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You're right.
You're right.
Folks, I'm not going to be here Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday.
In addition to Labor Day, we have our best of show on Labor Day.
Normally, my summer schedule is to take a week in June and a couple of weeks in August, and I have not done that.
I think I think four or five days in June.
And so broadcast partners came.
Take some time, will you?
I mean, we don't want you burning out.
We've got the election coming up.
It's going to be intense.
So I have been forced out of the air chair here Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday.
And I thought, this is embarrassing to have to say this.
So I thought about suspending myself.
And I said, okay, what have I done that I could suspend myself for?
And I couldn't come up with anything.
I thought it would have been hilarious to suspend myself.
I used to suspend Snerdley for 45 minutes or an hour if he was getting mad and cursing callers.
But he's been on his best behavior for the past bunch of years.
So there haven't been any real suspensions here.
Well, at least as far as I know, he's been on.
They're all laughing in there.
But I'll tell you one thing we're going to do.
This movie that I talked about an hour ago in the opening monologue of the program, the movie Greater, I really hope as many of you who have a chance to see it do so.
I don't want to overdo it.
I mean, I don't want to build up expectations to the point that you watch it and are disappointed.
So I'm just going to stop.
I'm just telling you that it is such, it's just beautiful, and it is so timely, and it is so inspirational.
And it just makes you, it makes you wish that the values and the behavior and the quest for excellence and greatness was dominant in our culture.
And you know, it may still be.
It just isn't covered.
But it's just heartwarming.
You'll have every emotion.
You'll go through every emotion in the gamut.
But what I think we're going to do tomorrow, we're going to get Neil McDonough, who is the star, the male lead.
He was in Justified.
He's in suits right now.
He's a great actor.
And he plays the older brother of Brandon Burlsworth in the movie.
And then the actual brother, and I think Buck Sexton, our guest host tomorrow, Buck from the CIA, is going to have them on to discuss the movie from their perspective.
Even better.
Snerdley is setting that up.
You know, we don't do this much.
We don't have bookers and guests.
Well, unless the guest hosts do that, which I, of course, am not ever told about.
But Snerdley is putting that together.
So when we get that ironed out, I'll make sure that you know when they've had it.
McDonough was executive producer of the movies.
He wasn't just an actor taking the role.
I think he's got a lot of he's into it.
I mean, the movie, I think, is something he wanted to be part of.
Now we go to the audio soundbites.
Once again, your host being used as material for other guests to react to and bounce off of.
Fox News this morning, the America's newsroom show, Martha McCallum, played a couple clips of me from yesterday on the Colin Capernick Caper.
And she had a couple of guests and their reaction, here's how it started.
Rush Limbaugh unloaded on all of that yesterday.
Here he is.
It's ironic that we have now a quarterback who was adopted and raised by a white family, who was scouted and signed by white scouts, was employed by white owners, the National Football League, decides now to steal the stage of the National Football League to make personal statements during the week he is about to be cut.
Wow.
Rush is clearly fired up in that statement.
He obviously follows the NFL extremely closely, and he is very unhappy with what Kaepernick's doing.
So they went to Julie Rogensky.
She is one of the Fox analysts from the left, and she was asked, Julie, what do you think of all this?
I stand up for the national anthem because I believe in this country and I believe in what the anthem stands for.
If you don't, then don't be a hypocrite.
I get it.
Don't stand up for the anthem if that's what you feel.
And, you know, I may not agree with him, but I'll defend to the death his right to do what he wants to do, which is a free speech issue.
If he doesn't want to stand up for the anthem, don't be a hypocrite.
Martha McCallum next said, it seems if you will protest, you should stand up for the anthem.
You should be saying, I live in a country that allows me to speak my mind, and I'm glad that I live in one of the countries in the world where I can pledge allegiance to my flag.
And then in an interview in the locker room, I can say what I think about what's going on in my country currently.
I do agree with Rush Limbaugh.
I also think there is significant political correctness within the NFL.
Think about when the players in Dallas wanted to honor the slain police officers with a decal on their helmets, and they were denied that right to do so.
There is a huge dynamic here, and I think the NFL really needs to impose a code of policy, code of conduct, for the players to stand for the national anthem.
You know, that is an interesting point.
I've heard a bunch of coaches.
The coaches have a really, really fine line they have to walk here.
They need their players.
The coaches are nothing without the players performing, and they know it.
The league needs the players.
I mean, nobody's going to pay to watch the owners have meetings about anything.
The players are it.
And that puts a responsibility on the player's shoulders.
I mean, they are the product.
And you've got to be very careful how you present that product.
But see, the league has its own culpability here.
The league opened the door to all of this stuff, you could say.
National Hispanic Week, National Hispanic Month, and go all pink in the month of October for breast cancer support to show that, well, you know, think about that.
That's marketing.
That's marketing disguised as a social conscience, but it's marketing.
They're trying to appeal to women.
It's kind of base in its approach.
And I don't know how effective it is in converting women to the NFL.
They would know.
I don't.
It obviously works.
They keep doing it, but it's – anyway, they've opened the door to this.
And when I hear coaches, I mean, the coaches tell these players what they can and can't do all the time.
The league does too.
The league has all kinds of rules.
In fact, folks, I have to tell you, the National Football League, you can't read about it anymore without reading about suspensions, violations of this policy, violations of that policy.
Sports reporting in the National Football League has changed dramatically.
The coverage is not exclusively about the athleticism of the game, what happens on the field, training camp, or what have you.
It's now a police blotter, in addition to all of that.
And what's screwy about it is the media seems to relish this aspect.
The media relishes when players get suspended.
The media relishes all this.
It's the oddest thing.
So many people who depend on the success of this league for their living, for their reason to exist, for their financial wherewithal, whatever.
And all the people engaged in trying to, well, I'm trying, an activity which could lead to real harm.
It's the most amazing thing to me to watch certain aspects of this.
But then the coach in a Kaepernick stands up or sits down and then says what he says, and they go to the coach.
Well, I can't tell a kid what to do.
I can't tell a kid what to say.
Freedom of speech.
Not for me to say.
Well, it is in every other aspect of the kid's life.
You tell him what time he's got to be in bed on road trips and during training camp.
The league has all kinds of rules of what these guys can't eat or drink.
And boy, you better pray you don't go out and get a weight loss product that's got a banned substance in it as a tiny little ingredient.
You can be suspended for four games, not even knowing what you did.
And they've all kinds of rules that players have to abide by, or they can face suspension and fines.
But when it comes to this protesting America, nothing I can do.
Oh, no, no, no, no, I can't say a word.
Nothing I can do about it.
That doesn't wash with me.
Coaches are authoritarians.
Not so much at the pro level, but you got into college and high school and younger, but coaches are dictators, permissibly so.
Maintaining order.
Team unity, the organizational concept of everything, that nobody's bigger than the team.
But just to ensure, I mean, showing up.
I mean, Tom Coughlin had a rule, former coach of the Giants.
If you had a 9 a.m. meeting at the offense, if the team meetings were at 9 a.m., they actually started at 8:55.
If you showed up at 9 a.m., you were five minutes late and got fined.
So a coach can do that, but no, no, I can't tell the kid what to do.
I can't tell a kid my right to tell a kid what his rights are.
And now we're off into this tangential discussion of rights.
People talking about rights, not even knowing what they are or where they come from.
I've got a right to do this, dude.
I'm going to write you.
I'm going to write up and fight my dudes, man.
I can write it.
You don't even know what you're talking about.
But everybody's, oh, I'm not going to infringe anybody's rights.
Somebody thinks he's got a right to go out and sit on his ass on the national hand.
Not for me to say.
He does.
There's no way I don't want to get anywhere near it.
So standing up for the country, nobody wants to go there.
That I shouldn't say nobody.
Look, there's some players that get a Jerry Rice.
Jerry Rice.
All lives matter.
And Kaepernick should stand for the anthem.
Jerry Rice, one of the greatest San Francisco foreigners ever.
All lives matter.
And Jerry Rice is not.
Let's just say it's big for Jerry Rice to say that.
He's not alone.
But the media is trying to encourage other players to follow in Kaepernick's footsteps because it'd be controversial.
It'd be cool.
It'd be standing up to authority.
It'd be all the things they supposedly like.
Julie Roginsky was back.
This cowboy situation, classic example.
A point I made yesterday, and they played this tape on Fox 2.
Here you have the St. Louis Rams can run out on the field.
Hands up, don't shoot, when it never happened.
It never happened.
Hands up, don't shoot is a total lie.
Then the t-shirts that players are wearing.
I can't breathe, which is a miss information piece on the death of Eric Garner.
This is the kid in New York City that was selling black market cigarettes because the tobacco tax in New York is so high that the black market for cigarettes is thriving.
A guy can make a living doing it.
So for some reason, the cops were called where he was and they had to subdue him with a chokehold.
They put him in an ambulance.
They had a heart attack on the way to the hospital.
The media reported cops killed him with a chokehold.
Didn't happen.
Story was that he was shouting, I can't breathe, I can't breathe.
Cops killed him chokehold.
Didn't happen.
Had a heart attack.
Yeah, well, maybe the chokehold led to the heart.
Nope, nope, didn't happen.
That's not what.
Anyway, so the players can do that.
They can hands up, don't shoot.
They can sit down during the anthem.
They can wear these can't breathe t-shirts.
But the Dallas Cowboys asked if they could put a decal on their helmets this season, honoring five Dallas police officers who were murdered.
And the league said, no.
Nope, you can't do it.
Why?
Why?
Is that too provocative?
Because the league says, no, no, if we honor cops, we're going to have problems.
Where are you going to have problems?
Where are you going to have problems if you honor the cops?
How in the world could that lead to problems?
I'm asking rhetorically, of course, we all know the answer.
But it's sad, folks.
It's sick, and it is sad.
They played, Martha McCallum played that clip of me thing that went back to Julie Roginsky.
I can't believe I'm saying Rush Limbaugh's right about that.
If the NFL is going to have a policy of allowing people to honor one component and not another, that's wrong.
The NFL should have a consistent policy.
The anthem to me is a little different, though.
The anthem to me is a very personal thing.
And if you believe in what the anthem stands for, as we do, we stand for the anthem.
If you don't, why be a hypocrite?
Don't stand.
Got to take a break, folks, before they start yelling at me about that.
So don't.
Okay.
El Rushbo meeting and surpassing all audience expectations every day to the phones.
We go Celissa in St. Louis.
Welcome.
Great to have you here.
Hi.
Hi.
Thanks so much.
Listen, I'm not a feminist, but I am a woman.
And I am a not never Hillary person.
In fact, I'm a subset of that, which is that I will crawl on my hands and knees over broken glass to vote against her.
But God forbid she wins.
She is going to set women back by ages and ages because all of this stuff is going to come out.
And all of the stereotypical stuff that people say about women, she's conniving, she's deceitful.
Here we had the first woman president, and it turns out she was, you know, some lady Macbeth, power-hungry, deceitful, conniving, lying, cheating.
What do you mean that's all going to come out?
We already know all that.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
And so, but I think the evidence which truly proves it to the majority of people, where the media is not going to be able to cover it up.
I mean, I think that the real dirt is there.
Give me an example of what you're talking about when you say the real dirt that the media won't be able to cover up.
What kind of things are you thinking about?
When they find out that there really was a pay-for-play, where there really was money exchanged.
Oh, okay.
Where she personally financially benefited from deals that were made through the State Department.
Right.
And then the bimbo eruptions, the actual feminist act of destroying the women her husband had abused.
Absolutely.
But why is that stuff not going to come out before the election?
How is it going to come out afterwards?
What's going to enable that to happen?
Because I think that the American media, now maybe the Clintons, I mean, the Clintons have been so immune.
It's like they got vaccinated decades ago.
But most of the time, the American media wants to take you down.
I mean, I've learned that from you.
The American media, they build you up, build you up, and then they take you down.
They love, yes, yes.
And there's going to be somebody.
In other words, all it takes is one or two media people, reporters, that say, this is too big.
This is too big for me to just not cover it.
Interesting.
Cover it up.
This is.
Do you think that there would be enough anti-Hillary sentiment in the drive-by media to, after they safely get her elected, then turn on her as they do on almost all successful people and what they build up, try to take down.
I think there are exceptions to that, though.
And I think the Clintons are such an exception.
I don't think the Clintons, to this day, I mean, all this stuff that you've talked about just now is widely known by the media.
They could have taken her out anytime they wanted.
And in 2008, you could say that they did in favor of Obama.
Right.
They did.
My hope would be that this stuff, some of it, enough of it would surface before the election that it would matter.
But there's something else that drives all this.
That is part and parcel of it.
And that is that Republican branding is so damaged that even if you gin up a bunch of anti-Hillary sentiment, that does not automatically mean people angry enough at Hillary not to vote for her will vote Republican.
That's still a big mountain to climb for a lot of people who've been misinformed for years.
Got to get back to the phones here in just a second.
But since we were discussing Hillary with the last callers, a point that I wanted to know, you remember at her, I think it was the Democrat Party convention, her acceptance speech, when she came out with this proposal to invest in infrastructure and our roads and bridges.
And she had this specific figure attached to it, like $250 or $300 billion.
And you remember the reaction that we all had.
Wait a minute, Biden done that.
We all started saying to each other, why don't people remember Obama promised not he did $800 billion infrastructure, roads, bridges, schools, none of it has happened.
Here comes Hillary proposing the same thing.
And we ask ourselves, why don't people catch this stuff?
Why don't they catch it on their own?
We don't know that they don't.
It just doesn't seem that this kind of hypocrisy ever attaches itself to Democrats.
Well, get this from the CyberCast News Service.
When Hillary says that she's going to spend money on infrastructure, that's just half the story.
Because the Obama White House may designate certain state voting systems as pieces of critical infrastructure, quote unquote, which would give federal technology experts more of a role in assisting the administrators of those networks as they deter intrusions.
Josh Ernest, the White House spokesman, said this yesterday.
So they're going to turn state voting systems, the machines, the networks, the whole shebang.
They're going to try to redesignate that stuff as critical infrastructure.
And so now when Hillary starts talking about appropriating hundreds of billions of dollars for infrastructure, she can now include the federal government messing around in state election systems, voting systems.
Josh Ernest said, yeah, that's something being discussed by senior members of the president's national security team.
According to a Reuters report, U.S. intelligence officials are worried that hackers sponsored by Russia or other countries may attempt to disrupt the presidential election.
The FBI is asking states to boost the security of their voting systems.
And as part of that upgrade, the federal government will now qualify, classify voting systems as infrastructure.
Well, once you let the feds get their money hands in on state voting, oh my gosh, they just don't stop.
They just are just trying to infiltrate and swallow and surround as much as they can.
Here's Cheryl in Wilmington, North Carolina.
She was in hole for most of the program yesterday.
We ran out of time.
So she graciously gave us her number.
We called her back.
How are you doing?
And I appreciate your patience here.
I'm doing great.
First time caller, very longtime listener.
And thank God every day that you're still out there being able to do what you do.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
More than you know.
Well, I'm going to try to be brief, but I know I've only got one shot at this probably.
So I do not believe anything in the media.
I observe it at a distance and judge it.
And I was taken back in the last election with Romney.
Really surprised that it didn't come out the way I thought it would.
But this time around, I'm really looking at, you know, the details.
I'm backing up engaging things in people around me in a different perspective and myself as well.
And there is a difference this time around with the people that I talk to, the things that they say.
It really surprises me that they're actually coming out and being so blunt with me as they are and that their concerns are exactly mine.
It's just, it's so crazy about how resonant it is when you talk to somebody who ends up being a Trump supporter.
Might not have been the first choice in the world, but it is what it is.
And these things that the media pick on with Trump and what he says and trying to say things about flip-flopping with this immigration issue and these other policies, they are just nitpicking at his words.
And to me, it displays nothing but a lack of common sense.
Some of the things that I hear these media people say, and you had a caller on yesterday who made that comment, you know, he's going to lose his base, flip-flopping.
It only takes common sense to read between the lines.
And the big deal is this.
Well, now, wait, let's go back to that caller because the caller was in part chiding me and in part chiding Fox News because his specific complaint was that during the fall campaign, Trump kept assuring people that illegal immigrants were going to be rounded up and deported.
He kept saying, they got to go.
They got to go.
They got to go back.
And all the other candidates were out saying, it ain't going to happen.
We're not going to round up 11 million.
I'm not going to do it.
I'm telling you the truth, and he's not.
And now that, and then so Trump goes on to get the nomination.
Now that the media is reporting Trump is flip-flopping on this and may not send him back, that guy called yesterday.
He was livid that some in the media, including me, didn't call Trump out on it at the time.
And you're calling that nitpick.
I'm not arguing with you.
I'm just recasting what this guy said so people know what you're referring to.
And you're saying that that's nitpicking, that's not the point, whether Trump's going to deport him or not.
That has nothing to do with why you support him, right?
And yeah, and you answered it, Rush.
You said they don't care.
And that is so true.
Those are minor details to the majority of people who are supporting Trump.
And it's the same thing with the tax return thing.
I do not care what is in Donald Trump's tax return.
Do you know why?
Because he's not a career politician.
He made his money in the private sector doing something else, and I don't care where his money came from or what his tax returns is.
If he were a career politician, I would say that it is required.
But I just don't feel like it is a big deal.
I have tried, and I'm sure you've heard this if you're a regular listener.
I've tried all last fall to explain to people why people like you and others support Trump and why you're not going to abandon him.
I got blew in the face trying to explain it.
I know you have.
And there is an energy here, Rush, that they had a, I didn't go to it.
I actually drove around.
He had a little rally here a couple weeks ago, and I thought, well, I'm going to go drive around in the building and look at it.
And the energy and the spirit that you can just feel the electricity.
You can see the people looking at each other.
This is the thousands that were outside of the building that never got in.
Yeah, I know.
That stayed there.
Now, you know, this may be isolated.
You made some remarks the other day.
I was listening, you know, saying that the same thing happened when Romney had his election.
And that may be very true, but I did not see or feel or hear the energy or the excitement that I did.
The Romney excitement was in the last week.
It was not throughout.
It was just the last week, and it was predominantly in Colorado, actually, if you want to get specific.
But let me go back.
One of the things that I've tried to explain to the media and the political professionals of many years, it's tough for them to get outside the bubble that they live in.
I mean, to them, politics is a science, and it is a behavioral system, and there are certain things, there are rules.
And if you flip-flop on an issue, you're dead.
you just you can't survive and if it's your number one and if it's your number one issue oh my god you're finished You're over with.
And they thought that's what Trump was doing when they thought he was flip-flopping on deporting 11 million people.
Right.
And even keep.
There's so many details.
Well, because.
Because there are so many details surrounding something like that.
There is no way on God's green earth, especially when you have experience from a business perspective, that you're going to approach something like that.
Say, this is how it's going to happen.
It's just not going to happen.
You've got to go as you're approaching it.
That's right.
And my effort has been to try to explain to them why that Trump is immune from this traditional way of analyzing the fates and fortunes of candidates.
You even had the guy, and he was a nice guy.
He was just frustrated.
The guy who called yesterday, he was upset that he's, and he's not a political professional.
He's a voter.
But he thinks Trump should pay a price for the flip-flopping because he misled you.
He misled all supporters.
And he was mad at me for helping Trump mislead you.
And my realization all along has been that you support Trump for primarily one reason.
And there are trees that come off of this one branch here.
But there's the primary reason that Trump is supported, and it's tough to nail one because there are actually many.
But the primary thing is he's not one of them.
He is a genuine outsider.
He's not a Washington politician claiming to be an outsider.
He really is.
And he's genuine enough to confirm that each and every appearance, each and every time he's on television.
So he's not going to be held to the standard that other politicians are held to in that sense by people like you because you trust that the big picture, that Donald Trump is going to make America great again.
He's going to reorder things in such a way.
And not even that rush.
Here's the bottom line that I feel with this thing with these never Trumpers and people who are freaking out.
I can't vote for him.
I can't vote for him.
Here is the bottom line.
We are in dire straits here.
We are sitting here on the cusp of something that's going to go one way or another.
And even if he gets in there and makes things temporarily worse than they already are, at least we've got somebody there that is talking about putting a screeching halt on some of these things that if it goes the other way may never ever be able to be corrected or reversed.
That is the issue here.
Okay, good.
That's exactly what's the bottom line.
I mean, he can't really reach the last moment to save America as we've known it in your mind.
And Trump represents that.
And therefore, you're not going to abandon him.
Did you hear what she just said, folks?
Trump could, so he gets elected.
He could actually do some things that make it worse for a while.
That's okay, too.
That's okay.
As long as it isn't Hillary, as long as it isn't the same bunch of people from the same crowd of people that got us in this mess, that screwed up the college education, that screwed up the student loan business, that screwed up the economy, that screwed up everything.
As long as it's not one of those, there's going to be tolerance and acceptance.
But meanwhile, the political professionals are all analyzing this like gamblers analyze the point spread of a football game.
Looking at the injury report, they get down deep in here and what this means.
And every poll is analyzed like it's the last poll, and what does it mean?
And none of that matters to a Trump supporter.
This I have instinctively known since day one.
Now all of these wizards of SMART.
Well, I think it's good.
Look, I've taken a break.
But Cheryl, I appreciate the call.
Very articulate.
If you never get back in again, you can always count on the fact you did a bang-up job here.
You made the most of your one chance.
Although I think you'll probably get back.
The odds are in favor of it.
Sticking with the phones.
We have a nine-year-old on the phone from Cherryfield, Maine.
This is Riley.
Riley, thank you for calling.
It's really great to have you on the program today.
It's great for me because I've been waiting all summer for you for someone to pick up.
And today I got lucky.
You've been waiting all summer to get through to the program?
All summer and almost all winter.
Wow.
And you're nine years old.
What did you want to get through to do?
What did you want to say?
I wanted to tell you how great you are, and you're the smartest person I know.
And if you taught me in school, I would even want to go to school on weekends.
You, you, meaning you really, you want to learn.
Yeah.
You just want to acquire knowledge.
You want to learn so much so that you'll be willing to go to school.
I'm going to agree with you because you're the smartest man I know.
That's nine years old.
Oh, that's amazing, Riley.
I'm speechless.
I don't know, I don't know what, how many people do you know?
A lot.
Oh, man.
This is incredible.
Well, what do you like learning the most?
I like math the most.
Math.
We talk about math a lot here in related ways.
We do.
We do.
But you know what?
You're nine years old.
Do you know yet what you want to do?
Has that occurred to you?
Are you just open-minded?
I want to be in the military, and I'm already a farmer.
You're already a farmer, and you want to be in the middle of the military.
Nine years old.
So, what grade does that put you in?
Second, third grade?
I'm going into fourth.
Going into fourth grade, yeah.
Well, let me see.
Riley, I assume I'm just going to ask you: have you read the Rush Revere?
I'm reading it.
I'm reading it.
Not right now.
Which one?
I'm reading it.
Which one are you reading?
The first one.
Rush Revere and the Brave Pilgrims.
Yep.
And the Brave Pilgrims.
Well, I'll tell you what.
If you'll hang on here, Mr. Snerdley will get your address up there in Cherryfield, Maine.
And I want to send you a gift package of stuff from us here at the EIB Network as a measure of thanks to you and your parents for giving this program and what we do here so much of your time and attention.
And I can't tell you, Riley, how gratifying it is that you find it worthwhile.
And I'm extremely appreciative of your compliments and your kind words to me.
And I hope that you continue this desire to learn.
I didn't get it until I quit school, strangely enough.
And I really was not overcome with the realization that I was going to have to acquire knowledge till I quit.
I didn't like school at all.
And so if you've got this fever for learning at nine, there's no stopping you.
I hope that keeps up for you.
For me, too.
No, it will.
It will.
You just keep a keep a Kim, the phone on hold here.
Don't hang up so we can get your address to send you the goodie package.
That's nine-year-old Riley in Cherryfield, Maine.
And we will be right back.
Don't go away.
Yep, that lesbian farmer story is still alive out there.
Lesbian Farmer Stan.
You know, it's classic.
It's a Washington Free Beacon story.
So I see it and I report it, repeat it, actually, repeat it.
And I add some unique commentary to it.
And it gets a life of its own in New York Daily News, at New York Magazine, the advocate, Conan O'Brien.
And it's still percolating out there, the lesbian farmer story.
This is where the USDA was offering financial grants to lesbians to become farm babes.