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Feb. 14, 2017 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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February 14, 2017, Tuesday, Hour #2
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If you want to be on the program, we're awaiting the White House lynching, which is soon to become a Sean Spicer.
will be drawn and quartered by the drive-by media as he seeks to explain why Trump has not yet resigned the presidency.
And the media will be demanding, you know, when they can expect that to happen.
Are you ready for this?
Now, it's CNN.
So consider that.
Headline, Republican senators, Republican senators call for Russia investigation.
Comma Flynn testimony.
Are you ready for the lead?
The Senate's second-ranking Republican and other Republican senators are calling for an investigation into connections between President Donald Trump and Russia.
And they want former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn to testify.
Senator John Cornyn, who has called for an investigation into Trump's tie to Russia before Flynn resigned, told reporters today that the Senate standing committee with oversight, the committees with oversight of intelligence, need to investigate Flynn.
Senator Roy Blunt, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, also told KTRS Radio that he wanted to speak with Flynn.
Blunt told the radio that an investigation needs to happen.
I think everybody needs that investigation to happen.
And the Senate Intelligence Committee, again, that I serve on, has been given the principal responsibility to look into this.
And I think that we should look into it exhaustively so that at the end of this process, nobody wonders whether there was a stone left unturned and shouldn't reach conclusions before you have the information you need to make those conclusions.
Senator Lindsey Graham also said he wants an investigation into Flynn's conversations with a Russian ambassador about sanctions.
Senator Graham said, I think Congress needs to be informed of what actually General Flynn said to the ambassador about lifting sanctions.
And I want to know, said Senator Graham, did General Flynn do this by himself or was he directed by somebody to do it?
So it turns out that I was right about all of this, except for one thing.
It's the Republicans now that are demanding this.
Senator Graham thinks that Flynn was discussing the lifting of sanctions with the Russian ambassador, Obama's sanctions on Russia for hacking the election.
So I guess the Republicans are content with that premise to survive, that the Russians hacked the election, and that maybe is why the Democrats lost.
And then Flynn went and made a call to the Russian ambassador in December.
And now Senator Lindsey Graham wants to know if Flynn made that call on his own or if he was directed to make that call by somebody.
And if so, who?
And did they talk about the lifting of sanctions that Obama had slapped on the Russians?
So it is clear now that the Republicans think that they can nail Trump too.
And they have, according to CNN, they are out front demanding an investigation into Trump and Russia with Flynn the bit player.
Flynn's just a guy that made a phone call.
And the Republicans in the Senate don't think Flynn did that on his own.
Somebody had to give him orders to do it.
And if so, who?
Well, let's go through that.
Was it Kelly Ann?
Was it Spicer?
Was it Bannon?
Was it Stephen Miller?
I mean, take your pick of whoever they want to get rid of.
Was it Sally Gates?
Sorry, Yates.
Was it Sally Yates?
Did Sally Yates tell Flynn, you know, you ought to call the Russians and discuss this sanctions stuff with them?
The Obama administration holdover.
Well, there you have it.
I mean, the Republican-led Senate is taking the lead on getting to the bottom of Trump's relationship with Russia.
Here is Elijah Cummings, a member of the Congressional Black Caucasians.
He was participating in a House Democrat press conference to talk about the resignation of Flynn.
This was just before the top of the hour.
Here is what Congressman Cummings, who's in the Baltimore area, had to say.
Flynn was secretly communicating with Russian officials at the same time that Russia was attacking our democracy.
You see?
Flynn may have violated the Logan Act by discussing the sanctions imposed by the United States in response to Russia's attacks.
We have no idea why Flynn was doing all of this and why he was trying desperately to help Russia.
And I know he's now resigned, but he's not going to get off that easy.
We need some answers to a whole lot of questions.
But the obvious questions are, what did the president know?
Right.
And when did he know it?
What did the president know?
And that's the obvious question here.
Why was Flynn trying to help the Russians?
Notice his opening line.
Flynn was secretly communicating with Russian officials at the same time that Russia was attacking our democracy.
See, the Democrats, they just cannot have lost that election because of their ideas.
They cannot have lost that election because Obama was wrecking the economy, destroying health care.
No, no, no, no, no, nothing to do with that.
They lost because the Russians wanted Trump to win.
Look, we're going to jip this thing when it starts.
It's anybody's guess.
Let me start on the phones here so I can get some people who have been holding for a while in on this.
I do have this piece from Foreign Policy magazine I want to share.
It's owned by Washington Post to give you a heads up.
But it's alternately funny and fascinating.
We'll get to all of that in due course.
We're going to start with Sean in Philadelphia.
Hey, Sean, I'm glad you called.
Great to have you on the program.
Hey, Rush, big fan.
I've been listening to you since 89.
I just wanted to call this Flynn thing is making me sick to my stomach.
And it's not just because the Democrats are swarming around.
They taste blood.
They just want to drag this out and bring down Trump.
What really angers me is that the Republicans are silent.
I mean, just imagine if the shoe was on the other foot, this was a Democrat president, and the Democrats had control of both the House and the Senate.
And if this happened to their NSA advisor, do you think they'd be silent?
No, they'd be counter-attacking on the phone.
They'd be trashing people.
Where are our people backing up this president?
Wait a minute.
You think the Republicans would be attacking Obama if this were reversed?
No, I think the Democrats.
I'm saying the Democrats would protect their own.
The Democrats would protect their own president if the shoe was on the other foot.
The Republicans are silent when it comes to it.
It's almost like they want to see him fail.
They want him to go down.
And these Republicans, they do not have a pulse on what we feel out here because, you know, we're still angry at them.
The reason we elected him is because of the Republicans' failure.
They take over the House.
They say they're going to repeal Obamacare.
Then they don't do it.
We give them the Senate.
Then they don't do it.
They're saying, oh, well, we don't have a president.
We give him a president.
Where's the repeal of Obamacare?
What's going on?
And now these guys are swarming.
They're trying to bring down Trump with the Democrats.
Everything is going to be a good thing.
Can you just say they announced they want hearings?
I mean, this is unbelievable.
Well, the Republicans are not being silent, Sean.
You may not have been listening to the program while you were on the hold, but I'm almost afraid to tell you this.
Did you hear what I said about the Republicans just in the last five minutes?
I think I heard something about that they called for hearings, and I hope that was the mistake.
I hope I didn't hear that.
Well, here you go.
The Senate's second-ranking Republican.
These are the guys who think being quiet and that they ought to pipe up and start defending the president.
Ready?
Senate's second-ranking Republican and other Republican senators are calling for an investigation into Donald Trump and his connections with Russia.
And they want Flynn to show up and testify.
Senator Lindsey Graham, hang on.
Senator Lindsey Graham said he wants an investigation into Flynn's conversations with a Russian ambassador about sanctions, and he wants to know, quote, did Flynn do this by himself or was he directed by somebody to do it?
And there's Richard Burr, North Carolina Chairman, Senate Select Committee on Intel, told reporters he hadn't made up his mind yet on whether Flynn should testify, but others think that there needs to be an investigation into Trump and Russia.
This is sickening.
It is.
It's absolutely sickening.
You think that they'd be coming to Trump's defense and badgering the Democrats, and they've joined the Democrats and wanting to get to the bottom of this.
This is according to CNN.
So I take this under advisement.
It could be fake news.
But they've got a lot of this stuff in quotes from these republics.
No, McCain hadn't said anything, but he may as well have.
Lindsey Graham speaks.
You know, it's six of one, half dozen or the other.
The press briefings underway, it looks like they've got Mnuchin up there speaking, Treasury Secretary, so it's going to be a while before the sharks get out of the cage and start taking their chunk bites out of Spicer.
Anyway, I'm really sorry, Sean, to have to impart that information to you when you're so rich.
Because you're right.
I guarantee you that you had people standing up and cheering when you were expressing your desires of the Republicans and why you voted for Trump.
Does any of this, let me just say, are you still there, by the way?
I am.
Does this ask, is any of this Flynn stuff, any of this assault on Trump by the media, is any of it starting to make you question Trump?
No, no.
Trump is doing exactly what Trump said he would do.
And if there's a couple of missteps, you know, administratively, well, the guy's not a politician.
I'm not worried about it.
Flynn didn't do anything wrong.
I mean, you know, unless he wasn't accurate with the vice president.
But other than that, these guys are making it seem like he did something as bad as Susan Rice or, you know, or Hillary Clinton.
But of course, no, our people don't attack them.
You know, we just attack our own.
This is disgusting.
Well, this is all premised.
I'm telling you, from the Democrat standpoint and the media, this is all premised on the fact that they should not have lost this election, that everybody knows Trump should have lost with only 20% of the vote.
Everybody knows Hillary should have wanted a landslide.
The polling showed that.
Common sense said that.
Hillary should have won.
She should be president.
And the only thing that explains this is Russia, Russia and Putin.
And obviously, there's a love affair they have with Trump.
And Flynn proves it because he was on the phone with the Russian ambassador and they think he was telling the Russian ambassador, be cool.
We'll lift the sanctions once we get rid of Obama, get Trump in there.
They don't have any idea that that happened.
I'm sure that's what they think happened.
And so now the Republicans obviously think the way they think.
They think the American people are buying hook, line, and sinker, what the media is saying.
And even if they don't think that, folks, look, there's no mystery here.
This is the establishment versus the outsiders still.
And it was always going to be.
Let me take a break, and we'll judge when to jip the White House press briefing according to what happens there.
Let's get a break out of the way.
We'll come back here in just a second.
Okay, here we go.
Spicer talking about Flynn, the press briefing.
We jip it now.
The situation in eastern Ukraine is one that demands clear and strong condemnation of Russian actions.
President Trump has made it very clear that he expects the Russian government to de-escalate violence in the Ukraine and return Crimea.
At the same time, he fully expects to and wants to be able to get along with Russia, unlike previous administrations, so that we can solve many problems together facing the world, such as the threat of ISIS and terrorism.
The president is currently evaluating a group of very strong candidates that will be considered to fill the National Security Advisor position permanently and is confident in the ability of General Kellogg, a decorated and distinguished veteran of the United States Army, until that person is ultimately chosen.
Before I get into the president's schedule for today, a quick recap of the president's activity over the last few days, since we haven't had the honor of sharing so much time together.
The president's been keeping a close eye on the Orville Dam situation in California.
We've worked closely with Doug LaMalfa, who represents California's first district, where the dam's located, and other state officials to help people who have been impacted.
The situation is a textbook example.
Can I say that?
Let me tell you a little bit what Spicer said before our break ended.
He basically said that the president has been incredibly tough on Russia, is going to continue to be tough on Russia.
They're not going to cut Russia any slack whatsoever.
Clearly, this was intended to rebut the premise out there that Trump is in bed with the Russians and that Flynn was running some advance work for Trump to remove sanctions that the exalted Obama slapped on the Russians for stealing the election from Hillary.
And that seems to be the premise.
So now Spicer's recounting some of the things Trump has been doing.
He's going to get into Trump's schedule for the rest of the day, and then they'll go to the sharks and their bites, which will be the questions for Spicer.
Let me grab another phone call till that begins.
John in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Hey, John, great to have you on the program.
How are you doing?
Doing well.
This is probably the best birthday present I could ever ask for to get to speak to you because I'm a lifelong fan.
Well, happy birthday, my man.
How are you?
Good, good.
So I have two questions.
One, what advice would you give the Trump administration on how to deal with Obama's shadow government?
And two, is this the big gift for the Republicans to finally do away with Trump and his administration?
Yeah, that last question is loaded, and we'll have to see.
Again, I want to preface that.
This is a CNN story.
CNN would love nothing more than to report that the Republicans see this as an opportunity to finally discredit Trump or get rid of him.
And that's exactly what this story looks like.
I mean, this story looks exactly like it's not the Democrats, folks.
It's the Republicans that want to investigate Trump.
Absolutely.
It's the Republicans that want to investigate Trump and Russia.
And if that's true, then I think the answer to it, it's establishment versus outsider.
It's not Republicans versus Trump.
Because the Democrat's going to say the same thing.
If this is true, it means Republicans and Democrats are on the same page where all this is concerned.
And it's, you know, it's a very, it's an exaggerated story with a bloated premise.
And if they see this as an opportunity to get rid of Trump somehow, somewhere to start that process, God bless us.
As to the first question that you had, you know, I've not worked in government, so all I can do is answer as a civilian would without the necessary knowledge and understanding.
First thing I would do, so you've got a story alleging that there's a shadow government made up of embedded Democrats in the bureaucracy.
Common sense would tell me, I don't need a story for that, that I know this.
Common sense would tell me, because I know liberalism and I know who they are and I know how they operate, common sense would tell me from before I was sworn in that there's going to be thousands of Democrats and leftists in the government that are going to be trying to undermine me.
So what I would do, if it were me, I'd root them out.
I would find out who they are.
And as they begin acting, I'd call press conference and point it out to people.
And I would say, here's, I'd name names, and here's what they're doing, and here's who they are, and here's where we think they link to.
I mean, if the purpose of the Trump administration is to reorganize and rearrange the government and take it back for the people, whenever this typical inside the beltway stuff starts, I would call it out.
I would point it out.
I would name names if I could prove it.
I totally agree.
I think that's what needs to happen.
I think he needs to come out and actually just bring it to light and expose these people.
Well, let me tell you what else is going on, though.
This is just a fact of life.
The establishment, not so much these embedded bureaucrats, but there are powerful, wealthy people whose names you don't even know, who are at every level of the establishment.
They're in government.
They're outside of government.
I will guarantee you.
Well, I shouldn't say guarantee because I can't, I couldn't prove this if I had to, but it's common sense to me that Trump has already been given warnings and the what fors, and you better watch yourself.
We're going to let you go only so far if you get too close to home.
Because this is the establishment, these people run the world.
John, not just Washington.
These are the globalists that run the world.
They're just not going to sit idly by while some guy that they don't respect shows up and tries to dismantle it.
And they will use implied threats, direct threats, going after Ivanka and the family and leaking stories that Melania was a hooker and all this stuff is out there.
It's vicious, vicious stuff.
Okay, the sharks and the piranha fish are biting.
We rejoin the White House press briefing.
With what he had sent the vice president out in particular, the White House counsel informed the president immediately.
The president asked him to conduct a review of whether there was a legal situation there.
That was immediately determined that there wasn't.
That was what the president believed at the time from what he had been told, and he was proved to be correct.
The issue, pure and simple, came down to a matter of trust.
And the president concluded that he no longer had the trust of his national security advisor over for the incoming national security advisor, not part of an administration, to be discussing an issue as sensitive as sanctions.
I mean, his job is to discuss issues with his counterparts.
I mean, Charles Krothammer put it perfectly last night.
That's what he's supposed to be doing.
I mean, that's his job.
I mean, we would constantly read out throughout the transition who he was speaking to, how he was getting ready.
The president was receiving congratulatory calls from around the world.
We would read out the world leader calls.
The job of the incoming NSA is to sit down with the counterparts and start that dialogue.
And that's exactly what he did.
So the question wasn't, did he do anything improper or legal?
It's the question of could he be trusted further?
And that trust or the erosion of that trust was frankly the issue.
Can the president instruct him to talk about sanctions?
No, absolutely not.
No, no, no.
But that, no, and there's no, that's never.
So what do you prefer to have not done?
I think the president had no problem with the fact that he acted in accord with what his job was supposed to be doing.
He had the ability to talk about issues that were important, whether it was that or the 30 other countries that he spoke to.
That was part of his job.
As has been noted by many people, that's what the National Security Advisor and frankly other positions do.
They begin the process of preparing their incoming job by talking to counterparts, people who have previously held the job, etc.
If he had not done that, there would be questions as to whether he was properly prepared on day one.
No, the issue isn't whether or not what he discussed.
There's been a complete legal review of that, and there's no issue with that.
The issue is whether or not he failed to properly inform the vice president or not be honest with him or not remember it.
But that's the plain and simple issue.
And when he lost trust with the president, that's when the president asked for and received his resignation.
There you go.
That's it.
That's our story there.
The president said that the president continued to have trust in General Flynn.
What happened between yesterday morning and yesterday evening that led the president to lose confidence in General Flynn?
Well, I'm not going to get into the specifics of where the president's thinking was, but I will just say, as I noted in the opening statement, that it was an evolving and eroding process.
And so at the end of the day, the president made a decision, as he does on all subjects, and asked for and received the national security advisors.
But he is one of those people that we've noted before.
When he's ready to make a decision, he makes it, whether it's hiring somebody or asking for someone's resignation.
Once he has determined that he has made a decision on any subject, that's when he informs his staff.
So going into the day, it was an evolving situation.
He made a determination late in the day, and he executed on it.
Somebody asked him if the media played a role in it.
It was a difficult decision for the president to let General Flynn go.
Well, sure.
I mean, General Flynn is a dedicated public service.
He's headed the DIA.
He has been an outstanding member of the Army, both as an officer and then as a flag officer.
He's served this country admirably.
And I think the president appreciated his service to his nation, his commitment to his campaign, and his service to his country so far.
But at some point, the decision came down on whether or not that trust had eroded.
The important matters, as I mentioned, that are before the president when he's dealing with issues of world matters, of all of the issues, friends and allies, foes, hotspots, he needs to rely on a national security advisor to give him sage advice.
And I think at a certain point, that guidance, that trust eroded.
And the president, as he does on all matters, ultimately decides that when he's ready to make a decision, he executes.
Alexis.
Does the Councilor believe that anything that he discussed with General Flynn during the transition might have been construed by the general encouragement to discuss sanctions with the Russian and NASA?
That's a question of the long ago.
You're watching Sunset Boulevard.
So we're going to pause.
So on the first, again, as I made clear, there's nothing that the general did that was a violation of any sort.
He was well within his duties.
Well, then you got rid of him because the media was handling you.
I will say it again.
What this came down to is a matter of trust.
The president was glad that he was out there conducting his job, preparing for his job, going back and forth with his counterparts throughout the world, much as the president had done.
With all of these world leaders calling the president, congratulating him, looking to set up calls for him once he was inaugurated.
Similarly, General Flynn was beginning that process with his counterparts throughout the world.
That was never of a concern to the president from day one that he was briefed from the White House counsel.
The issue, plain and simple, came down to a matter of trust.
And once that occurred, it was over.
So they got there talking when they're not, that's it.
They lost trust in the guy.
But why?
Did the media cause that to happen?
What happened?
We know from Intel it did.
On sanctions, creates a problem for the president in any way.
That is not a problem that General Flynn discussed sanctions with Russia.
Why don't you guys ask if Trump regrets because he won?
Just get it out.
There was nothing in what General Flynn did in terms of conducting himself that was an issue.
What came down to, plain and simple, was him misleading the vice president having a firm grasp on his recollection of that.
That's it.
Question number two.
Lawmakers and Capitol Hills from both sides of the aisle would like to investigate or probe or ask more questions about this.
Does the president hope to cooperate with those investigations?
Would he instruct members who are in the administration to cooperate with those investigations?
Well, we're going to comply with the law.
I think the president feels very confident the review that was conducted by White House Counsel was very thorough and concluded very conclusively as he had first come to instinctively come to the conclusion that there was nothing wrong.
So, you know, people are free to do what they wish.
But I think that they will find exactly what the president first believed and what the White House counsel concluded.
And frankly, I believe a couple publications even reported that there was no investigation for a reason, because there was not an issue of law, it was an issue of trust.
George.
That's true.
George.
When do you expect to have a replacement in place?
And secondly, on another topic, there was a report yesterday that one of your colleagues said the White House is keeping dossiers on reporters.
Can you say if that's true or not?
That is absolutely not true.
There are no dossiers being kept.
Just a binder that I put right here.
That's about it.
Oh, come on.
That was a joke.
Tell them you got dossiers on reporters.
They're going to want to be in them.
I mean, just like the way he handled this situation, the president will meet with individuals.
And when he's ready to make a decision and he feels as though the person is qualified and can properly advise him on the issue, he'll make that decision.
But as all decisions, rest with him.
I'm just going to go to my first Skype seat, John Huck of WKVVU out of Las Vegas.
John?
Thank you so much on behalf of our viewers here in Southern Nevada for the opportunity to join you today.
As you know, Sean, Las Vegas has suffered terribly in the last recession, more so than perhaps any other city in the country.
With what?
As the administration moves forward with repealing financial regulations and possibly rolling back Dodd-Frank, what guarantees can you make to Nevadans that those actions won't lead banks and investment banks to re-engage with the risky financial behaviors that tanked our economy the last time and left taxpayers here on the hook to bail those banks out?
Thanks, John.
I think one of the things, if you look at the intent of Dodd-Frank, it was to make sure that we didn't have institutions that were too big to fail.
And frankly, it has actually created institutions that are now too big to fail.
We got what we wanted.
We wanted the answers to the Flynn circuit.
And I'll just tell you what I heard.
You correct me if I'm wrong.
Flynn's a great guy.
He was doing a great job.
He didn't do anything illegal.
He didn't do anything unethical.
He just didn't tell the truth to the vice president.
He sent the vice president out there and made the vice president look bad.
The vice president was telling everybody that Flynn did not bring up anything when talking to the Russian ambassador.
And then later we find out that Flynn did.
So he had misled the vice president.
The vice president gone out there and because of that had misrepresented what he thought the truth was.
And so Flynn had lost trust.
Trump had lost trust with Flynn because now once he's lied once or once he's been unsure of what he said to who, and the president feels he can't rely on him anymore, even though he didn't do anything wrong, substantively, he's a good guy, he's a great patriot, strictly a matter of trust.
And that's the answer that Spicer gave it.
He stuck with it no matter what the question was.
But I'll tell you what's going to happen.
In his answer and repeated answers, he obviously repeatedly complimented Flynn.
He talked about what a patriot the guy is, what a great American he is, how great he was doing as national security, but he had just lost the president's trust.
One of the drive-bys said, well, yesterday morning, everything was hunky-dory, and then late last night, you get rid of it.
What happened during the day to cause the trust to evolve?
Well, we're not going to get into the daily machinations of how the president's day goes and this and that.
Suffice it to say it's a matter of trust.
If he missed some people say, no investigation here is even necessary.
Nothing wrong happened.
And he quoted Dr. Klauthammer saying it's much ado about nothing other than the lie to the vice president.
So that's what they're going to try to stick with.
Before we go to the break, I want to amend my answer to the last caller who asked me what I would do to expose a shadow government in the White House.
And I stick by my answer.
But there's one other thing that I would advise the president, because that was a question.
What would you do?
What would you tell the president to do?
I would suggest that the president turn off MSNBC just once a day and replace whatever he watches there with a monologue from this program.
President likes TV, so watch a did-o-cam version of a monologue from this program in any day.
And that would, I think, go a long way to providing valuable assistance to the White House.
That I would do that in addition to everything else that I say.
Okay, Spicer just got to the nub of something here at a break, and this is good.
He keeps trying to steer the media to the story here, what the Trump administration said.
The real story here is the leaks.
And he didn't say this, but I'm just going to tell you, if this had all happened with Obama in the White House and Obama's national security person had made a phone call with a Russian, you wouldn't know about it.
We wouldn't know about it.
Nobody would have leaked it.
Now, the story here is Flynn has this conversation with the Russian ambassador, which most everybody agrees is perfectly normal, understandable, and sensible.
He's the incoming national security advisor.
He's making phone calls, not just to the Russians.
He's calling other foreign governments and setting up future powwows with Trump on the phone.
It's part of the transition.
The reason we know about this is that there was a leak of the substance of the phone call.
And we're now back to this name, Sally Yates, who claims that she knew the details of the phone call and that she tried to warn the president about this when it happened.
She's an Obama holdover.
So Spicer correctly said, we have people in this government who are leaking.
I'll tell you what this is.
Again, I have to speculate.
It's intelligence guided by experience.
I think that there are people in the intelligence community and in the law enforcement community who do not like Trump at all.
It's ideological.
It has nothing to do with what Trump said at any time during the campaign.
It has nothing to do with what Trump said about immigration.
He may have said some things that insulted some intelligence people along the way in the campaign.
But this is ideological.
And by the way, it's also establishment versus outsider.
Many of the people in the intelligence, I'm stunned at how many people, and it's understandable, so I ought not to be stunned, but I nevertheless am stunned by how many Americans think that everybody in law enforcement is a first-class A number one patriot and that everybody in the intelligence community is.
We have 300 million people in this country, and we don't all think alike, and we all don't define patriotism the same way.
And not all of us love America.
And some of them, the leftists, think America's guilty.
Some think that America is the problem in the world.
America is not the solution.
And some of them work in the intelligence community.
Some of them work at the CIA.
Some of them work at the FBI.
Some of them work everywhere.
And if you've got enemies of Trump, because he's not established, he's an outsider.
If you have people there who've devoted their lives to gathering intelligence around the world to protect the United States, but they've got a differing ideology.
I mean, you see The left every day on the protest march, you see how deranged and unhinged they are, and how they put everything about them first, and the country comes second, third, or way even lower down the list.
So, to me, it appears if Sally Yates had the details of the phone call between Flynn and the Russian ambassador, and if she was trying to get hold of Trump, that Trump transitioned to advise them this was going on.
Well, I'm not saying she's the leaker, don't misunderstand, but somebody is, somebody had to leak this.
And it's clear to me that has Trump hired people that he doesn't know were opposed to him.
Has Trump hired people that are working, just now getting settled in the bureaucracy?
I don't think so.
Trump hasn't got that many people confirmed.
It's a known fact that Trump's cabinets, the latest to be confirmed and put to work.
Well, I don't know, secure line.
Why were the you mean Flynn?
Why didn't he want a secure line?
I don't know.
I have no idea why it was, even, but he was if he was on a secure line, somebody either didn't give him one.
I have no idea.
That's just all part of the mix.
Why was somebody able to listen in?
Why was somebody able to tap it?
It's clearly people within the government who have absolutely no use for Trump who are doing their best to undermine him and his administration.
And Spicer basically alleged it.
He alluded to it and told the media: look, I know I can't sit here and tell you guys how to do your jobs, but this is a huge story.
And it happens.
And it's not just to us.
There were leaks in the Obama administration.
Leaks.
Well, that's true.
There have been leaks.
I mean, it's a way of life in Washington.
You're never going to wipe them out.
But the media, if you've got a leak that they like that can help them move their agenda forward, they're not going to have a problem with it at all, like this one.
As I say, if this had happened in Obama's transition in 2008, before he was inaugurated, we'd have never heard about this.
This wouldn't have caused the movement on the Richter scale at all.
Nobody would have thought there was anything about this.
Anyway, we've reached the moment where I have to take another brief time out.
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