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July 14, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 14, 2016, Thursday, Hour #3
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We have a big story that's developing right now that I want to spend a few moments to talk about and invite your reaction to.
Again, this isn't confirmed.
But you have numerous news organizations reporting that Donald Trump and his campaign are telling top Republican officials that Trump is choosing Indiana governor Mike Pence as his vice presidential running mate.
The only hesitancy I have in being convinced that this is what's going to happen is Trump's campaign has been so unpredictable, and Trump has run such an unusual campaign.
It's hard to imagine, though, that they would put something like this out only to pull it back.
I mean, I can't imagine that they would do that to Mike Pence, and it doesn't seem to be in keeping with the relationship that Trump has developed over the last several days with top officials of the Republican National Committee and so on.
They've worked remarkably well in getting the convention planning going on.
They seem to have smacked down any type of rebellion from any delegates from the convention in terms of a major change in rules and so on.
So with everybody seeming to get along pretty well right now, I don't think Trump and his campaign would just throw a total curveball out there.
But I'm not sure.
What I can tell you is that this story first broke at a publication called Roll Call.
The Indianapolis Star is reporting it.
The Wall Street Journal is saying that Republican sources are saying that Trump's campaign is telling people this.
I know I have the New York Times here.
Their language, Donald Trump's campaign, is signaled strongly to Republicans in Washington that he will pick Mike Pence.
And then some Republicans caution the party's Mercurial presidential candidate may still backtrack on his apparent choice.
So it certainly seems like it would be Trump.
The line from the Trump campaign continues to be that there will be an announcement tomorrow morning in Manhattan of his vice presidential running mate.
Newt Gingrich, who was apparently the other man on the final list of two, said earlier today he expected to be told this afternoon it were it him, was it to if it were going to be him, he hasn't said anything here.
Drudge report reporting that it is likely that Pence and Trump will appear on 60 Minutes together this coming Sunday night.
Right.
I went in at the end of the last hour with a very brief biography of Mike Pence, who I think isn't a household name to most people who have been following politics, but is well known to those of you that are really into it that are political junkies.
So I'll give you the short version here real quickly again.
House of Representatives from 2001 to 2013 came in and had a reputation of being something of a reformer.
He was one of those that pushed for spending restraints, talked of support for a balanced budget amendment.
He was one of those that made earmark reform a priority.
Became the chairman of the House Republican Conference, that's like the caucus, part of the leadership team during the time of Boehner.
Mitch Daniels, highly regarded, highly successful governor of Indiana, chose not to run for reelection in the 2012 election.
Pence returned to Indiana, ran for governor, and has served as governor ever since.
He is respected within the social conservative movement.
I mentioned this organization called the Value Voters Summit.
These are people that focus on issues pertaining to right to life, family, etc.
Pence actually won their straw poll for president.
So this appears to be the choice of Donald Trump.
One of the things I wonder, presuming he does take Trump, excuse me, take Pence, how does this sit with the Trump voters?
Trump himself has run a non-traditional campaign, has had a lot of nasty things to say about a lot of Republicans, and has certainly bucked the Republican establishment.
This, on the other hand, would seem like a more conventional choice.
What Trump obviously has to do here is balance two things.
He's, I think, just clearly and obviously reaching out and trying to bring in those conservative supporters that conservative Republicans that just won't embrace him.
You still have this large never Trump movement.
You've got a lot of Republicans.
I'm not going to vote for Donald Trump.
I'm not going to vote for either of them.
He's trying to reach out and grab them.
On the other hand, he needs to keep the enthusiasm from that core group of supporters that have been with him from the beginning that have been so loyal and so enthusiastic.
So I'm going to throw this out to the audience if you'd like to comment on the evident selection of Mike Pence as Trump's running mate.
1-800-282-2882 is the phone number at EIB.
This also comes on the heels of two significant polling developments.
The Rasmussen reports indicates that Trump is now leading Hillary Clinton by seven points nationally.
There's a poll that shows that in Ohio, Trump is dead even with Hillary Clinton.
This despite not at this point having the support of the governor John Kasich and the CBS News New York Times poll, which has consistently shown Clinton ahead of Trump.
That poll out today now has the race dead even.
I think Trump has the wind at his back.
He goes into the convention with in Cleveland with some momentum.
It remains to be seen how people will regard the selection of Pence if it happens.
I guess I'd say it's a safe pick, not as polarizing as, say, the selection of Gingrich or Chrissy might have been.
Let's go to the phones.
Hey, how are you doing?
I'm great, thanks.
I'm in this weird Nashville area.
Listen, I I I heard what you said.
If it's Pence, I'll be thrilled.
I voted for Cruz.
Um, but I I will vote for a goldfish over Hillary Clinton any day of the week.
So my question is though, why wouldn't he grab if he was so interested, if Trump was so interested in grabbing the Republican base, why would he not choose Cruz as his running mate?
Why would they not try to pull that party together and say, you know what?
I know you don't like me personally.
I don't care.
I work with plenty of people that don't like me personally.
Let's do what's best.
Let's pull this party together, run with me.
I think that's an excellent question, Kim, given the fact that if, you know, Cruz finished second, Trump won, Cruz finished second, and Cruz campaigned, the people who supported Cruz are among those that I think are having the biggest hang up and going over to Donald Trump.
Why not just put Cruz on the ticket?
I think, in fairness to Trump, something that I've not been accused of being all that often.
I've been a Trump critic on my show, as I said in Milwaukee.
In fairness to Trump, he's being asked and told that he needs to reach out to the Republican mainstream, asking him to go all the way out and grab Cruz.
He's going to be a pretty I mean Trump still has to be Donald Trump.
Donald Trump said some brutal things about Ted Cruz, and Ted Cruz said some brutal things about Donald Trump.
Trump is a business guy.
He's somebody who I suspect in his line of work doesn't take a lot of back talk from his underlings.
He's somebody who's in charge, and he needs somebody who's going to listen to him and do what he's told.
I think it would be way too quick to simply say that we can put this together and be all kissy face after the stuff that went back and forth.
I mean, you have Cruz that's still furious about Trump's implication that Cruz's father had something to do with Lee Harvey Oswald.
You had the back and forth about their two wives and the photos.
You had some really mean-spirited things there that were said there.
And I suspect that Trump thinks that Cruz isn't over it, and Cruz probably isn't over it with Trump.
That would have been hard to do.
On the other hand, Mike Pence, who did endorse in the Indiana primary, uh, which was won by Trump, Pence, the governor, endorsed Cruz, but he never was one who was out there saying Donald Trump is a wingnut Donald Trump because Trump is a demagogue.
Donald Trump doesn't have the character to be president, things that a lot of Republicans did say.
Pence never did any of those things.
So I think that Trump here has somebody that he feels comfortable with, somebody who has links to the mainstream of the Republican Party and the conservative wing.
But to ask him to go out and grab somebody like Cruz was probably something that neither of them would have been able to swallow.
Here's the other thing.
If Cruz is put on the ticket the whole time he's out there, he'd be asked by the media, well, what about this that you said about Trump?
Now you're saying Trump ought To be our president, but you said all of these terrible things before.
And Trump would be asked.
You know, you made fun of Ted Cruz.
You said that Ted Cruz was an embarrassment, that he can't get along with anyone.
Now you want him to be the vice president, what gives on that?
They don't have to answer any of those questions here.
They start with a relatively fresh slate.
What Pence doesn't bring is any kind of national identity.
As I say, I suspect most people have never heard of him, and that this is the first that they will have heard of him.
Thank you for the call, Kim.
It is a good question, though.
I mean, why not just put Ted Cruz on if you want to unify the party, make everyone happy?
You still have people who have to get along with one another.
Now, in politics, enemies have gotten on the same ticket.
John F. Kennedy picked Lyndon Johnson.
Uh Ronald Reagan picked the first George Bush after they had run against one another.
The difference there is that those are politicians making political arrangements.
The whole point of Trump's campaign has been that this is not what he is, that he's tired of politics, that he's not he doesn't do things the way politicians do.
So to expect that Trump is going to just morph into a conventional candidate is too much to ask.
What I've suggested to people who are on the Republican side but are reluctant, stubborn, whatever word you want to use to embrace Trump, should be asking for is you can't expect Trump to stop tweeting.
You can't expect Trump to stop being flamboyant.
You can't expect Trump to stop shooting from the hip.
You can't expect Trump to suddenly change his entire demeanor.
What you can ask for, though, are signals that he's with you on the important policy questions.
You're for those who don't like his style, you're never going to get him to change his style.
He's Donald Trump, for heaven's sakes.
But he has, I think, and it's one of the reasons that I am very comfortable and happy that I've made the personal decision to support him.
He came out and said, These are the types of individuals I'll put on the United States Supreme Court.
Well, he was asked to, well, what kind of judges?
He did that.
He's come out now and embraced the Republican platform that was passed this week that I think ninety percent of American Republicans are comfortable with.
He's formed an alliance with the ultimate Republican establishment, the Republican National Committee, in which they've agreed to do joint fundraising.
The Republicans raise for Trump, Trump raises for the Republicans.
He's talked to a number of people within the party and taken input from a lot of party leaders on who his vice presidential choice should be.
He's chosen as his campaign manager, someone who comes out of a traditional Republican background in Paul Manafort and got rid of Corey Lewandowski who rubbed a lot of the establishment figures the wrong way.
My point is it sure seems to me like Trump has tried to reach out and accommodate all of those Republicans who've had a hang up with him.
I think Trump has gone farther than I would have thought that he would have gone.
Now, if you're just going to be, I can't support Donald Trump, I don't want to be the president, I think he's going to be a disaster.
Nothing's going to win you over.
But for those who are open to the idea who needed some signals that this is a guy who will do the kinds of things as president that I want and shares the policy beliefs that I have, Trump is answering positively every single one of these questions, including the selection of Pence.
I'd be more concerned that the people who like Trump the rebel are afraid that Trump is going too mainstream.
I don't think he is, but a lot of the people who've supported Donald Trump all along like the fact that he was way outside the box and was not part of the political establishment.
In any event, this is all developing, it's all fluid, but it does look like Mike Pence is Donald Trump's running mate.
I'm Mark Elling sitting in for Rush.
There's a coat hanger hanging right there on the window ledge.
Now, is that really there, or is this like this Pokemon thing where I only think that it's there?
The line between reality and virtual reality blurred.
People have talked about the presidential election.
I think I use the line that we now live in a reality show, that our presidential election is a reality show.
If Mike Pence is indeed Donald Trump's choice, it will be an indication that Trump is trying, perhaps successfully, to bridge the outside with the inside.
If he can pull this off, he's in the game and he could win.
Let's go to Glenn Mills, Pennsylvania.
Kathleen, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program with Mark Belling.
Hello.
Hi, you're on, Kathleen.
I I'm laughing.
It has nothing to do with it here, but uh when I was talking to the gentleman and picked up the phone, he said that that I mentioned the three things.
I hit the trifactor.
She didn't pick up right away.
And I'm thinking, now what I think I'm gonna do when I get off, I'm gonna go and have an off-track betting by me.
I'm gonna bet the trifactor.
And go and bet the trifecta.
Well, I I'm into vetting horses, and I will tell you the trifectors are very hard.
By the way, you're already wrong about something.
You didn't talk to a gentleman you talked to both snerdly.
But what was on your mind let's go for that trifecta.
What was on your mind, Kevin?
Well, uh Pence.
Uh my thinking was, of course, like everyone else, they were down to the three.
My thinking was new, great, but he's too old.
And I'm he's what, like seventy-five and I should say I'm thinking three, you know.
But I and I think Pence um not Pence, uh Christie.
Um, I'm in Pennsylvania, so I kind of I like him because he's Jersey.
Right.
But I think of it more as a pit bull.
I I kind of like people like that.
I think back to Tom, if you remember, he was on uh the boardwalk in Jersey, and the guy said something to him, he like went after him instead of walking away, which is what I would have done.
So I think that a lot of people it would be Trump and him would be, should I say two alike?
Yeah, and that was my notion that uh and I I want to get to your analysis on Pence.
My whole notion on Christie was that he's just a younger Trump.
You know, while Trump is from New York and Christie's from New Jersey, when I think of Trump, I almost think of New Jersey because of Atlantic City and so on, to the same kind of brash, brusque, loud, outspoken, provocative kind of guy that they're almost too alike, and I don't know if they would have meshed together, but in terms of putting together a ticket, it would be it was like they're almost the exact same thing, and it didn't have the right kind of feel to me, which I think is what you were saying.
I uh I like your observations on both of the first two.
Tell me what your thoughts are on Pence and how familiar with him have you uh uh in fact are you?
I'm not familiar with him, but but I but I have you know heard of him.
I I knew the name, but I didn't know you know too much about him.
Of course, his name came up, I kinda went more into it.
But he's calmer.
Do you know what I mean?
I think he he he's less like Trump that way.
He also doesn't back him like uh a hundred percent, which I think people like that, that he's not gonna be like him exactly in his thoughts.
And like I said, the the younger, I think uh people are going to like that idea that he's younger.
And the other thing is that the experience.
What was he in Congress as they say like ten years twelve years and a governor for four, so there's a fair amount of political experience there, which of course Trump doesn't have.
You mentioned younger uh tr uh Pence has the same curse that every guy with gray hair has.
He's you know, he's got that silver kind of hair, so he looks older than he is.
Fact, in fact, Pence is fifty-seven years old, which is kind of in the mainstream of when people get gigs like this, but he looks a little bit older than it that he than he is.
You mentioned the style.
I noticed that Trump made a comment earlier in the week that he wanted his vice presidential candidate to be and he used the term the pit bull who was going to go out and do the attacking, and then a day later he backed off on that because I don't sense that Pence is the pit bull type.
I mean, Trump is the pit bull type.
Pence, I don't think would serve that.
I don't know though that you need two pit bulls on the same ticket.
It almost becomes overwhelming in the same way that Hillary Clinton probably has to choose someone that she isn't, meaning honest, decent, trustworthy, uncorrupt.
And she does.
Hillary Clinton has to choose someone who is squeaky clean because everybody knows what she is.
She needs to choose somebody that has some credibility with the American public that people can trust, because everybody knows that she completely is lacking in that area.
Trump, if people have concerns about him for being too knee-jerk, he's shoots in the hip.
Who knows what Trump's going to do when he's in office?
I even have people say the button.
By having a vice presidential choice who seems to not have those characteristics, I think that's a positive.
In the same way that Dick Cheney, who had years of experience, was a good running mate for W. Bush who had only been a governor.
You can make the case that someone like Pence and his temperament are the perfect match for someone like Donald Trump.
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I managed to cob one of those that I'm in here.
I'm not going to take the coat hanger.
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Uh do want to tell you.
Is Mark Stein's umbrella still here?
I won't.
Where's the bathroom key?
I'm going to take that out right now.
Make sure I don't leave with that.
Take that and put it out here.
Uh did want to mention the Limbaugh letter.
Uh I want to mention this part because I know who Heather McDonald is.
She's really good.
She's one of the best conservatives in the country on issues of crime, policing, urban urban affairs, and so on.
Uh, Russia's an interview with her in the August issue of the Limbaugh Letter.
Uh, the name of her latest book is The War on Cops, The How the New Attack on Law and Order Makes Everyone Less Safe.
Obviously, very relevant given the protests over the last several days.
The developing news that we've been discussing, uh, several of these organizations are reporting that Mike Pence, the governor of Indiana, is the choice of Donald Trump to be his vice presidential running mate.
I want to continue to put a caution on this.
This is not confirmed.
The Trump campaign isn't confirming it.
Several reports indicate that, you know, this is still Donald Trump.
It might not be a final decision.
If it isn't a final decision, it will be kind of confusing as to why they put out that it was going to be Pence.
But we don't know for certain that that's who it's going to be.
But you have a number of news organizations that have reported that Trump is choosing Pence.
Most of these are quoting top Republican sources, which implies to me that Trump is telling people that his choice is Mike Pence.
Our phone number here is 1800-282-2882.
Let's go to the phones and parameters, New Jersey.
Nancy, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program with Mark Belling.
Hi, how are you?
I'm great.
Listen, I I just want to make a few statements.
Um, you know, I'm a loyal Trump supporter.
I was a Democrat.
I switched to independent.
Uh, I think Pence is a great choice, someone growing up in a moderate state that is going so far left and into the nanny state.
It's not good for the country.
And I want to uh stress the religious aspect.
The the politicians, you know, you if you religion forces you to police yourself.
If you don't have religious values to police yourself, then you force the government to make laws, and that's communism.
I'm sorry.
And Loretta Wynch, this whole PC stuff, I mean, she's made it clear, you know, we're gonna go after people who make bad comments about this group or that group.
That should be policed by the individual, and that comes through with religion.
So y if you take away religion from this country, it you're inviting communism.
Now let's talk about Hillary Clinton and that whole leftist people.
The 1960s they embraced the drug culture.
70s, it was the sex revolution, eighties.
We got AIDS, uh skyrocketing divorce, unwanted pregnancies, teenage pregnancies, single mothers, nineteen nineties, tech stock rally, great, but then a crash, NAFTA's put in.
Now you're coming into the 2000s, and these crazy people want to run the country.
I don't think so.
If you you may be upset as being a Trump supporter, maybe, you know, because you're a moderate like I am.
But this is good.
This is a good thing.
As far as Ted Cruz goes, he's a nice.
Well, when you say you, I I want to make clear I'm not a moderate.
I consider myself uh to be a right winger.
The point I think you're making is that you are rather moderate politically, correct?
Yes, I am, but I feel that we are losing our ourselves.
We need some religion back into this country to police ourselves, not let the government do it for us.
The constitution is at stake.
That is important.
We hear from Ruth Beta Ginsburg Clear that the court is biased, and she's made it clear.
She was a plant by Clint Clinton, you know, for later on.
I mean, she's I'm so glad Trump is in her head.
Cruz, let's talk about him.
Nice guy, nice guy.
But you know what?
His wife is on the council of foreign relations.
He's a globalist.
Newt, great guy, he's a globalist.
We can't have that.
Pence is not involved with that stuff to stay.
Trump needs to stay true about getting us out of this globalist mess, because Nancy, if you were a gun, you'd be an AR fifteen.
You've got things flying around all over the place.
You know, people always tell me when I do rush, Mark, you interrupt too much.
So I'm trying not to interrupt.
But if I wait until you go through the entire list, if I react to all of these things, I won't I I I will I will remember any of them.
You've given me a lot there.
So let me react to a couple of the things, a couple of the things that that you had to say.
Uh the appeal that Trump has to moderates in terms of politics, but conservative in terms of American identity, that's obviously been his sweet spot.
The people that are ideologically driven on the right are those that haven't yet bought into the notion of Donald Trump.
Now, Nancy and her call talked about religion.
Whether you discuss religion specifically and religious values specifically, or not, you do have running for president of the United States, a woman who at every step of her life has made the immoral decision.
When ever faced with a decision between going with the truth and going with a lie, she's lied.
She lied about the commodities trades.
Well, I never did it anymore because I got bored with doing it.
She lied about Whitewater.
She lied about not having the billing records.
When she got to the White House, she lied about the motivations for firing the travel office employees.
When she sat at Bill Clinton's side when women were accusing him of sexual improprieties, she lied about them.
When the allegations came forward about Monica Lewinsky, she suggested that all sorts of people on the right from Rush Limbaugh on down were liars and were part of a right wing conspiracy.
She lied every opportunity she's had to tell the truth.
When the Benghazi event occurred, which was a terror attack against the United States, she again made up a lie because it was politically convenient to her boss, Barack Obama, to create the impression that terrorism was dead, and she lied about that video.
When caught not using emails properly, she lied and said she wanted to have everything on one device when that wasn't the motivation.
She lied and said that there were no classified documents that went through her email.
She lied about all of those things.
So when you talk about the notion of religion and values, it isn't simply someone who says, I believe in the Bible or I go to church or this is the church that I'm a part of.
It's about whether or not you govern your life by any kind of sense of moral code at all.
Now the critics of Trump will say, well, he's no choir boy either.
He's had a few wives and he had all the girlfriends.
All of that is true.
The alternative though is someone who I think can't make a moral decision to save her life.
That's true.
In some of the cases that Hillary Clinton has been involved in, the truth might have been the smarter thing politically to do.
She probably, if she had told the truth about the emails of the beginning, there might not have been an investigation.
She can't even tell the truth when it's in her interest to do so.
Anyway, that was my reaction to all that you said, Nancy.
I'll give you the last word.
Okay.
And the other thing I wanted to say is that, you know, the media, you know, bearing false witnesses, the eighth commandments, these this CNN and all these, they're bearing false witness when they lie.
That's breaking the Eighth Commandment.
I'm sorry.
And also, you know why the kids are getting fat in the neighborhoods?
There are no kids playing in the street anymore because everybody's petrified about the pedophiles and your kid getting hurt.
Okay, thank you for the call, Nancy.
That is now the end of Nancy.
She did cover, I think, almost every issue that is out there.
If I would have brought her back to the to Pokemon of the self-driving car, she would have had something on uh something on that as well.
Again, to r uh bring this uh around to a full circle, numerous news organizations reporting That Donald Trump is likely to choose Mike Pence, governor of Indiana, as his vice presidential running mate.
There is no confirmation of this from Trump's campaign, and there's always the possibility that it isn't true.
Certainly, a number of top Republicans think that it's true.
If it doesn't happen, if it's someone else, it would merely be the latest curveball in a campaign that hasn't had a pitch that was going right down the middle from the very beginning.
Anyway, my name is Mark Belling, and I'm sitting in for Rush Limbaugh.
Mark Belling's sitting in for Rush Limbaugh.
I don't know that I ever really succeeded in getting anybody to fully explain that whole Pokemon thing to me, but you almost need a millennial to explain a millennial phenomenon because A, millennials love talking about themselves, and B, they're the only people who actually understand one another.
There is another political story out there today that we need to cover in addition to these swirling rumors with regard to Mike Pence being Trump's running mate.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Supreme Court Justice, who in three separate interviews this week ripped Donald Trump today, essentially expressed regret for doing so.
This is from the Washington Post, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg saw Tuesday to step back from the controversy over her disparaging remarks about Donald Trump, saying she should not have commented on the presumptive Republican presidential nominee and that she regrets her statements.
Yeah.
You know how when they have a trial and a witness says something that they shouldn't have said and the attorney objects and the judge sustains the objection, and then the judge turns to the jury and says, the juror will disregard everything that you heard that witness say.
Well, you can't disregard it in the same way that you can't unring a bell.
So Ruth Bader Ginsburg, not once, not twice, but three times, out of nowhere, pops up and rips Donald Trump.
And then before the week is over, she says she should not have done it.
Don't think for a minute that she regrets doing it.
She threw it out there and she has it there.
She's trying to reassert this impression out there that Trump is unhinged, that Trump is dangerous, and so on.
So I don't buy for a minute that she has any regret at all.
I think it was planned and it was calculated.
Let's start with this.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg is old.
She obviously doesn't like Donald Trump.
She, I think, feels this compulsion to go out and tell everyone how terrible Trump is.
And if it means that people will say that she's speaking out of bounds, what does she care?
It's not like anybody on the left is going to be all that bothered by it.
There's another point that needs to be made about it, though.
Look at the criticism that Trump got for his comments criticizing a judge in a case that he's involved in.
Trump was accused of trying to bully a judge and using race and ethnicity to make his point.
Well, here's Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
She's a justice of the United States Supreme Court.
If Trump wins, every policy initiative that passes in a Trump administration that is challenged in front of the United States Supreme Court is supposed to be judged by her.
How is her partiality not compromised?
If Trump is to be criticized for daring to question a judge, what do you say about a United States Supreme Court justice who butts her beak into the presidential election?
And another point on this.
We had in 2000 a presidential election that had a critical ruling going to the United States Supreme Court.
The whole Florida recount issue, the Gore V. Bush case.
How does Ruth Bader Ginsburg even pretend that she could be fair if there is a case that comes up dealing with this presidential election?
I don't think that she does care.
There is something about Trump that drives people crazy.
Obviously, some on the right have been bothered by it.
But people on the left become discombobulated by the guy.
I want to go to Pittstown, New Jersey and Todd.
Todd, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program with Mark Belling.
Yeah, hi, how are you doing?
Responding to the Pence uh uh Pence argument.
Yes.
Yeah, I think Pence is a great deal.
And in between his Congress and uh um governorship, wasn't he head of the Heritage Foundation?
I don't think so.
No?
I did like Newt, though.
I was rooting for Newt because he could talk his way out of a paper bag, He can take any position and make it sound like he's an expert.
I don't say that, you know, I don't say that insultingly, and a man is just so articulate.
And I was looking forward to that to just hearing him speak.
I hope uh I hope um Trump keeps him on in his speechwriter at least.
I I don't know if the decision on Pence is the decision or not.
As I say, there's a number of news organizations that are reporting it, but we don't have any confirmation of it.
Politically, I think Pence is probably a better choice because Trump needs to reach out to Republicans who aren't yet with him, and I'm not sure that Ging that Gingrich would have done that.
In terms of the comfort zone, though, of Donald Trump, I think he thinks that Newt Gingrich has had his back for months now during the Republican campaign, and he wants somebody who has his back.
That's the way that he's conducted his business, it's the way that he's conducted his life.
He, however, has gotten a lot of advice from a lot of Republicans that he needs to pick somebody who has more credentials, you know, let's call it street cred within the Republican Party.
And I think that Mike Pence gives him that, which is probably the reason he's going that route should he do so.
It would be another indication that as I said before, Donald Trump continues to do what conservatives and traditional Republicans keep saying they want him to do.
They've just laid out the speakers list for the Republican convention next week.
It is filled with traditional conservative Republicans.
My own Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin, House Speaker Paul Riot, Mitch McConnell, the Senate Republican leader.
They're all on the list.
Who's not on the list?
Polarizing figures like Sarah Palin, who has been a Trump supporter.
Again, Trump doing everything, presumably, that he's been suggested that he do in order to reach out and embrace the Republican Party.
One other comment that I want to make about this.
It's you've got to notice that every time Trump makes a major decision right now, he brings his children into this, plus his son-in-law Jared Kushner.
I think they are by far his closest advisors and the people that he trusts the most, and that's rather unusual for a presidential candidate to have children be top advisors, but I think in the case of Donald Trump, he relies on them and trusts their instincts.
I'm Mark Belling sitting in for Rush Limbaugh.
Mark Belling sitting in for Rush.
I'm glad the show is ending because I'm going to shove this right over to the big guy himself and have Rush handle it.
I've got an official notification here from the estate of Ulysses S. Grant objecting to Bo Snerdley's comment that he might have been more corrupt than Hillary Clinton.
Actually, it's not the estate of Grant.
Grant actually came out of the tomb, which is I think down the block here.
Grant came out of his his tomb to object to the comments of uh of Bo Snurley.
The fact of the matter is you can't compare Hillary Clinton to anyone when it comes to corruption or lying, because she's established a new standard.
It's like if somebody broke the poll ball record by jumping higher than the bars on the side allow the poll to go.
I do want to end though with some consumer advice.
This is always a miserable week for sports fans because you've got no sport really going on in the summer other than the WNBA, which really doesn't count, and Major League Baseball and Major League Baseball's on the All-Star break.
So ESPN, which just cannot help itself with its liberalness, has to put something on the air tonight.
Do you believe that ESPN is carrying a town meeting with Barack Obama on race?
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