Aug. 18, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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| Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 247 Podcast. | |
| Buck Sexton here in for Rush Limbaugh today on the EIB. | |
| Thank you so much for joining. | |
| Phone lines are open eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two. | |
| Let's talk a bit about Hillary for a few minutes, shall we? | |
| You I'm sure at this point have heard quite a bit about the emails, the email server. | |
| They promise that there'll be all kinds of transparency and we'll learn a whole lot more about what's going on. | |
| Just give them some time. | |
| They need to sift through this stuff, don't you see? | |
| And there are multiple threads, you could almost say multiple chains, multiple email chains that are of interest to the American people in this election season. | |
| Are they of interest to the media? | |
| Meh not so much. | |
| A little bit. | |
| Yeah, they cover it, but they cover it in a very Oh disaffected, d disattached uh or detached and disinterested kind of way. | |
| They're not particularly excited about this story. | |
| It's even old news. | |
| You heard Bill Clinton earlier in the week saying that the FBI director was just offering up a bunch of hooplaw nonsense. | |
| You know, it's just not a not a big deal. | |
| Not a not yeah, yeah. | |
| This telling us all that there's nothing really to be concerned about here, that this was just you know, at first they were sort of wiping the sweat from their collective brow in the Clinton camp because there weren't going to be criminal charges. | |
| It's like which I never thought there would be, but there was certainly the possibility there could have been. | |
| And for a lesser person, and for those of you out there who work either on the military or the intel side, just remember, no precedent has been set here with Hillary that will protect any of you. | |
| Meaning if you even mess up just a little bit, far less egregiously than Hillary Clinton. | |
| You're gonna get nailed. | |
| Because the Clintons are above the law. | |
| The law doesn't really apply to them. | |
| That was the ultimate lesson of what we saw with her email server. | |
| So we know all about that. | |
| Okay, but what's different now? | |
| You've got a few things. | |
| First of all, they have released the FBI interview. | |
| They have released the FBI interview that deals with Hillary and the server and everything else. | |
| But to see it, to see it, you have to have a clearance. | |
| This is from Fox News. | |
| A congressional source confirmed that the House Government Oversight Committee had received a heavily redacted FBI summary of Hillary Clinton's session last month with FBI agents who interviewed her about use of a private server for government business. | |
| The agents' notes were provided as well. | |
| Um so isn't it interesting that to even read the interview notes, you have to have a security clearance. | |
| Clinton specifically was interviewed by the FBI about her handling of twenty-two top secret emails, which included some of the government's most closely held government programs known as special access programs, which often include human spying. | |
| This all from Fox News. | |
| So I I'm confused. | |
| Someone's going to have to explain this to me. | |
| I held a high level clearance at one point. | |
| I I guess the rules have changed. | |
| So there was nothing in the emails, and then there was classified in the emails, and then we were told, well, it wasn't that classified. | |
| And now that the FBI and the Justice Department, of course, has told us that there will be no charges of any kind, and Hillary's not going to get in any trouble for this now. | |
| The storyline is that there was not well once again, we've gone full circle. | |
| There's really nothing to see here. | |
| Um except you can't see them. | |
| These are incongruent thoughts. | |
| These are positions that you can't hold simultaneously. | |
| Either there was nothing that bad that she was sending around an emails that were open to foreign hacking and that violate any number of federal statutes about classified on unclassified systems. | |
| Either that was a thing or it wasn't. | |
| You really can't have it both ways. | |
| And I see the surrogates now going on too. | |
| We need to move beyond this. | |
| A lot of people are saying this. | |
| We need to move beyond this. | |
| Perhaps they're so committed to defeating Donald Trump that they don't care about the truth in this instance. | |
| They certainly don't care about the law or the precedent that it sets for everybody else out there. | |
| If I thought that at least this could be used to invoke the Hillary defense for decent, well intentioned patriots who run afoul of what is an often overclassified system and can be murky and can be confusing at times. | |
| Of a freak out about this, but I promise you this was a s this was a special Clinton exception. | |
| This was for the classified world, what is the meaning of is. | |
| Anyone else, you'd get into perjury for what for what Bill did. | |
| I mean, he's he's so sketchy. | |
| But for you, no. | |
| For you ruinate ruin uh ending of your career and perhaps even spending some time inside a cell. | |
| That would be that would be what the government offers you. | |
| I just don't understand how they can defend this now that Hillary's emails are so sensitive that they can only be held in certain places seen by certain people and have to have all these redactions. | |
| What do we think is contained in these emails? | |
| How bad could it be? | |
| Apparently very serious. | |
| Apparently the sort of national security information that we wouldn't want to get out there because it would hurt us. | |
| Well, if that's the case, why was it on her unclassified system? | |
| Why is she sending this stuff around in a way that's vulnerable to hackers? | |
| Well we know that people were trying to. | |
| We know that there was a risk. | |
| We know that all the different intel directors have said that she, including the FBI director, that if she used this on foreign soil, it certainly then is a wide open door if they were looking. | |
| But we're supposed to believe that she has a fantastic record on foreign policy. | |
| We're supposed to believe somehow, that none of this has any meaning. | |
| It doesn't mean anything about her judgment, it doesn't mean anything about whether we should trust her to be the next commander in chief. | |
| This is all part of the game. | |
| You see, Trump says something that is a little controversial, maybe. | |
| Sometimes, yes, sometimes they make it controversial. | |
| But that can dominate the news cycle for an entire week. | |
| Now what you see is the the media with the precision of a Prussian military unit has all just turned about face and they are on the march for Hillary. | |
| They are not just ready for Hillary, they are ready to rock for Hillary. | |
| They are out there, they will do whatever they have to do. | |
| Even if it means saying things on TV or writing things that are preposterous on their face. | |
| I mean, and they'll do this for the Obama administration too. | |
| They have been. | |
| We'll talk about the four hundred million dollar payment to Iran. | |
| It's not a ransom payment, it was just a you know, just a friendship cash drop. | |
| I guess we could we'll come up with some other description for it. | |
| It was, you know, it it was a it was a tip for good service on that whole nuclear deal. | |
| I I I don't know. | |
| It was something other than a ransom payment, they say. | |
| We'll get into the latest on that in just a little bit. | |
| But the Hillary emails that are out there, okay, fine. | |
| The classified thing, is it gonna go anywhere? | |
| No, because the FBI and the DOJ has already decided that she's too important, she's above the law, and they didn't go forward with anything. | |
| You know, somebody else maybe and this has been pointed out to me, and I think it's true. | |
| A normal person, well, would be in a lot of trouble, would probably end up pleading down to a lesser charge, stripped of security clearance. | |
| She didn't have to do any nothing. | |
| There's no sanction. | |
| I was on CNN just a couple nights ago and I was told she was reprimanded. | |
| Woo, no, not a reprimand. | |
| Did they tell her to take a timeout in the corner? | |
| She'd probably uh be okay with that whole idea considering how terrified of standing in front of the press and answering questions she is. | |
| But that's not the only place where we see interesting stories about emails with Hillary, isn't it fast? | |
| Communications, records. | |
| These are the sorts of things that keep the Clintons up at night. | |
| These are the sorts of things that give the Clintons nightmares. | |
| I mean, it's just so scary. | |
| They can like know what was said and produce it in the court of law. | |
| Bill worries about these things. | |
| Emails for the Clinton Foundation as well, may have, this reported on by Reuters and another number of other sources, may have been hacked. | |
| Now, you might say to yourself, okay, there's been this DNC hacking that's occurred. | |
| Another subject that we'll hit later on in this hour, Which, of course, hacking is a crime. | |
| Hacking is wrong, but hacking sometimes there's interesting information that gets out there, as there was about the DNC. | |
| We found out that yes, in fact, Bernie Sanders not really get not really getting the love from the DNC establishment. | |
| Not big fans of the Sanders. | |
| I mean, I think the guy's wrong on everything, but I kind of like him. | |
| I think he destroy the economy, but he's sort of cuddly. | |
| DNC doesn't like him. | |
| Not Bernie Sanders fans. | |
| Not about to roll out the roll out the red carpet for Bernie. | |
| Despite the new, I hear a lovely, a lovely new Lake House. | |
| 600 grand. | |
| It's good to be a it's good to be a Democratic Socialist. | |
| It's good business. | |
| So you have the DNC hack, and those emails are out there, and we've learned more about it, and and we see a lot of different factors coming into play at once, right? | |
| You got foreign entities now, you got the Russians kicking at old school, like the old KGB days here where they're doing disinformation and provocation. | |
| I think it's like uh provocatsya diff disinformatia. | |
| I mean, just it sounds Russian, something like that. | |
| Um close enough. | |
| You know, the Mazkarovka, the these are the different Russian tactics they use, intel and military tactics they use to can confuse people from the old KGB days. | |
| And now we're see oh, and maybe the Russians are behind it. | |
| They say they're not. | |
| It's reported they are, who knows, but somebody, somebody got their hands on all those DNC emails. | |
| And they're released. | |
| Oh, I shouldn't say all because well, we don't know how many, do we? | |
| We don't know what else is out there. | |
| So you have the possibility that there's more coming. | |
| This could mean from the DNC side or from the Clinton Foundation side, which also may have been hacked. | |
| That's what Reuters is reporting, that there's a cyber surprise that could be coming the way of folks in October. | |
| James is asking me a question. | |
| Yes, James. | |
| Yes, James. | |
| She's lying. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| She gave all the emails. | |
| Of course she doesn't, of course she hasn't given all the emails. | |
| Yeah, I know. | |
| She's she's been telling us this all along that it's just about yoga pants. | |
| But James was the one who brought up yoga pants. | |
| Don't get mad at me for that one. | |
| Uh, but yes, it's true. | |
| Mr. Snerdley points out she promises that are all turned over. | |
| No, no, but I mean the DNC emails, those have been hacked. | |
| We don't know if all those have been released, and on top of that, you have the possibility of a hack of the Clinton Foundation server itself. | |
| Which I know it's a charity. | |
| What could we possibly learn from? | |
| I mean, I if if they did hack the Clinton Foundation, it would have to be that they were sending juice boxes to orphanages all over the world, that they were they were just, you know, clean water projects ever. | |
| Oh, oh no, they would never want anybody to know. | |
| They're what they're donor lists would be made public? | |
| Why is that such a problem? | |
| Don't people oh no, people would find out who gave the charity. | |
| Wait a second. | |
| Is the Clinton Foundation a giant slush fund that's really a corporation posing as a charitable entity? | |
| Is the Clinton Foundation actually the means by which the Clintons have greatly enriched themselves and their cronies while building a massive, almost unstoppable political machine, all under the guise of helping the less fortunate in solving world problems? | |
| My mind is blown, Mr. Snurdly. | |
| Blown. | |
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| Buck Sexton in for Rush Limbaugh. | |
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| Buck Sexton here in for Rush Limbaugh today. | |
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| So just to recap, because I know there's a whole bunch of different email things going on, but they matter, right? | |
| They matter because they give us a window into what's really going on with Hillary Clinton. | |
| So the there's the did she send classified, and yes, by the way, I believe it was 110 classified at the time emails were either sent or received on her private server, as stated by the FBI director. | |
| So yeah, she sent classified. | |
| Have we seen all of her work-related emails from her State Department account? | |
| No, we have not. | |
| And the State Department says, don't worry. | |
| We're going to release them. | |
| This just came out in the last couple of days. | |
| We're gonna we're gonna release those emails to you, American people, which we own them, right? | |
| They're they're emails that are that are the property of the American people. | |
| She was a Secretary of State. | |
| These are emails that she did in her official capacity. | |
| There should be no problem with seeing Oh no, but we have to make sure there were no that we redact things. | |
| Well, redact things, if something needs to be redacted, it shouldn't have been on the unclassified system and oh, okay, that's right. | |
| We've already gone, she doesn't have to obey the rules everybody else does. | |
| Right, we get that. | |
| You got the DNC hack, which people think the Russians might be behind. | |
| I'm just saying it's possible there's this guy named Vladimir Putin out there, and he's a little bit of a cagey fellow. | |
| Uh so there's the possibility the Russians are involved in that. | |
| Or I think it's more than a possibility. | |
| Uh and then you also have the fear that there so that and that's the DNC hack, of course. | |
| And do we know all of that information? | |
| As I said, Cyber October surprise looms here, and we don't know what it would be. | |
| Could it cause we don't know who has these different unclassified emails or or these different email systems rather who act into them? | |
| We don't know where they are, what's been released, what's really out there. | |
| So it's still all sort of drip, drip, drip. | |
| Media loses interest in this, and they hope when they do cover it, they write about it like they've pulled out an old school encyclopedia Britannica and are going to the page on mold spores and fungus or something. | |
| I mean, they want to make it as boring for you as humanly possible. | |
| You know, it's like ew, I don't want to read about this. | |
| Yeah, yeah, there was a donor somewhere, somebody talked to something. | |
| Okay. | |
| So that's out there as well. | |
| And I know there's many layers here, and this the media is counting on everyone to just be like, oh, it's confusing and there's too much and it's forever, and it's oh, they love the old news thing. | |
| They've tried the it's not news thing recently, the emails, emails, who cares? | |
| But that doesn't really work. | |
| Now they're trying the it's old news thing again, and they'll go back, I'm sure, in a week or two to emails, who cares? | |
| But the other one that I find so fascinating is the Clinton Foundation. | |
| If it was hacked, and again, hacking is a crime, hacking is wrong, but if it was hacked, let's just say, just walk down this path with me for a minute here. | |
| What could possibly be in there that's such a big problem? | |
| Why would ever why would there be all this consternation from within the Hillary Clinton campaign about the possibility that the Clinton Foundation might have some email, might have some internal communications out there. | |
| Could it be let's just theorize here for a second? | |
| Could it be that there would be evidence of favorable treatment for major foundation donors that was direct? | |
| Could somebody in a position of authority within the Clinton Foundation have written a so-called smoking gun email saying, Yeah, that's right, uh that oligarch that wrote us that huge check or that paid bill five hundred grand to show up for half an hour and spew some nonsense. | |
| He he wants some movement on that issue. | |
| Can we get him a meeting? | |
| That's corruption. | |
| It's also illegal, but I don't know. | |
| You know the old the old uh saying, you know, it's not it's not illegal if the president does it, which is obviously not true, but we've now have to amend that. | |
| It's not illegal if a Clinton does it. | |
| It's not illegal if a Clinton lies. | |
| Uh I know the House is pushing for perjury charges uh now, or they're they're I'm s I should say I'm sorry, they're looking into perjury charges. | |
| Trust me, if you couldn't get her if you couldn't get her on the classified email stuff, you're not gonna get her on the perjury charge. | |
| She'll just find some way. | |
| And ultimately the whole system breaks down. | |
| If the prosecutors, if the people making the decisions don't want to bring charges, then there's no then there are no charges. | |
| So a crime may have occurred, but a crime will not be prosecuted unless a prosecutor is like, yeah, let's go for that. | |
| And oh, that's right, that would mean Loretta Lynch decides just a few months before uh before the election that the Democrat nominee is going to be facing any sort of a a criminal issue. | |
| Never going to happen. | |
| I would also offer to you, as I as I think I've done before on this program, uh I've certainly said it elsewhere, that it doesn't matter what's found in those emails with regard to corruption in the Clinton Foundation, it it doesn't matter. | |
| There'll be some explanation, they'll come up with something. | |
| It's they're all so invested at this point. | |
| And there's nothing we can find that will stop uh that will stop Hillary Clinton from being the Democrat nominee, or they're hoping from becoming an ex president of the United States. | |
| Nothing, it's not even possible, it's not conceivable that in those emails there will be something that is so problematic for the campaign. | |
| Because no matter what it is, they'll say it's nothing. | |
| Just like now they tell us uh Bill Clinton comes out and says what the FBI director said is all a whole bunch of oh, and by the way, he's probably going to be staying on, right? | |
| So he knows. | |
| A lot of these people that we're relying on to be the guardians of truth and democracy and the law. | |
| They see Hillary and they know she's very dishonest. | |
| But they also worry that she's gonna be their boss. | |
| And they want to keep their jobs. | |
| And they want to keep their power and their privileges. | |
| And so very unlikely that you're gonna see any movement on any of that. | |
| Unless the Russians have a big say in this with the emails, we'll talk about it. | |
| Indeed, Buck Sexton here, 800-282-2882 on the phone lines, InfoRush on the EIB. | |
| Always a great time. | |
| We're joined now by my friend John Schindler. | |
| He is formerly of the NSA. | |
| He's currently uh national security writer at the Observer.com. | |
| John, always good to have you. | |
| Always a pleasure, my friend. | |
| Great to be here. | |
| John, what is up with Russia meddling in the election? | |
| How how are they trying to uh to change things and and what do you think they're up to? | |
| Uh they're they're really busy uh in a way that we haven't seen uh since the very beginning of the Cold War, uh seven decades ago. | |
| Uh they are uh through espionage and what we would call covert action, they're trying to influence our election on a lot of fronts. | |
| Uh there's not a lot of attention that the Russians almost certainly the Russians have hacked Hillary and the Democratic National Convention, but this goes way beyond that. | |
| And they're trying to shape the discussion that we Americans are having about our own political future. | |
| And that's a really serious matter that needs to be talked about. | |
| Now we know that the left tends to be generally where we hear a lot about radical transparency, right? | |
| And and the the support for groups in the past like like WikiLeaks and the support for Snowden in this country has come from within the left who say that no, we need a a radical transparency of uh of the uh uh what's going on in the U in the US government and and everything else. | |
| Uh and but now all of a sudden when the DNC is getting hacked, people are like, hold on a second, this is too much. | |
| Right. | |
| I mean, this is this has been a really sort of C change in the politics of this. | |
| The Democrats haven't cared a lot about Russian or anyone else's espionage for a long time. | |
| It's all of a sudden got gotten really personal for them. | |
| And I understand why the Kremlin's not being subtle here. | |
| They're sort of taunting Hillary with her purloined emails and this sort of thing. | |
| This is not nice. | |
| You don't do this. | |
| And it was also a change from sort of the Cold War model is there used to be a time when people spouting Kremlin propaganda were going to be reliably on the left, and what they were gonna say was pretty predictable. | |
| Um that's not true anymore. | |
| They're on the far left, they're on the far right. | |
| You got Gary Johnson, the uh libertarian candidate for president who's spouting things that are being exactly mirrored on the far left that are pro-Kremlin. | |
| So the Russians are it's a new playing field for them, and they're really taking advantage of it. | |
| And we we're playing catch up right here. | |
| Now it's it's turned into an interesting food fight in the media right now over who's more in the pocket of Putin or who who's more of a Kremlin stooge, the Trump campaign or the Hillary campaign. | |
| John, we follow all this stuff very closely. | |
| What's real and what's not when it comes to Russian influence in these two campaigns, the connections. | |
| Break it down for us. | |
| First of all, some of it's interrelated. | |
| Uh the Kremlin has its paws in the Hillary camp and has for a while through uh the Clinton Global Foundation. | |
| No surprise there since that's uh sort of pay-for-play dirty money shop, uh big buyouts by state-linked uh y uranium firms in Russia to the Clinton Foundation. | |
| You also have the Podesta group, which is a big Democratic lobbying firm run by the brother of John Podesta, who is uh Hillary's campaign manager, which is taking money from this bank in Russia, which happens to be a government run bank. | |
| They've got a lot of dirtiness over there, and of course, it's almost certain the Russians have lots of lots, if not all of Hillary's emails, including the one she claims to have deleted. | |
| So there's all kinds of blackmail there. | |
| Then you have the Trump camp, which is if anything, honestly, even worse, because Trump, you know, Mike Morel, the former director of action director of CIA came out and said that uh Trump's an unwitting Kremlin agent recently. | |
| And unfortunately I'm which is way harsh. | |
| I don't think uh you know Donald Trump is in the in the hands of the Kremlin directly, but he's surrounded by people who have very, very weird and unpleasant Kremlin ties. | |
| It's come out this week that Paul Massford, who's just been promoted to his pseudo campaign chair, uh, you know, was on on the hook for taking almost $13 million in petty cash from basically from the Kremlin in Ukraine where he worked for many years. | |
| Mike Flynn, who's the former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, fired by President Obama, uh, and is essentially the national security guy for the Trump campaign, admits he's taking Kremlin money to appear on RT, the Kremlin's propaganda network to have a photo off of President Putin. | |
| Look, none of this looks very good, especially to anyone like you or me who's seasoned in the world of espionage and how these things work. | |
| Um I think it's clear that when you add what we know about the Trump campaign's weird Russian ties to what we don't know, unanswered questions, like where are Donald's tax returns? | |
| This simply feeds into this since he will not release his tax returns, unlike every presidential candidate for 40 years of either party. | |
| This leads to questions about what's he hiding. | |
| Maybe it's just that he doesn't have that as much money as he said he does, or maybe he's taking foreign money. | |
| We kind of do need to know this. | |
| Right now we're in the awful situation that the Kremlin has the hooks in both campaigns in different ways, and this needs to be unraveled no matter who wins, and unraveled quickly. | |
| Tell me a bit about your latest piece, which is up on observer.com at the at the New York Observer right now. | |
| NSA Shadow Broker's hack shows spy war with Kremlin is turning hot. | |
| What's going on here, John? | |
| Yeah, this this is a movie fodder here. | |
| Uh, you know, three years after Edward Snowden, the NSA contract defected to Moscow, it's all back in the news. | |
| NSA sure didn't need another security compromise, but they just got a whopper this week. | |
| A shadowy uh online uh gang hacking gang has claims to have gotten its hands on the top secret NSA hacking tools from uh the very elite hacking office at NSA. | |
| These appear, at least some of them appear to be genuine. | |
| So the question comes how they got them. | |
| This is highly embarrassing. | |
| Um they want us to believe, and it's pretty clear the hackers are linked with the Kremlin here. | |
| This is part of the Kremlin's information campaign against the U.S. government and I say. | |
| They want us to believe that these were hacked online. | |
| That certainly does not appear to be the case. | |
| That'd be really hard to do. | |
| The more alarming conclusion, and I used to work for NSA counterintelligence, I used to do this for a living, um, is that there's another mole inside NSA, that Snowden wasn't the real mole. | |
| In fact, we've kind of known that for a while. | |
| He's really kind of a pat. | |
| He was giving the Russians cover for their or moles that are really inside NSA. | |
| We've known about them since at least 2010. | |
| They've never been caught. | |
| And one of those individuals probably downloaded this information and passed to the Russians three years ago for safekeeping to embarrass NSA when the time was right. | |
| And clearly the Kremlin thinks the time is right right now. | |
| This is this is this is pretty exciting stuff in the spy war. | |
| So you think that there's m that there's more than just Snowden. | |
| I mean, this is something that most I am confident there's more than just Snowden, and there may be more than one Russian mole. | |
| Um there has never been a time in NSA's history when there wasn't a Russian mole in its ranks or the ranks of its close partner agencies uh in in the UK, Canada, Australia. | |
| Um there's no reason to think there isn't one. | |
| The Russian illegals network rolled up in 2010. | |
| The SDR where everyone remembers Anna Chapman, the hot redhead, was one of ten deep cover Russian spies in the U.S. was arrested. | |
| This was treated kind of like a comic opera thing in the media. | |
| It was actually quite serious. | |
| And this developed many leads about penetrations elsewhere, including moles, note plural, inside the Department of Defense, including NSA. | |
| So there's been a malt hunted NSA going on that predates Edward Snowden before Snowden was even active. | |
| Uh again, I want to make clear, Snowden's not the real thing. | |
| Snowden's not an agent in a conventional sense, he's an IT geek, frankly. | |
| He's a fifth admin, not a spy. | |
| He didn't know all that much. | |
| He's gonna is stealing stuff, but he's not a real spy. | |
| The real spy is a mole or moles still inside NSA. | |
| I can state with confidence they're out there uncaught. | |
| Speaking of uh of hacking into things, by the way, there's this fear that the Clinton Foundation may have been hacked. | |
| I think it's interesting. | |
| As as I like to point out, hacking is illegal and people shouldn't hack. | |
| However, uh once information is out there, it is out there, and it's not a you know, where people are going to read what what they can, especially about a presidential candidate's massive international conglomerate posing as a charitable foundation. | |
| Anyway, uh the uh the possibility of a massive cyber October surprise in your mind, given what we know about the various either um uh either confirmed or alleged breaches that have to do with Hillary Clinton's various email servers and accounts and such. | |
| Do you think it's high and do you think the Russians would be behind it? | |
| Uh yes and yes. | |
| If I were the Democrats of the Hillary campaign, I'd be very concerned for two reasons. | |
| One of which is what we already know about the sort of pay for play aspect of the Clinton Global Initiative Clinton Foundation is bad enough. | |
| One wonders what's lurking behind the scenes. | |
| That could be highly embarrassing. | |
| Then there's the fact the Russians excel at disinformation and have for many decades. | |
| That is, they could take real information about the Clinton Global Foundation that looks bad, and add a small percentage of stuff that's even juicier because it's made up or embellished. | |
| And it would take the media and our government months, if not years to figure out what was real from what isn't, and then it could do enormous political damage. | |
| So the Democrats have very real reason to be concerned right now. | |
| And let me say social Americans. | |
| I mean, as much as I'm opposed to Hillary Clinton in any way, shape, or form, I don't want the Russians using disinformation to change how Americans might vote. | |
| Yeah, this is old school KGB style disinformation and and in an intrusion into sort of the US U.S. political discourse w uh an and that's never a good thing, although it might be very interesting with the Hillary situation. | |
| Uh I also want to ask what what do you think it'll mean for the FBI and various other agencies that have been involved in this whole Clinton investigation up to this point? | |
| We we still don't really know what's going on with the Foundation investigation, by the way. | |
| There's all this sort of conflicting it's going on, no, it's not. | |
| The FBI turned it down. | |
| Um but if the r if there is a release, and let's say it's from the Russians, and let's say it comes in October, um, that shows that Hillary was doing egregious whether on the corruption front or just things that were even more wildly classified than the FBI was able to figure out. | |
| I feel like it doesn't just hurt Clintons and the Clinton brand of the Democratic Party. | |
| I see I think some of these agencies are gonna look pretty bad, even if they were doing their best to try to find out what was going on. | |
| That's exactly right. | |
| FBI will look bad, NSA will look bad, partly because we know that NSA and the FBI knew over a year ago about a lot of this hacking was already going on by you know hackers affiliated with the Kremlin. | |
| Uh and they did their best to stop it, but you can't stop it. | |
| But they're not gonna look very good either if we have a big data dump on the eve of the election that makes Hillary look bad, the Democratic Party was bad, and frankly, our whole Democratic system looked bad. | |
| That we've allowed the Clintons to get away with these shenanigans for as many years as we had, and by the way, the spies didn't really effectively stop it. | |
| And that's what the Russians really want. | |
| It's not just about putting Donald Trump in the White House, which I gotta tell you looks like a really long shot right now. | |
| It's about undermining the basic credibility of American institutions. | |
| And when we give them ammunition, like we often do, it makes it easy for them. | |
| And right now Putin's having a very good winning streak on this, and I'm afraid he's gonna keep winning for the time being. | |
| John Schindler is formerly of the NSA. | |
| He is a columnist at The Observer. | |
| You can read his latest at Observer.com. | |
| John, always a pleasure, my friend. | |
| Thank you for calling in. | |
| Have a great one. | |
| Thanks. | |
| Buck in for Rush here, 800 282-2882. | |
| I'll be right back. | |
| Buck Sexton here in for Rush Limbaugh on the EIB. | |
| We're taking some calls, but we got some spots open. | |
| 800 282-2882, Michael in Sacramento. | |
| What's up, sir? | |
| Hey, Buck, how you doing? | |
| Good. | |
| How are you? | |
| Pretty good. | |
| Uh, you know, I was listening to what you were saying earlier, and it kind of brought something in the forefront of my thoughts is that uh a lot of times when I talk to my Democratic friends, uh, it always comes up, you know, about uh well, the rich need to do this and the rich need to do that, you know, and and I'm like, I I have always asked, no, I'll I'll process this with I'm not rich. | |
| But I understand the reason why we have to protect those, you know, that that have money, because you know what, that sets of precedent. | |
| Uh so I've I've asked, I'm like, well, okay, explain to me why is it that you feel that that we have to go after the rich? | |
| Now, this has always been a democratic platform thing. | |
| He says, Well, I don't think it's fair. | |
| I'm like, well, what do you what's not fair? | |
| Well, I don't think it's fair that they've got all these different opportunities and they can bend the rules and and it and I can't play like that. | |
| So I I d I don't like it, you know. | |
| So if we need to redistribute the wealth, that's what I want to do. | |
| And so I've asked them, I says, Well, okay, explain to me this. | |
| You know, you feel that way about wealth, how do you feel about law? | |
| Because, you know, last I checked, you know, I mean, the whole idea of this country was that everybody was supposed to be equal. | |
| And if you've got the Democratic nominee deleting thirty-three thousand emails, which regardless of whether or not it was yoga or or Chelsea's uh wedding. | |
| They still subpoena that information and by law you have to provide that regardless of whether or not you think it's important or not. | |
| And you know, even if they were all about yoga, you still destroyed or changed information that an inquest was requiring, which just by law, you either put you in prison or you can never hold it. | |
| Well people should look up what the full penalties are under Dodd Frank, I think, for destroying any tangible thing record, uh the penalties are are actually very severe, but that's uh just uh as as an aside. | |
| So if you're in finance and and you throw out some documents, you know if you're a banker, because you're wall street, we need to punish them, uh you could be in a lot of trouble. | |
| But if you're a Clinton, you know, it's it was all just for convenience. | |
| Oh yeah. | |
| I was it's funny you say that because I was a banker for a few years and uh we had to learn all of those acts, you know, the Dodd Frank Act and uh and I knew other bankers that made a mistake and opened up a uh an account for somebody. | |
| They didn't quite have all the information that they needed and it turned out that it was uh you know basically a way to launder money to Iran. | |
| And and that guy he wasn't working at the bank and he was taken into custody. | |
| So it it's it's I looked at the Yeah this this is what makes me so mad about the Hillary situation and I I'm all for I'm all for uh m you know m mercy when called for with with the law with prosecution. | |
| I believe in mens rea protection, therefore uh meaning that i if you're somebody who was acting in good faith, didn't have a criminal state of mind and weren't reckless, that should be an affirmative defense for really all criminal charges. | |
| Um but that's not you know Hillary gets a it's it's a special Hillary exception. | |
| It's not like the rest of us could expect to be treated this way. | |
| It's an exception for Hillary Clinton and for people like Hillary Clinton and and on on your point about the rich, I just have to laugh. | |
| I mean the the Clintons have made how many hundreds of millions off of giving speeches. | |
| First of all Hillary's a terrible speech giver. | |
| So let's just start there. | |
| Her speeches are brutal. | |
| So it's not like this is some fantastic show. | |
| I mean it's not like all the all the baby boomers want to see Paul McCartney one more time and we'll pay anything for his last show or something. | |
| I mean this is obviously a scheme set up to get access uh to the Clintons because Hillary's gonna run for president again. | |
| I mean this is very straightforward stuff. | |
| The media always acts all surprised about it though. | |
| Like what do you mean? | |
| Why would you make such an insinuation? | |
| You know they do this sort of uh th this naive routine that's always pretty entertaining but also frustrating at the same time. | |
| Uh but Michael I appreciate you calling in from uh from Sacramento. | |
| Good to talk to you. | |
| I think we can take we take one more who who's uh Mr Snerdley who is the next that we should take let's go to John and Crofton. | |
| Sir, welcome to EIB you're speaking of Buck. | |
| Yeah I'm uh political junkie. | |
| I live equidistant between Baltimore and Apollo and Washington DC. | |
| Uh this is uh a crazy election the worst I've ever seen I'm seventy six years old. | |
| But uh a year ago this month I went down to uh Washington. | |
| I usually usually go down there for rallies for the Tea Party and when uh Trump was w when he came in to be on the stage with uh Ted Cruz and uh Mark Levin uh that hot uh August day last year I went down here and as he came by the crowd after you know he was approaching the stage I uh I told him I said I you know I believe in making America great again. | |
| I said I've lived in this country long enough to know that you know we're losing it and uh he gave me a fist bump and uh I've been uh his supporter ever since and the reason he was there was he's who was speaking against the forthcoming uh approval of the Iranian nuclear deal and I told both snurredly that uh you know this bothers me more than anything else that the Russians this week we hear they're using an uh an air base in Iran. | |
| So there's some kind of an alliance there. | |
| Here we gave away the store to Iran they're still not happy. | |
| They charge us a hundred million dollars for each of the four guys and it was a ransom and uh they go over to the uh the Russian side. | |
| So should there be any doubt in your mind on who is more dangerous for this country and has proved it between Hillary and a guy that's never held office and never did anything to damage this country in any way. | |
| John I love your passion. | |
| We're at time but I'm gonna take up this issue on the other side of the brick or actually at the top of the hour. | |
| We'll talk about Iran the cash for Iran, Russia using its bases and a whole lot more. | |
| Buck sex been in for rush we'll be right back. | |
| Yeah Buck Sexton here in for rush on the E IB Uh we got a quick one, so I'm just gonna say that in the next hour we'll be hitting on the cash for hostages deal with Iran. | |
| Also talking about Russia and use of their airbase a little bit, and then we'll get into the Trump campaign, all the latest with that. | |
| I've got a monitor on in here uh with MSNBC on. | |
| I love it. | |
| The at the bottom of the screen it says Trump takes Intel briefing very seriously. | |
| Yeah, I would I would hope so. | |
| Uh it's a classic MSNBC moment for you. | |
| Trump listens with focus to national security briefing by intelligence community. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yes, he does, MSNBC. | |
| Thank you for that. | |
| Really appreciate it. |
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