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Nov. 25, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 25, 2016, Friday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 Podcast.
Yes, America's Anchorman is away, and this is your undocumented anchor man, Mark Stein.
No supporting paperwork.
Whatsoever.
Honored to be here, live from our own little Sanctuary City at Ice Station EIB in far northern New Hampshire.
It's a it's a safe space.
I hope you had a great uh great Thanksgiving.
Uh they were saying uh don't don't talk about politics round the turkey, and uh that's particularly good advice if um you happen to be, say, a young female charity worker in Manhattan taking uh the kids to spend Thanksgiving with grandma and grandpa upstate in Chappaquorth, so that's that's very good advice.
Rush will be back on Monday, but it is the end of the week and the start of the Christmas season, and you know what that means.
Live from Ice Station EIB, it's open line Friday!
Absolutely.
In fact, it is open line Black Friday, one-eight hundred-two eight two eight eight two is the number to call.
No host imposed hierarchical supremacist strictures on what you can talk about.
It's all yours.
Uh and because this isn't just a regular open line Friday, because it's open line Black Friday, we're extra generous, we got some terrific deals.
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Uh there are some great bargains uh out there today, by the way, if you haven't yet left for them all.
Uh, they don't usually have massive storewide clearances at the Clinton Foundation.
Uh, but uh John Podesta and uh and and Sid Blumenthal uh had a big meeting with Bill and Hillary and said, Well, you know, in uh in light of uh what's happened, you might want to consider a few Black Friday bargains at the Clinton Foundation, and Bill and Hill thought about it and said, Okay, for one day only, we're reducing the cost of a 20-minute Bill Clinton speech about diarrhoea in Africa from two million dollars down to 1.8 million dollars.
And I thought, wow, that is a steal.
You know, a deal like that uh isn't gonna come again.
So I was there when the joint opened this morning, and there's like masses of people uh everywhere.
The the the sidewalk is jammed by Gulf Amirs and Kazakh and Uzbek oligarchs that crawling all over the place, and it's every man for himself.
So I uh I push my way through to the front and I find myself between the King of Morocco and the King of Saudi Arabia, and King Salman turns to me and says, Hey, hey, buddy, uh quit shoving.
Uh they don't open for another twenty minutes, and uh and I say to him, is uh is this the line to snap up that great Bill Clinton uh bargain diarrhea speech for one point eight million dollars?
And all the kings and emirs laugh at me and say, No, you infidel schmuck.
This is the line to get your money back.
And I'm thinking the laughs on them, because everyone knows at the Clinton Foundation it's no refunds or returns.
All sales are final.
Uh but there's uh there's bargains everywhere today for uh for all you Broadway fans out there looking for a night to remember at the hottest ticket in town.
They've got a fabulous Black Friday sale at Hamilton.
If if you're a Republican hate monger, and let's face it, there's no other kind.
If if you're a Republican hate monger, but you can only afford 900 bucks for a restricted view seat at the curtain speech, uh the cast of Hamilton will now come all the way up to the upper balcony and single you out for public shaming and hectoring right in your cheap seat.
So you don't have to be, you know, fifth row central uh for them to come and hector you about what a hater you are.
Uh they'll actually come up to you all the way up in the cheap seats uh in the restricted view seats and they will hector you and public shame you today.
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Tonight on Broadway, Hamilton at the Richard Rogers Theatre, they will be singling out losers in the cheap seats for public shaming.
At the DNC, by the way, there's massive storewide clearances, massive storewide clearances on incoming chair Keith Ellison's uh Louis Farrakhan and Muslim Brotherhood Connections.
Uh everything must go.
Whoops, it's already gone.
Too late.
It's all in the dumpster out back.
So nobody in the media will be able to report on any of those Lewis Farrakhan and Muslim Brotherhood connections.
1-800-282-2882, whatever is on your mind.
I'm happy to talk about it today.
Anything you want to talk about, as we are in the interregnum between the Obama era and the Trump era, uh last time I was here behind this microphone was two months ago.
And I said Donald Trump would win the election.
And that was back when all the smart guys were telling you it was going to be a Hillary landslide and that Trump would cost Republicans control of the Senate and a bunch of other down ticket races.
And I said no, he's gonna win.
So I got nothing to prove.
I got nothing to prove.
And as for all that Democrats will take the Senate stuff.
How about this from Paul Cain in yesterday's Washington Post?
Headline.
Senate Democrats lost by doing nothing to separate themselves from Hillary Clinton.
Now they tell us.
Whereas throughout the campaign, all they were telling us was that it would be Senate Republicans who would lose by doing nothing to separate themselves from Donald Trump.
That's the story they were all running with for the previous six months.
My own senator, Kelly Ayott, took the bait and separated for herself from Trump, and oddly enough, uh nobody's heard from her since November 8th.
She doesn't seem to be around anymore.
And now the Washington Post explains, oh, pay no attention to last year's coverage.
Uh that was just a typing error.
When we said Trump was a drag on Republicans down ballot, we meant that Clinton was a drag on Democrats down ballot.
Sorry about that.
What what happened on November the eighth was that uh Trump exploded the very concept of quote conventional wisdom, uh, which is what all the smart guys agree is going to happen in their in their self-reinforcing bubbles.
And if you're a Republican who happens to get caught inside that self-reinforcing uh media bubble, like Kelly Ayott, Kelly Ayott watched uh CNN and NBC, and she read the Washington Post and the New York Times, and she believed all this nonsense about having to separate yourself from Trump, and so she's gone.
She's history.
Um and what happened on November the eighth is that Trump exploded the very idea that there is uh conventional wisdom.
It's conventional, but it isn't wise.
And it always has a certain smugness about it.
It's the con condescension you hear in Christian Amonpour's voice when she's explaining things on CNN.
It's the laugh you hear from a daily show audience.
It's the applause you you get from a Broadway crowd that's paid four, and bucks to hear an actor condescend to the vice president of the United States.
And and there's a certain self-satisfaction about it.
Uh that applause at Hamilton, that they're applauding themselves.
And that laughter on the Daily Show, they're laughing at you.
And it's one thing to be smug when you're winning.
But indestructible smugness after you've lost on the scale that the Democrats lost two weeks ago is deeply weird and actually psychologically unhealthy.
So we're going to get into a bit of that because what they're telling us, what they're telling us, is that despite getting everything wrong for the last year, uh, they're going to carry on with business as usual for the next four years.
They've learned nothing.
They've learned nothing.
And we're going to get into a bit of that and whatever else you want to talk about on today's show.
It's Black Friday on America's Number One Radio Show.
And uh at the DNC, it's the final closing sale for white males.
Yes, every white man must go.
Uh How Dean is running uh the former uh Vermont governor is running again for DNC chairman.
Now this guy was the hottest thing out a decade ago.
All the cool kids liked him.
He was uh big on social media uh just at the very dawn of social media.
He was so cool, he was edgy, he was different, he was out there.
And now Bernie Sanders presidential campaign spokeswoman who is called uh Simone Sanders, no relation, has said that Howard Dean is yesterday.
We don't need him.
Quote, in my opinion, we don't need white people leading the Democratic Party right now.
The Democratic Party is diverse, she told CNN, and it should be reflected as so in our leadership and throughout the staff at the highest levels, from the vice chairs to the secretaries all the way down to the people working in the offices at the DNC, Simone Sanders said.
Uh and so she says, Howard Dean, we don't need him.
He's a white guy, and we're all about diversity.
And when you're diverse, it means you got no room for white guys like Howard Dean.
This guy was the coolest thing out.
He he was he was the coming man, he he was the hipster.
He was the one all the kids loved, and now he's too white.
And that's from Simone Sanders, who was uh no relation, but she was Bernie Sanders' uh spokeswoman.
Uh and then we have this from a Hillary superpat leader called Quentin James, who who tweeted out I like US Senator Bernie Sanders, but his comments regarding identity politics suggest he may be a white supremacist too.
So this is this is the Democrat this is how the Democratic Party learns after losing the election because it lost Wisconsin, uh because it lost Pennsylvania, uh because it lost Ohio, because it lost Michigan.
Uh they're now saying the problem is we got two we need to unload.
There's like five white men left in in uh our party and we need to get rid of them.
At Howard Dean he's got to go.
And Bernie Sanders, he's a white supremacist.
So this is it.
This is what they've done now.
They're defining Bernie Sanders and Howard Dean as white supremacists in the Democratic Party.
Will the Democrats learn from what happened on November the eighth?
Uh if you want to talk about that and anything else, the lines are all yours.
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Uh great to have you with us.
Um the the the the insanity that is going on on the other side in response to the uh what happened on November the eighth uh is not ending.
And it's and it actually confirms uh all it does is confirm why the result on November the eighth went the way it does.
The latest is from Fashionista.
Now, Fashionista, as I'm sure you know, is one of the biggest fashion sites on the internet.
And uh I I don't follow that myself.
I'm I'm uh I'm not up on uh the latest collections and all the rest of it, but uh uh Power Line uh blog does follow it, and I'm indebted to John Hinderacre over there because he is a dedicated follower of fashion, and he did follow what they're saying at Fashion Easter.
Uh for eight years it has followed Michelle Obama's every Wardrobe change with knee jerk sycophancy.
But now it's worried about how to handle the prospect of a Republican First Lady.
Quote, after eight years of meticulously documenting our first lady's White House wardrobe, Fashionista plans on taking a big step back next year.
And then it goes on about how what a fabulous fashion sense Michelle Obama had for the next three thousand words, and then says, on January twentieth, twenty seventeen, a new First Lady will take up residence in the White House.
Melania Trump, a former model, though not of the high fashion variety, meow, saucer of milk for Miss Fashionista, uh not of the haute couture variety, Melania Trump, a former model, whose campaign wardrobe consisted of high-end, largely off the rack pieces.
Another meow, another source of milk for Miss Fashionista, largely off the rack pieces by Gutch Gucci.
Yes, the infamous Pussy Bo, another sorcerer milk.
Uh Roxander, Roland Murray, Emilia Wickstead, and even Ralph Lorena, even Ralph Lorraine, the horrors, will be thrust into the spotlight, leaving her with some Michelle Obama-sized sartorial shoes to fill.
Um I think Fashionista is saying that uh Mrs. Obama has large feet there.
Uh as if this task isn't difficult enough, she'll be on the arm of President elect Donald Trump, whose victory in the electoral college stunned even the most trusted media outlets.
Yes, it did.
Uh and if you trusted them, you're a chump, because they misled you.
And they told you uh it was going to be a Hillary landslide, and that the Republicans were going to lose the Senate, and that and that never happened.
So if they're the most trusted media outlets and you're one of the people who trusts them, then you're a sap and a sucker, and you deserve everything they get.
Uh Fashionista says, then said the election of President elect Donald Trump sent waves of panic throughout the country, especially among marginalized groups who fear for their safety.
That's why they're all out in the streets rioting and looting.
That's how terrified they are.
Uh Trump andor his vice president elect, Mike Pence, have been openly hostile regarding LGBTQWERTY equality, same-sex marriage, female reproduction rights, immigration reform, and international trade.
Stances that not only alienate a good portion of the fashion community, but the nation as a whole.
And so that's amazing, actually.
All these all these this open hostility from Trump, according to Fashionista, alienates the nation as a whole.
The whole nation was alienated.
Yet mysteriously, this Trump guy managed to win the election.
That's very strange.
And this is why we plan on having no part in normalizing the Trump family, particularly when it comes to cataloguing the first lady's fashion choices.
Fashionista is putting its hands on its hips and saying, What are you wearing for the next four or eight years?
And then flouncing off out of there in a huff.
They're not gonna play along by writing about the first lady's fashions.
Because Trump alienates the nation as a whole.
This is amazing.
You know, they're they're talking now about having recounts in three suing for recounts on three uh in three states because on the grounds that the uh Putin hacked into the computers and delivered the election to Trump or whatever it is.
Uh uh because they can't accept the fact that it's not a one-party state.
In a one party, it was supposed to be like when Saddam Hussein uh or Hosni Mubarak held an election.
One year Hosney Mubarak held an election and uh they made him win with 98% of the vote.
And he he called in the guy and he was absolutely furious, and he said, I'm not one of those dictators, those joke dictators who wins ninety-eight, ninety-nine percent of the vote.
I wanted to just steal the election with a plausible ninety-two, ninety-three percent of the vote.
And that's how the Democrats had gotten to think of it, and that's how Fashionista had gotten to think of it, and that's how the media had gotten to, and the Academy and all the other people.
They'd gotten to think uh that it was a one-party state and they win the ascendant and the other guy never got to win and they can't handle this and when they use phrases like they're not gonna normalize the Trump family, normalize the Trump family.
John Oliver, that guy who has a show on some channel sometime late at night, uh he said this too, you know, that he wasn't going to pretend that this is a normal, normal.
When you talk about denormalizing people, that is actually a totalitarian act.
Half the country voted for this guy and he's president because he won under the Constitution.
And when you're talking about denormalizing him, what you're actually talking about then is a totalitarian act because you're not just do declaring him beyond the pale.
You're not just declaring the half of the country that voted for him beyond the pale.
You are actually uh putting the existing constitutional order of the United States beyond the pale and saying that unless you you spoil little Dweebs.
Unless you win, it doesn't count.
Yes, Rush is out uh today.
He is uh still up to his neck in Turkey drumsticks and uh he will be back on Monday.
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Um overseas Israel is burning today but burning uh large tracts of the country uh including the third biggest city are ablaze and it uh it appears that this is actually uh the the work of terrorism that it's part of the it's part of the jihad they use whatever it is to hand that at one point in Israel they were just randomly stabbing people.
At Nice, a few months ago, a guy rented a truck and killed 85 people.
Use whatever you have to hand.
Use a kitchen knife, use a car, but kill the Jews, kill the infidels.
And Israel is ablaze.
And a Canadian imam, Mazin Abdul-Adim, who's a prominent imam in London, Ontario, which is, if you drive from Detroit to...
Windsor is basically uh straight up from there it's uh very easy to get to London Ontario uh Mazim Abdul Adim a prominent Canadian imam has been celebrating the fact uh that Israel is ablaze.
May Allah cause the winds to increase and the fires to spread far and wide and burn their illegitimate properties and all their beloved belongings to ashes and take from them what they took from the people of the pure land of Alexa and its surrounding area, he said.
So he wants, he's celebrating these uh this arson, in fact, is terrorist arson in Israel.
He's he's he's loving it.
He can't get enough of it.
The more that burns, the more people flee, the more people who die and are burned to death.
This imam, let's let's give him his name, uh Mazin Abdul Adim from London, Ontario.
He's a Canadian imam.
He's one of my compatriots, technically.
Uh dunno how he feels about the uh Dominion of Canada.
I don't know whether his heart flutters when he uh s hears the strains of O Canada.
Dunno whether he clutched his bosom when he took his oath of allegiance to the Queen, uh, but he is in law my compatriot, and he wants Allah to burn the whole of Israel.
Then we have this story from France, where uh French police sources uh arrested uh people last week planning to launch attacks uh on December the first.
They were planning uh terrorist attacks on the Christmas market on the Champs-Elysée and also on the Disneyland Paris theme park just on the edge of the city.
So the French police and uh anti-terrorists and soldiers, because they got soldiers on all the streets over there.
They got soldiers outside post offices, soldiers outside schools, soldiers at radio stations, railway stations, they're all working overtime because they uh uh France has been in a state of emergency now for over a year, and they're all exhausted, and they've just managed to nip in the bud uh this uh terrorist attacks planned for December the first.
Uh and then we have this story from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who's revealed uh that in fact uh during his interrogation, uh that Al Qaeda favors immigration to defeat the United States.
He admitted that uh destroying America through military attacks was a long shot and unlikely to happen.
Uh, but he said that immigration uh would lead to uh them outbreeding non-Muslims who would use the legal system to install Sharia law.
This is in a new book called Enhanced Interrogation by a CIA contractor, James Mitchell, who interrogated a lot of the big shot Al-Qaeda guys at Gitmo, included Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
Um and the in this interview, in this interrogation of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, um, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed says that they've got a much bigger plan than just uh blowing up stuff in America and uh 9-11 attacks.
They said the easiest way to win is just to flood the country with like-minded Muslims through the country's easy immigration laws, and by having babies uh and then using the U.S. legal and welfare system, they will eventually turn the country into a system like Iran.
And you can laugh at this.
Uh eventually, KSM said, America will expose her neck to us for slaughter.
Uh and you can laugh at his theory to basically transform the country by immigration.
But that is exactly what is happening in Germany right now.
It is exactly what is happening in Sweden right now, where these uh these Swedish patsies, these Swedish dupes uh for this uh demographic transformation are calling for the building of purpose-built Islamic cities, new cities all around Sweden housing approximately 50,000 people.
This was one of the biggest issues that drove the Trump campaign.
And uh and and there's two vital uh aspects of of how he's gonna get on top of it.
The build the wall thing is real.
Build the wall, uh he committed himself to this wall.
He committed himself to regaining control of the borders.
He committed himself uh to appointing people, serious people, particularly at the Justice Department and Homeland Security, uh, who would address these issues.
But otherwise, if you don't do anything about it, you end up with an exhausted police force uh as they have in France, scrambling, scrambling, scrambling, uh to to plug a thousand different holes in the dike uh as terrorist plots bubble up here and terrorist plots bubble up there,
and then when they do happen, like when the guy killed the two guys killed the French priest, and one of them's actually wearing an ankle bracelet because he's meant to be under surveillance, and the other one is a former worker at Charles de Gaulle Airport.
You can't catch them all.
Uh, and so the more you led into the country, the more you're gonna have to try, more people you're gonna need to try and keep an eye on all these things.
Then we have uh w then we have the situation in Canada where you got Imams uh actively glorying in the possibility of mass slaughter, and for all the talk about safe spaces and triggers and microaggressions and hate crimes and all the other phony baloney that you hear about from liberals all the time.
Somehow, uh when a big shot imam calls for the death of all the Jews or calls for homosexuals to be thrown off buildings, or says that it's perfectly legal and indeed perfectly good uh for men to beat their wives.
Somehow, none of the hate crime, safe speech, microaggression triggering talk ever applies to the big shot imams.
So this was a bottom line issue for Trump, a big issue for Trump.
And all the people who are pushing back, there's some college now.
We've got sanctuary cities.
Uh what's this college?
A Wesleyan.
Wesleyan College.
Uh the the president of Wesleyan College has declared that his college is a sanctuary college.
So by the way, uh any of you undocumented guys, wherever you are, go to Wesleyan College and move into the dorms, because he's going to give you sanctuary, that guy.
Go there.
You might think you need a six-figure sum to go to Wesleyan College.
No, you don't.
He's declared it a sanctuary college.
Go there today.
Go and sit in on a transgender and colonialism master's class and just sit there for your heart's content, because this guy at Wesleyan College has declared that it's a sanctuary college for all you undocumented millions and millions out there.
If you're an undocumented American, if you're one of these undocumented Americans, a fine upstanding member of the undocumented American community, and you have always had a yen to do an eight-year bachelor's in transgender and colonialism studies, then he's saying, come on down.
Wesleyan College is an uh sanctuary college.
And so you can go there, move into the dorms, uh, move into the classrooms, and just uh make yourself feel at home.
Because the president has said it's a sanctuary college.
This was one of the issues, uh, the biggest issues driving Trump's campaign.
And the critical appointment now, he's got a good appointment at justice.
The critical appointment is Homeland Security, and he needs a guy who agrees with him on this at Homeland Security, and that's a that's a critical appointment.
You can you can mess around on the edges of some of this other stuff.
I don't really care who's uh US ambassador to the UN, because I don't really believe there should be a US ambassador to the UN, or in fact a UN.
And I don't even and I certainly don't believe it should be a cabinet position.
It isn't anywhere else.
Uh but uh that's on the periphery of what's important and what matters.
The homeland security job is critical, and he's got to im he's got to uh appoint someone willing to uh effect the Trump vision of secured borders uh rather than simply just uh uh dissolving them and drowning in the way that France and Germany and Sweden are drowning right now.
Uh we will take your calls on open line Black Friday straight ahead.
One way or another, I'm gonna get you.
That's the uh that's the new national anthem uh from the media democrat uh complex.
Uh they'll get you on something.
They'll you're Islamophobic, you're homophobic, you're transphobic, they're gonna get you.
There'll be a new phobia along in a minute.
They're gonna getcha.
Uh just to issue a clarification.
I think I said Wesleyan College.
Uh in fact, it's Wesleyan University.
If you if you're one of the millions, the legions of undocumented Americans stampeding uh to this new sanctuary college, it in fact is Wesleyan University in Connecticut.
The president Michael Roth has proclaimed it a sanctuary college.
Uh and I got a little confused because he used the word college, but in fact it's Wesleyan University in Connecticut, and Not to be confused with uh Wesleyan College in Georgia.
Don't go stampeding there and moving into the dorms, because they'll kick you out unless you've got a checkbook with a big bunch of zeros on the end of your checks.
Wesleyan University in Connecticut is the Sanctuary College, not Wesleyan College in Georgia, nor indeed Wesley College in Dublin, which is was my dad's uh high school uh for any of you uh Irishmen out there.
It used to be on uh St. Stephen's Green in the heart of Dublin, just across from the Shelburn Hotel, but they've uh they've moved it, they moved to a new thing a couple of miles away.
Let us go to Kyle in Laguna Niguel, California.
Kyle, you're live on the Rush Limbo Show.
Great to have you with.
It is a pleasure to talk to you.
You're my favorite guy from across the pond, let me tell you.
So it's just it's great to be on, and I can't believe I got through.
So it's great to have you with us.
Yeah, um I am a millennial conservative from California.
It's hard to believe.
I just had to spell that out there.
Uh I think that's the the world's least detectable demographic uh if you all get together, you can fit in a Honda Civic, I think.
Uh that's great.
Maybe a smart car.
But um anyway, my question pertains to uh the position of Secretary of State specifically for years.
My family and I have been saying that if the conservative or someone like Trump ever got in, uh we would want to see someone like John Bolton be Secretary of State.
And I'm just wondering why he's not being kind of thrown about in the media at all, or is it because he's related to the Bush foreign policy?
Or I just want to know what your thoughts are, and if Giuliani would be better fit for Homeland Security than Secretary of State.
Well, well, look on John Bolton, I think there's no doubt there's there's a lot of people around the Trump campaign who do not want uh John Bolton because they do see him as a uh legacy of the Bush era, and they feel that um the Bush era is not popular with the uh Republican base, and uh they want to make a clean break.
My sense of John Bolton, by the way, they they think of him as a quote neocon, unquote.
My my sense of him is uh Kyle, is that he's uh actually someone who believes in the effective prosecution of foreign policy.
I I remember being in a in a meeting, a sort of conference with a big bunch of European foreign ministers, and John Bolton answered a question in uh about international law, and he said international law does not trump the US, and he used the word Trump, does not trump the U.S. Constitution.
And I was sitting next to a guy who was uh Prime Minister of Finland at the time, and he said to me, this man cannot be serious, can he?
In other words, that uh John Bolton's devotion to US sovereignty rendered him self-evidently unfit uh to be in a room with all these European foreign ministers.
So I don't buy him as uh as a uh as someone who believes in ineffectual nation building.
I I b I think he believes in national sovereignty, and he uh believes um basically in in uh the uh uh traditional uh uh uh I think it was Lord Palmerston who who said England has no uh has no permanent friends and no permanent enemies, only permanent interests.
And uh John Bolton believes in advancing the permanent interests of the United States.
But there's a problem in that uh a lot of the Trump people think he's he's uh associated with that ineffectual nation building uh in Afghanistan uh and in Iraq.
And uh that is that is a problem for him that makes him a tough sell to those guys.
But we will see how it turns out we will see how it turns out, Carl.
Got to run.
I'm on a hard break.
We'll resume this conversation uh momentarily.
Uh speaking about who's gonna become uh Secretary of State, Kellyanne Conway had some uh interesting tweets uh over the last couple of days in in which uh she said that she'd received a deluge of social media and private communications uh cautioning against making Mitt Romney uh Secretary of State.
Uh and then she tweeted uh additionally that uh she liked fellows like George Schultz, uh who flew around the world less but counseled the president closer to home more.
But she is interesting, she's gonna she's opening up about uh not being quite on board uh supposedly or getting a lot of pushback on the Romney thing.
I have only one thing to say about Mitt Romney.
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