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May 4, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 4, 2016, Wednesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Hey, folks, how are you?
You know, I'm old enough.
I'm old enough to remember when people said, go ahead, go ahead and vote for Bill Clinton.
Things can't get any worse.
You go ahead and vote for Bill Clinton.
Let's show everybody how rotten the Democrats are.
You elect Bill, go ahead and vote for him.
You vote for Clinton, we'll just, we'll finally demonstrate to the people what a bunch of rot guts the Democrats are.
Now, the people that used to say that were average ordinary voters.
Today, it's the Republican establishment saying it.
And it seems like every election, there's somebody out there.
Go ahead, you vote for the Clintons.
And every time we do it, it's supposed to demonstrate to the people how rotten and horrible the country becomes when the Democrats run it.
I've been doing this for 27 years, and that refrain has been heard in every election.
And could we say here that with the election of Obama and after two terms of Bill Clinton, that the country's not getting the message on how bad the Democrats running the country?
Some of the country is, obviously, but they keep getting elected.
Anyway, folks, great to have you here.
We're going to do a major, major dissection today.
I know everybody is bursting with all kinds of questions.
Ted Cruz getting out last night was a shock to a lot of people.
They weren't expecting it.
Apparently, the decision was made by Senator Cruz long before Trump came up with his Lee Harvey Oswald comment.
I'm not saying it's not a factor.
Don't misunderstand here.
This is going to be one of those programs.
You're going to want to spend the entire three hours here with us to get it.
It's just loaded, and there's a whole lot of things that I want to say and get into.
And I don't want to have to try to pack it all here into this opening segment.
You know, I got so many emails.
You know, you're going to have the biggest audience maybe you've ever had tomorrow.
And when people tell you that, oh, wow, okay, you better pack it all in in the first segment.
I'm not even going to try to do that this time.
Can't be done.
I don't want to do it in bullet point or headline fashion.
Plus, I'm curious to know what some of you think happened, what went wrong, if you think it did go wrong, why you're happy if you are, what you think the future holds.
And how many of you really never thought that Trump was going to get the nomination, but you didn't really work against it.
You're kind of fascinated by it, but you really didn't think this day was going to come.
And then you watched Ted Cruz drop out last night and you're shocked and you're stunned and you can't believe it because somewhere in the back of your mind all along has been this thought.
It may be comforting to some, others may be just a thought that really, Trump's not going to really do this.
When you get to the end of this, it isn't going to be Trump, and now it is.
I mean, I think the number, the types of reactions out there are infinite.
And the attitudes about the future are multifaceted as well.
We're going to explore here what happened, why it happened, what went wrong, where do we go from here?
What does this all mean?
But again, I can't do this in one show.
Can't do it in the opening segment, certainly.
And this is not a trick or a hook to get you to listen to all three hours because you do anyway, because it's a good show.
I just, I don't want anybody laboring under the false impression that whatever I say here in the opening segment is it.
Because it isn't going to be.
I'm sure that those of you who get through today on the phones are going to inspire things that I think and realize that I haven't even realized yet, which is really what makes a great caller.
By the way, phone number 800-282-2882.
I didn't know Cruz was going to drop out.
I had no inside advance information.
I read Byron York today, who did a little bit of a post-mortem, what went wrong.
And the basic element is that Cruz just lost too many elections prior to Indiana, that he chose to sit out too many states, like New Hampshire, didn't put full force efforts as opposed to Trump, which just win every state, just blanket, just shotgun the country, win every state, appeared to be competing in every state.
That created momentum, constant media presence.
It doesn't even count the media loving putting Trump on, but it's that Trump forced his way into this.
He forced the media coverage, even though the media loved covering him.
Too many states that Trump, that Cruz set out in that Northeastern sweep just a couple of weeks ago, that Trump won every county in five states.
Byron York's opinion, you just can't lose like that and expect to go to the next state and sweep it.
It's unreal expectations.
People want to vote for winners.
And just, you know, losing is one thing, and landslide losses are another thing.
Even if it is Northeastern, you're not expected to do well.
Even if it is New York, where you're not expected to do it, people don't want to vote for somebody is not expected to do well someplaces.
They want to vote for somebody they think is going to win.
And that's just one theory.
I'm just sharing it with you.
York also does have some insider information.
This is that Cruz had made his decision to get out even before Tuesday morning.
And that you could, if you knew that Cruz was going to get out and you listen to everything that Cruz said and did on Tuesday, and it makes total sense.
He unloads on Fox News, unloads on Ailes, unloads on Murdoch, unloads on Trump, just gets it all off of his chest.
And then here comes Trump on Fox and Friends with the Lee Harvey Oswald comment.
Might have been the icing on the cake, but Byron York's point is that the decision had been made long before that.
I'm watching Cruz last night with his acceptance, or his acceptance, his exit speech.
And as is the usual case, the speeches that people give when they leave a campaign are often the best that you've heard during a campaign.
Certainly was true of Cruz's.
And I was a little sad, and I was melancholy over it.
And then I got a text.
I got a text from somebody who I thought was my friend.
I got a text from somebody I thought knew me.
And the text said, this is after the Cruz speech was concluded.
Thank God Cruz is done.
Couldn't be happier.
Listening to his sap makes me sick.
I wanted to write back, and I didn't know I made you sick.
But I didn't.
I didn't reply to it.
I thought, no, no, no, don't do it here in the emotional heat of the moment.
But it just struck me the hatred for Cruz and how irrational it was all the way from the Republican establishment.
There are reasons for it.
I mean, there are reasons for people to be opposed to Cruz and the Republican establishment.
But this raw hatred, I think, has a message and implication for people way beyond Ted Cruz.
Go into examination of why such focused, why such intense hate.
People don't even know him.
Why?
And it's more than just Cruz.
It's more than just whatever people think his personality is.
We'll get into that as the program unfolds today.
The establishment got their wish.
They didn't want Cruz.
I mean, half of them did and half of them didn't.
You know, I made a point earlier in the week in explaining how I, depending on how the establishment lines up, I said they're looking at Cruz.
And the reason I'm bringing this is a New York Post column today by somebody whose name I can't remember right.
It makes the exact same point.
And it's this, that Cruz is going to be around forever and the establishment wants him vanquished forever.
But Trump is an ephemeral.
He's one in a million.
There's not going to be another Trump that either party is going to have to deal with.
Trump comes out of nowhere.
Stop and think of what's happened here.
A genuine real outsider with no polling unit and no real fundraising and no campaign management, no speech writing, has come to just blow out the Republican Party.
And of course, there's postmortems of the Republican Party today, too.
And one of the postmortems, Trump's come along and killed a Republican.
Trump didn't kill the Republican Party.
The Republican Party did itself in, which is why Trump was able to come in and do what he did.
But the point about Cruz and the reason the establishment really, one of two things they wanted, either a humiliating loss in the primaries or a humiliating loss for the White House.
They want Cruz to lose so badly that he will never even try this again, nor will anybody else who thinks what Cruz thinks try it again.
Do not doubt me on this.
They are so unalterably opposed to conservatism that, and Cruz embodies conservatism and can explain it, can articulate it, makes him a really reviled figure in all of Washington and much of Hollywood and much of the media that runs and controls pop culture.
It's a huge threat.
So the more humiliating the loss, the happier they are because they think it vanquishes Cruz and anybody else that might be thinking of trying what he tried.
They're less concerned about the effect of Trump because they don't think there's another, not under Trump out there.
So once Trump's done and done, whatever long it takes, four years, eight years, or gets defeated, that they don't have to deal with Trump again.
But there's all kinds of people that might try being Ted Cruz Jr. again or at least try to get elected with conservatism.
So that's why the pile on.
That's why the glee, that's why the happiness, irrational happiness over Ted Cruz's defeat.
And it was not hard to predict that that was going to happen either.
And pretty much everything has happened here.
I've foreseen it and given voice to the possibilities throughout the course of the past six or seven months.
So let me take a brief time.
We're going to come back with some audio sound bites of Cruz's speech last night as he was leaving, and we'll get into some of the things I've assembled today in my stack of stuff.
Various people reacting to what it means, their theories and so forth, which of course I will react to.
And we'll have your phone calls as part of the mix as well.
So hang in and buckle up, folks.
Now two hours and 43 minutes of broadcast excellence remaining.
Straight ahead.
Do not go away.
Now hold your horses, Trump supporters.
Hold your horses when I say we'll examine what went wrong.
Come on.
You know exactly what I'm talking about from the standpoint of Cruz supporters.
They're the ones trying to figure out what went wrong today.
They are looking for explanations, and I'm sure they have their own at the same time.
But we'll get into all of that.
Let me give you one little thing that my instinctive feeling right now is that Trump is going to win, beat Hillary badly, that it could be landslide proportions.
I still don't think people understand why Trump won this.
I don't think they understand at all the reason people support Trump.
And the deeper people are entrenched in politics and the more they are accustomed to the templates and the handbooks and the theories and the playbooks, the less they're going to understand it.
The more they try to plug Donald Trump and his campaign and his personality into the professional politician candidate playbook that they use, the farther and farther from the truth they are going to get.
I've tried to help during the course of this entire campaign.
I've gone to great lengths to try to explain to people what it is about Trump, why he has his supporters, why they support him, and what you'd have to do to separate them from Trump.
Basically, you can't.
That's the bottom line.
There's nothing any professional politics.
Everybody that thought they knew how to beat a candidate threw everything they had at Trump.
I mean, the negative ads that they ran against him, these never Trump guys in their packs in all these states, Indiana alone, the amount of money spent on negative ads against Trump, and it didn't work.
And in their world, negative ads always work.
So they're out there scratching their heads today.
You've got never-Trump people saying, I said I was never going to vote for Trump, and I'm never going to vote for Trump, and I mean it.
You've got some people thinking about looking for a third-party candidate.
Others, it's a matter of honor.
It's a matter of principle to never vote for Trump.
But they're caught between that and Hillary Clinton becoming president.
We're back to, well, let's let Hillary win until people will find out how bad it is.
I'm tired of that.
We already know how bad it is.
We know how bad it is with Hillary.
We know how bad it is with Bill Clinton.
We know how bad it is with Barack Hussein.
Oh, we know how bad it is with the American left.
We don't need any more instruction.
We don't need any more lessons.
And by the way, leaving it to the American people to figure out hasn't worked out well either, has it?
Somebody's going to have to tell them how bad it is.
I mean, they instinctively know things are not great, but look at the millennials.
My point is, the millennials, they think the country's seen its best days.
They don't blame the Democrats for it because nobody tells them.
Nobody explains to them that the reason they are in great suffering and have, in their own minds, no future, is because the Democrat Party left-wing policies.
But nobody tells them that.
So they are left to assume that America is flawed.
America was flawed from its founding and all these flaws and all this racism, bigotry, self-hatred.
Oh, it's coming to the fore now.
And America's caught up with itself.
And this is sadly what some of these people think.
So a guy comes along and tell them to make America great, identifies problems and then proposes solutions and doesn't hold back.
It's not hard to figure any of this out.
And against a message like Trump's, if your counter message is, I'm the most conservative guy running, that's not, that's not, even if you are, and even if you're good at it, it's not going to make a dent because none of this is about ideology right now.
That's why everybody's talking about populism having overtaken conservatism.
That hasn't happened, but at this moment in time, it looks like it.
In this particular set of circumstances, it looks like it.
But any number of things, there are 17 people that tried.
And Hillary Clinton is next up, and we shall see.
Let's go to the Cruz speech.
We have just a couple of soundbites here.
This is Cruz last night in Indianapolis.
All right.
I don't know what to do about this.
Right.
Didn't start again.
It's audio soundbite number eight.
I guess we don't have any sound bites here today, folks.
Nobody can find what we're looking for, or our computer isn't working, or some such thing.
So let me, instead of that, I can tell you what Cruz said.
He said, together we left it all on the field in Indiana, and people were yelling.
We gave it everything we've got, but the voters chose another path.
And so with a heavy heart, but with boundless optimism for the long-term future of our nation, we are suspending our campaign.
And the audience was shocked.
They had no idea.
There were just a very few insiders who had any idea that Cruz was getting out last night.
But he said, hear me now.
I'm not suspending our fight for liberty.
Here comes the applause again.
I'm not suspending our fight to defend the Constitution, to defend the Judeo-Christian values that built America.
Our movement will continue.
And I give you my word that I will continue this fight with all of my strength and all of my ability.
The audience is hooping and hollering.
He said, we will continue to fight next week and next month and next year.
And together we will continue as long as God grants us the strength to fight on.
For one thing remains as true today as it was 40 years ago in Kansas City in this fight for the long-term future of America.
There's no substitute for victory.
There's no substitute for the American that teach, each and every one of us loves with all of our heart, that we believe in with all of our heart, and that together we will restore as a shining city on the hill for every generation.
And that's when I got the text from the guy that I thought was my friend that said, thank God Cruz is done.
Couldn't be happier.
Listening to his sap makes me sick.
I was so frost.
I can't tell you how frosted I was.
I was literally, you could have seen steam coming out of my ears.
What was that?
Oh, we have soundbites now.
Now that we don't have any cruise soundbites, we have soundbites.
All right, well, let's see if number nine, where number 10 works.
This is wanted to play these after the first two cruise soundbites.
Here's Ronald Reagan, August 20th, 1976.
Sure, there's a disappointment in what happened, but the cause goes on.
And don't get cynical.
Don't get cynical because look at yourselves and what you were willing to do and recognize that there are millions and millions of Americans out there that want what you want, that want it to be that way, that want it to be a shining city on a hill.
1976, Kansas City.
Now, the reason I chose that soundbite to play is because it's almost identical circumstance.
It was 76.
Reagan was much more popular than General Ford.
the one thing different than today for the Reagan, but he just couldn't get past the establishment in 1976.
And his supporters were so depressed and so down in the dumps.
I mean, it was thought to be the end of the world.
There was so much invested in Reagan.
It was just four years later, after four years of Jimmy Carter, that it all ended up working out for the better.
Boston Globe headline, RIP, GOP.
Donald Trump has done more than win the Republican nomination.
He has shattered the modern Republican Party.
And this is what a lot of drive-bys think.
This is what a lot of leftists and Democrats, maybe even some Republican establishment people think this.
Because there are a lot of headlines like this out there today.
And they're glib and they're hip and they're running around and they're applauding and they're chuckling and they're laughing and they're thinking that Republican Party is finished and it is over.
And the fact of the matter is they're two years behind.
The Republican Party that everybody has known and expected to be around hasn't existed in two years, maybe four.
And that's why Trump can be Trump.
That's why Trump, there's nobody in this party that Republican voters can coalesce around and they had a chance at 17 people.
I can go through the names if you want.
Big names, Scott Walker, Bobby Jindal.
You had Jeb Bush.
You had Marco Rubio.
You had all kinds of classic Republicans of all stripes.
You had the Republican establishment running the show.
They clearly wanted their guy in there.
But you can't, a party cannot expect, and this is the great irony here.
They said the Republican Party's dead.
The Republican Party in 2010 and 2014 shellacked the Democrat Party in those midterm elections.
Those are not insignificant.
They're very important.
Because of those midterm elections, the Republicans own 31 state houses, 31 governorships.
The Republicans control the legislatures in over 30 states in this country.
The Republicans swept over 1,000 seats from the Democrats in 2010 and 2014.
If you go down to state level and even local level, major city mayorships and so forth, mayoralties.
And what do we have to show for it in Washington?
And a big, fat zero.
Absolutely nothing.
Ted Cruz is looking at this, and he's seeing a sizable conservative voter bloc.
That's what he saw.
He's seeing the Tea Party.
He's seeing these massive midterm elections.
Granted, it's a different turnout than during a presidential year.
But it is what it is.
You still deal with it.
It's the reality of the day.
Cruz is seeing a vibrant conservative media.
He's seeing what he believes to be a vibrant conservative movement out there.
And he figures that there's an opportunity here to go for the White House.
Starts making plans to do so.
And as part of those plans, you know, stands up to Mitch McConnell and starts broadcasting, publicly saying what goes on behind closed doors in the Senate, lifts the veil, angers those people, angers some people in the House.
That 2013 government shutdown, in the establishment, both parties did just live it.
They hate Cruz for that alone.
But he did everything he could to ignite what he thought was that massive block of voters that swept Republicans into power in 2010 and 2014.
Where did it go?
Where did those voters go?
Why did they not coalesce around a Republican?
The reason is the Republican Party did not act on that sweeping, those two sweeping landslides in Washington.
There was literally no ground gained as a result.
There was nothing to show for it.
So Cruz decides that he's going to run trying to get that block of voters because it's obviously huge.
But then here came, I'm sure for Cruz, the surprise of all surprises.
Half the conservative media, may as well have been Republican establishment, came out against him, hated his guts.
And then you've got the establishment itself doing their best to undermine him and so forth.
And they realize, wait a minute, these guys would rather I get creamed than win the White House.
And it all began to come together with people realizing things that they thought were not true that actually started making it obvious they were true in the uphill climb.
Then you have Trump entering the race, of course, last June, which changes the dynamic of all of this.
But the point is, Trump didn't kill the Republican Party.
Now, the GOP would like to run around thinking that somebody else did it, that they didn't do it to themselves, but they did.
You cannot have two such massive landslide wins in 2010, 2014, and have nothing to show for it and expect it's going to continue.
Expect the voters are going to keep coming out when you lie to them during campaigns and promise that you're going to be serious about repealing Obamacare.
You're going to be serious about reducing spending.
And then every year there's a new budget and Obama gets more than he wants.
And so people have had their fill.
And Cruz couldn't break out of the noise that he was, in fact, because he's elected, was in fact part of the establishment.
I have no doubt that there's a lot of surprise in the Cruz campaign.
There's a lot of surprise probably within the conservative movement here because it was thought that it was unified.
It was thought that there was a lot of people with a lot of things in common, particularly ideological things in common, smaller government, lower tax, you know, the entire list of ideological definitions of conservatism, including the social issues and morality.
And it got fractured and it got split apart and so that not one Republican out of 17 could get nominated by other Republicans in a presidential primary.
And how many people did you hear when Trump got in the race and it was all becoming obvious that this was being turned upside down?
All these people, oh my God, this is horrible.
We've got the best fuel candidates we've ever had.
We've got the best bench we've ever had.
And well, maybe it wasn't for whatever reasons.
Associated Press, they're happy today, obviously.
As Trump wins, Clinton exploring how to win over Republicans.
This story, this is why I think stories like this indicate just how far in the sand a bunch of leftists have their heads right now, or maybe in other places.
With Donald Trump all but clinching the Republican nomination for president, Hillary Clinton's beginning to explore ways to woo Republicans turned off by the brash billionaire.
The Democrat frontrunners campaign believes that Trump's historically high, unfavorable ratings and his penchant for controversy may be enough to persuade a slice of Republican voters to get behind her bid in much the same way so-called Reagan Democrats sided with Reagan in the 1980s.
Now, you can't blame Hillary for thinking this, and you can't blame the AP because there's all kinds of Republicans out there saying that they're going to do just that.
They've been proudly saying it for months now.
They're proudly saying it last night.
Yes, they have honor.
They have a deep sense of morality and commitment, and they are never Trumpers.
They were not big for Cruz either.
Don't buy into that.
And they, they are going to go Hillary Clinton because everything else is just unacceptable to them.
And yet she is.
Now, you read this story, you would never know that Hillary Clinton is still fighting for her party's nomination, and she lost another state.
You know, whoever did this, and it might have been Byron York that I've read so much.
Back to the Cruz problem for a moment.
Get to Indiana, big plans in Indiana.
But the problem is he didn't win much before Indiana.
Here's a good question people want to address.
How do you go from a landslide win in Wisconsin that takes out pretty much everybody except one other guy, Kasich, who's getting out today at 5 o'clock, by the way?
How do you go from a landslide win in Wisconsin to a landslide loss in Indiana?
When this is something keep important, when you answer this question, you consider it.
After your landslide win in Wisconsin, you end up being, as far as everybody's concerned, the only possible person now that can stop Trump.
You are it for the never Trumpers.
You are it for whoever.
And how many there are people who do not want Donald Trump?
You are it.
You are getting all the media attention as that one person who can stop Donald Trump.
You, Ted Cruz, are getting all of the attention.
All the interest is focused on you.
How in the world do you go from landslide victory in Wisconsin to what happened in Indiana with added media to him?
Now, the people asking that question are they answering it themselves.
Well, Cruz couldn't withstand the media.
The more people got to know Cruz, the more they hated him.
Bohunk.
Well, maybe not Bohunk.
That whole hate Cruz business is a that has ramifications for all of conservatism, folks, because not all of that is aimed at Cruz specific.
A lot of people want to think it is, but it isn't.
But the theory is this.
Stick with me here.
Cruz decides northeastern states like New York and the five two weeks ago that Trump won every county.
You know, I don't have a chance.
I'm not even going to seriously compete there.
Like, I didn't compete in New Hampshire.
And his strategy was to pick these states, like these evangelical states in the South.
Pick those states.
He's just going to swamp everything, sweep away everything, walk away with everything, and do it that way.
Meanwhile, Trump's out there trying to win every state.
So the way it manifests itself is you get to Indiana.
You didn't arrive in a vacuum.
You arrived having lost five landslides.
And whatever elections you lost before that, all you've got on your record is winning in Wisconsin.
That's a long time ago.
So people want to vote for winners.
There's this thing called momentum, whether the media promotes it or not.
How do you go from five landslide losses, third place?
Second place, Ben, third place.
How do you go from that to expecting to win big anywhere, Indiana, anywhere?
Well, let's apply that to Hillary Clinton.
The AP won't do it.
The only reason Hillary Clinton's going to win is because the Democrats have rigged that system for her according to their rules where she's going to get all the delegates or however many she needs to win this, no matter what.
The election returns in every Democrat primary are.
Now, the Democrats are making the same mistake here that some may have made in the Cruz campaign.
They think that Hillary can go ahead and lose these states, lose every state.
She's losing more than she wins.
And if you follow the news, it's clear Bernie Sanders is winning.
It seems like every primary the past month.
And accompanying every Bernie Sanders victory story is the fact that he won nothing.
Hillary gets the delegates.
So there's just as many, or proportionately just as many agitated Democrats.
You add up people supporting Bernie Sanders, people supporting Donald Trump, and the people that supported Ted Cruz.
You add up those voters, and if they all vote to get Hillary Clinton doesn't have a prayer.
I don't care about the Electoral College.
I don't care about anything else.
Just in terms of the people that are fed up with Washington and the establishment, as we sit here today, she is the lone candidate representing what obviously so many Americans, Republicans and Democrats, for their own reasons right now happen to despise.
And she's losing the vote in every state, and yet the Democrats expect her to triumph.
Where is her momentum?
How in the world does Hillary go from losing after losing after losing to becoming a triumphant victor at the Democratic convention when she didn't win, diddly squat, except superdelegates in the Democrat Party?
And I guarantee you, the AP and the media and the Democrats, they're not factoring all of this in because they're sitting there.
We're the Democrats.
We're invincible.
We own the media.
We don't lose.
They don't have, they haven't figured out yet.
The media wants Donald Trump to be elected president.
They haven't figured out the media wants Trump in the White House because it's going to be the most fun four years they've ever had.
It'll be fun.
They'll try to take Trump out.
They'll be able to party with Trump.
They'll be able to do everything they do as media.
They'll be able to try to destroy him.
He'll expect it.
He'll toy with him.
They'll get to cover him, go to wherever he goes.
It's going to be unexpected, unpredictable.
Ratings, boosts, and all kinds of stuff.
Make no mistake.
The drive-bys is universal.
There's nothing exciting about Hillary Clinton.
She's been there, done that.
In a lot of ways.
I've got to take a break, folks, on a little long here.
Sit tight.
We'll be back.
Okay, the phones.
And we're going to start in Raleigh, North Carolina with Justin.
Thank you for calling, sir.
It's great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hey, Arush, Megan Dittos.
I've got a question for you.
What work do you think Trump has now to do to win the rest of us that aren't so convinced that he's still the right guy?
I mean, I've got my opinions, but what do you think?
Why not want to hear yours?
What do you think he's got to do?
All right, well, here's my take.
First off, I mean, this is kind of pie in the sky because this always happens, but he really has got to limit his move to the left.
Those of us that were for Cruz, we like Cruz's ideas.
We liked his ideas on limited government, and he's got to show us that he's not going to be moving to the left.
Second, he needs to surround himself with staunch conservatives as advisors and potential cabinet members.
He's going to be able to have to take advice from these people.
Those of us that were for Cruz or for anybody else, we need to know that he's going to adhere to those conservative principles.
And finally, at least for those of us that still aren't convinced, he needs to stop talking about what government will do and start talking about what government won't do or what it can't do.
And right now, it seems for us that the general election is shaping up to be a choice between a status Democrat and a status Republican.
Yeah.
To be honest with you about that latter part, I don't know that Trump looks at government in terms of what it shouldn't do.
Trump looks at government in terms of what stupid stuff has it been doing that it needs to stop doing and start doing intelligently, intelligently as he defines it.
Look, I have I'm not going to, I'm repeating myself.
I'm not saying here anything I have not said during this whole campaign.
Donald Trump is not, capital NOT, a conservative.
He doesn't look at life that way.
If anything, he might think conservatives are a little oddball cookie.
He's a New Yorker.
Certain realities here, folks, that you have to – I'm not saying that he does, but I'm saying he doesn't see people and define them ideologically as whether they're good or bad in terms of being in government as whether they're conservative or not.
Trump is not an idea guy.
Trump is a winner guy in his mind.
He's a winner guy.
Trump is a kind of you.
You can criticize everything in the world, he thinks.
Just don't call him a loser.
Call him a loser.
He'll come out and rip you to shreds.
Tell him his ideas are crazy insane.
He's happy.
As long as you think he's a winner at the same time.
Anyway, I'm out of time here, Justin, but I'm going to answer more of this when we get back.
So don't think I've cheapened you here.
We'll not.
Back in a s ⁇ .
Okay, folks, sit tight.
Still two hours left to cram all kinds of thoughts, opinions, your phone calls in.
So you just sit tight.
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