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Oct. 19, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 19, 2016, Wednesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
I am I'm I'm serious here, folks.
Why is Hillary doing this debate?
I just saw I just saw a still shot of Hillary getting off the airplane when she arrived in Las Vegas yesterday.
She was on the steps.
You know, her airplane's a Boeing 737.
She's have to roll the stairs up to it.
She's getting off it.
I'm just telling you, she doesn't look like she's gonna look tonight.
That's but why she's got nothing but there's nothing to gain by doing this tonight, right?
I mean, it seems to me if you if you make a calculation, she's got everything in the world to lose here and how much to really gain.
Maybe, I don't know, maybe they think they're just gonna finally hammer that last nail in this coffin and be done with it forever, not just this election.
Greetings, my friends.
Ready to have your Rushlin ball behind the golden EIB microphone here at the EIB network.
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Here's an exclusive story that's running on Reuters today.
The headline White House plans community-based prevention of violent ideologies.
Really?
What are violent ideologies and who gets to determine that?
Who gets to define what is a violent ideological?
We know what this is.
Here are the details.
The new White House plan aims to convene teachers and mental health professionals to intervene and help prevent Americans from turning to violent ideologies.
Work that is now currently mostly done by law enforcement, says a draft of the policy as seen by Reuters.
The 18-page plan that is going to be announced today marks the first time in five years that the regime has updated its policy for preventing the spread of violent groups.
What they're talking about here is conservatism, folks.
Authorities blamed radical and violent ideologies as the motives for attacks in the last year in Charleston, South Carolina, San Bernardino, California, Orlando, Florida, New York, and New Jersey.
Now you might have, well, wait a minute, Rush, some of those attacks in San Bernardino, that's that's uh Islamic extremists.
Yeah, but Obama's not worried about that.
Orlando, that's that's that's the guy that blew up the gay bar.
That again, another Islamic uh no, no, Obama doesn't care about that.
And New York and New Jersey, a self-styled white supremacist is accused of shooting dead nine black people inside a historic African American church in Charleston, and the other shootings and bombs were inspired by Islamist militants.
Both Republicans and Democrats in Congress have questioned Department of Homeland Security officials over the delay in updating the department's approach to countering recruitment strategies by the Islamic State, which controls part of Iraq and Syria and other groups.
Under the new guidelines cutting to the chase here, local intervention teams made up of mental health professionals, faith-based groups, and educators and community leaders will assess the needs of individuals who may be showing signs of converting to a violent ideology.
I don't think there is any doubt.
When you talk about this kid that blew up or shot people in the church, they're gonna associate that with conservatism.
We know that the Department of Homeland Security in Obama's first term released internal documents warning of the dangers posed by violent right wing groups.
So you say, well, yeah, but Obama's leaving.
Doesn't matter.
The left runs everything in Washington, no matter who the president is, and this work will continue.
I I I think that there's no question that an ongoing effort to stamp out or intimidate anybody who happens To lean in any direction to the right is going to be undertaken.
And I just wanted to mention this here at the top, uh, while everybody's attention here is focused.
It's a big debate.
It's the last debate of the of the season.
And no matter where you look, folks, everybody in the drive-by media is say this is over.
It's all over, but the actual voting, it's all over, but the shouting.
I mean, even these websites that you can you can bet on the outcome, even some of those websites in the UK are already starting to pay off.
Before the votes have even been taken, they're starting to pay off on people who invested or made the bet that Hillary was going to win.
But it isn't over.
I'm sitting here thinking of the contrast.
Now I'm going to ask you some questions to which they're obvious answers.
But if you go back to just the Republican primary period during the calendar, and you look at that campaign and Trump in it, Trump was just dominating and dwarfing everything and everybody, nobody even had a chance, nobody was even ever really close to Trump in the Republican primary.
Now the media treatment of Trump then was obviously different.
There weren't any Democrats involved, so the drive buyers were not actually defending anything, and they were helping to build Trump up.
They were helping to establish the Trump myth.
But the point is that during that period of time during the Republican primary, massive amounts of American people love Donald Trump, did they not?
I mean, it was something like nobody had ever seen in politics before, at least in their lifetimes.
You couldn't find seats, empty seats in a Trump rally, it would just captivated everything.
Now you fast forward to today.
Did all of those people who just couldn't get enough Trump.
Now, admittedly, we're talking Republican primaries.
But don't forget there were a lot of Democrat crossover votes in certain open state primaries.
Did a lot of or many of those people who just totally loved Trump and were totally invested in his campaign.
Have they gone away now?
Have they vanished?
Have they been humiliated and embarrassed?
Has the media finally convinced them that Trump's the bad guy they've been telling them he is, and they finally admit it now?
All the things that they knew about Trump back during the Republican primary are things people know today.
There really isn't anything new in terms of the perception of Donald Trump, other than instances of people having come forward or tapes of Trump from 10 or 11 years ago, but none of it portrays a Trump that nobody thought didn't exist.
Sorry for the double negative.
In other words, there aren't any real surprises that have occurred about Trump.
The opinions that people had of him back during the Republican primaries are pretty much the same.
But yet, we are being led to believe that Trump's support doesn't exist anymore.
And Trump's support is walking away and abandoning him at a record clip.
And why is this happening?
Well, this is happening because the media, while they ignored Trump during the primaries, is all of a sudden starting to focus on him and tell everybody what a reprobate and bad guy he is.
And now the people in this country who ignored all of that about Trump during the primaries, now they're paying attention to it, and they're saying, oh wow, this guy really is a bad guy.
I think I made a mistake liking this guy back during the primaries.
I think I'm going to abandon Trump.
Is that what's happening here?
That's what they want you to believe.
They want you to believe that they're actually persuading ardent Trump supporters to abandon him in droves here.
Now, don't misunderstand.
I know that this is a different campaign than the primaries.
The opposition now is Hillary Clinton and the Democrat Party, of course, the establishment.
The opposition is the media, where that wasn't so much the case during the Republican primaries.
In the Republican primaries, the media hated everybody.
So they sided with Trump for the entertainment value, got their ratings up and so forth, televised everything Trump did.
But there were stories about Trump and this and that.
I mean, what we've learned about Trump in the last two months was not anything anybody didn't know or suspect, other than supposed eye witness testimony having come forward.
But what would make people back in the Republican primary days, let's say from last August until March or April, or maybe even May.
People that love Trump and couldn't get enough Trump and were going to support Trump no matter what, from last August to May, all of a sudden, starting in June and July, some of those people began to abandon Trump, and now they're supposedly abandoning Trump and droves.
And they're finally realizing the media wants us to live, finally realizing that Hillary Clinton is the only sensible choice here.
Something about that equation doesn't register properly with me.
But that's the narrative.
That is the story.
And again, what is that?
That is a that that is a a narrative, a story, a tale, if you will, that is exactly the way the establishment portrays presidential politics every four years.
I maintain you cannot apply the standard conventional wisdom or political playbook of a presidential campaign to a guy like Trump because he's not in it.
He's not in the business, he doesn't have any history in the business, not many fingerprints on policy, doesn't have a record.
So the only thing that they've had to go after Trump on is personal things, character things, not policy-related things.
Hillary Clinton ought to be sitting there at 55 or 60 percent if the story they're telling is true, but she's not.
Now she is ahead by 11 points in one poll, 12 points by another, uh, seven points over here.
The LA Times poll that's had Trump up now is tied, Rasmussen is tied.
But I'm just I'm trying to, I'm trying to envision how many people who were totally into Trump during the primaries who are now abandoning him and walking away for Hillary Clinton.
I'm having a tough time understanding how that happened.
I would never abandon whoever the Republican nominee was.
I would never abandon whoever it was for Hillary Clinton.
But apparently that's beginning to happen and has been happening for the past, oh what, two weeks, three weeks, months?
Everybody's bought into this narrative.
Everybody's bought into this meme.
And it's led by polling, it's defined by polling.
Something about it is just I don't know, strange.
It's all confusing out there.
Because a lot of things that we're told are happening to me are at odds with human nature.
Let me ask it a different way.
I mean, I could be dead wrong about this too.
Going back to the primaries, say from August until March or April, how much of the support for Trump was soft?
How much of it was people strictly voting party line, as an R next to his name, so that's the guy I'm supporting.
How much of Trump's support was elastic and loose?
I mean, they want us to believe that a lot, they want us to believe that a tape from 2005 and a couple other things released, can cause massive numbers of people to abandon Trump.
But why were they with him in the first place then?
If this is the if this is all it takes, then this is in the in the history of campaigns.
This is all it's taken.
This is exactly how they defeated Mitt Romney.
It's exactly how they defeated McCain.
It's exactly how they tried to defeat George W. Bush.
Every campaign features the Republican nominee being treated as a pariah.
The Republican nominee demonized.
Every campaign, doesn't matter who the Republicans nominate, same thing.
And every campaign, same thing seems to happen.
People that originally liked the Republican nominee all of a sudden seem to end up being convinced by the Democrat Party and the media that the guy they originally supported is indeed a villain and a reprobate and not worth their support.
And thus they abandoned.
Same pattern.
Every four years, every presidential election, this is in my lifetime, this has been the pattern, and it's being repeated now.
Something about it still doesn't jibe.
I, folks, I have no inside knowledge of anything.
I don't know what's going to happen.
I'm just sharing with you the way I react to all of this.
And knowing what I know, it's really hard.
It is really hard to trust things that come from the drive-by media anymore.
It's tr it's it's it's really hard.
But yet the stuff is seductive because that's all there is, essentially.
But I just it it's it's the creation of a narrative that depicts human behavior in ways I don't understand.
I know there are undecided out there, I don't know how many there really are, but the way people change their minds, make up their minds about who to support, I mean, if you're supporting Trump from the get go, what are you supporting?
You are totally opposed to status quo.
If you're supporting Trump, a political novice who has no experience whatsoever, and who has entered the race with specific objectives.
Why in the world how in the world could you be talked out of that and persuaded to vote for the exact opposite of why you supported Trump in the first place?
This is what they want us to believe is happening.
In mass numbers, I can understand it two or three people here, a hundred people, I don't know, but I can't, these these massive shifts in people supporting, maybe it's true.
Maybe people are less committed than than we think they are.
I just think that if you if you signed up for Trump from the get go, there are specific reasons that haven't changed.
The establishment's still the establishment, and they are worse than ever.
And it's more obvious that the game is rigged than ever.
Why in the world would you abandon it?
Your opposition to it.
Why would you give up at the moment of truth if you really feel like something needs to be changed?
Why would you abandon the effort to change at the last minute?
But that's what they want us to believe is happening.
I've taken a break, we will do that, come back with much more just getting started here at the EIB network.
Hang tough, folks.
More with you coming up as well.
Greetings, welcome back.
Already have somebody on the phone who wants to offer an opinion.
The observation I just shared.
It's Bruce in Lima, Ohio.
Great to have you here, sir.
Hi.
Rush.
Man, I can't believe I'm talking to you.
Well, here you are, sir.
Wow, I I've been following you since 1988.
Well, that makes you that makes you a lifer.
Thank you very much.
Yes.
And uh, well, uh, as far as your analysis of of what the perception is like people are leaving Trump and drove, I don't think that's the case at all.
I don't think he's really had that much of support as people think.
I think, you know, he had just that bare 40% of the Republican Party from the beginning during the primaries, and I don't think he's done a very good job of building a coalition and getting the rest of the party behind him.
I think he's been too uh uh too divisive.
I myself was a big uh crew supporter, and I was very, very reluctant to side with Trump until I started really paying attention more to Hillary and how corrupt she is.
And I think there's no way Hillary should be anywhere close to the White House.
And I reluctantly am gonna have to vote for Trump.
Wait, here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
That's exactly right, and I don't know a single Republican who doesn't say that.
Well, wait.
That's not exactly true.
There are some Republicans in the media who don't say that.
But that's my point.
Look, I understand what you're saying that Trump never really had massive Republican support.
The reason he won this thing is because there were 15 other Republicans vying, and that vote was divided and cut up in all kinds of ways, and it didn't take much for Trump to win.
But so at the end of the day, while Trump is the Republican nominee, he didn't have even majority support of the Republican Party.
And now you're saying he's failed to put that coalition together.
He doesn't even have the full Republican Party behind him, much less is he peeling off any Democrats and others.
So that's that's that's what you're saying.
But yet you you say Hillary Clinton has no business being a white.
I don't know any Republican who thinks that either.
Other than some in the media.
Look, I don't want to name any names, you know who they are, magazine writers and website people, but uh outside of uh people that live in Washington, I don't know a single Republican that wants to vote for Hillary, so why are they?
Okay, so our last caller said Rush.
Yeah, Trump won, but I don't think he ever had majority support of the Republican Party.
It was divided.
That vote was divided many ways, and he after he won the Republican nomination, he wasn't able to put together a coalition.
He wasn't able to unite the Republican Party, much less anybody else.
So his support isn't that broad.
Well, I would maybe maybe be so, but I'm gonna remind you of some things here, folks, that I'm I'm sure you have forgotten.
Let me first ask you a question.
You pick does Trump, do you think Trump has less support from the base than Mitt Romney had in 2012?
I don't know the answer.
I'm just asking you what you think as you ponder these things.
Remember, we're told that anywhere from two to four million Republicans did not vote in 2012 because they were dissatisfied with Romney as the nominee.
Theoretically, that was because Romney was not conservative and didn't fight back, whatever the reasons were.
And those numbers are disputed.
That away Republican establishment figures, oh no, no, no, no, it's not two million people, it's not four million people that didn't show up, and it's not because he was a conservative, so they've got their answers to it, but the fact is a significant number of Republicans who did vote in 2008 did not vote in 2012.
That's number one.
So it's Trump's support even less than what Romney had.
Number two.
Trump in the Republican primaries got more votes in the Republican primary than Mitt Romney ever did.
And Romney was not running against nearly as many opponents as Trump was.
There aren't that many open primaries in the Republican primary season, meaning he couldn't have gotten significantly more votes from Democrats than Romney got, because there aren't that many open primaries for that to happen.
Remember all of the new voter registration numbers we were hearing?
That Republicans were registering in droves during the primaries, and that Trump got more votes.
Do you remember this?
Trump got more votes in the Republican primary than anybody ever has.
What happened to them?
What in the world happened to them if if that's all true?
Where did they go?
Where are they going?
Are we to believe that they weren't all legitimate, that it was another sting operation run by the Democrats?
There was a bunch of Democrats registering and voting Trump just to fool everybody.
Who knows?
I mean, people will conjure up all kinds of theories to explain things that they can't.
But if, you know, we're we're we're we're living in the moment, of course, and so it takes an effort to go back and remember what things were like during the primaries.
During the primaries, Trump didn't have any serious opposition, and that frustrated a lot of people.
Remember the traditional ways of winning the Republican nomination, none of them worked.
Jeb Bush had 115 million dollars, got six delegates.
Jeb Bush had the full support of every powerful entity in the Republican establishment.
He got six delegates.
Trump did not have an organization.
Trump did not have state uh offices all that.
You remember all those things being said that Trump was, he didn't need he's not ready for this, he can't, he's not got a ground game, and yet he ends up getting more votes in the Republican primary Than any Republican ever has with a large field.
And that was because more people turned out to vote in the Republican primaries than had in a long time.
And voter registration was skyrocketing at the same time.
According to real clear politics, Trump received about 13.3 million votes during the primary.
That's 1.8 million votes more than the previous record held by George W. Bush.
And yet it is believed, and it's not to casting it to prayer caller, because I think a lot of people probably agree with him.
Even though Trump gets this record number of votes, he somehow doesn't have the support of the Republican base.
Well, where did well then who are those voters?
Where do they come from?
If they're not the Republican base, and I will admit to you, and I even reminded people back then a lot of Trump's support was not quasi so-called conservative.
There are many Americans fed up with the Democrat Party, fed up with the establishment who are not specifically ideologically ordained conservatives or movement conservatives.
They may live their lives that way, but they don't call themselves that.
And they don't think in those terms.
But they think of themselves as Republicans or outsiders or people fed up with the system or however you want to describe it.
And remember this too that during the Republican primaries, there were endless polls that said Trump was declining.
There were polls during the various stages of the primary, maintaining the premise that Trump was losing support.
And then there would be a primary election, and Trump would win in a blowout.
And people the polls said I'm not doing anything here.
I'm not trying to construct a scenario for the polls being wrong.
Don't misunderstand me.
I'm just trying to remind people some history because what I'm what I'm experiencing here is that period of time during the primaries, and Trump is causing brand new Republican registration and Republican turnout unseen, unprecedented, record numbers,
and now we are to believe that many of those people have finally seen the light and have realized the error in their ways and are now ready once again to vote for the continuation of things that they said they opposed so much that they supported Trump.
And we are to believe, and many people do, that the reason so many people are abandoning Trump is because they are embarrassed over the tape from Access Hollywood, and they are embarrassed over the way Trump went after Miss Universe, and they are embarrassed the way Trump talks about women, and they're embarrassed this, embarrassed that.
And so all the reasons that Trump was generating record registration, record support, record Republican turnout of primary is all gone or is vanishing.
And traditional politics is surfacing once again, and the American voters are voting and making decisions and answering poll questions as they always have.
And they are universally now in what appears to be landslide numbers maturing and they're growing, and they're realizing the error of their ways in supporting Trump way back when and are now prepared to sign on with Mrs. Clinton, to sign on with the establishment, because they have come to grips with the fantasy that they were living.
It's much the same way they try to change minds on climate change.
They out there promoting the issue, and they are humiliating people that don't buy it and don't believe it, but they're always offering a chance for absolution.
And if you finally admit that you have contributed to this problem, there is salvation for you.
You have been doing things to destroy the planet.
You have been doing things to destroy the climate, but you can make amends.
Same thing here.
You have been on the verge of destroying The American financial system.
You're on the verge of destroying the American political system with your support for this maniac Trump.
But people are realizing that Trump is exactly what the media says he is.
And people are now siding with and agreeing with the media in droves and abandoning Trump.
That's what they're asking us to believe is happening.
And who knows?
The reason why I'm asking questions about it is because Trump is not of the system.
And has never been judged as part of the system from the get-go.
And that is the primary reason why.
Trump has been supported, and it's the primary reason why all of these so-called character defects, which were known during the primaries, didn't cause anybody to abandon Trump.
But now that Hillary Clinton is there, and there's somewhere really worthwhile going if you abandon Trump.
I mean, if you abandoned Trump for Ted Cruz, who would do that?
If you abandoned Trump for Marco Rubio, who would do that?
But if you prepared to abandon Trump for Hillary Clinton, well then you are coming to your senses.
And the American people are finally seeing things as they should be, exactly the way the media wants you to.
Endless polls during the GOP primary said Trump was declining.
And every time there was an election shortly thereafter, he would win mostly and win big, leaving people scratching their heads, coming up with explanations.
Remember, all of the expert analysts, the campaign consultants, the political commentators and pundits, and all of their wild guess explanations as to why Trump was surviving, why he was thriving.
It didn't make any sense to them.
Now all of a sudden, Trump bombing out and people abandoning Trump and droves.
Why now that makes sense?
Everything's as it should be.
And that's the narrative.
And that's what you're up against each and every day.
And I know for a fact with intelligence guided by experience that lots of people fall for it every four years.
We'll be back.
Project Veritas, James O'Keefe, the videos that prove Democrat corruption, that prove it's the Democrat Party, the Hillary campaign that was responsible for all of the protests at Trump rallies.
James O'Keefe can't believe his videos aren't being covered.
He can't believe that his videos are being ignored by the dried-by media.
He fully expected to be guesting on all kinds of shows with this, with his videos being shown to the nation.
He can't believe it.
You know what?
One of the things, Robert Kramer, this Robert Kramer, I'm going to get to the phones here real quick.
This Robert Kramer guy that Scott Fovell, we played the audio tape from the videos from James O'Keefe yesterday.
And this Scott Fovell with direct contact of the Hillary campaign reporting to this guy, Kramer, who also had direct access to the Hillary campaign.
He's the husband of Democrat Congresswoman Jan Schikowski.
He is the architect.
He was the guru.
He was the guy that all of these underlings looked to for inspiration.
It turns out that this guy who oversaw the Trump rally agitators visited the White House 342 times and had something like 47 person-to-person meetings with Obama.
But it's just coincidence, you see.
Oh, yes.
Kramer, by the way, has now resigned his position.
As Foval has been fired from his position.
But they're just going to be lateral moved someplace.
They don't get fired.
They actually get bonuses and awards and accolades and all kinds, like Dan Rather did for trying to fake story on the National Guard against George W. Bush.
Robert Kramer, responsible, the architect of all of these paying the homeless and busting them to Trump rallies and having them wear t-shirts to incite Trump supporters.
It was the Democrats that started the fights that started the fires that started the fisticuffs.
And it was planned and orchestrated by this guy, Kramer, using his underlings like Scott Falvel.
And now we find out that Kramer met with Obama, who is the top dog of all of this, community organizer supreme.
Who lectures us on civility after all of this happens?
After the Democrats go in and raise hell at Republican events, Obama then goes on and rings his hands and talks about sorry he is, and how we must become more civil to one, and he's the guy pouring gasoline on it all and lighting the match.
It all comes from the top.
The decision not to indict Hillary Clinton, the decision to leave her alone on the emails, the attention not to punish her Benghazi, it all comes from the top.
Okay, anyway, back to the phones.
We have uh more evidence of this coming up.
I just wanted to get that off my chest.
I don't want too much time to go by without mentioning this to you.
Uh again, there's no reason any of you in this audience ought to be even thinking of supporting Hillary Clinton.
It ought to be the most foreign concept to you that you could ever imagine yourself doing.
If any of you in this audience are thinking of supporting Hillary Clinton, you need somebody to grab you by the shoulders and shake you.
You need to get a grip.
Because everything you think is wrong in this country is directly traceable to the Democrat Party, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, you name it.
Maybe you want to blame the Republicans for some of it, go ahead, but you cannot find Donald Trump fingerprints on anything going wrong in this country.
Not a single thing.
Trump hasn't been there.
Here's Matt, Lincoln, Nebraska.
You're next.
Great to have you, sir.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
Hey, uh, first thing is your previous caller, I got a call together on that.
They've been listening to you since 88, and it just recently figured out that Hillary was corrupt, and so they're going to support Trump.
That just sounded a little weird to me.
Second thing is, I'm pretty active in politics in Nebraska.
I have not heard one single person state that they're not going to vote for Trump, that they're pulling their support from Trump.
What I have heard is from Democrats that I know that have said they're not voting for Hillary, but they're also not voting for Trump.
And when they're called on these polling places, they think that the pollers think that they, just because they say they're not supporting Trump, um, that they're putting them down as supporting Hillary.
Oh, really?
Well, no way to track that.
But but if that's true, I wouldn't be surprised.
Look, here's another way of looking at this, and I appreciate Matt your call.
Is Hillary more popular than Obama?
No way.
Obama, mystifyingly, actually, not so mystifyingly, is at 55% approval.
There is no way Hillary Clinton's anywhere near that.
She's hard.
Her negatives are as bad as Trump's or as high as Trump's are.
Now, like he said, he doesn't know any Republican.
I don't know any Republicans voting for Hillary.
I know some.
Well, it's not true.
Look, I there's some people at National Review.
I don't know what they're gonna do, but they're not gonna vote for Trump.
I don't know if they're voting for Hillary or not.
You know that there are a lot of Republicans out there during the primaries who who said they would vote for Hillary.
A lot of Republican establishment types, but I don't know.
I mean, just in my social life and the people I come into contact with.
And by the way, some of these people were not for Trump during the primaries.
A lot of people I know were not into Trump at all.
And if they weren't into crews, there were a lot of different Republican candidates, a lot of Rubio supporters, but I don't know a single one of them who is going to vote for Hillary.
And I know it's all anecdotal, and I don't know that many people compared to the national voting base.
Don't misunderstand.
I'm just saying the things they're asking us to believe.
I don't know.
I just don't see the evidence of it.
It could well be the case.
I've always been amazed when I find out how many Millions of Americans actually don't know what they're doing.
And there are a ton of them, so you deal with it as it comes.
And we'll be back.
Don't go away.
Okay, here's how it works.
A conventional wisdom in a drive-by media says that Trump is hemorrhaging support.
For whatever reasons.
And he's got one chance left.
This debate tonight.
Trump's got to turn it around tonight.
Is support for Trump that fickle?
Really?
Okay, if that's the case, what do you think Trump has to do tonight?
To go back and find the people who loved him in December and January, who apparently have abandoned him now.
What does he have to do to get them back?
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