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June 9, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 9, 2016, Thursday, Hour #2
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Yes, America's Anchorman is away, and this is your undocumented anchor man sitting in.
No supporting paperwork whatsoever.
Honored to be here direct from Ice Station EIB in far northern New Hampshire.
And uh Mr. Snerdley and Mike are controlling the show ruthlessly from the New York studios.
I don't know whether have they taken down all the sore horses and the Robocops and the hundred and eighty-seven car motorcade has departed from from the president's visit.
The president uh basically was uh in the next door building uh for an appearance with Jimmy Fallon on the tonight show that airs tonight.
And uh he he reiterated his thing that running for president, being president, it's a serious job, it's not a reality show job.
Uh w he said this on the tonight show.
He gave he gave an exclusive interview to Jimmy Fallon, saying that being president is a serious job and it's not a reality TV show, which is the main experience of some guys we could mention.
That was the upshot of what Barack Obama was saying.
So I'll be interested to see the full I actually I won't be interested at all to say it.
Uh in fact I won't be watching it at all.
I'll be watching the Mary Tyler Moore run on Channel 373.
Uh but if I was watching it, I would be interested to know what kind of uh tough questions that uh the president is exposing himself to.
Um as you know, uh Hilary Rodham Clinton is the first woman who is the first what did I say yesterday?
She's the first person who identifies as a woman to be the nominee for president of a major party.
And uh NPR's White House reporter, Tamara Keith, uh was uh grasped the significance of this immediately, and in a tough interrogation of Hillary Clinton said, Secretary, last night when you took stage in Sacramento, there was a woman standing next to me who was absolutely sobbing, and she said, You know, it's time.
It's past time.
People here and people just come up to you and they get tears in their eyes.
Do you feel the weight of what this means for people?
Unquote.
This was the question that uh Tamara Keith put to Hillary Rodham Clinton as she made history.
And uh unsurprisingly, uh Mrs Clinton uh the the question bit, the bit about people tearing up and sobbing and all the rest of it, um and uh I had that.
Well, actually when I met uh Hillary Rodham Clinton, I I found suddenly I found tears welling it was unbelievable.
I was like this woman in s in uh whether it was Sacramento.
I found tears welling up in my eyes.
Um and then I uh looked down and realised it was because she was crushing my genitalia.
Uh but at any rate, the the upshot of the question here, do you feel the weight of what this means for people?
And unsurprisingly, Hillary Clinton replied, I do.
That's tough questioning by NPR of the Democrat nominee.
Do you think do you think I actually uh saw people crying at a uh at a Trump rally uh when he was talking about uh Kate Steinley being murdered by an illegal immigrant?
Uh and I saw I saw people actually tearing up there.
And oddly enough, no one no one ever interviews Trump by saying, uh, you know, there was a woman standing next to me who was absolutely sobbing, and people here just come up to you and they get tears in their eyes.
Do you feel the weight of what this means for people?
No, he doesn't get he doesn't get questions like that.
So this is the field, this is the terrain on which these things on which these things play out.
Now there's another thing here.
There's another thing that's going on, and this isn't to do with uh whether you like Trump or you don't like Trump.
You can loathe Trump, and you still ought to be revolted by what is going on uh in uh American politics at the moment.
Deborah Saunders, uh if you'll forgive me playing the unassimilated foreigner, Deborah Saunders is one of the few American newspaper columnist I enjoy reading.
Uh and Deborah Saunders has a terrific column in which she talks to one of the victims, uh one of the guys who got beaten up at this Trump rally in San Jose.
My nose is broken.
I have bruises and scratches all over.
I got knocked in the head a lot, San Jose's Juan Hernandez 38 told me.
He suffered a mild concussion.
That's the price Hernandez paid for attending the infamous Donald Trump rally in San Jose last week.
For his trouble, Hernandez was called names, beaten and blooded.
And then for dessert, he got to hear politicians suggest it was the fault of his candidate that thugs beat him up.
When liberals are on the receiving end, this is known as blaming the victim.
Hernandez does not fit the stereotype of a Trump supporter.
He is gay with Mexican roots.
But now that he's pro-Trump, Hernandez confided, I have more people against me than I did when I came out as gay.
So he's not your typical angry white male.
He's a young man, Juan Hernandez, he's one of the members of Gay Mexicans for Trump, and he goes to a Trump rally and he gets a broken nose and a concussion because thugs hunt him down.
And the San Jose Mayor, Sam Licardo, a Hillary Clinton supporter, and the police chief, Edgardo Garcia, allow it to happen.
There's another story today in the San Jose Mercury News.
Again, this is fascinating.
This is the opening of the story in the San Jose Mercury News.
Two undercover police officers at a Donald Trump rally last week said they saw Trump supporters get punched, kicked, and pushed and running for their lives, according to a police report.
The plainclothes officers said they did not intervene for fear their own safety would be jeopardized as the estimated 400 protesters developed a mob mentality.
Now this was interesting to me.
Why are there under why are there no uh security uniformed officers keeping the peace at this event, but there are undercover officers at the Trump uh event.
Well, obviously there are undercover officers because they're there to say uh to to eavesdrop if anyone uh said something that might count as a hate speech uh or whatever.
They're they're there to report back to the police chief on what uh on what Trump supporters are saying.
And they decided not to intervene for fear of their own for fear their own safety would be jeopardized as the estimated 400 protesters developed a mob mentality.
So you have a an R a mob hunting down people who have uh done nothing except go to the political rally of the candidate of their choice.
Now then we have the Huffington Post uh which uh says today, liberal Jesse Benn, writing in the Huffington Post, says violence uh during Donald Trump rallies is quote logical.
In the face of media politicians and GOP primary voters normalizing Trump as a presidential candidate, there's an inherent value in forestalling Trump's normalization, says Jesse Benn in the Huffington Post.
Violent resistance accomplis accomplishes this.
So Jesse Ben, who is supposed to be, he's he's he's a writer, he's a man of words.
He's supposed to use words to persuade you to see his point of view.
But he says instead, screw that, screw that.
Uh there's no point making an argument about Trump.
Instead, let's get out there, get in his face, smash the faces and break, let's uh let's find some gay Mexican uh like this Hernandez guy and uh break his nose and give him a concussion, and that will prevent what he calls Trump's normalization, Trump's normalization.
The denormalization here is by the thug left and the uh left wing commentariat uh that supports them.
And essentially, as Deborah Saunders uh concludes in her in in her pace um essentially uh essentially licenses the violence and when you do find any of them she points out that when they do object when the the big the big spokespersons of the official left ever do object to the violence uh then it it's only because as LA mayor Eric Garcetti told the Los Angeles Times violent protest is quote a tactical
mistake so they don't object to breaking uh Mr. Hernandez's nose they don't ab uh uh uh uh object to breaking a gay Mexican nose because they shouldn't be doing that but only because it's uh it's a kind of PR error.
It might not look good if if it were known that the thug left are beating up gay Mexicans any more than it looks good uh when Bernie supporters are hunting down female New York Times reporters and calling them the C word in their tweets.
It's a it's a it's it's a perception thing.
The optics of it aren't good.
But they've got they've got no actual problem with violence in and of itself.
That's what this Huffington Post thing says here.
Now here's another one this is the editorial page editor the Detroit Free Press and this is from the newsbusters website Stephen Henderson, the editorial page editor of the Detroit Free Press is upset with charter school backers in Detroit who are, you know, Detroit by the way has an education system.
They had a school board chair a couple of years ago who was functionally illiterate and the Detroit education system produces uh produces about the same functional literacy rate as the Central African Republic does.
So that's how great the the official public school system is in Detroit.
So some people got together and they advocated for charter schools.
And now Stephen Henderson, editorial page editor the Detroit Free Press says we really ought to round up the lawmakers who took money to protect and perpetuate the failing charter school experiment in Detroit, sew them into burlap sacks with rabid animals and toss them into the Straits of Mackinac.
And you think well maybe he's just getting maybe he's just getting a little overheated there.
But he returns to the theme he he says what's happened with charter schools in Detroit is every bit deserving of an old school retributive response a sack, an animal, a lake no lover of actual democracy could weep at that outcome.
And I'm in favor, I'm a First Amendment absolutist here.
So I don't I don't mind if he wants to do that.
You can make the argument it's he it's it's obviously a little bit uh flowery and exaggerated and parodic and he's not actually handing out sacks.
It's harder to do that with Jesse Benn, who's the next point on the continuum when he's actually calling for violent resistance.
He's actually not just justifying it, but calling for violent resistance.
And it's even harder to do it after the violence has occurred, in part because of a highly political mayor and a highly political police chief failing to do their jobs and standing back as citizens are attacked for exercising their lawful right to participate in the political process.
And people are beaten up.
This guy got a broken nose.
He got a concussion.
And the mayor of Los Angeles was...
will merely regret that it was a tactical error because it looks bad on television it looks bad in television.
But this is the world the left is building for us it's got nothing to do with whether you're a Trump supporter, you're a Bush supporter, you're a Lindsey Graham supporter your party there are two parties on the ballot in November and uh and in this society the left wing press,
left wing political officials and left wing thugs are saying that you can no longer uh you can no longer go and peacefully attend uh the rallies of one of the two major political parties in this country you can't take your wife and children uh to the rally because it will be physically dangerous for them.
If you are elderly, it will be physically dangerous from for you.
You need to be pretty nimble.
If you've got a walker, you can't go to a rally of one of the two major political parties because you won't be able to run fast enough to escape the mob while the police of the Democrat run city are standing by.
In other words, these guys are saying they're all cool with the idea that this is now a one party state.
And if you think you'd like uh another choice, if you think you'd like it to be a two-party state, uh you can't do that uh without actually running the gauntlet of people who will give you a broken nose and a concussion.
This is disgusting.
And and and just look at it this way.
How many people have called on Hillary Clinton uh and how many people who are upset about Trump's remarks about this judge?
How many people are interviewing Hillary and Bernie and all the rest of the Democrat big shots about what is happening on the streets of American cities?
It's one party state.
They're saying it's a one party state.
If you pick it's not quite a one party, it's a one and a quarter party state.
If you pick someone who who's a who the kind of if you pick Lindsey Graham and we all like him and he's lovely and he's gonna lose and he'll give such a great concession speech, you can have him as the alternative on the ticket.
But basically they're saying uh in in uh in this in the United States in the year 2016, it is unsafe to attend the political gatherings of one of the two major parties in this country.
Shame on them, because this will not end well for anybody.
Mark Stein for Rush will take your call straight ahead.
Let's go to Samantha, somewhere in Southeast Michigan.
Samantha, you're live on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Great to have you with us.
What's on your mind today?
Hi, Mark, truly an honor to talk with you.
Um I have what I think is the simple question, but I really need your help.
Um why do members of the media, and by that I mean writers and pundits for well-known influential news organizations who have been so colossally wrong about this election and Trump in particular, still have jobs.
Why are they still sought after?
And I offer a Bill Crystal as exhibit A through Z. Yeah, Bill Bill, I I like Bill Crystal personally.
Uh he's a very pleasant and agreeable chap, but he's been completely wrong on all of this.
He's not unusual.
Most people thought Trump wouldn't last the summer, that they they thought he was a six-week bubble.
Then they thought uh that uh the Bush had all the money and would outspend him and he couldn't compete with the Bush money.
Then they thought he w he he'd be dead from the moment people uh started uh voting because they didn't have ground game.
These people have been these people have been wrong.
And and in fairness to Bill Crystal, Samantha, he's been wrong about some more important things too.
He welcomed the Arab Spring, uh, which has left us with the complete implosion of Syria and Libya and has loosed millions of refugees upon the world and uh put a military dictator, led to the Muslim Brotherhood taking over in uh in in Egypt, he was wrong on that.
He thought it was a genuine flowering of uh uh uh uh of of Western style democracy in the region, and that they're important things to get wrong.
And the reason that the reason people still have jobs is because I think these jobs are like can wholly cut off from the real world now.
I think it's if you take these magazines and think tanks and the donors, it's a little circular world where people fund them to say things they want to read and they read it back in the magazine and they think that means the message is getting out, so they fund them again, and then they read it again and they think the message is getting out, so then they give them more money.
It's a completely circular world.
And uh and and the thing the only thing I would say, Samantha, and uh I'll talk about this a bit late bit later, is when you have been that wrong as the Republican uh th the pundit class was, it ought to occasion a certain modesty uh that you that you you you ought to think twice before then say well I was I've been wrong about everything for the last year uh so now I'm gonna run David French for president.
You shouldn't be thinking like that you ought to step back.
You ought to say, well where how did I come to misread I claim to represent this party this philosophy to the nation and I've been doing it for decades.
How how does it come that I don't know my own party?
And that's the question that people like Bill Kristol should really be asking themselves.
Thanks for your call, Samantha.
More straight ahead.
Yeah, I'm getting a lot of email from Bernie supporters accusing me of being snowflake-a-phobic, so I'll have to watch that.
It's a great pleasure to have with us now one half of the filmmaking team of Anne McElhenney and Phileam McAleer.
They're currently working on a feature film about America's biggest serial killer, and that is the abortionist Kermit Gosnell.
And you may not think of him as America's biggest serial killer, but that is a fact.
And once you put it like that, you wonder why a lot of Hollywood studios didn't rush to make that story.
But instead it took Phileam to go ahead and make that story.
He also mounted a play in Los Angeles last year, I think it was, about Ferguson, Missouri, and he got actually...
quite a starry cast for that uh who signed up for it including the guy I think who played young Frank Sinatra in the big Frank Sinatra tele biopic uh back in the nineties and uh they were all a bit stunned to discover when Falim started directing them on stage that the play didn't take quite the uh standard black lives matter line on what had happened in Ferguson but his latest thing is called Clinton emails on film and it opens today.
Faleen, great to have you on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
And tell us what this new film is about.
Well, I'm sure, Mark, I'm sure all your listeners know that Clinton staff are currently being deposed under oath in Washington.
Cheryl knows whom, Abaddon, they're all going to come up in the next month.
These depositions are being filmed.
But in a kind of unprecedented bling last week, the judge said he was going to suppress the film.
films uh in case they were used against Hillary Clinton Jr.
Actually so go ahead yeah so they've recorded these depositions and they're not releasing them and you've decided in effect to take the transcripts and uh dramatize them basically use Cheryl Mills's deposition as a as a shooting script.
Yeah yeah so we've we've cut it down to about half an hour of her her greatest hits um and we've got professional Hollywood actors and just filmed in Hollywood in in the heart of the beast and uh it looks really good.
We posted it this morning on Clinton ELS on film dot com.
We've had an enormous response uh people can really see the Clintonian evasions you you know more about Clinton props than than many of us Mark uh you've known known them a long time but you know they they have these staff that are just like them and recent evasions during the deposition uh Charles Mills said the words I don't know or I don't recall 189 times.
Right, right.
And that comes from the boss.
Hillary's been doing that since the 90s.
Try to remember as the prosecutors tried to get her to do.
From your point of view, though, this is gripping stuff because in the last few years, in the West End in London, the David Frost, Richard Nixon transcripts were dramatized and were...
were a big hit play and um the Tony Blair Iraq war inquiry was dramatized and made a great and people think oh th wait a minute, this doesn't sound much of a story.
He's he's taking these uh he's taking this this written testimony and he's getting actors to read it.
But it isn't in this it is actually in fact gripping when you when you see it done like that, isn't it?
It's unbelievably gripping because actually the funny when we did first and uh I noticed in the theater, people were leaning forward to hear what people were saying because they knew that every word was an actual verbatim piece of testimony from a live person.
So he didn't like a word.
It's actually more compelling when you go verbatim rather than this kind of based on a true story and add your own ground.
You know, the truth is often much stranger than fiction and very much stranger when when you're talking about politics.
And and yeah, you're right.
It's it's quite big in Britain.
In fact, the one I remember most is the Bloody Sunday inquiry.
Right.
Uh was w was used as a uh as a basis for a West End play ran for months.
Right, right, right.
And and and uh as you say, when they do this based on a true story, they kind of hollywoodize it and they put they put in all this uh kind of soft focus emotive blabber.
And actually often the the hard, cruel words that ordinary people use when they're actually uh going at it across a courtroom or whatever, are actually far more gripping than what a professional screenwriter puts in their mouth.
Yeah, so when I mean uh people are under oath, they're under pressure, and very often they want to tell the truth or they want to lie, and and there's someone if they're lying to someone they're destined to take the truth out of them.
It's very, very compelling.
People can see it, we've had a great response to it.
That we just posted the first film this morning, Clinton Emails on film.com.
But we want to make more of them.
There's five more depositions coming up to Mahabad and bring Fifth Amendment, uh Brian uh taking the fifth Pagliano.
Uh and perhaps if we if enough evidence emerges, Hillary herself.
But don't forget, all these videos are being prepared to be sealed till after the election.
So we are going to bring all these videos.
We're gonna turn them around.
Cheryl Mills only give evidence last week.
We got a script together, got the actors together, we got a crew together the film in a week.
So we need we need more people to we need to make more films.
So you're doing, which appears to be the uh the theme of the sh the the the week, you're pushing back against the judge.
A judge has said uh we're gonna c we're gonna cover up and protect these film transcripts of the these films of the deposition, and you said we're gonna film them anyway.
So there's gonna be films out there.
And just say again uh the the the website where people can see the first of these films, Philemon.
Uh well it's Clinton Emails on Film dot com.
We're crowdfunding, uh it's a public funded uh process.
So people want to help to make more films, they could donate.
Uh but we really wanted to go to Clinton Emoils on Film dot com to watch.
Right.
Uh to vote by watching and say this is not enough.
I mean, you know you've had experience with the American justice system, Mark, and uh.
These judges are.
And I should I should I should say uh b by the way, Philem, that I'm uh enormously grateful to you and Anne.
As you can hear, uh Felim is also an immigrant to this uh Great Land, my fellow Irishman, as I like to think of him.
And uh he and Anne flew in from uh Los Angeles for my trial in the uh District of Columbia uh for for a rather dreary hearing in the District of Columbia uh latrine of appeals.
And what I like about Felim's attitude is he was a little thirsty after his long flight, and he went to the opposing council's table, took their entire jug of water and uh and drank it himself uh before counsel walked in.
So uh I like the way you you're you don't have a great uh deference uh towards the uh expanding powers of the judiciary in this country, Philem.
No, and I think that's part that's why we're making these films.
Uh you know, uh look this is the you know, justice needs to be seen and heard.
Um people want to help make these films go go to Clinton emails on film.com, they can watch the film, donate maybe make it happen.
But but no, that that's that's what it's about.
We need to need to stop uh listening to this nonsense and and bowing down and and really taking this anymore.
Um this is a way to get the truth out there.
And the truth is the truth And it's not partisan and it can't be used against you.
It it it can only be used to to illuminate, and that's what we're trying to do.
Right.
And and you're and that's why this project is so valuable, because you're not putting a spin on it.
Uh you're not uh you you you're not changing the words, shaping the words, you're not doing a Katie Couric and editing the uh interviewees into incoherence.
You have taken the transcripts and uh the judge has said no people cannot see the depositions, and you've seen it said nuts to that.
These are these are basically the five people closest to Hillary during her tenure at the State Department.
So it's as ni it's it's I was telling a friend about it, and he said, This is the film that Hilly Hillary and her cronies don't want you to see.
I mean, uh uh you know George R. Well, Mark and I think we both may have agreed and disagreements with him, but he once said journalism is something that somebody somewhere doesn't want published.
And this is classic doesn't want published, so this is classic journalism, I think.
No, and you're absolutely right.
You're absolutely right, and uh and the the sad thing is that there you you live in the belly of the beast, as you put it, and there are not a lot of people doing this kind of thing.
There were there aren't people Ferguson well for start the the the Ferguson play was a great thing because it's great to see topical things.
Uh it's it's it's it's when something is around, what you want is to get it on stage, get it on film as soon as you can, which is what you did with Ferguson.
How's the Kermit Gosnall film coming?
It is ninety-nine percent finished.
Uh we have the the film is uh wrapped, we have the sign mix, everything.
We are now we have a special song commissioned for it by uh by a great artist who we can't just reveal right now and then we have the credits to finish and then it's ready to go.
We have a outbook distributors at the moment uh trying to entice distributors to to deal with it.
Um so that's a process.
Um let's see how that goes.
But it's we we showed it recently to someone, um uh another radio host who won't be him, and he was crying at the end of it.
Uh it's a wonderful movie, actually.
It's it's it's not it's not gory.
It's it's it's compelling actually because and it's funny, it is you know, dramatized it a little, but you're right.
The most compelling bit the pe bit that people remember when they tell us about it, we go, that's an actual true story.
That happened.
And the truth the truth is very compelling.
And and it's and it's uh it's shocking, but uh as shocking is the way the broader media and the broader culture turn away from stories like this.
And that is why what you do is is uh so important.
Um and at uh at a time when Hillary and the media, the whole thing is just to tamp this story down.
Uh uh d don't talk, don't put out the uh video depositions, keep it all quiet, keep it all quiet, nothing to see, there's nothing to look at.
You've given us something to look at, uh Philippe.
So that's Clinton emails on film dot com.
And if they want to actually help fund uh future uh editions of this, then they can go to Indiegogo.com and it I think it's uh projects Clinton emails on film, but at indigo.com is where you've been crowdfunding this.
Yeah.
Okay, where's that?
Doing this actually.
I mean, it's funny, it's work, but it's a real pleasure telling the truth.
And it's so much easier telling the truth, too, I always think.
Uh yeah, and you know.
That's a very good way of putting it, actually.
You don't need so many rewrite guys when you're just telling the truth.
That's a very good way of putting it.
That's uh that's uh that's a great way of putting it.
You do you do Sterling work uh Felim, and uh uh and this this is a a brilliant format uh and I hope it gets uh uh a lot of play.
That's Clinton emails on film dot com.
And uh if I can persuade them to do the Michael Mann uhlob warming hockey stick deposition uh on film, and then the judge decides to to cover that up.
I hope you'll come and make a dramatization of that.
You can uh you find the appropriate uh what's it called Ceph.
Why do you think we were in the court that day?
Researching.
Um no, we have w we want to actually take this for a betum idea and make it uh you know a national thing in America it's more the British thing at the moment.
But there are so many grip courtes so many grip courtroom dramas that are not being brought to the public.
Uh that we think well why wouldn't it?
Why wouldn't it be for us in Baltimore trials in Baltimore that have just melted or murdered murder and all cops are just being uh fine not guilty left right etc.
So we want to take this verbatim idea and bring it to a wider audience because people deserve the proof.
Yeah that's a great that's a great way of putting it verbatim films presents.
So with luck this will be a whole new genre and maybe they should have a whole new Academy Awards category for it.
Great to talk with you, Phileam, and I will see you in court, no doubt, at some time or other.
Clinton emails on film.com.
As you can tell, he is an immigrant to this great land as I am.
He came from Dublin's Fair City, as Anne McElhenney did, and they do the stuff, they do the jobs Americans won't do.
Like making a film on this monster, Kermit Gosnell, like doing a play on Ferguson, and now doing these trial deposition transcripts with actors enacting the words, reenacting the testimony of Cheryl Mills and...
Hillary's other aides uh check it out Clintonemails.com Clinton emails on film dot com uh and if you like it there's some few there's a few more of them to come and if you go to Indiegogo Indigogo.com uh you can chip in to help keep this series going and maybe they'll get to make the big one with Madame Mao herself if she can ever be persuaded to testify.
Mark Stein for Rush.
More straight ahead.
Mark Stein in for Rush.
That website, by the way, to see the first of these Clinton emails on film, that's clintonemailsonfilm.com.
And Faleem McAuliffe is a very enterprising chap who is basically doing what more conservatives and Republicans should be doing.
Instead of just whining, instead of just whining about the lousy Hollywood doesn't do anything about us, he's actually getting in there, getting in the game and producing alternatives.
And so the best way to ensure that you can see some alternative views of America in the popular culture, in film and theatre and other things, is actually to support guys like Faleem.
And in this case, he's doing a great public service too because...
Hillary Clinton is sweeping this under the rug.
The the interesting thing is she's not just the first person to identify as a woman who's the major presidential nominee.
She's also the first major presidential under nominee to be under criminal investigation by the FBI uh while she's running for president.
And it looks increasingly as if the FBI will find it hard will find it extremely hard not to find some kind of criminal culpability in what Hillary Clinton has done.
And that will mean that this thing sits on the desk of the Attorney General and the Attorney General of the United States will then have to make a decision about whether to announce the prosecution of the Democrat nominee for president.
And the likelihood of that happening in an in an ever more corrupt republic strikes me as very slim.
And so this may be the closest you ever get actually to seeing the trial of the century.
This is Cheryl Mills, Humor Aberdeen, uh all the people close to Hillary Clinton's inner circle dramatizations of their actual testimony and you can see that at Clinton Emailsonfilm.com.
Mark Stein on Rush lots more still to come Mark Stein in for Rush, the Ninth Circus Court of Appeals that's the one in San Francisco has just announced that there is no constitutional right to carry a concealed handgun.
By a vote of seven to four, the Ninth Circus Court of Appeals upheld a California law that requires gun owners to show a good reason before they can get a license to carry a concealed handgun.
So they're not just supporting this law, but they're saying that there is no constitutional right to concealed carry, which is you know a lot of other uh uh US states have.
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