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Aug. 5, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 5, 2016, Friday, Hour #2
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Political caucus is Republican insiders, well, not all, but the Republicans that are part of the caucus, they're insiders, they are think tankers, consultants, political operatives, and they think Trump ought to drop out.
I've been thinking about that.
If Trump drops out, who would be ideal to take over?
Live from the Southern Command in Sunny South Florida.
It's open line Friday.
I put a lot of thought into that.
The most recent break.
It's great to have you on.
Tell the number is 800.
282-2882.
And remember the deal with an open line Friday is you can talk about whatever you want to talk about.
Who better?
Look at all these Republicans already joined Hillary's campaign.
We can't draft Meg Whitman.
We can't draft Joey Hannah.
There are a number of Republicans that have refused to endorse Trump, say they just can't bring themselves to do it.
Now some of them have not crossed the aisle and sidled up to Hillary, but many of them have.
So you have to take those Republicans off the list.
Who would be ideal?
How about, and just hear me out on this before your knee-jerk reactions.
How about Kazir Khan as the replacement Republican nominee for Donald Trump?
I mean, how could Hillary even run against the father of a war hero?
How could Hillary run?
How could she she couldn't say a word?
She couldn't criticize him.
That's what we've learned from Democratic Convention.
You can't criticize Kazir Khan.
Now you can criticize Pat Smith.
We couldn't put Pat Smith up there, and we couldn't put Charles Woods up there because it's been established.
You can criticize them, even though they lost uh sons in uh in battle.
But Kazir Khan is above you.
Can't criticize him.
Not even Mrs. Clinton.
He's a Muslim debut.
Double insurance against any criticism whatsoever.
Now, Les, no, I know what you're thinking.
I know what you're thinking, but it's already a push to get Kazir Khan to run for office.
I have the story in my stack.
It's kind of convoluted, but they want him to run for the Virginia legislature.
They want him to run for a seat that is held by a Democrat at the moment.
But get this.
I think if I've got this right, I don't have the story right in front of me, but I think the the one of the children, the son of the incumbent is in charge of a pack that is set up to re-elect the incumbent.
Now the pack cannot have any direct contact with a candidate.
It could be just a way that they're suggesting to funnel some payment money to Kazir Khan.
Now I know some of you are saying, wait a minute, Rush, and I know you know that I've thought of this.
We say Rush is not.
I mean, he's foreign-born.
He can't, he can't, he can't run for president.
That could be fixed, folks.
He could have a bipartisan bill that can fix that.
I mean, in a couple of days, because nobody can attack Kazir Khan.
If somebody puts him up, wants to be president, you run the risk of being critical.
Besides, it's it's it's it's it's I think this is a xenophobic law anyway, to say you have to be born in the United States in order to be president.
That's that's typical of the arrogance and the and and the conceit that is part of being an American.
Who are we to think?
Who are we to tell anybody that you have to be born here in order to be our president?
You realize how many qualified their people are to be president of the United States that weren't born here, and and to say that they can't be purely xenophobic.
That's how the left would look at it too.
It's the son of the guy pushing Khan to run.
That is working for the incumbent that has the pack.
So you have Khan versus Hillary.
Kazir Khan versus Hillary.
Mrs. Kazir Khan versus Bill Clinton on the campaign trail.
You ought to see the way they're looking at me.
Well, add it all up.
You can't criticize him.
He's already been proclaimed unassailable citizen.
Even Mrs. Clinton couldn't criticize him.
Mrs. Clinton used him.
Democrats brought him aboard.
He knows the Constitution.
He understands that.
I mean, he can wave that around.
And there's no Republican.
You imagine a Republican to stand up, oh, we can't have that.
There's no future in that.
Republican stands up and says, no, no, we cannot have Kazir Khan.
He's not even a Republican.
See, you are anti-Muslim.
See, you are a bigot.
I mean, it's made to order.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Short of that, Pope Francis, if you hear what Pope Francis did.
The transgender thing, pro-Pope Francis.
Now, he was in uh, where was he?
Well, I'll tell you what he said, then I'll I'll give you the details.
It's a uh it's a story from the AP.
Pope Francis describes transgenderism as the annihilation of man.
The uh the Pope, who is uh known for his more liberal views on issues such as homosexuality, made these remarks at a closed meetings with bishops in Krakow.
That's Poland, for those of you in Rio Linda.
However, a transcript of the conversation was later released by the Vatican.
And what Ilpapa said was today in schools they are teaching this to children.
To children, that everyone can choose their gender as a result of persons and institutions who donate money.
And he went on to describe the process of ideological colonizing, backed by very influential countries, which he did not identify.
One such colonization, he said, I'll say it clearly with its first and last name is gender.
Now the Pope's comments have upset LGBT activists.
Mary Ann Duty Burke, the executive director, the LGBT Catholic organization, Dignity USA, claiming that the comments show his dangerous ignorance of gender identities.
There is, I can't remember the man's name.
I'm sure someone will furnish it to me momentarily, just a mental block.
The former head of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University.
And I thought this guy would catch hell when I there was a story about this, it's a year ago now, who came out and said that transgenderism is a mental disorder, and to engage in any for psychiatry or psychology to engage in any action that treats it and and justifies it,
or uh conducts surgery to further it, is actually committing a gigantic act against humanity.
He said that transgenders are suffering from a mental disorder, and it is a it is a great disservice to them to treat this as something legitimate that can be fixed.
Dr. Paul McHugh, that's who it is.
Dr. Paul McHugh went on to say that it's it's it's very dangerous and damaging to say that this is something can be fixed by surgery.
And but he went on to assail this as a as a mental disorder, and there wasn't one peep.
Maybe it's because he's retired.
No, I know there why they're why he did this, it doesn't fit the news that the drive-by media wants to report.
And it I think they judge, hey, we can't attack this guy.
This guy's Johns Hopkins.
He's pretty good on other issues, but on this, they just decided they wouldn't succeed, trying to destroy him.
So they decide just to ignore it so that nobody would know what he said.
And now the Pope comes along and describes transgenderism as the annihilation of man.
Uh Mary Ann Duddy Burke, again, the head of the LGBT Catholic organization, Dignity USA, says it shows that the Pope doesn't understand the danger that his words can mean for gender non-conforming people, particularly those who live in countries with laws or cultural pressures that put these people at risk for violence.
The Pope seminally denounced by the LGBT news site Pink News after his comments.
So it's um it's not all better roses out there in a number of different places.
Closing the loop here on the polling day, in addition to the political insider story from an overjoyed McClatchy news Democrat presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has surged to a 15-point lead over the reeling gaff-plagued Republican Donald Trump, according to an this is a news story.
Now bear in mind that all of these so-called gaffes are really media inventions, such as Trump's terrible gaff about asking the Russians to hack Hillary's email.
Trump never asked the Russians to hack her email.
What Trump said, hey, maybe the Russians can find Hillary's emails and give them to the media.
Yeah, that'll work.
And that immediately became I don't think I've ever heard anything worse in American politics.
Well, you hear that a Republican candidate for the office of president was actually asking an enemy of the United States to hack his opponents.
Not at all what Trump did.
But that's what it became.
Remember the Trump gaff suggesting Mr. Khan's wife didn't speak because under Muslim tradition, the wife gives way to her husband.
Those were two gaffes were supposed to believe that history will someday say someday say brought down the Trump campaign.
Meanwhile, you still can't find any news about Obama paying ransom.
You can't find any news about the Obama stewardship of an economic decline in this country that we're now being ex asked to accept as normal.
No, the news is all.
Trump all the time.
Reuters ipsos.
Clinton leads among likely voters following a Democrat convention.
Among likely voters, Clinton leads Trump 43 to 39 among registered voters.
Clinton leads Trump by eight points, 44 to 36.
Wait, it's only 4% among likely voters, which is the gold standard.
I mean, that's the gold standard sample.
Likely voters, that's better sample than registered voters or adults.
That's within the margin of error, by the way.
But Reuters over there, I mean, I'm sorry, but Clatchy has it at 15 points.
15 points, Ipsos Reuters has it at four.
And I can find a poll that has that has uh Trump up by almost a point.
And that poll is called the long room poll.
You may never have heard of the long room poll, but it's out there.
Anyway, it's open line Friday, which means we try to take uh greater number of phone calls than we do normally, and we'll stay devoted to that.
We come back from this break.
We'll get right to the phones.
And meeting and suppressing all audience expectations every day.
Rush Limbaugh here at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Back to the phones.
Chris in Waterloo, Iowa.
Glad you waited, sir.
You're next.
It's great to have you here.
Thank you, Rush.
It is an absolute honor to speak with you.
Thank you for listening to you for over 20 years.
Thank you.
I really appreciate that more than you'll ever know.
Listen, I think These polls are wrong, okay?
And I want to revert back to something you said in past elections.
Now I realize Obama won two elections, but I believe it was you that stated there were some people out there in the polling data back in the past two elections that said um, yeah, they would vote for Obama because they didn't want to be harassed because if they said they weren't going to vote for him, they would be viewed as racist.
Right.
That's the it's known as the Wilder effect.
Yes.
I think what is happening here is the same thing in reverse is happening with Trump.
There are people out there that will never admit they're going to vote for Trump for whatever reason.
They just don't want to be harassed, but when they get behind that curtain, they're going to pull the lever for him.
Do you know people like that?
Why why do you think this is the case?
You know, I I I don't have the statistics or you know the demographics.
I know all the analytics that go with with uh elections and things like that.
I'm basing this purely off of emotion, okay.
Trump spurs emotion in people.
And right now I think the main emotion is anger.
I don't know if that's a good motivating emotion, but I think that's what's happening right now.
Trump is their voice.
He's the one that can say things, and sometimes I myself will kind of cringe at his delivery.
You do.
You do.
I absolutely I do.
But it doesn't matter.
You're still gonna vote.
Because I love it because he's given it to them.
Right.
Or you'll cringe, but you're still gonna vote for him.
Absolutely, I'm going to vote for him.
But listen, I'm not gonna put a Trump sign in my yard or anything like that.
Or I not because I just don't think I just don't want to take the harassment.
This is my point.
I just think I get would get my neighbors riled up, they would say something, they all my.
Okay, so that's why you think there's a wilder effect with Trump.
I I told a story yesterday.
I went up to my Connecticut, it was Southport, Connecticut, Fairfield uh annual country club uh member guest.
They go up every July.
And my host said, bring a bunch of those never Hillary bumper stickers from your website.
I'll pay for them.
I said, okay.
So I gonna, but I didn't pay for them because I I is my site.
I I could get them free.
So I grabbed 50 of them and I took them up there, and he could only give ten away.
There were 50 people that wanted them, but 40 people didn't want to have anybody know they were supporting Trump.
Now, this is a deep blue state.
But it that and all this is anecdotal.
I I would never say this proves that there is flawed polling data on Trump.
But it's peer pressure is is something profound.
And with the media all in for Hillary and further with it with the media now going all palin on Trump, it's the same situation.
People who loved Palin and intended supporters did not want to say so publicly because the reaction was, how can you?
She's an idiot.
And they couldn't tell you why, it's just what the media was saying.
And they would, well, you she said she could she rush you from her front yard.
She never said it.
But they thought she said it.
Tina Fay said it in a stupid Saturday night live routine.
Sarah Palin never said it.
And then Charles Gibson trying to make it look like she never read newspapers.
And then that she didn't know what the uh the Bush doctrine was and all this sort of thing.
They create this impression that she's a daughtering fool.
And they cement that.
So therefore, anybody that says they support her is gonna have what do you mean?
She's a blithering idiot on the work.
Nobody wants to try to defend that.
Most people can't, so they just shut up.
And this is what the theory is that a lot of people with uh supporting Trump.
I always was of the impression during the primaries that it was a very proudful thing to say that you were a Trump supporter.
I mean, you you went out there, you attended the rallies, you beat your chest like Tarzan in a jungle, and you took on all comers.
But now that the media's gone one eighty and is now determined to destroy Trump, people have gone silent.
So you better you better hope that that's the case out there.
Uh it's something people reach for when they start to have doubts.
Uh I'm glad you called Chris very much.
It's Howard and Braden, Florida.
Great to have you with us on the EIB network.
Hi.
Hey, Rush.
How are you doing?
Very well, sir.
Thank you.
It's an honor to talk to you.
Thank you again.
I would just like to real quick say hello to my two sons.
One's a uniformed police officer in Cobb County, Georgia, and the other one's a detective in Hillsburg County, Georgia.
Hello, boys.
Proud of you.
Rush, uh, first off, uh I've got a bumper sticker for you.
Liar liar pant suit on fire, never Hillary.
Pants suit on fire.
And saying, I like she puts her pants suit on one leg at a time on the right.
Pants on fire, Rush, pants on fire.
In this case, it's a pant suit on fire.
Right.
Um, as a Vietnam veteran, Navy veteran, I wanted to relay to you what one of my thoughts are on this 400 million dollars.
Okay, hang on because I've got a break here in five seconds, and I don't want to try to have you say it in that limited amount of time.
Be back and continue after this.
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This is Howard and Braden, Florida.
You've got an eye.
Is it Braden or Bradenton?
Brandon Rush, Brandon, Florida, just outside of Tampa.
Oh, Brandon.
Just outside of what?
Just outside of Tampa.
Just outside of Tampa.
Cool.
Okay.
So you have a theory about the $400 million ransomware.
The point being that Iran really owes us, owes us millions of dollars for the damage they did by providing the materials, the engineering and design and materials of the all the IEDs and shape charges that they provided to the bad guys in Iraq over the years.
Why did we not levy a claim against all this money?
400 million dollars, and have that money set aside and put into account for the veterans administration to pay for all the medical care that our veterans are going to need over the next 30 or 40 years as a result of all these injuries that was caused by the material and design information that Iran uh applied or provided to the to the to the bad guys in Iraq.
It's just amazing to me that you've got a government that has is known as one of the worst terrorist providers in this world, that we would provide them 400 million dollars instead of setting aside that 400 million dollars for the veterans administration to provide for assistance to all the vets that either wounded or families of independents that will be out there for the next thirty or forty years.
I don't want to make you feel worse, but it's not 400 million.
It's 1.7 billion, and 400 million is a part of it.
In addition to that, there is a hundred and fifty billion dollars of Iranian assets that were frozen when we had slapped sanctions on them for violating agreed to terms in their nuclear plans.
And that's all been unfrozen.
So the the we we have seen to it that one of the world's largest state sponsors of terrorism has been able to reacquire 150 billion dollars, and which they openly say that they would use some of it for terrorist activity,
and which John Kerry, our Secretary of State who served in Vietnam, has acknowledged that they will probably use some of it to modernize or equip or whatever they do to sponsor terrorism.
Now the idea you'd have a great idea here that we should be extracting payments for the damage they've done, but we're doing the exact opposite.
And I a lot of people are asking, what is it the Iranians have on Obama?
Or what what it it makes so little sense that that's what people start asking.
Well, why in the world?
You know, of all the nations in the world, why in the world would you help?
In every way you can this nation become a nuclear power in that part of the world where we already have one and really only one ally, which is Israel.
Why?
And since there aren't any common sense answers that people can understand, they start trying to find other explanations.
this is this is not by any means the first example.
There are countless examples of the Obama administration being friendly with making overtures to Iran.
And in the middle of it, the Iranians never moderate.
We're told that there are moderates that we're dealing with now.
And that's why we can do this.
But it isn't true.
There aren't any moderates.
Rowani is not a moderate.
He's not really a leader.
He just does the the supreme leader is the Grand Ayatollah.
In this case, it's the Ayatollah hominy.
And do you ever wonder why Mahmud Achmedini Zad is not there?
It's for one reason or another, the Ayatollah hominy wanted to send him back to painting graffiti on walls.
And they put Rouani in there.
Because he obviously makes a better impression, is less imposing, he comes across as more moderate.
Ahmedini Zad was out there promising everybody what he was going to do.
Wipe us off the map and Israel off the map.
And by the way, while we're at it, we want to revive Germany.
The Holocaust never happened.
So they had to get rid of him because he didn't facilitate their desire to look less threatening.
So, excuse me, this relationship that our administration has with Iran, not just on the surface when we start drilling down deep, still doesn't make any sense.
Now we pay this ransom and the regime goes out of its way to say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's not a ransom.
They're bragging about it.
They've released video in a still shot of the palette containing the 400 million dollars.
Remember, though, the big story is none of that.
The big story today is how Donald Trump made a mistake.
He said that he saw the video of the money arriving.
And there is no video, the drive by, say.
That remains the uh the big story.
Gabriel in Riverside, California.
I'm glad you waited.
Open line Friday, your next welcome, sir.
Thank you very much for taking my call, Maharashi.
You bet.
Uh I had a question.
You had made a statement uh uh a couple shows back that if the offer was given to you to advise Trump on some matters that you would take it.
We definitely need your help.
Well, like Obi Rush Kenobi, we we need your help.
Obi Rush canobi.
I I did I didn't mean this in official way, I mean in terms of of uh becoming an advisor.
I I think somebody asked me if I was advising Trump, and I said, No.
Um all I meant was that if somebody called there, I would answer and I would talk to him, but that doesn't happen.
I I don't I'd be presumptive as hell to reach out.
I mean I they they have people know what all of us in the media happen to be saying, so they can use it or not, uh pick up the phone or not.
Uh I I'm like everybody else.
You know, I I know people that know Trump very well.
Uh I know Trump somewhat.
I mean, I I could call him and ask, you want to go play golf?
Uh you have any time in the next two weeks.
Could do that.
But it's it's it's not a close relationship like Rudy Giuliani has with him.
But it's it's friendly, it's mutual respect, and it's it's good it's good.
But what I'm hearing from people who are around him every day is that Donald Trump is Donald Trump, and he doesn't sit around taking advice.
He's got advisors, but one of the rubs is he's got it in his head how he's gonna do this.
And it it's it's not it's not an ego thing about about not taking advice, and it's it's not that he's obstinate, it's just that he's confident and thinks he knows what he knows and what he wants to say and so forth.
Um I just sit here like everybody else does and and watch it and analyze it.
One of the things that I have observed, I may I may have to revise this, by the way, as the reason I'm bringing this up.
I was talking to somebody the other day who does communicate with Trump regularly.
You asked me if if Trump were sitting here with us, what would you tell him?
And I basically said what I repeated on the air the other day.
I said, you've you've you've somehow somebody has to get through to him and see if it's possible that he can begin to see people like Hillary Clinton in an ideological way, meaning understand that as a liberal or progressive or leftist or whatever, that's where she's destructive.
That's where she's dangerous.
What she wants to do and how they go about doing it, and how he's going to be attacked, how they're going to do it.
If he had a basic foundational level understanding of that, then he would know in advance how they're going to come after him, because it's eminently easily predictable what they're going to do, and you can at least be prepared for it and have a retaliatory strategy if you want one.
And the person I was talking to is, oh, okay, it makes sense, makes sense.
I'm I'm wondering now.
Maybe that may not be the way to go for it.
I'm looking at the electorate.
There's a story here, and granted, this is about millennials.
Most young Americans say parties do not represent them.
Now, this is uh an AP story.
We take all this drive-by stuff with a grain of salt at the get-go, and then we delve into it and see if it has any merit.
Here's the it's it's from Jen Forward, which is a polling.
Do you realize how much of the daily news people consume today actually is nothing but polling data?
And it is increasing.
And there are polls nobody's ever heard of that are popping up.
And it doesn't matter.
Every poll is given the weight of authorit authoritativeness like any other poll is.
And we don't know who they are.
Now, in this particular poll, most young Americans say that the Republican and Democrat parties do not represent them, a critical data point after a year of ferocious presidential primaries that forced partisans on both sides to confront what and whom they stand for.
Now that's according to a Gen Forward poll that shows the disconnect holds true across racial and ethnic groups.
Only 28% of young adults overall saying that the two major parties do a good job of representing the American people.
Now it's not just this poll, but my the reason for my maybe withdrawing that advice with the full force of 100% advocacy is only because this, I heard the Huckabee say something the other day on TV that made me stop and think.
All of this is how do you reach the electorate?
All of this is based on how do you reach the electorate?
The drive-by's reach the majority of the electorate.
The drive-by's shape the news every day.
The drive-by's shape what most Americans know.
Like I was talking to a guy about this hostage story.
He's one of us, and he was just pulling his hair out.
I mean, this is a story it's got them dead to rights.
It's it's like it's like Charles Krauthammer said, you let a CEO do this, he's in jail in 10 days, 10 hours.
And my friend would say, Why are the American people?
They don't seem to be bothered by it.
There's no reaction.
It's not that they're not bothered, they don't know.
In your circle, in your world, it's reported that Obama paid ransom.
It's not that on CNN.
New York Times is not saying that.
And the New York Times feeds Yahoo and feeds Facebook.
And by the way, Google, you want to throw Google, Google may as well have an office in the West Wing.
Google is the media monopoly that ABC, CBS, NBC used to have In the 1970s, 1980s.
If you want to research anything, you go to Google, you put the search term in.
You have to go to page five before you find a conservative reference point on whatever it is you're researching.
So Google has given the drive-by's their or given the Democrats has given the left their media monopoly in that regard.
He who controls the search engine.
And then he who controls what's re So, if most Americans are not looking at this as a left versus right election, but instead insider versus outsider, or uh disruptive versus status quo, then maybe identifying Hillary as the leftist liberal whatever she is.
Maybe that's not the way to reach some of the electorate today.
Maybe uh millennials may not have the slightest interest in it, for example.
Still thinking about this.
It's a lot to analyze and figure out how, but though the the objective is how to reach people.
And then once you figure that out, how do you reach them?
How do you tailor the message?
Because it's gonna be in direct contradiction to what they're hearing everywhere else they get news.
Anyway, I have to take a break.
I appreciate the uh the call, Gabriel.
We will continue after this.
This is uh 13-year-old Walker in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
Keep audio soundbite number seven standing by.
Walker, how are you, sir?
I'm really good, Mr. Limbaugh.
It's an honor to meet you.
It's an honor that you are listening today.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
What's up?
Um, I go to public school, and my last year my teacher tried to tell my whole class that communism and socialism are the best forms of government.
So I stood up and proved them wrong.
You did?
Yeah.
You proved them wrong.
Did they admit that they were wrong, or did you just prove it for the class?
I proved the class, and my teacher pretended like he couldn't hear me.
Wait a minute.
Were you the only one speaking at the time you stood up and proved them wrong and the teacher still said he couldn't hear you?
Yeah.
Do you think that you succeeded in uh getting through to your other classmates convincing them that your teacher was not right?
Absolutely.
All right.
Cool, dude.
Way to go.
Thank you.
Way to go.
Did you go home tell your parents about this?
Yeah.
What'd they say?
What I told that him was that socialism, first of all, isn't the best form of government because all socialism does is make everyone in the society lazy.
Because they don't no matter if you're sitting on your couch all day or working as hard as you can, you still get paid the same amount of money.
And communism is even worse because they don't they don't give you money, they give you exactly what you need and don't let you have the freedom to use your money how you want to use it.
You are so right.
The and the other that you left out just one thing.
Communism has to build a wall to keep people in because most people want to escape it.
Yeah.
But what did your teacher what what why did your teacher say socialism and communism were the best?
Well, he was my social studies teacher, and I honestly don't know.
But what I'm gonna I have him next year.
Um, and what I want to say to him next year, because over the summer, because of this, I built an app, and it's a Hillary Clinton app where you tap her face, and every time you tap her, well, it's like a whack-a-mole game where she pops out of the White House, and every time you tap her face, she says one of her silly quotes.
It's called Never Hillary Clinton.
And so what I want to do, it shows them I teaches that anybody of any age can use the free market by bringing back a successful app at the end of summer.
How old are you, Walker?
Thirteen?
Yeah.
See, it's young men like you that gives gives us all fogies hope for the future.
You you keep have you have you read the Rush Revere books, Walker?
No, but Well, stand by.
No, no, no, no, no.
That's all you need to stand by and give Mr. Snerdley your address.
I'm gonna send you All of them.
I'm gonna send you also you can because you they will help you, they're right up your alley.
I would be honored to send these to you.
I have to take a break now, but I'm so glad you got through.
We'll be right back, folks.
And don't hang up, Walker.
Don't hang up.
No, no, no.
I heard him say he's got an app.
I just went to the uh the app store.
There is an app called Never Hillary, and it's a tap app, but I don't think it's Walker's because the same outfit has a uh has a Never Trump app as well.
So we'll try to find out more about Walker's app that he was all excited about.
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