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Dec. 1, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 1, 2016, Thursday, Hour #3
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Man, oh man, is my email popping.
What do you mean you don't believe in punishing corporations?
What do you mean?
You just told that caller you don't believe it.
I understand how that sounded.
I had 10 seconds to answer the guy.
So let me explain what I meant.
This is about the carrier deal.
We had a seminar caller right before the end of the hour.
Hey, I love what Trump did, man.
I love what Trump did.
It was great.
But I really like what Bernie Sanders did.
Bernie Sanders said, Bernie Sanders said that if they send their jobs overseas and they're a defense contractor and they get government money, you punish them and take the money away from them.
What do you got?
What do you got?
And I said, I'm not big on that kind of punishment because that's what Bernie Sanders wants to do.
Bing our ended.
Let me explain.
This goes to overall corporate attitudes, as far as I'm concerned.
Greetings and welcome back, 800-282-2882, if you ought to be on the program.
There are all kinds of people trying to figure out the intricacies of the carrier deal.
Carrier has a parent, United Technologies.
United Technologies does business with the government.
And some of the speculation is like one of the emails.
Trump was going to punish him.
He was talking about tariffs on everything they brought back in the country.
I understand that.
Trump's telling manufacturers of automobiles and their products, fine, you take the jobs out of here and you build the product and you want the product to come back in.
35% tariff.
You're not going to be able to sell that product if you don't make it here.
And people were pointing out to me that that's punishment.
Another form of punishment is what the caller cited as the Bernie Sanders scenario.
And it is that if the parent of Carrier, United Technologies, does business with the government and they're threatening to leave, then you go in there and say, fine, you're going to leave.
Then you're also going to leave your government-related business here.
We are canceling all contracts with you.
And that kind of leverage would be acceptable to a lot of people.
The tax relief that might have been, which there was tax relief, about $700 per job is what it adds up to.
You have basically a million jobs saved.
And I think the tax relief here, I get confused.
It's either a million or a billion, but it works out to $700 a job in tax relief that Carrier may have been promised.
That may have been what the deal is.
So here's the bottom line.
What did not happen is this.
Carrier is sitting there one day, and Donald Trump calls and says, I really want you to keep these jobs here.
It would really help the country.
It would help me.
It would help you.
And Carrier says, you know what?
Good idea.
We are not moving.
That did not happen.
Carrier had leverage.
Trump wanted something.
United Technologies, in that circumstance, would be foolish to not try to get something.
They at least got the tax relief, which, as I say, roughly adds up to $700 a job.
There's also the fact that United Technologies does have contractual relationships with the United States.
And if Trump had, if Trump said to the CEO, either at Carrier or United Technologies, if you leave and if you take the jobs, if you shut down that plant, then you can say goodbye to the government contracts that we have with you.
And if that kept Carrier here, if that was part of the decision-making, then you might be saying, well, why didn't Obama do any of this?
Where is the magic in Trump?
And it might be a logical question.
If Trump was able to do this simply by pointing out the leverage that the United States government has, why did the Democrats try it?
All during this campaign, Trump's out there saying he's going to make sure Carrier doesn't leave Ditto Ford Motor.
It would have been easy for Obama to pull the rug out from under Trump by simply going in and making this very deal with Carrier.
You take those jobs out of here and we're canceling government contracts.
Or I'll give you tax relief of $700 a job a week.
Obama could have done it.
He could have done it in Hillary's name.
Hillary, he could have done it and given Hillary credit for it.
They could have pulled the rug right out from Trump.
Why didn't they do that?
No, no.
I'm asking you, it's an open-ended question.
They're clearly smart enough to.
They're clearly crafty enough to.
Maybe they weren't taking Trump seriously.
Maybe they didn't think they had to engage in things like this because Trump had no chance of winning anyway.
So why burn political capital this way?
Who knows?
But they didn't do it, and they easily could have.
They could have stolen this right away from Trump.
If this is what's happened, if Trump and Pence went in there and threatened United Technologies with the loss of existing government contracts or browbeat them and bullied them but did not give them any tax relief, whatever happened, Trump went in there, whatever the arrangements are, Obama could have done it and in Hillary's name for Hillary, or she could have done it with Obama.
They could have had a credit-sharing arrangement, I'm sure.
Why didn't they do it?
Anyone have an answer, Snerdley?
You have an answer?
Why didn't they do it?
If it's this easy, why is any company leaving?
If all you've got to do is bully them, threaten them with, say, a tariff, or with yanking their government contracts away from them, or not offering them tax relief.
And that's where we get into my answer to the guy.
He asked, well, Bernie Sanders had a great idea, and it's a canceler of contracts, and they punished him that way.
This is going to seem like a really technical point.
But I know that Bernie Sanders, as a socialist, resents corporations in the first place and does not have proper understanding or appreciation for who they are and what they do.
In his world, they're nothing but scam artists.
Or they harm people or they punish people.
They're not people.
Corporations are not people.
Citizens United.
They hate, and despite, unless they can find some crony arrangement with a CEO of a particular corporation, I mean, look at their enemies list.
Their enemies list is every successful American industry, not just individual companies.
They hate big oil.
They hate big pharmaceutical.
They hate big retail.
You know, all the big auto, all of these big industries they accuse of destroying the climate or of killing their customers or not caring about the health and welfare of their employees or what have you.
So a guy like that, or a woman like Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, in charge of corporate health, I don't think so.
A guy like Trump, who believes in corporations, who understands them because he is one, understands their motivation, understands leverages that he has with them, does not want to harm them, does not want to put them out of business unless they're direct competitors, of course, then it's a different.
But as president, he can't engage in that anyway.
So attitudinally, these things matter to me.
I'm not copping out on the answer.
I'm just asking you: if any of these arrangements I've described are what happened to save the jobs at Carrier, why didn't Obama do it?
Trump's been talking about saving the jobs at Carrier for a year and a half.
Do you realize?
I mean, they're trying to tell you that it's easy.
It could have been done.
Anybody could have done it.
Trump went there and did it.
Why didn't Obama do it?
If it's this easy, if it's a matter of threatening the loss of government contracts, if that's all it takes to keep a company from relocating to Mexico, and if Obama had done that, can you imagine the effect on the Trump campaign?
So here's Trump going on and on and on about Carrier and how it's almost criminal that these corporations are leaving and taking their jobs, NAFTA, this, bad trade deals there, and all this.
In the middle of that, Obama announces, by the way, I just had a meeting with people at United Technologies.
And I'm here today to tell you that they are not leaving.
All those jobs will remain in America.
Media runs off to Trump.
Mr. Trump, Mr. Trump, what do you think of Obama's decision here and his effort to keep Carrier?
What would Trump's answer have been?
And then Obama goes off and meets with Ford and does this.
Why didn't that happen if it's this easy?
Well, don't tell me they're not crafty enough to pull it off.
Well, if you look, if somebody has an answer for me, I'd be more than happy to hear it.
But bottom line is, what does everybody know?
At the end of all this, the news is Carrier is not moving jobs to Mexico.
And the only guy that was talking about making that happen was Donald Trump.
So Donald Trump just ends up getting the credit for saving 1,000 American jobs, and he's not even president.
And that's the story.
Now, you can go on and on about the machinations of it and the intricacies of it, but you're not going to get people to pay attention because that's not what they're going to hear.
Because nobody else did it.
And nobody else tried.
Only Trump was talking about it.
And it looks like only Trump and Pence tried.
So Trump's going to benefit from this no matter what you naysayers want to try to make of this.
Trump's thank you tour.
Starting in Cincinnati, his supporters in the White House, his regime, they're not calling it a victory tour.
That's what the media first characterized.
It's a victory tour.
And the Trump communications people, no, no, no, no, no, no.
This is a thank you tour.
And then I saw a story last night that Trump's team had bought $2,700 worth of advertising on an oldies station in Cincinnati to advertise the thank you tour coming to Cincinnati.
Now, when you advertise on an oldie station, by oldies, we're talking 50s and 60s, top 40.
So you're advertising to 55, 65-year-old people.
Why are they advertising this?
$2,700 and buy on an oldie station in Cincinnati.
And then I found on the Audio Sunbite roster a piece here from Tom Yama from ABC Good Morning America today reporting on this.
And here's what his take is.
That Cincinnati rally will be the first public event for the president-elect since winning the election.
And we all know how much Mr. Trump loves those big crowds.
We just checked.
There's still tickets available, but there's a report out this morning that Team Trump has purchased radio ads promoting the event to make sure every seat is filled.
Okay, what's your takeaway there?
Takeaway is that, hey, Trump's going to go to Cincinnati and it's not sold out.
Hey, Trump's going to go to Cincinnati thank you tour, one of those rallies during a campaign, and they're having to advertise to get people to show up.
That's the guy's point.
Hey, you know what?
Maybe Trump isn't that popular.
They're having to advertise to get people there.
Come on, maybe we're all living a lie here about how popular Trump is.
That's the impression they're trying to convey.
We'll see how many people show up, and we'll see what the tenor is.
I happen to think it's going to be a rocking place.
It's going to be pretty raucous in there.
You think overflowing?
Here they go.
You think satellite video stations outside the venue for people that can't get in?
That's true.
Esther Snurdy just said you did a $27,000 commercial.
The oldie station might have gotten $2,700, but you just gave them $27,000 worth.
They're guaranteed to sell out now that you mentioned.
I hadn't thought of that, but you're absolutely right.
So it is probably now a guaranteed sellout.
Let me grab this call before the break.
I asked this woman to hold on whether she could or not.
Her name is Mona in Mountain Brook, Alabama.
Mona, I'm really glad you waited.
How are you doing?
I'm doing fantastic.
It's an honor to get to speak with you.
I appreciate your patience.
I really do.
Thank you.
Yes, I'm a Rush Baby and I'm raising Rush Babies.
And so particularly honored to get to talk to you today.
And we were in Washington, D.C. last week, actually, as my eldest Rush Baby is looking at colleges up there.
And I wanted to get your take on what you think it might be like to actually be a college student in D.C. for the next four years.
But before you answer, I did want to, I wanted to mention one thing about the carrier thing and the difference in how Trump got it done versus Obama.
It's the difference in leadership versus the whole philosophy of leading from behind.
Here, you know, I'm glad you brought that back up.
The reason Trump got it done and reasoned Obama didn't.
I mean, there is a reason, folks.
Obama could have done this, and he could have really pulled a rug out from under Trump.
Why didn't he?
There has to be a reason.
And if you go back to the soundbite we played earlier, where Obama says, well, you know, we can't really stop these jobs from leaving.
What we need are job training centers to train people for the new jobs that are coming in.
He doesn't care.
He must think the jobs at Carrier are about defunct anyway.
But when I hear these people, this is the important thing, and I'm going to have to put you on the hold here, Mona, to answer your question after the break.
But the Democrat, the liberal Democrats' view of you as a worker, you're a cog in a wheel.
When they talk about job training centers, that means it's a human factory.
You bring people in, you train them to do this new thing or that new thing, you send them out there to fill some position.
You're a cog in a wheel.
You're not an individual.
You're a number.
They plug you in, and if somebody leaves, they may plug you in there.
There's nothing specific.
And he didn't care because he thought these jobs are going away anyway, because he's so futuristic and he's so 21st century.
It's all these new gigs coming in, Silicon Valley buddies and whatever.
Fix it all with job training centers.
Job trainings.
You're just a number to them.
You're just a cog in a wood.
Job training.
Have you ever heard anybody?
Let me ask you this: how many successful people do you know in your life?
And you've asked them, well, where'd you go to school?
Or how did you prepare?
What did you do to end up?
How many of them have you ever heard say, well, I went to a government job training center?
Have you ever met anybody that went to one?
Well, I'll answer my own question.
One of the reasons Obama would have had trouble doing anything with Carrier is Mike Pence.
He's the governor.
It's a state thing that happened here, and Pence would have had to have been involved, and that would have stopped Obama from operating.
Anyway, back to Mona here in Mountain Brook, Illinois.
So you're a rush baby, and you've raised a rush baby.
She's going away to school in Washington.
And I gather it's nerve-wracking.
You're concerned what's going to happen to her.
Yes.
And I mean, I am grateful that we're going to have a Republican in the White House if and when she's able to go to D.C. for four years.
I was really kind of terrified thinking it might be a Hillary regime up there.
Let me tell you a little story.
Let me tell you a little story.
A woman I know has a daughter in med school in Chicago.
Woman's very conservative.
Her daughter's very conservative.
It's always been conservative.
Her daughter went to Chicago this fall and in two months became a Hillary voter simply because of peer pressure of the students that she was hanging around with.
She knew she shouldn't do it.
She apologized to her mom.
She told her I voted Hillary and her mother couldn't believe it.
But she did because everybody in this med school, these students, were all for Hillary.
It was Chicago, after all.
Well, they can't all go to Hillsdale, you know.
No, no, I understand.
I'm not being critical until you're asking what's in store.
I mean, whether Trump's in the White House or not, you're going to have a bunch of leftists that are going to try to make sure they still run Washington, D.C. You're going to have to stay in constant contact with her.
Liberalism's so easy, Mona.
It's so seductive.
And they've done such a good job.
You wait, your daughter's a conservative.
She's going to get up there and people are going to find out.
They're going to, oh, wow.
You must not want people to be able to speak and vote.
You know what they think?
A conservatives.
They're going to try to shame her.
They're going to try to put pressure on her.
And all she's going to have to do is say, I feel so bad when she sees some suffering, and they're going to love her.
And they're going to think she is wonderful.
It's very seductive.
Liberalism is, I'm not predicting what's going to happen.
What?
It's altruism with someone else's money.
Exactly right.
But it's also peer pressure.
It's a way of not being made fun of, not being attacked, not being laughed at by your fellow students.
So I doubt she's going to, her core is going to change.
I wouldn't worry about that.
You've probably done a good job with that.
But don't go away on this note.
Hang on one more moment.
And the saga continues.
And we return yet again to Mona in Mountain Brook, Alabama.
Your ultimate question here is, you're wondering if your daughter going to college is going to change her probably.
Based on my experience, the pressure on her is going to be immense.
The peer pressure plus in the classroom, the professors, you probably are going to notice that she will question a little bit what she's learned at home, may have, mom, they're telling me, and you have to have a rejoinder for it.
I don't, you can overcome it, but I think you'd be wise to be prepared that she might buckle here and there on things.
Yeah, and we see it in her 12-year-old brother, too, who asked us last night, do you believe in global warming?
And we had to tell him no, and why not?
And we know that's what they get taught in schools and had to explain why they get taught that.
They don't even need the why.
Remember, a teacher is an authority figure.
A teacher, by definition, is a teacher.
She knows more than a student, a teacher.
And most people do not think that teachers lie, and they don't want to think that teachers lie or propaganda.
It's a tough thing.
That's why what we've won here is an election.
But really overturning the deep inroads the left has made into our culture is going to be an ongoing process here that is going to require a lot more time than just than just one election.
Well, I'm grateful for you, and I'm grateful for your Rush Revere series.
Well, thank you.
Please don't ever die and don't ever retire.
Does your daughter, is your daughter bribable?
Oh, good Lord, yes.
She's a teenager.
All right.
Well, what would the odds be of her remaining a little bit more loyal to you if you were able to say, I don't know, give her a new iPhone when she goes away to school?
Oh, can we emblazon it with Rush on the back?
Well, it can be.
I don't have an you may not want to do that.
If people see that, it might cause her even more trouble.
But I would love.
What cellular carrier do you all use?
We use AT ⁇ T.
Okay.
Do you know if she would want a big one, the iPhone 7 Plus, or just a regular size?
I think she would be happy with whatever you were offering.
Really?
Because the 7 Plus has a better camera.
It does much better battery life, which is key.
And if you're going to watch video on it, it's a much bigger screen.
So I'll tell you what, color preference doesn't matter to her either?
No.
Okay.
Well, then I'll send her a jet black.
That's the one that's the hardest to get.
It's the brand new color, the shiny black on the back.
She'll probably put a case on it anyway.
But if you'll hang on here, Mr. Snurdy will get your address and we'll FedEx it out to you and you'll have that.
At least you can bribe her.
And then when she starts to go liberal on you, you can guilt trip her.
You even though we gave you a new phone, you're doing this to us.
Have fun with it.
And that's the best way to handle this anyway.
And understand she's going away to college and it's under the best circumstances.
It's supposed to be an intellectual growth opportunity.
And you never know.
She might surprise you.
She might, with what she's going to be exposed to, become even more conservative.
She might reject all this stuff that she's going to hear.
You've probably done a great job raising her.
Now you may be surprised, too.
So don't hang up, Mona.
Who's next?
Benjamin, Benjamin Miami Gardens, Florida.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Oh, of course.
It's an honor to talk to you.
Well, thanks.
Thank you, Benjamin.
Yes.
Quickly, I wanted to say, I mean, I found out I discovered your channel when I was in New York.
I'm originally from Africa, West Africa.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Yes, so you have a Rush baby in Africa.
Of course, I live in America, but.
The Ivory Coast.
Yeah.
Do you know my wife spent some of her childhood years in Guinea-Bissau?
Oh, yes.
It's in the central park of Ivory.
Right, right.
In Africa, yes, yes.
So, I mean, thank you for everything you do.
Thank you.
I mean, if I was in the White House, I'll give you a medal, the highest medal possible.
I learned so much by listening to you.
Oh, the cost of the years.
It's unbelievable.
Well, I appreciate that.
I really do.
And if you were giving medals out, I would accept one from you.
Listen, my question was the following.
I mean, before the election, we heard that President Obama had fifty highest rating, 55% or something like that.
Right.
You know, I think listening a few few minutes ago, you said something about the Democrats and Obama's policy were sent fucking.
I think you probably answered one of my question.
I just wanted to know why they happen.
I mean, if people approve him that much, how come they didn't vote for whoever he was reporting?
Well, there's no way of knowing for sure, but I can tell you what I think.
Yes.
Because it doesn't make sense.
I mean, Obama, he campaigned, and he specifically asked people to vote for Hillary to save his agenda and to continue his.
So he made this campaign about him.
We have to acknowledge that.
He didn't say elect Hillary because she's great.
Well, he did, but he also said, you need to save my agenda.
You need to show up and vote for Hillary so that my work can continue.
So he put himself on a ballot.
True.
And he got schlacked.
Hillary got shellacked.
He got shellacked.
Now, in the popular vote, no, but the popular vote's not really representative of national attitudes.
Because of California, most of these additional votes are going to be shown to come from California.
But by every, let me give you these numbers.
In fact, since I have you here, Benjamin, Donald Trump won 2,600 counties in America.
Hillary Clinton won 500 counties.
So geographically, Donald Trump won 83% of the geographic area of the country.
And if you map that, you're going to see the Democrats' strongholds are New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, maybe a little bit Seattle, and Chicago.
You're going to see coastal, and then the outpost of Chicago.
There's a blue spot on the edges, yeah.
Exactly.
So what I think explains Obama's approval numbers is that he's a likable person.
The average American who sees Obama on TV, he's a likable guy.
He comes off as intelligent.
And I think there is a distinct racial component.
I think that people, when talking to pollsters and other people they don't know, when being asked to render an opinion on the president, will tend toward the positive to avoid anybody perceiving them as not liking him simply because he's black.
So to eliminate any possibility that the pollster or others might think that they are racist or discriminate, they will say, oh, yeah, I love Obama.
I approve of the job Obama's doing.
But when you poll his policies and he's not part of the question, it's a totally different story.
Obama's policy, Obamacare, amnesty, they're way down on the approval list.
They're nowhere near even 40.
But you put him in the question and he goes to 5355, as you said.
I just think it's the racial component.
And I think there's a lot of guilt in America about racial matters.
And people just find it the course of least resistance to say that, oh, yeah, Obama loved the guy.
I love the job he's doing.
And everybody goes away happy.
Wow, it's unfortunate people cannot express their true feelings.
This is America, after all.
I don't get it.
Benjamin, zero in on it, man, especially in America.
Yeah, I mean, this election almost cost me some friendship.
You know, it wasn't easy.
It wasn't easy.
Well, I know.
A lot of people said that.
And yet it does.
You're asking yourself, it's a legitimate question.
How in the world can this happen if the president's got a 55% approval number, which is astronomical at this time in a second term?
It's astronomical.
Like George Bush was in the 30s here.
Now, there's another answer to the media has not spent any amount of time beating up on Obama like they do most presidents.
True, true, that's true.
So there's a lot of factors here, but I don't think you can eliminate the racial component because it's real simple.
Poll Obama's policies without him in the question, it's bad, bad news.
Same questions with Obama in the question, totally different reaction.
So, anyway, I actually think, Benjamin, that the racial component here has been a detriment in that it has paralyzed legitimate criticism.
It has paralyzed and prevented legitimate debate.
I mean, he's the president.
Okay, he's historic the first African-American president, but okay, fine.
Feel good about it.
But he's still the president.
What he does really, really matters.
And to have debate about that shut down simply because of his race is a paralyzing thing that's not good for anybody.
But I think that's what happened.
I have to go, Benjamin.
I really appreciate your call.
Thank you much.
We'll be back here in just a second.
Oh, ask him about a here's Clarissa in Minervia, Indiana.
It's great to have you.
How are you doing?
Hello, Sister Limbaugh.
Thanks for having me on the show.
Well, I appreciate that.
I'm glad you got through here.
It says up here, you're 14.
Yes.
14 years old.
I am so honored to have you in the audience.
What can we do for you today?
I just wanted to hear your thoughts on the new Department of the Education, the head of the Department of Education, Betsy DeVos.
Yeah, there's some controversy developing about her over Common Core and whether or not she and her husband have donated to the Clinton Foundation.
Yeah.
You know, she's denying that she is a supporter and or believer in Common Core.
I haven't been able to nail down whether or not they're actually donors to the Clinton Foundation.
I know the DeVos family, and boy, they're solid.
They're just, Clarissa, they're just really solid conservative people.
I don't know her.
I don't know Betsy, and I don't know her husband, but I know relatives of theirs.
And everybody that I trust that is knowledgeable about this is very, very happy with her selection.
She's big on homeschooling.
She's big on freedom and so forth.
I think it's a good pick from everything I can tell.
Are you worried about it?
No, I think I like how she supports the school to believe, and I like how she leads in that because that helps people who can't live in that school district.
Okay, cool.
Well, look, Clarissa, I'm glad you called.
Hang on here just a second.
I have to go, but we're not quite through.
We'll be back here in just a second, folks.
Don't go away.
Open Line Friday tomorrow, my friends.
That's where you can bring up anything you want.
It doesn't have to be important, and I don't have to care about it.
You can whatever you want.
If you want to try to stump me, if you think I'm wrong about something, whatever, have at it.
That's tomorrow in 21 hours.
We will be here.
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