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Dec. 1, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 1, 2016, Thursday, Hour #3
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Man, oh man, is my email popping.
What do you mean you don't believe in punishing corporation?
What do you mean?
You just told that caller you don't believe it.
I understand how that sounded.
I had 10 seconds to answer the guy.
So let me explain what I meant.
This is about the carrier deal.
We had a seminar caller right before the uh end of the hour.
Hey, I love what Trump did, man.
I love what Trump did.
It was great.
It was great, it was great, but I really like what Bernie Sanders did.
Bernie Sanders said, Bernie Sanders said if they send their jobs overseas and they're a defense contractor and they get government money, you punish them and take the money away from them.
What do you get?
What do you get?
And I said, I'm not big on that kind of punishment, because that's what Bernie Sanders wants to do.
Bing, our ended.
Let me explain.
This this goes to overall corporate attitudes, as far as I'm concerned.
Greetings and welcome back, 800-282-2882 if you ought to be on the program.
There are all kinds of people trying to figure out the intricacies of the carrier deal.
Carrier has a parent, United Technologies.
United Technologies does business with the government.
And some of the speculation is like one of the emails.
Well, Rush, what are you talking about?
Trump was going to punish him.
He was talking about tariffs on everything they brought back in the country.
I understand that.
Trump's telling manufacturers of automobiles and their products.
Fine, you take the jobs out of here and you build a product, you want the product come back in, 35% tariff.
You're not going to be able to sell that product if you don't make it here.
And people were pointing out to me that that's punishment.
Another form of punishment is what the caller cited as the Bernie Sanders scenario.
And it is that if the if the parent of carrier, United Technologies, does business with the government, and they're threatening to leave, then you go in there and say, fine, you're going to leave.
Then you're also going to leave your government-related business here.
We are canceling all contracts with you.
And that kind of leverage would be acceptable to a lot of people.
The tax relief that might have been, which there was tax relief, about $700 per job is what it adds up to.
You have basically a million jobs saved.
And I think the tax relief here, I get confused.
It's either a million or a billion, but it works out to $700 a job in tax relief that carrier may have been promised, that may have been what the deal is.
So it here's the bottom line.
What did not happen is this.
Carrier is sitting there one day, and Donald Trump calls and says, I really want you to keep these jobs here.
It would really help the country.
It would help me, it would help you.
And Carrier says, you know what?
Good idea.
We are not moving.
That did not happen.
Carrier had leverage.
Trump wanted something.
United Technologies in that circumstance would be foolish to not try to get something.
They at least got the tax relief, which, as I say, roughly adds up to $700 a job.
There's also the fact that United Technologies does have contractual relationships with the United States.
And if Trump had, if Trump said to the CEO, either at Carrier or United Technologies, uh, if you leave, and if you take the jobs, if you shut down that plant, then you can say goodbye to the government contracts that we have with you.
And if that kept Carrier here, if that was part of the decision making, then you might be saying, well, why didn't Obama do any of this?
What what where is the magic in Trump?
And it might be a logical question.
If Trump was able to do this simply by pointing out the leverage that the United States government has, why did the Democrats try it?
All during this campaign, Trump's out There saying he's going to make sure Carrier doesn't leave.
Ditto Ford Motor.
It would have been easy for Obama to pull the rug out from under Trump by simply going in and making this very deal with Carrier.
You take those jobs out of here and we're canceling government contracts.
Or I'll give you tax relief of $700 a job away.
Obama could have done it.
He could have done it in Hillary's name.
Hillary could he could have done it and given Hillary credit for it.
They could have pulled a rug right out from Trump.
Why didn't they do that?
No, no.
I'm asking you to open into question.
They're clearly smart enough to.
They're clearly crafty enough to.
Maybe they weren't taking Trump seriously.
Maybe they didn't think they had to engage in things like this, because Trump had no chance of winning anyway, so why burn political capital this way?
Who knows?
But they didn't do it, and they easily could have.
They could have stolen this right away from Trump.
If what's if this is what's happened, if Trump and Pence went in there and threatened United Technologies with the loss of existing government contracts, or browbeat them and bullied them but did not give them any tax relief.
Whatever happened, Trump went in there, whatever the arrangements are, Obama could have done it.
And in Hillary's name for Hillary, or she could have done it with Obama.
They could have had a credit sharing arrangement, I'm sure.
Why didn't they do it?
Anybody have an answer, Snerdly?
You have an answer?
Why didn't they do it?
If it's this easy, why is any company leaving?
If all you've got to do is bully them, threaten them with uh, say a tariff, or with yanking their government contracts away from them, or uh not offering them tax relief.
And that's where we get into my answer to the guy.
He has, well, Bernie Sanders had a great idea and it's a cancel their contracts, and then they punish them that way.
Uh this is this is gonna seem like a a really technical point.
But I know that Bernie Sanders, as a socialist, resents corporations in the first place and does not have proper understanding or appreciation for who they are and what they do.
In his world, they're nothing but scam artists, or they harm people, or they punish people, they're not people.
Corporations are not people.
Citizens United.
They hate and despite, unless they can find some crony arrangement with a CEO of a particular corporation.
I mean, look at their enemies' list.
Their enemies' list is every successful American industry, not just individual companies.
They hate big oil, they hate big pharmaceutical, they hate big retail.
You know, all the big auto, all of these big industries, they accuse of destroying the climate or of killing their customers or not caring about the health and welfare of their employees or what have you.
So a guy like that, or a woman like Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton in charge of corporate health, I don't think so.
A guy like Trump, who believes in corporations, who understands them because he is one, understands their motivation, understands his leverages uh that he has with them, does not want to harm them, does not want to put them out of business, unless they're direct competitors, of course, then it's a different, but as president he can't engage in that anyway.
So attitudinally, these things uh matter to me.
I'm not copping out on the answer.
I'm just asking you if if if any of these arrangements I've described are what happened to save the jobs at carrier, why didn't Obama do it?
Trump's been talking about saving the jobs at Carrier for a year and a half.
Do you realize I mean they're trying to tell you that it's easy?
It could have been done.
Anybody could have done it.
Trump went in there and did it.
Why didn't Obama do it?
If it's this easy, if it's a matter Of threatening the loss of government contracts.
If that's all it takes to keep a company from relocating to Mexico.
And if Obama had done that, can you imagine the effect on the Trump campaign?
So here's Trump going on and on and on about carrier.
And how it's almost criminal that these corporations are leaving and taking their jobs.
NAFTA this bad trade deals there and all this.
In the middle of that, Obama announces, by the way, I just had a meeting with people at United Technology.
And I'm here today to tell you that they are not leaving.
Media runs off to Trump.
Mr. Trump, Mr. Trump, what do you think of Obama's decision here and his uh his effort to keep carrier?
What do you what wouldn't Trump's answer have been?
And then Obama goes off and meets with Ford and does this.
Why didn't that happen if it's this easy?
Well, don't tell me they're not crafty enough to pull it off.
Well, if you look, if somebody has an answer for me, you'd be more than happy to hear it.
But bottom line is what does everybody know?
What what at the at the end of all this?
The news is carrier is not moving jobs to Mexico.
And the only guy that was talking about making that happen was Donald Trump.
So Donald Trump just ends up getting the credit for saving a thousand American jobs.
And he's not even president.
And that's the story.
Now you can go on and on about the machinations of it and the intricacies of it, but you're not going to be people to pay attention because that's not what they're going to hear.
Because nobody else did it.
And nobody else tried.
Only Trump was talking about it, and it looks like only Trump and Pence tried.
So Trump's going to benefit from this no matter what you naysayers want to try to make of this.
Trump's thank you tour.
Starting in Cincinnati.
His supporters in the White House is regime.
Uh they're not calling it a victory tour.
That's what the media first characterized is a victory tour.
And they the Trump communications feed.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
This is a thank you tour.
And then I saw a story last night that Trump's team had bought $2,700 worth of advertising on an oldies station in Cincinnati to advertise the thank you tour coming to Cincinnati.
Now, when you advertise on an oldie station, by oldies, we're talking 50s and 60s, top 40.
So you're advertising to 55, 65-year-old people.
Why are they advertising this?
What 2700 ad buy on an oldie station in Cincinnati?
And then I found on the audio soundbite roster a piece here from Tom Yama from ABC Good Morning America Today reporting on this.
And here's what his take is.
That Cincinnati rally will be the first public event for the president-elect since winning the election.
And we all know how much Mr. Trump loves those big crowds.
We just checked.
There's still tickets available, but there's a report out this morning that Team Trump has purchased radio ads promoting the event to make sure every seat is filled.
Okay, what's your takeaway there?
Takeaway is that, hey, Trump's gonna go to Cincinnati and it's not sold out.
Hey, Trump's gonna go to Cincinnati, thank you, tour, one of those rallies during a campaign, and uh they're having to advertise to get people to show up.
That's the guy's point.
Hey, you know what?
Maybe Trump isn't that popular.
They're having to advertise to get people there.
Come on, maybe we're all living a lie here about how popular Trump.
That's the impression they're trying to convey.
We'll see how many people show up, and we'll see what the tenor is.
I happen to think it's gonna be a rocking place.
It's gonna be pretty raucous in there.
Uh you think overflowing?
You think satellite video stations outside the venue for people that can't get in?
That's true.
Esther Snerdley just said you did a 27,000 dollar commercial.
Oldie station might have gotten 2700 bucks, but you just gave them 27,000 worth.
They're guaranteed as a sellout now that you mentioned it.
I hadn't thought of that.
But you're absolutely right.
So it is probably now a guaranteed sellout.
Let me grab this call before the break.
I asked this woman to hold on whether she could or not.
She'd her name is Mona in Mountain Brook, Alabama.
Mona, I'm really glad you waited.
How are you doing?
I'm doing fantastic.
It's an honor to get to speak with you.
I appreciate your patience.
I really do.
Thank you.
Yes, I'm a rush baby and I'm raising rush babies.
And um so particularly honored to get to talk to you today.
And we were in Washington, D.C. last week, actually, as my eldest rush baby is looking at colleges up there.
And um I wanted to get your take on what you think it might be like to actually be a college student in DC for the next four years.
But before you answer, I did want to I wanted to mention one thing about the carrier thing and the difference in how Trump got it done versus Obama.
It's the difference in leadership versus the whole philosophy of leading from behind.
I th this is here.
You know what I'm glad you brought that back up.
The reason Trump got it done and reason Obama didn't.
I mean, there is a reason, folks.
It i Obama could have done this and he could have really pulled a rug out from under Trump.
Why didn't he?
There has to be a reason.
And if you go back to the soundbite we played earlier, where Obama says, Well, you know, we can't really stop these jobs from leaving.
What we need are job training centers to uh train people for the new jobs that are coming in.
He doesn't care.
He must think the jobs at carrier are about defunct anyway.
But when I hear these people, this is the important thing, and I'm gonna have to put you on the hold here uh uh Mona to get answer your question after the break.
But the Democrat the the liberal Democrats' view of you as a worker.
You're a cog in a wheel.
When they hit when they talk about job training centers, that means you know it's it's a it's a human factory.
You bring people in, you train them to do this new thing or that new thing, you send them out there to fill some position.
You're a cog and a wheel.
You're not an individual, you're a number.
They plug you in, and if somebody leaves, then they plug you in there.
There's nothing specific, and he didn't care because he thought these jobs are going away anyway, because he's so futuristic and he's so 21st century.
So all these new gigs coming in, Silicon Valley buddies and whatever.
Fix it all with job training centers.
Job trainings.
You just you're just a number to them.
You're just a cog and a wood job training.
Have you ever heard anybody?
Let me ask you this.
How many successful people do you know in your life?
And you've asked them, well, where'd you go to school or how did you prepare?
What did you do to end up being how many of them have you ever heard say, well, I went to a government job training center.
Have you ever met anybody that went to one?
Well, I'll answer my own question there.
One of the reasons Obama would have had trouble doing anything with carrier is Mike Pence.
Uh he's the governor.
It's a state thing that happened here, and Pence would have had to have been involved, and that would have stopped Obama from operating.
Anyway, back to Mona here in Mountain Brook, Illinois.
So you're you're you're you're you're a rush baby and you've raised a rush baby.
It's going away to school in Washington, and I gather you're can it's nerve-wracking, you're concerned what's going to happen to her.
Yes.
And I mean I am grateful that we're going to have a Republican in the White House if and when she's able to go to DC for four years.
I was I was really kind of terrified, thinking it might be a Hillary regime up there.
So but let me tell you a little story.
Let me tell a story.
A woman I know has a daughter in med school in Chicago.
Woman's very conservative.
Her daughter's very conservative.
It's always been conservative.
Her daughter went to Chicago this fall, and in two months became a Hillary voter.
Simply because of peer pressure of the students that she was hanging around with.
She knew she shouldn't do it.
She apologized to her mom.
She told her I voted Hillary and her mother couldn't believe it.
But she did, because everybody in this med school, these students were all for Hillary.
It was Chicago, after all.
Well, they can't all go to Hillsdale, you know.
Uh no, no, I I under I understand.
I'm not being critical.
I'm telling you, you're asking what what's in store.
I mean, you whether Trump's in the White House or not, you're gonna have a bunch of leftists that are gonna try to make sure they still run Washington, D.C. You're gonna have to stay in constant contact with her.
Liberalism's so easy, Mona.
It's so seductive.
Uh and they've done such a good job.
You wait, your daughter's a conservative, she's gonna get up there and people are gonna find out they're gonna, oh wow.
You must you must not want people to be able to speak and vote and and vi and they're really th you know what they think of conservatives.
They're gonna try to shame her.
They're gonna try to put pressure on her.
And all she's gonna have to do is is say, I feel so bad when she sees some suffering and they're gonna love her, and they're gonna think she is wonder it's very seductive.
Liberalism is you're it's I'm not predicting what's gonna happen.
What?
It's altruism with someone else's money.
Exactly right.
But it's also peer pressure.
It's a way of of not being made fun of, not being attacked, uh not being laughed at uh by by your fellow students.
So I doubt she's gonna her core is gonna change, and I wouldn't worry about that.
You've probably done a good job with that.
But don't be so don't don't go away on this note.
Hang on one more moment.
And the saga continues.
And we return yet again to Mona in Mountain Brook, Illinois uh Alabama.
Uh your ultimate question here is you're wondering if it if if your daughter going to college is gonna change her.
Probably thased on my experience, the pressure on her is gonna be immense.
The peer pressure alone, plus in the classroom, the professors.
Uh you probably are gonna notice that she will question a little bit what she's learned at home, may have Mom, they're telling me you have to r have a rejoinder for it.
I don't I I you can overcome it, but I think you'd be wise to be prepared that she might buckle here and there on things.
Yeah.
And we you know, we see it in her twelve year old brother too, who asked us last night, do you believe in global warming?
And we had to tell him no, and why not?
And we know that's what they get taught in schools and had to explain why they get taught that.
And uh, does they don't even need the why?
Remember, it a teacher is an authority figure.
A t a teacher by definition is a teacher.
She knows more than the student, a teacher, and most people do not think the teachers lie, and they don't want to think that teachers lie or propaganda.
It's a it's a it's a tough thing.
That's that's why what we've won here is an election, but really overturning the deep inroads the left has made into our culture is gonna be an ongoing process here that uh i is gonna require a lot more time than just than just one election.
Well, I'm grateful for you, and I'm grateful for your Rush Revere series.
Thank you.
Please don't ever die and don't ever retire.
Is your daughter bribeable?
Oh, good lord, yes, she's a teenager.
All right.
Well, what happened what w what what what would uh the odds be of her remaining a little bit more loyal to you if you were able to say, I don't know, give her a uh a new iPhone when she goes away to school.
Oh, she can we emblazon it with rush on the back?
Well, uh it can be.
I don't have I don't have an uh that you may not want to do that.
If people see that it might cause her even more trouble.
But I can I would love what what what cellular carrier do you you all use?
Uh we use ATT.
Okay.
D do you know if she would want a big one, the the iPhone 7 Plus or just a regular size.
I think she would be happy with whatever you were offering.
Really?
Because the plus the the the seven plus has a better camera, it does better much better battery life, and which is key.
And if you're gonna watch video on it, it's a much bigger screen.
So I'll tell you what, does she she have a she didn't the color preference doesn't matter to her either?
No.
Okay.
Well then I'll send her a jet black.
That's the one that's the hardest to get.
It's the brand new color, the shiny black on the back.
She'll probably put a case on it anyway.
But if you'll hang on here, Mr. Snerd, we'll get your address and we'll fed exit out to you and you'll have that.
At least you can bribe her.
And and then when she starts to go liberal on you, you can guilt trip her.
You even though we gave you a new phone, you're doing this to Washington.
Have fun with it.
And that's the best way to handle this anyway.
And understand she's going away to college and it's a it's under the best circumstances.
It's supposed to be an intellectual growth opportunity.
And you never know.
She she might surprise you.
She might, with what she's going to be exposed to, become even more conservative.
She might reject all this stuff that she's gonna hear.
You've probably done a great job raising her, and now you may be surprised too.
So don't hang up, Mona.
Uh who's next?
Benjamin, Benjamin Miami Gardens, Florida.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Oh, Rush.
It's an honor to talk to you.
Well, great talk.
Thank you, Benjamin.
Yes, uh quickly I wanted to say, I mean, I find out um uh I discovered your channel when I was in New York.
I'm originally from Africa, West Africa.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Yes, so you have a Rush Baby in Africa.
Of course, I live in America, but the Ivory Coast.
Yeah, Ivory.
Do you know my wife spent some of her uh childhood years in Guinea-Bissau?
Oh, yes, it's in the central park of Africa, yes, yes.
So I mean, thank you for everything you do.
Thank you.
I mean, if I was in the White House, I'll give you a medal, uh, the highest possible.
You know.
I learned I learned so much by listening to you.
Oh, the cost of the years, it's unbelievable.
Well, I appreciate that.
I really do.
And if you were if you um if you were giving medals out, I would accept one from you.
Listen, my question was uh the following.
I mean, uh before the election we heard that uh Obama have fifty the highest rating, fifty-five percent or something like that.
Right.
Yeah.
Um I think uh listening a few few minutes ago you said something about the Democrats and Obama's policy West and I think you probably answered one of my part of my question.
I just wanted to know why is it happen?
I mean, if people approve approve him dumb much, how come they didn't vote for whoever he was reporting?
Well uh there's no way of knowing for sure, but I can tell you what I think.
Yes.
Because it doesn't make sense.
I mean, Obama he he he campaigned and he specifically asked people to vote for Hillary to save his agenda.
And to continue his so he made this campaign about him.
We we have to acknowledge that.
He didn't he didn't say elect Hillary because she's great.
Well he did, but he also said you need to save my agenda.
You need to show up and vote for Hillary so that my work can continue.
So he put himself on the ball.
True.
And he got schlacked.
Hillary got shellacked, he got shellaced.
Uh now in the popular vote, no, but the the popular vote's not really representative of national attitudes.
You get because of California, most of these additional votes are gonna c shown be shown to come from California.
But but by every uh let me give you these numbers, in fact, since I have here Benjamin.
Yeah.
Donald Trump won twenty six hundred counties in America.
Hillary Clinton won five hundred counties.
So geographically, Donald Trump won eighty-three percent of the geographic area of the country.
And if you map that, you're gonna see the Democrats' strongholds are New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, maybe a little bit Seattle, and Chicago.
You're gonna see coastal, and then this is the outpost Chicago.
Exactly.
so here what I think explains Obama's approval numbers is that he's a likable person.
The average American who sees Obama on TV, he's a likable guy.
He comes off as intelligent.
And I think there is a distinct racial component.
I think that people, when talking to pollsters and other people they don't know, when being asked to render an opinion on the president will tend toward the positive to avoid anybody perceiving them as not liking him simply because he's black.
So to eliminate any possibility that the pollster or others might think that they are racist or discriminate, they will say, oh yeah, I uh I I love Obama.
I approve of the I approve of the job Obama's doing.
But when you when you poll his policies and he's not part of the question, it's it's a totally different story.
Obama's policy Obamacare, Amnesty, they're way down on the approval list.
They're nowhere near even 40.
But you put him in the question, and he goes to 5355, as you said.
I I just think it's the racial component, and I think it's there's a lot of guilt in America uh uh about racial matters, and people just find it the course of least resistance to say that oh yeah, uh Obama loved the guy, love the job he's doing, and everybody goes away happy.
Well, it's unfortunate people cannot express their true feelings, you know.
This is America after all.
I don't get it.
Benjamin, you know, zero in on it, man.
Especially in America.
But yeah, I mean, uh this election will almost cost me some friendship, you know.
It's it wasn't easy.
It wasn't easy, yeah.
Well, that I know it a lot of people said that, and and and yet you it does you're asking yourself a legitimate question.
How in the world can this happen if the if the president's got a 55% approval number, which is astronomical at this time in a second term print's astronomical.
Like George Bush was in the 30s here.
Now, uh there's another answer to the media has not spent any amount of time beating up on Obama like they do most presidents.
True, true, that's true.
So there's a lot of factors here.
But I don't I don't think you can eliminate the uh racial component.
Because it's real simple.
Pole Obama's policies without him in the question, pfft, it's bad, bad news.
Same questions with Obama in the question, totally different reaction.
So anyway, I actually think, Benjamin, that the racial component here has as has uh been a detriment in that it has paralyzed legitimate criticism.
It has paralyzed and prevented legitimate debate.
I mean, he's the president.
Okay, he's historically first African American president, but okay, fine, feel good about it, but he's still the president.
What he does really, really matters.
And to have debate about that shut down simply because of his race is a paralyzing thing that's not good for anybody, but I think that's what happened.
I have to go, Benjamin.
I really appreciate your call.
Thank you much.
We'll be back here in just a oh, ask him about a fere's uh Clarissa in Minervia, Indiana.
It's great to have you.
How are you doing?
Oh, Sister Limbaugh.
Thanks for having me on the show.
Well, I appreciate that.
I'm glad you you got got got that through here.
It says it says up here you're 14.
Yes.
Fourteen years old.
I am so honored to have you in the audience.
What what can we do for you today?
Um, I just wanted to hear your thoughts on the Department of the Education.
The head of the Department of Education, Betsy DeVoss.
Yeah, there's some controversy developing about her.
Uh over common core and whether or not she and her husband have donated to the Clinton Foundation.
Yeah.
Um, you know, she's denying that she is a supporter and or believer in common core.
Uh I haven't I haven't been able to to to nail down whether or not they're actually donors to the to the Clinton Foundation.
I know the DeVos family, And boy, they're solid.
They're just Clarissa, they're just really solid conservative people.
I don't know her.
I don't know Betsy, and I don't know her husband.
But I know, I know uh uh relatives of theirs, and and everybody that that I trust that is knowledgeable about this is very, very happy with her selection.
She's big on homeschooling, she's uh big on freedom and and and and so forth.
I think it's a good pick from everything I can tell.
Are you worried about it?
No, I think um I like how she supports the school to lease.
And I like how she leads in that because that helps people can't live in that school district.
Okay, cool.
Well, look, Clarissa, I'm glad you called.
Hang on here just a second.
I have to go, but I'm we're not quite through.
We'll be back here in just a second, folks.
Don't go away.
Open line Friday tomorrow, my friends.
That's where you can bring up anything you want.
It doesn't have to be important, and I don't have to care about it.
You can whatever you want.
If you want to try to stump me, if you think I'm wrong about something, whatever, have at it.
That's tomorrow.
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