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April 28, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 28, 2016, Thursday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Ted Cruz just got the best endorsement he could have ever gotten.
He could not have gotten a better endorsement than what he got out of John Boehner speaking to the Stanford Daily, the campus newspaper at Stanford.
Can you imagine?
Here's John Boehner out there calling John, call it calling Ted Cruz Lucifer.
The biggest SOB he ever had to work with.
Here's John Boehner, the former Speaker of the House, who had to work with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and Barack Obama.
And he says that Ted Cruz was the worst he ever had to work with.
Isn't that a little bizarre?
Especially since they both claim both Boehner and Cruz claim to be conservatives.
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Cruz had a pretty good presser here just a moment ago.
Just ended right as the program was beginning.
The Cruz presser.
And Cruz understands timing.
Trump has yet to learn it.
But Cruz understands it.
He got out of there right as the program was beginning.
He had Carly Fiorina standing next to him.
And he made an interesting point.
He said, you know, look, you listen to Trump and Trump talks about he's going to make Carrier do this and he's going to make Oreo do that and he's going to make Nabisco do this.
He said, I'm not that.
That's what Obama does.
The reason Carrier is leaving and relocating is Mexico because of Barack Obama policies.
But the president doesn't have the right to strong arm American corporations and tell them where they can and cannot operate.
That's what Trump wants to do.
That's what Barack Obama wants to do.
That's not who I am, he said.
And it was a good point.
I don't know, though, folks, I can't get over.
We had a call yesterday that if you didn't hear, let me just repeat it.
We had a guy named Sean Philadelphia.
He's a well-spoken guy.
And he had a bunch of points.
One of them was that he's just fed up with the fact that GOP has not been fighting back.
And this business with Boehner, I guarantee, Sean, in Philadelphia, if you're out there and if you've heard him, I know you're fuming.
It's exactly what he was talking about.
The Republican Party will not fight back at the Democrats.
This guy from Philadelphia made a point yesterday that George W. Bush would not defend himself against any of the assassination, the character assassination attempts that Democrats brought.
Boehner, the House, Senate leadership, never do anything.
The Democrats can say whatever they want.
There wasn't one critical thing out of their mouths about the Democrats.
And he said, look, and this is the takeaway.
He said, I don't agree with 80% of what Trump stands for, but I'm going to vote for him because the guy fights back.
The guy will fight back against the people that caller thinks are creating the vast majority problems in the country.
And here comes Boehner right on queue comparing Cruz to Lucifer.
So Cruz can run around and say, if anybody doubts that I am anti-establishment now, if anybody has any question over who the real outsider in this campaign is, just take a look at what Boehner said.
And then Cruz said, I don't remember ever working with the guy.
I mean, I'm over there in the Senate.
I don't know what would I have to do with the Speaker of the House.
I don't remember working in a face-to-face, direct fashion with Boehner.
Now, Boehner's over in Ohio.
That's the Indiana primary is coming up next week.
Interesting, too, the way this is shaping up, because what does Trump do?
Trump goes out against Bobby Knight.
Bobby Knight, one of the biggest people in Indiana, one of the most beloved, respected, and by the way, a fighter.
If Bobby Knight didn't agree with the Riffs, he'd throw a chair at him all across the court if he had to.
And so here's Bobby Knight talking about the guy that can get it done, and that's Donald Trump.
Same day that Ted Cruz announced Carly Fiorina as his vice presidential pick.
So they have two strategiaries here, and they're on display right side by side.
Cruz announces a VP pick, Carly Fiorina, strategic for California there, I think, and also an attempt to change the narrative.
And Trump appears on stage in Indiana with Bobby Knight, which is to keep up the momentum from the massive sweep of the Tuesday Northeastern primaries and then win Indiana and pretty much close it out, set up California.
So Cruz, his strategy is delegate strategic, Carly Fee Arena in California, trying to hold off Trump in Indiana.
And Trump is going for voter intensity with Bobby Knight in Indiana and using celebrity and the power of celebrity to change the narrative and get people all hyped up for his side of things.
Crew is obviously the master of the inside game, Trump playing the people's choice card here.
And of course, the media, this is the thing, folks, sad to say, the media is always going to gravitate to the guy on stage with the celebrity.
And it is the way it is in America today.
So Bobby Knight, big celebrity.
By the way, the media hates Bobby Knight.
You should know this.
The sports drive-bys hate Bobby Knight.
They hate it because he won, and he did not count out to them.
And Bobby Knight doesn't, I think, I don't think Bobby Knight broadcasts whatever his political affiliations are.
He's known as choosing what he thinks the best guy for the job.
Whether he's Republican, Democrat, liberal, conservative, I don't know that it's widely known.
And if it is, it's just because he's been in Indiana for so long and so many people know him, but he doesn't really broadcast it one way or the other.
But the media will gravitate to the man of the people, a celebrity in his own right.
The insider game is not sexy because you don't see it.
I mean, the insider game is Cruz working these state conventions for delegates.
Nobody sees that.
And even if anybody did, it wouldn't be exciting to cover.
Our cameras are live now at the San Cordova State Party Convention where Ted Cruz is wooing local carpenters who might end up as delegates.
Nobody's going to watch that.
It's not exciting.
But you get Bobby Knight out there.
But it's counted a little bit with Carly Fee Arena.
And so we had Trump's speech yesterday, and there has been all kinds of reaction to the speech, predictable and some shocking, some surprising.
We'll get into today.
Trump used a phrase in this speech, and I'm going to tell you, this is classic, folks.
This little bit of information I'm going to impart here to you is a great way to understand the dynamics of this race.
Trump in his phrase, in his speech, used the phrase, America First.
Well, that phrase has a pedigree.
That phrase is well attached to something very, very important and potentially very, very, very negative in American history.
It goes back to World War II, and it was used by those who didn't want to get anywhere near stopping the Nazis.
America First was the rallying call of anti-war people for the most part who said, the hell with it and we don't care.
They're not affecting us.
They want to take over Europe fine and dandy.
So here comes Trump using the phrase, America First.
Well, the learned intellectuals in the foreign policy corridors of America needed the vapors.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Does Trump even know?
Oh my God.
They can't get over Trump actually, does he even know?
They asked, does he even know that America First means Tassel supported the Nazis?
Oh my God.
And they started fainting and going on TV and acting like, oh, one of the greatest violations of foreign policy understanding.
And so the debate began.
Does Trump even know what he said?
Does he even know what America First means in terms of its historical context of World War II?
Or is he just out there using a phrase, America First, because he's appealing to a brain-dead bunch of voters, which is how the establishment looks at Trump supporters.
And it doesn't matter because I'll tell you what's going to happen.
If the people who occupy the learned and elite foreign policy corridors go overboard on this America First business, it's not going to separate Trump supporters from Trump.
If these, because these, the intellectuals of the foreign policy corridors, the establishment, the clubs and the associations and the think tanks and the intellectual hangouts in the domains, if those people start harping on Trump, the Trump supporter, your average Trump supporters could say, see, see, this is exactly the kind of nose-in-the-air arrogance that we want to get rid of.
This is the attempt to insinuate that Trump doesn't care about the Nazis, and that's how they're going to hear it.
And it's just going to cement them even tighter to Trump.
It's not going to make them think that Trump doesn't know what he's talking about, which would be the objective of people who bring up this America First business.
But the takeaway from Trump's speech yesterday, let me find it here.
There's this one, the only thing that matters as far as Trump supporters are concerned, and the rest of the people out there can analyze this.
I mean, and they are.
You have some people calling it incoherent and vacuous and empty and wandering in vain for search of a thought.
Other people, there were people, pro-Trumpists, who said that it was the most important and timely, substantive foreign policy speech since 1981.
Of course, the people who said that caused a massive reaction from the professionals in the foreign policy corridors of elitism.
But as usual, there's just way too much analysis.
People overanalyze this and apply their own biases, prejudices, or whatever to what Trump is doing.
And there's just really one takeaway.
If you want to know whether or not Trump's speech yesterday was a hit with the voters, that he has energized.
All you have to know is Trump said the following.
We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism.
That's it.
Everything before and after irrelevant.
That line made the speech one of the greatest ever.
That line, as far as Trump supporters are concerned, was all they needed to hear.
That was awesome.
That was right on the money.
We're going to take it to them.
We're not going to play second fiddle anymore.
We're going to sell American interest out.
We're going to put America first.
We're going to get rid of the globalists.
And I guarantee you, that's all they needed to hear.
Now, other people are going to analyze it much deeper and so forth and have.
We can spend some time.
I mean, sometimes it's fun to analyze the analysis because there's so many people pulling their hair out today.
They just.
They're just hoping and praying that every time Trump shows up and makes what is billed as a serious speech.
They want him falling flat and they want everybody to realize that he's fallen flat.
And they want everybody to realize that Trump doesn't know what he's talking about because that's what they think.
And when that doesn't happen, they panic.
And then they go overboard trying to convince people, you're wrong.
Trump's not this great guy.
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
He's going to put the country at great risk.
People don't want to hear it.
Don't believe it.
They think Trump's the only guy who does get it in terms of understanding America's enemies, America's opponents, what we're up against, and how we have to deal with it.
And that just scratches the surface.
We have some hilarious audio sound bites today.
No, I finished up on the caller.
The caller from Philadelphia says 80% he disagrees with Trump, but he's going to vote for him because he's a fighter.
That alone will explain to you why John Boehner's out there calling Cruz Lucifer because they just discombobulated.
And why the establishment's about ready to commit Harikari?
Because they, I mean, if people disagree with the guy 80% and still going to vote for him, believe me, that does not compute in their world of how you run elections and how you win them.
And six months early, Charlie Rose has begun asking, why don't we know more about Trump?
Remember, he asked that question about Obama a week before the 2008 election.
Remember that soundbite?
We have it, we'll remind you.
He's out of a broken there talking about Obama.
Who is Obama?
We don't know anything about Obama.
We know what books he reads.
We know what his foreign policy is.
It's a week out, and they're advocating everybody vote for the guy.
So Charlie has learned.
So they're getting started on why don't we know more about Trump?
Who is Trump?
What books does Trump read?
What is Trump's foreign?
They're getting a head start on that.
You'll hear that coming up.
Big, big news on Obamacare.
Big, huge news on Obamacare.
Economic news and some political insight that I'm going to share with you today based on things I heard people say on TV today that caused me to start asking huge, huge questions.
And try this headline, CBS Marketwatch, We're Going Broke Chasing the American Dream.
It's by somebody named Howard R. Gold.
It starts out, bad luck may play a role, but often the culprit is poor choices.
Ambition and aiming high are good things, but the American dream is much more expensive than it used to be.
It costs a family of four $130,000 a year to live it.
We're not going broke chasing the American dream.
Nobody's going broke.
You know what?
If anybody's going broke, it's because the government is shrinking the United States economy.
The government's taking over more and more of the economy.
The government's giving more and more money away to people that are not working.
They're giving more and more money away to people that don't have any dream.
They're giving more and more money away to attract people here to come register as Democrats to vote.
That's what's happening to the American Dream.
The Democrat Party is what's happening to the American Dream.
American liberalism is what happened to the American.
Oh, that reminds me.
I got a note from Newt today.
I got to tell you about that, but I have to take a break.
Don't go away.
Welcome back, folks.
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I got a note from Newt Gingrich today who said, you know what you want to do?
You need to do daily reports on Venezuela in order to teach people about the failures of socialism.
And my first reaction with Venezuela.
If Detroit's not doing the trick, how in the world does anybody expect teaching about Venezuela is going to do the trick?
But I wrote him back.
It's an interesting thing.
Essentially, this is what I've been trying to do for 27, 28 years, and I've learned what doesn't work.
I mean, Venezuela is literally falling apart.
Have you heard the latest?
The elites, government officials, are being told to only go to work two days a week in order to save electricity.
I mean, it's an absolute, abject, total implosion failure.
It is all the result of socialism and communism.
And so if you try to point out to either low-information people or young people, millennials, college students, you're going to fail every time.
You know why?
Why will you fail?
Why will it not work?
Why does it not work?
I've learned over 27 years that it doesn't work.
You know why?
Because there's no way that your average college student thinks that America would ever become Venezuela.
It's just, they personally cannot envision it.
And so to say that, you see, Venezuela, that's where we're headed, you lose them, right?
They just, even if it is possible to happen, they won't consider it.
Same thing with Cuba.
And my point, if they don't get the failures of the Democrat Party and socialism, looking at Detroit, you don't have to study Venezuela.
I mean, you could.
But you know what they would then say?
You stick to Venezuela.
You know what they did say?
Your average millennial, your average low-information voter would say to me, well, at least Hugo Chavez tried.
At least he cared about his people.
At least he tried.
That's more than you Republicans do.
You Republicans, you just, you just, it's all for the rich, and you don't want anybody having any fun.
That's all you care about is who's using the bathroom.
Marriage.
Screw it.
At least Hugo Chavez tried.
And that's going to be the reaction.
So how do you teach and alert young people to the perils of socialism?
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Here's Cruz.
We got these crew soundbites I referenced.
He ended a press availability just before noon.
And this is the point that I repeated he was making about Carrier, the air conditioning company, leaving Indiana for Mayco.
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton respond to something like Carrier by saying we're going to punish Carrier.
We're going to use government power to go and punish the corporation.
We're going to use force.
That's what Obama does as well.
This president, I don't intend to use government power to punish American citizens, American companies, American job creators.
That's not the role of government to be a bully and punish.
The reason Carrier is moving those jobs overseas is that the Obama administration has driven Carrier out of America.
And this is why it is so important that we have a debate.
All right, now that's, folks, these are fair points.
But again, when you talk about the trumpeteers, they want people punished.
The Trumpeter, you don't like Trumpeteers?
Look, I'm getting, I got Trump people saying, don't use Trumpist.
It's insulting.
I think it's clever.
Are you offended by calling a Trumpist?
I know you don't want to hear Trump bot.
You don't like Trumpeteer?
I don't like Trumper.
And I don't like trumpeter.
Trumpeteer sounds like...
How about...
Let's see.
Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
How about Trump Patriots?
You like Trump Patriots?
Trumpster.
They don't like it.
They don't like Trump stir.
They don't like Trumpist.
You tell me you don't like Trumpineers.
You don't like Trumpers.
It's too close to thumpers.
Trumpeters don't like that because it's a musical instrument.
I don't know.
I like Trumpist.
I've always liked Trumpist.
Sounds erudite.
It sounds thoughtful.
It sounds official attachment and so forth.
Anyway, remember now the takeaway, the important takeaway as we discuss Carrier here, the important takeaway from Trump's speech yesterday is this line.
We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism.
Again, just to clarify, don't assume any support on my behalf of this.
I'm trying to explain to the frustrated why people support Trump, why people support Cruz.
I can explain it.
That's what I'm doing.
And that line was all most Trumpists needed to hear.
They're losing their jobs.
They're losing their jobs to trade foreign trade that is not, they believe, advantageous to America.
Immigration is causing them to lose jobs.
Illegal immigrants are favored over Native Americans.
This is what they think.
They haven't had a significant raise or increase in their standard of living in 15 or 20 years.
They see American corporations hiring immigrants, legal immigrants, for much less money.
Native American job holders, current job holders, are being fired.
I mean, there's some legitimate grievances here.
And then they do see American companies relocating to Mexico and China and so forth.
It's been going on for many, many years.
And they haven't had anybody that they support stand up and oppose it or try to stop it.
Here comes Trump.
And he makes it clear that he's going to try to reverse it.
He condemns it.
He lets these people know that he understands their plight.
He's one of the few who does speak to them in terms of conveying he understands their plight.
And then he goes further and offers solutions.
He addresses their grievance and promises them that something's going to be done about it.
And when he says he's going to go talk to Carrier and make sure they don't leave, he's going to go to NAVISCO and he's going to go to Ford.
And after he finishes talking to them, they're not going to leave.
People are not worried that the president doesn't have that kind of power and may be engaging in dictatorial type.
They want somebody punished.
They want a president standing up for them.
And they're not concerned with whatever the Constitution looks at.
This, by the way, is an often cited fear that many people have because Obama has gotten away with it, that the next president's going to try to, and that we ought not applaud somebody giving Democrats a taste of their own medicine the way they've dished it out because it's not helpful in terms of the Constitution.
Well, I'm just telling you that the people that support Trump, they don't care.
If Carrier is going to leave Indiana and take their jobs and render them jobless with no hope of replacing the job and somebody can come along and save their job, what do you think they're going to do?
They're going to support it in the heck with the vagaries of the Constitution of presidential power.
Besides, they've seen Obama get away with it, and the Republicans haven't tried to stop him.
So, why isn't it fair for them to benefit from some of this kind of presidential behavior?
Again, I'm not endorsing any of it.
I'm just trying to explain it to people who think others ought to be able to spot it.
But Cruz has an excellent point here.
I'm not going to punish Carrier.
Carrier's leaving because of current policies implemented by this administration.
We're not going to punish anybody.
It's a good point, and it's a great illustration of the understanding of the proper use of federal power, the scope of federal power, and the limits on it.
The next bite is Cruz responding to Boehner, who, again, according to the Stanford Daily, referred to Cruz as Lucifer in the flesh.
Boehner spoke in an audience to an audience on the Stanford campus last night.
He said, I have Democrat friends, I got Republican friends.
I get along with most everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable SOB, except he didn't say SOB.
He says, son of a B.I. itch.
I never worked with a more miserable son of a B.I. itch in my life.
Now, last night was not the first occasion Boehner has referred to Cruz as Lucifer.
He said it last month during QA with reporters at the Futures Industry Association conference in Boca Raton.
And I just have to say, Cruz could not have gotten a better endorsement.
Here's Boehner, along with McConnell, who is quintessential GOP establishment.
And here is quintessential GOP establishment, ripping on Cruz as Lucifer and as a miserable SOB and a horrible guy to work with.
Here's Boehner.
I guess it's fine working with Pelosi.
Not a problem.
I guess it was fun working with Harry Reid.
Not a problem.
A lot of fun going to the White House working with Obama.
Great guy.
Not a problem.
Put Ted Cruz in the meeting, and I can't tell you how bad it was.
I think it says a lot, and to a lot of people, by the way, that here's the former Speaker of the House who will not, and there isn't, by the way, there isn't any other Republican will get anywhere near referring to a single Democrat this way.
And make no mistake, these guys hate Cruz more than they hate Trump, and they hate Trump.
They're scared of Trump.
They despise Trump.
They're worried about their dislike for Cruz is visceral personal.
Here's Cruz responding to Boehner.
John Boehner, in his remarks, described Donald Trump as his texting engulfing buddy.
So if you want someone that's a texting engulfing buddy, if you're happy with John Boehner as Speaker of the House and you want a president like John Boehner, Donald Trump's your man, he said something like, he's the worst SOB I've ever worked with, something like that.
I've never worked with John Boehner.
Truth of the matter is, I don't know the man.
I've met John Boehner two or three times in my life.
If I have said 50 words in my life to John Boehner, I'd be surprised.
And before we hit the break, this is Ted Cruz at his press conference answering a question from a reporter.
John Kasich has told voters here in Indiana to vote against you.
Miss Fiorino just last night called for Kasich to drop out.
What shape is this alliance that you have with Kasich in?
I recognize that the media is all eager to talk about an alliance.
There is no alliance.
Kasich and I made a determination where to focus our energies, where to focus our assets, where to focus our resources.
And got to take a brief time out.
We'll do that and be right back, folks.
I just heard somebody say that Boehner's criticism of Cruz as Lucifer and one of the most miserable sons of a BIH he's ever going to work with was not ideological.
That Boehner doesn't dislike Cruz because he's a conservative or because he's too conservative.
He dislikes Scruz because true Cruz, this is somebody on TV, he's a reprehensible guy.
Folks, they both may be true, but do not discount the reality that the primary reason Ted Cruz is disliked is precisely that he is conservative.
That is exactly why the Republican establishment doesn't like it.
It's why they didn't like Reagan.
It's why they didn't like Goldwater.
It's why they don't want any conservative triumphing and running, heading the party, being elected president.
It is all about conservatism.
There isn't a conservative comes along that they like.
There isn't a conservative out there that the GOP establishment would get behind and help win the party nomination.
It's just that simple.
So to run around and say that this problem that Boehner has with Cruz is not ideological, that's an attempt to cover up because it is totally the reason.
And I guarantee you, what else is going on is that what Cruz did on the floor of the Senate attacking McConnell, Boehner, as a member of the Republican establishment, that's just not done.
That's just the worst thing in the world.
Anybody, you do not publicly call out your leadership.
You just don't.
You don't do it to George Patton.
You don't do it to Ike.
You don't do it to McConnell.
And those are the two primary reasons for the animosity that Boehner openly admits having for Cruz.
He's not the only one either.
Let's get started on the phones with Ron in Houston.
Thank you for calling, sir.
Great to have you with us.
Hey, Rush, thanks.
We appreciate what you do.
Thank you.
I want to comment about the fact that you had mentioned that Cruz was calling out Trump for his heavy-handedness in dealing with Carrier, the fact that just like the Obama, they were going to use executive action, that they were going to go ahead and use his presidential power to force Carrier into staying in town.
My point is that at the end of the day, both Trump and Cruz are going to do the same thing.
They're going to deal with it in the same way.
They're going to use their power to bring an environment back into the United States through policy.
They're going to be very similar.
They're both going to do it that way.
Trump's not going to create executive action.
My concern is that this is what Cruz does.
This is why Cruz lost me as a supporter.
Carson first, Cruz and Trump, I was battling through, but I chose to go for Trump because he's going to tell you like it is.
I think what Cruz does, he goes ahead and he plays on Trump's strong personality.
When Trump says something, he says it's definitive and this is how we're going to do it.
Trump doesn't mean I personally am going to do it.
Trump is saying that I will create an economic environment through policy.
No, that's not what Trump is saying.
Now, come on now.
I was patient.
Trump is not saying he's going to create an economic environment where Carrier's not going to want to leave.
Trump is going to go, he's going to call him into the White House.
He very proudly tells people what he's going to do.
And Cruz, you have no idea what Cruz and Trump would behave in the same manner here, but you're choosing Trump over Cruz, even though they're going to act the same because Trump calls it like it is or what have you.
This is an unanswerable question.
All we have to do is go on.
What Cruz is saying is he would not use extra constitutional powers.
He would not strongarm.
He would not threaten Carrier.
He might call him in and talk to him.
He might try to figure out what the problem is, what he can do, working with Congress to alleviate their problems.
But that's not what Trump is saying he's going to do.
You're going to disappoint the Trumpists out there if you start misrepresenting what Trump is.
Trump is Mr. Strongarm, and that's what they like about him, and they want him to do it because some of these people need to be taught a lesson.
Some of these people need, they're like kids, and they've gotten away with no discipline for a while, and somebody needs to rein them in and punish them.
And that's what these people want Trump to do.
And they think he would be justified and validated in doing so.
Anyway, who's next?
Give me a green.
I'd be Gary in Queensbury, New York.
You're next.
Hello, sir.
Hello, sir.
How are you doing?
I appreciate your show, and I appreciate your knowledge.
You're a very intelligent man.
Thank you.
You sort of just answered the question I had about sticking to the league you were just speaking to.
My comment was that Cruz doesn't really have all the facts, right?
I believe Donald Trump is going to talk to these companies, like you said, and pretty much lay down the rules for them.
And if they want to leave and become an outsider, they're going to be treated like an outsider.
You sort of agree with that or don't agree with that?
Is that what you think Trump will do, is how he will deal with them?
And that's what you think I see.
Yeah, you can go bring them in, like you said, and talk to him and say, no, no, find out what the situation is.
And if you can help, find if you can't.
Now, he's not going to give them an alternative, but he's going to tell them if you're going to leave the country and work from outside the country, you have to be treated like an outsider as far as importing products versus making them here in this country.
Now, just to be clear, that's what you think Trump.
Yes, correct.
Yeah, and I think you answered my question, what you just said.
Are you agree with me in that point?
Well, I'm still guessing, based on what Trump has said and what I know his supporters hope he's saying.
Oh, yeah, it should be.
But I was just drawing it.
But the previous caller said that Trump's going to create a commission to create economic climate to convince Carrier not.
That's not at all what he's going to do.
He's going to use his powers as deal maker to get him to stay.
And your point is, if Carrier says, sorry, Mr. Trump, nice tribe, no deal, then he's going to treat them like outsiders after that.
If they leave the country, correct.
And if they leave the country, then Trump's going to treat them accordingly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, that is the impression that Trump is leaving.
Yeah.
That's why you think that.
Let me ask you a question.
I've got just a few seconds here.
But Gary, is that what you want him to do?
I want to get these companies to stay, if they can.
I mean, obviously, it's the best for a country of most of these countries today.
But if they do leave...
Okay, well, I'm just going to tell you something.
Independent of this campaign, independent of Trump or Cruz, if you want companies, transnationals, I love the term, if you want transnationals, major American corporations to stay here, then you're going to have to end cronyism.
You're going to have to end the ability of some corporations to have exclusive deals with whatever president in power, party is in power, and basically.
You know, we really ought to have a moderately serious discussion of what it would really require to keep American businesses in America, manufacturing plants in America.
I don't know if you learn everything, you're going to still support it.
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