peace as letting some guy with no provocation punch an Israeli leader, but this is a leader of the Israeli community in Canada, but this is how it's working.
So people really have to wake up.
You want to talk about who's intimidated?
Police are intimidated.
Politicians are intimidated.
We cannot be intimidated by this.
And I'm not comfortable being put in the position of having to shake people and tell them you're wrong.
Just because the legacy Jewish media says, oh, there's room for all boys, these other voices, they're aiding and abetting people that will, in their own realm, in their own regime, they go to their old country, they would slaughter people with your point of view, with your religious background in a heartbeat.
So don't tolerate the transposition of that hate onto our soil, onto our land, into our neighborhoods, in our municipalities under the guise of, well, this is just about a political conflict over the fate of Jerusalem between, you know, dispossessed Palestinians on the one hand and what are generally portrayed as white supremacist Israelis when 60% of Israelis don't look like me on the other.
This is, it's become very, you can see how upset I am about this.
But this is clearly where the Jay's work has to go now.
And if we've got to go to these different communities and wake people up and build bridges and help the Jewish communities come around and understand you can't stay home just because it's Chavez.
You've got to come out and you've got to show pride in what our people are in this society, pride in what Israel's accomplished in terms of innovation and welcoming different people and in providing democracy in the Middle East because nobody else is going to do it for us now.
This is obvious.
Police aren't going to stop this.
John Torrey's not going to stop it.
Premier Ford is going to stop it before it comes to Manitoba, before it comes to Alberta, before it comes to Saskatchewan.
I'm focusing really on Western Canada because so many problems that this country has are because of the failures of Ontario.
I know it's one of your favorite subjects now.
Right, whether it's immigration, gun laws, the expansion of militant Islamist protests, it's all Ontario's been able to get a handle on it.
That's why it's going to spread because you get away with it in Toronto.
What do you mean you can't get away with it in Saskatoon or in Victoria?
And so it's going to be tried.
And we've got to be prepared to stand up for our values and our way of life instead of having it denigrated by this weird coalition of grievance industry, Marxist, leftist, Islamist fundamentalists, the weirdest coalition that are all bound together by one thing.
They do not believe in our Judeo-Christian heritage.
They don't believe in the way our country is structured.
And as imperfect as it is, there are no immediate alternatives.
So, yeah, sure, the courts here can stink sometimes.
And the way legislation rolls out sometimes, it doesn't give people.
Yes, plenty of imperfections.
Those of us in the kind of media that I've partaken in over the years, that Sheila does, we understand that.
But the alternative that is being presented of deconstructing that holus bolus, it is there's a different agenda to that deconstruction than trying to make things better.
It's to make things worse.
Because in the minds of some deranged people, well, that's a level playing field that way.
Because God knows, you know, the privilege that I've had in my life, give me a break.
And this is where we're going.
And if people feel, like I said, there's other people that think that it's worth $50 to them to get us over that first hump and get us that second hump.
And then we'll be able to go on the road.
And certainly, you know, in the future, Rebel Media is the strongest voice out there that I've been able to find for the kinds of issues that in relation to Israel, in relation to the legitimizing of anti-Semitism, especially as it pertains to illustrious college campuses, particularly in Eastern Canada.
The University of Winnipeg is a real hotbed of moderation.
And we need to share stories to support each other's work, to ensure that the public gets the information they are not going to get.
I start with CBC because that is really the one place where I would expect that an al-Qud story, even if it would have been, you know, slanted, they didn't cover it at all.
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Is it because there was no way to make that look good?
But we know we get that on national broadcasters.
Yeah.
CTV is going to show up and do this.
And none of them, none of them, they don't have a sense of urgency to it.
And they don't want to recognize the, they don't want to recognize this groundswell.
And we do.
And you do.
And this is the kind of work that now we see there's a, what's the term I'm looking for?
It's an imperative.
It's an imperative.
It's imperative that somebody take this on and put out information every day about these BDSNICs, about Israel, about the Jewish community, and about anti-Semitism and the morphing of language so that you can say things that you couldn't really say before, but now it's not really about Jews, but it just happens that every Jew is included in the insult or in the epithet.
I never thought my life would come to this.
I grew up in a very sedate, peaceful circumstance on the Canadian prairies, could walk to synagogue every Saturday when I was a kid, you know, past my grandparents' house and whatever.
And we can still do that, but I can see how there's places in Toronto.
You mark my words.
Next year, the Al Quds marches with their bus pickups, they're all going to be by synagogues.
They thrive on this kind of intimidation.
And if the Jewish communities themselves haven't figured out how to deal with it, then it's going to be up to organizations like the J.C. to lead the way with the, you know, with the help of people at Rebel Media and other outlets that see this for what it is.
Well, Marty, I appreciate your passion.
I appreciate the generosity you've had with your time today.
I'm watching the J.C. very closely.
I'm cheering for the J.C.
And hopefully in a few weeks or so, we'll be able to check back in and you can do another roundup across the board of all the BDS and anti-Israel stories that the mainstream media just refuses to cover.
I'd be glad to join you and talk about Manitoba politics as well and provide some insight for your viewers on stuff that goes on in Manitoba and And Winnipeg, and look, I have to thank you because a lot of the media outlets aren't quite sure what to make of what we're doing because it's not the legacy Jewish media.
It's Jewish journalism for the new millennium.
It's something that's very new to them.
And so they've reached out kind of cautiously behind the scenes.
Can you give me a little bit of information about this and that?
But I'm hoping that appearances like this will show everybody in the media from all stripes that this is not some, we're not kahanists here advocating for any violence against anybody.
We are advocating for the protection of people and for the defense of a way of life that we all share in this country.
And to take a stand against these divisive elements that are, as we used to say in Yiddish, or is a form of Yiddish, no goodniks.
And there's a lot of no-goodniks out there, and we're just trying to expose them.
Well, Marty, I want to thank you so much for your time.
And I want to thank you for the work you do in pursuit of freedom on the ground in Winnipeg.
Thank you so much.
And I'll look forward to seeing you again in a few weeks' time.
You got it.
Thanks everyone for bearing with me on those video issues with Marty's side of the video.
Just this week, the Conservative Party of Canada refused to allow Muslim dissident Salim Mansoor to run as a candidate for the party.
Mansoor should be a no-brainer candidate for the Conservative Party of Canada.
He's an associate professor of political science, a former columnist for the London Free Press and the Toronto Sun.
He's been published in the National Review and the Middle East Forum and Front Page Mag.
He's an immigrant to Canada who embraces Canadian values.
He's literally the perfect candidate, but his candidacy has been blocked because Canada's cowardly conservatives are concerned that his criticism of Islamic extremism as a devout Muslim himself could be attacked by the liberals as Islamophobic.
Mansoor has been effectively, preemptively M103 by his own party because they apparently are far more concerned about the liberals and Rosie Barton than they are about radical extremism.
And that's why I agree with Marty that there's a role for all of us to play in calling out extremism and fighting back against it because we can't trust our political leaders to do it.
And that's on all sides of the aisle.
Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
I'll see everybody back here in the same time in the same place next week.