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April 28, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 28, 2016, Thursday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of The Rush 24-7 podcast.
Ted Chris just got the best endorsement he could have ever gotten.
He could not have gotten a better endorsement than what he got out of John Boehner speaking to the Stanford Daily, the uh campus newspaper in Stanford.
Can you imagine?
Here's John Boehner out there calling John calling calling Ted Cruz Lucifer, the biggest SOB he ever had to work with.
Here's a John Boehner, the former Speaker of the House, who had to work with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and Barack Obama, and he says that Ted Cruz was the worst he ever had to work with.
Isn't that a little bizarre?
Especially since they both claim both Boehner and Cruz claim to be conservatives.
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Cruz had a pretty good presser here just a moment ago, just ended right as the program was beginning.
The Cruz presser at Cruz understands timing.
Trump has yet to learn it.
But Cruz understands it.
He got out of there right as the program was beginning.
He had Carly Fiorina standing next to him, and he uh he made an interesting point.
He said, you know, look, you listen to Trump, and Trump talks of what he's gonna make Carrier do this, and he's gonna make Oreo do that, and you can make Nabisco do this.
He said, I'm not that that's what Obama does.
The reason Carrier is leaving and relocating his Mexico because of Barack Obama policies.
But but the president doesn't have the right to strong arm American corporations and tell them where they can and cannot operate.
That's what Trump wants to do.
That's what Barack Obama wants to do.
That's not who I am, he said.
And it was uh it was a it was a good point.
I don't know, though, folks.
I can't get over.
We had a call yesterday that if you didn't hear, let me just repeat it.
We had a guy named Sean Philadelphia, he's a well-spoken guy.
I and he uh had a bunch of points.
One of them was that he's just fed up with the fact that GOP has not been fighting back.
And this this business with Boehner, I guarantee Sean in Philadelphia, if you're out there and if you've heard it, I know you're fuming.
It's exactly what he was talking about.
The Republican Party will not fight back at the Democrats.
This guy from Philadelphia made the point yesterday that George W. Bush would not defend himself against any of the assassination, a character assassination attempts at Democrats brought.
Uh Boehner, the House Senate leadership, never do anything.
The Democrats could say whatever they want.
There wasn't one critical thing out of their mouths about the Democrats.
And he said, Look, this is and this is the takeaway.
He said, I don't agree with 80% of what Trump stands for, but I'm going to vote for him because the guy fights back.
The guy will fight back against the people that caller thinks are creating the vast majority of problems in the country.
And here comes Boehner, right on cue, comparing Cruz to Lucifer.
So Cruz can run around and say, if anybody doubts that I am anti-establishment now, if anybody has any question over who the real outsider in this campaign is, just take a look at what at what Boehner said.
And then Cruz said, I don't remember ever working with the guy.
I mean, I'm over there in the Senate.
I don't know what what would I have to do with the Speaker of the House.
I don't I don't remember working in a face-to-face direct fashion with uh with Boehner.
Now, Boehner's over in Ohio.
That's the Indiana primary, is coming up next week.
Interesting too, the way this is shaping up because what does Trump do?
Trump goes out and gets Bobby Knight.
Bobby Knight, one of the biggest people in Indiana, one of the most beloved, respected, and by the way, a fighter.
If Bobby Knight didn't agree with the riffs, he'd throw a chair at him all across the court if he had to.
And so here's Bobby Knight talking about the guy that can get it done, and that's Donald Trump.
Same day that Ted Cruz announced Carly Fiorina as his vice presidential pick.
So you have two strategies here, and they're on display.
Right side by side.
Cruz announces a VP pick, Carly Fiorina, strategic for California there, I think, and also an attempt to change the narrative.
And Trump appears on stage in Indiana with Bobby Knight, which is to keep up the momentum from the massive sweep of the Tuesday Northeastern primaries, and then win Indiana and pretty much close it out, set up California.
So Cruz, his strategy is delegate strategic, Carly Fearina in California, trying to hold off Trump in Indiana.
And Trump is going for voter intensity with Bobby Knight in Indiana and using celebrity and the power of celebrity to change the narrative and get people all hyped up for his side of things.
Crew is obviously the master of the inside game, Trump playing the people's choice card here.
And of course, the media, this is the thing, folks.
Sad to say the media is always going to gravitate to the to the guy on stage with the celebrity.
And it is the way it is in America today.
So Bobby Knight, big celebrity.
By the way, the media hate Bobby Knight.
I just, you should know this.
The sports drive buys hate Bobby Knight.
They hate it, because he won.
And he did not count out to them.
And Bobby Knight doesn't, I think, I don't think Bobby Knight broadcasts whatever his political affiliations are.
He's he's known as choosing what he thinks the best guy for the job.
Whether he's Republican, Democrat, liberal, conservative, I don't know that it's widely known.
And if it is, it's just because he's been in Indiana for so long and has so many people know him, but he doesn't really broadcast it one way or the other.
But the media will gravitate to the uh the man of the people, a celebrity in his own right.
Uh the insider game is not sexy, because you don't see it.
I mean, the insider game is Cruz working these state conventions for delegates, and nobody sees that.
And even if anybody did, it wouldn't be exciting to cover.
Our cameras are live now at the San Cordova State Party Convention where Ted Cruz is wooing local carpenters who might end up as delegates.
Nobody's going to watch that's not exciting.
But you get Bobby Knight out there.
But it's counted a little bit with Carly Fee Arena.
Uh and so we had Trump's speech yesterday, and there has been all kinds of reaction to the speech, predictable and some shocking, some surprising.
We'll get into today.
Trump used a phrase in this speech, and I'm going to tell you this is this is classic, folks.
This little bit of information I'm going to impart here to you is a great way to understand the dynamics of this race.
Trump, in his phrase, in his speech, used a phrase America first.
Well, that phrase has a pedigree.
That phrase is well attached to something very, very important and potentially very, very, very negative in American history.
It goes back to World War II, and it was used by those who didn't want to get anywhere near stopping the Nazis.
America first was the rallying call of anti-war people for the most part who said the hell with it, and I we don't care.
They're not affecting us.
They want to take over Europe fine and dandy.
So here comes Trump using the phrase, America first.
Well, the learned intellectuals in the foreign policy corridors of America needed the vapors.
Oh my God!
Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, does Trump even know?
Oh my god, they can't get over.
Trump actually, does he even know?
They asked, does he even know that America first means tassel supported the Nazis?
Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god!
And they started fainting and going on TV and acting like, oh, one of the greatest violations of foreign policy understanding in the debate began.
Does Trump even know what he said?
Does he even know what America First means in terms of its historical context of World War II?
Or is he just out there using a phrase America first because he's appealing to a brain-dead bunch of voters, which is how the establishment looks at Trump supporters.
And doesn't matter, because I'll tell you what's going to happen.
If the if the people who occupy the learned and elite foreign policy corridors go overboard on this America first business.
It's not going to separate Trump supporters from Trump.
Because the intellectuals of the foreign policy corridors, the establishment, the clubs and the associations and the think tanks and the intellectual hangouts and the domains – If those people start harping on Trump, the Trump supporter, your average Trump supporters can say, see, see, this is exactly the kind of nose-in-the-air arrogance that we want to get rid of.
This is the attempt to insinuate that Trump doesn't care about the Nazis, that's how they're going to hear it.
And it's just going to cement them even tighter to Trump.
It's not going to make them think that Trump doesn't know what he's talking about, which would be the objective of people who bring up this America First business.
But the the takeaway from Trump's speech yesterday, let me find it here.
The only thing that matters, as far as Trump supporters are concerned, and the rest of the people out there can analyze this.
I mean, it, and there they are.
You have some people calling it uh incoherent and vacuous and empty and wandering in vain for search of a thought.
Uh other people get there were people, uh, pro-Trumpists, who said that it was the most important and timely, substantive foreign policy speech since 1981.
Of course, the people who said that caused a massive reaction from the professionals in the foreign policy corridors of elitism.
But as usual, there's there's just way too much analysis.
People overanalyze this and apply their own biases, prejudices, or whatever, to what Trump is doing.
And there's just really one takeaway.
If you want to know whether or not Trump's speech yesterday was a hit with the voters, that he has energized.
All you have to know is, Trump said the following: "We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism." That's it.
Everything before and after irrelevant.
That line made the speech one of the greatest ever.
That line, as far as Trump supporters are concerned, was all they needed to hear.
That was awesome.
That was right on the money.
We're gonna take it to them.
We're not gonna play second fiddle anymore.
We're gonna sell American interest out, we're gonna put America first, we're gonna get rid of the globalists, and I guarantee you, that's all they needed to hear.
Now, other people are gonna analyze it in much deeper and so forth, and have.
We can spend some time.
I mean, sometimes it's fun to analyze the analysis.
Because there's so many people pulling their hair out today that just they're just hoping and praying that every time Trump shows up and makes what is billed as a serious speech, they want him falling flat, and they want everybody to realize that he's fallen flat.
And they want everybody to realize that Trump doesn't know what he's talking about, because that's what they think.
And when that doesn't happen, they panic.
And then they go overboard trying to convince people, you're wrong.
Trump's not this great guy.
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
He's gonna put the country at great risk.
People don't want to hear it, don't believe it.
They think Trump's the only guy who does get it.
In terms of understanding America's enemies, America's opponents, what we're up against, and how we have to deal with it.
So that and that just scratches the surface.
We have some hilarious audio sound bites today.
No, I finished up on the caller for Philadelphia.
The caller from Philadelphia says 80% he disagrees with Trump, and he's going to vote for him because he's a fighter.
That alone will explain to you why John Boehner's out there calling Cruz Lucifer because they're just discombobulated.
They just why the establishment's about ready to commit Harikari, because they, I mean, if people disagree with the guy 80% and still going to vote for him, believe me, that does not compute in their world of how you run elections.
And uh and how you win them.
And six months early, Charlie Rose has begun asking, why don't we know more about Trump?
Remember, he asked that question about Obama a week before the 2008 election.
Remember that sound by we have it will remind you.
He's on a broco and they're talking about Obama.
Who is Obama?
We don't know anything about Obama.
We know what books he reads.
Well his foreign policy is.
It's a week out, and they're advocating everybody vote for the guy.
So Charlie has learned.
So they're getting started on why don't we know more about Trump?
Who is Trump?
What books does Trump read?
What is Trump's foreign?
They're getting a head start on that.
You'll hear that uh coming up.
Big, big news on Obamacare.
Big huge news on Obamacare, economic news, and some political insight that I'm going to share with you today, based on things I heard people say on TV today that caused me to start asking huge, huge questions.
And try this headline, CBS Market Watch, we're going broke chasing the American dream.
It's by somebody named Howard R. Gold.
It starts out bad luck may play a role, but often the culprit is poor choices.
Ambition and aiming higher good things, but the American dream is much more expensive than it used to be.
It costs a family of four, a hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year to live it.
We're not going broke chasing the American dream.
Nobody's going broke.
You know what?
If anybody's going broke, it's because the government is shrinking the United States economy.
The government's taking over more and more of the economy.
The government's giving more and more money away to people that are not working.
They're giving more and more money away to people that don't have any dream.
They're giving more and more money away to track people here to come register as Democrats to vote.
That's what's happening in the American Dream.
The Democrat Party is what's happening to the American dream.
American liberalism is what happened to America.
Oh, that reminds me, I got a note from Newt today.
I got him telling you about that, but I have to take a break.
Don't go away.
Welcome back, folks.
800-282-2882, if you want to be on the program.
I got a note from Newt Gingrich today, who uh who said, you know what you ought to do?
You need to do daily reports on Venezuela in order to teach people about the failures of socialism.
And my first reaction was Venezuela.
If Detroit's not doing the trick, how in the world is anybody expect teaching about Venezuela is going to do the trick?
But I wrote him back, because you know it's an interesting thing.
Essentially, this is what I've been trying to do for 27, 28 years, and I've learned what doesn't work.
I mean, Venezuela is literally falling apart.
Have you heard the latest?
The elites, government officials are being told to only go to work two days a week in order to save electricity.
I mean, it's an absolute, abject total implosion failure.
It is all the result of socialism and communism.
And so if you try to point out to either low information people or young people, millennials college students, you're gonna fail every time.
You know why?
Why?
Why will you fail?
Why will it not work?
Why does it not work?
I've learned over 27 years that it doesn't work.
You know why?
Because there's no way That your average college student thinks that America would ever become Venezuela.
It's just they personally cannot envision it.
And so to say that, you see, Venezuela, that's where we're headed, you lose them, right?
Because they just, even if it is possible to happen, they won't consider it.
Same thing with Cuba.
And my point, if if they don't get the failures of the Democrat Party and Socialism, looking at Detroit.
Don't have to study Venezuela.
I mean, you could.
But you know what they would then say?
You stick to Venezuela, you know what they did say?
Your average millennial, your average low information voter would say to me, well, at least Hugo Chavez tried.
At least he cared about his people.
At least he tried.
That's more than you Republicans do.
You Republicans, you just, you just it's all for the rich, and you don't want anybody having any fun.
That's all you care about who's usually in the bathroom, marriage, screw it.
At least Hugo Chavez tried, and that's going to be the reaction.
So how do you teach and alert young people to the perils of socialism?
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Here's Cruz.
We got these cruise sound bites I referenced.
He ended a press availability just before noon.
And this is the point that I repeated he was making about uh carrier, the air conditioning company, leaving Indiana for Meiko.
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton respond to something like carrier by saying we're gonna punish carrier.
We're gonna use government power to go and punish the corporation.
We're going to use force.
That's what Obama does as well.
This president, I don't intend to use government power to punish American citizens, American companies, American job creators.
That's not the role of government to be a bully and punish.
The reason carrier is moving those jobs overseas is that the Obama administration has driven carrier out of America.
And this is why it is so important that we have a debate.
All right, now that's folks, these are fair points.
Uh but again, when you talk about uh the Trumpeteers, they want people punished.
The Trumpeteer, you don't like Trumpeteers.
Look, I'm getting, I got Trump people saying, don't use Trumpist.
It's insulting.
I I think it's clever.
Are you offended by calling a Trumpist?
I know you don't want to hear Trump bot.
Uh you don't like Trumpeter?
I don't like Trumper.
And I don't like Trumpeter.
Trumpeter sounds like how about uh let's see, Trump, uh Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
How about uh Trump Patriots?
You like Trump Patriots?
Trump stir, they don't like it.
They don't like Trump stir, they don't like Trumpist.
You tell me you don't like Trumpineers.
I don't like Trumpers, uh too close to thumpers.
Trumpeters don't like that because it's a musical instrument.
I don't know.
I like Trumpist, I've always liked Trumpist.
Sounds erudite, it sounds thoughtful, it sounds uh official attachment and so forth.
Anyway, um remember now the takeaway, the important takeaway as we discussed carrier here.
The important takeaway from Trump's speech yesterday is this line.
We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism.
Again, just to clarify, don't assume any support on my behalf of this.
I'm trying to explain to the frustrated why people support Trump, why people support Cruz.
I can explain it.
That's what I'm doing.
And that line was all most Trumpists needed to hear.
They're losing their jobs.
They're losing their jobs to trade, foreign trade that is not, they believe, advantageous to America.
Immigration is causing them to lose jobs.
Illegal immigrants are favored Over Native Americans.
This is what they think.
They haven't had a significant raise or increase in their standard of living in 15 or 20 years.
They see American corporations hiring immigrants, legal immigrants, for much less money.
Native American job holders, current job holders are being fired.
I mean, there's some legitimate grievances here.
And then they do see American companies relocating to Mexico and China and so forth.
It's been going on for many, many years, and they haven't had anybody that they support stand up and oppose it or try to stop it.
Here comes Trump.
And he makes it clear that he's going to try to reverse it.
He condemns it.
He lets these people know that he understands their plight.
He's one of the few who does speak to them in terms of conveying he understands their plight.
And then he goes further and offers solutions.
He addresses their grievance and promises them that something's going to be done about it.
And when he says he's going to go talk to Carrier and make sure they don't leave.
And after he finishes talking to them, they're not going to leave.
People are not worried that the president doesn't have that kind of power and maybe engaging in dictatorial type.
They want somebody punished.
They want a president standing up for them, and they're not concerned with whatever the Constitution looked at.
This, by the way, is a is an often cited fear that many people have, because Obama has gotten away with it, that the next president's going to try to, and that we ought not applaud somebody giving the Democrats a taste of their own medicine the way they've dished it out because it's not helpful in terms of the Constitution.
Well, I'm just telling you that the people that support Trump, they don't care.
If Carrier is going to leave Indiana and take their jobs and render them jobless, with no hope of replacing the job, and somebody can come along and save their job.
What do you think they're going to do?
They're going to support it in the heck with the vagaries of the Constitution of presidential power.
Besides, they've seen Obama get away with it, and the Republicans haven't tried to stop him.
You know, so why isn't it fair for them to benefit from some of this kind of presidential behavior?
Again, I'm not endorsing any of it.
I'm just trying to explain it to people who think others ought to be able to spot it.
But Cruz has an excellent point here.
I'm not going to punish Carrier.
Carrier's leaving because of current policies implemented by this administration.
We're not going to punish anybody.
And it's a great illustration of the understanding of the proper use of federal power, the scope of federal power, and the limits on it.
The next bite is Cruz responding to Boehner, who, again, according to the Stanford Daily, referred to Cruz as Lucifer in the Flesh.
Boehner spoke in an audience to an audience on the Stanford campus.
Last night he said, I have Democrat friends, I get Republican friends, I get along with most everyone.
But I have never worked on the more miserable SOB, except he didn't say SOB, he said son of a BI itch.
I never worked with a more miserable son of a BI itch in my life.
Now last night was not the first occasion Boehner has referred to Cruz as Lucifer.
He said it last month during QA with reporters at the Futures Industry Association conference in Boca Raton.
And I just have to say, this could Cruz could not have gotten a better endorsement.
Here's Boehner along with McConnell, who is quintessential GOP establishment.
And here is quintessential GOP establishment ripping on Cruz as Lucifer and as a miserable SOB and a horrible guy to work with.
Here's Boehner.
I guess it's fine working with Pelosi, not a problem.
I guess it was fun working with Harry Reed, not a problem.
A lot of fun going to the White House working with Obama.
Great guy, not a problem.
Put Ted Cruz in the meeting, and I can't tell you how bad it was.
I think it says a lot, and and to a lot of people, by the way.
That here's the former Speaker of the House who will not, and there isn't, by the way, there isn't any other Republican, will get anywhere near referring to a single Democrat this way.
And make no mistake, these guys hate Cruz more than they hate Trump.
And they hate Trump.
They're scared of Trump.
They despise Trump.
They're worried about that their dislike for Cruz visceral personal.
Here's Cruz responding to Boehner.
John Boehner in his remarks describe Donald Trump as his texting engulfing buddy.
So if you want someone that's a texting engulfing buddy, if you're happy with John Boehner as Speaker of the House and you want a president, like John Boehner, Donald Trump's your man.
He said something like, he's the worst SOB I've ever worked with, something like that.
I've never worked with John Boehner.
Truth of the matter is I don't know the man.
I've met John Boehner two or three times in my life.
If I have said 50 words in my life to John Boehner, I'd be surprised.
And before we hit the break, this is Ted Cruz at his press conference, answering a question from a reporter.
John Kasich has told voters here in Indiana to vote against you.
Miss Fiorino just last night called for Kasich to drop out.
What what shape is this alliance that you have with Kasich in?
I recognize that the media is all eager to talk about an alliance.
There is no alliance.
Kasich and I made a determination where to focus our energy, where to focus our assets, where to focus our resources.
And got to take a brief time out.
We'll do that and be right back, folks.
I just heard somebody say that that Boehner's criticism of Cruz as Lucifer and one of the most miserable sons of a B.I.H. he's ever going to work with was not ideological.
That Boehner doesn't dislike Cruz because he's a conservative because he's too conservative.
He dislikes Cruz because true Cruz, this is somebody at TV, it's a reprehensible guy.
Folks, they both may be true, but do not discount the reality.
That the primary reason Ted Cruz is disliked is precisely that he is conservative.
That is exactly why the Republican establishment doesn't like it.
It's why they don't want any conservative triumphing and running heading the party being elected president.
It is all about conservatism.
There isn't a conservative comes along that they like.
There isn't a conservative out there that the GOP establishment would get behind and help win the party nomination.
It's just that simple.
So to run around and say that this problem that Boehner has with Cruz is not ideological, that's an attempt to cover up because it is totally the reason.
And I guarantee you what else is going on is that what Cruz did on the floor in the Senate attacking McConnell.
Boehner, as a member of the Republican establishment, that's that's just not done.
That's just the worst thing in the world.
Anyone, you do not publicly.
Call out your leadership.
You just don't, you don't do it to George Patton, you don't do it to Ike, you don't do it to McConnell.
And those are the two primary reasons for the animosity.
That uh Boehner openly admits having for Cruz.
He's not the only one either.
Let's uh get started on the phones with Ron in Houston.
Thank you for calling, sir.
Great to have you with us.
Hey, Ross, thanks.
Uh, we appreciate what you do.
Thank you.
I want to comment about the fact that you had mentioned that Cruz was uh calling out Trump uh for his heavy-handedness and dealing with um carrier, the fact that just like the Obama, they were gonna use executive action, that they were gonna go ahead and use his presidential power to force um carrier into doing bringing staying in uh town.
My point is that at the end of the day, both um Trump and Cruz are gonna do the same thing.
They're gonna deal with it in the same way.
They're gonna use uh their power uh to bring an environment back into the United States through policy, they're gonna be very similar.
They're both gonna do it that way.
Trump's not gonna create executive action.
My concern is that this is what Cruz does.
This is why Cruz lost me as a supporter.
I uh Carson first, Cruz and Trump, I was battling through, but I chose to go for Trump because he's gonna tell you like it is.
I think what Cruz does, he goes ahead and he plays on Trump's strong personality.
When Trump says something, he says that it's it's definitive and this is how we're gonna do it.
Trump doesn't mean I personally am gonna do it.
Trump is saying that I will create uh a uh economic environment through policy.
No, that's not what Trump is saying.
Now come on now.
I can't I was patient.
Trump is not saying he's gonna create an economic environment where Carrier's not gonna want to leave.
Trump is gonna go, he's gonna call him into the White House.
He very proudly tells people what he's gonna do.
And Cruz, you have no idea what Cruz and Trump would would behave in the same manner here, but you're choosing Trump over Cruz, even though they're gonna act the same because Trump calls it like it is or or what have you.
Um this is this is an unanswerable question.
All we have to do is go on.
What what Cruz is saying is he would not use extra constitutional powers.
He would not strong arm, he would not threaten Carrier or what he might call him in and talk to him.
He might try to figure out what the problem is, what he can do, what working with Congress to alleviate their problems, but that's not what Trump is saying he's gonna do.
You you're you're gonna disappoint the Trumpists out there if you start misrepresenting what Trump is.
They they Trump Trump is Mr. Strong Arm, and that's what they like about him, and they want him to do it because some of these people need to be taught a lesson.
Some of these people need, they're like kids, and they've gotten away with no discipline for a while, and somebody needs to rein them in and punish them, and that's what these people want Trump to do.
And they think he would be justified and validated in uh in doing so.
Anyway, who's next?
Give me a green.
That'd be Gary in Queensbury, New York.
You're next.
Hello, sir.
Hello, sir.
How are you doing?
I appreciate your show and I appreciate your knowledge.
You're a very intelligent man.
Thank you.
Um you you sort of just answered the question I had by sticking to the lead, you were just speaking to.
My comment was uh uh cruz doesn't really have all the facts right.
I believe Donald Trump is gonna talk to these companies, like you said, and and pretty much lay down the rules for them.
And if they want to leave and become an outsider, they're gonna be treated like an outsider.
You sort of agree with that or don't agree with that?
Um is that is that are you is that what you think Trump will do is how he will deal with them, and that's what you think I say.
I think he's gonna bring him in like you said and talk to him and say, no, no, find out what the situation is, and if you can help, fine if you can't.
No, uh he's not gonna give him an alternative, but it's gonna tell him if you're gonna leave the country and work from outside the country, you have to be treated like an outsider as far as importing products versus make them here in this country.
That's that's now just to be clear, that's what you think Trump Yes, correct.
And I think you answered my question, what you just said, or you uh or you agree with me in that point.
Well, um but I'm still guessing based on what Trump has said and what I know his supporters hope he's saying.
Oh, yeah, it should be based on what you're saying, I understand.
But the previous caller said that Trump's gonna create a commission to create uh economic climate to convince Carrier, not that's not at all what he's gonna do.
He's gonna use his powers as deal maker to get him to stay.
And your point is if Carrier says, sorry, Mr. Trump, nice try, but no deal, then he's gonna treat them like outsiders after that.
But if they leave the country, correct.
And if they leave the country, then Trump's gonna treat them accordingly.
But but you're yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um well, that is the impression that Trump is leaving.
Yeah, that's why you think that.
Um let me ask you a question.
I got just a few seconds here.
But Gary, isn't that is that what You want him to do?
I want I want to get these companies to stay, if they can.
I mean, obviously it's the best for our country if most of these countries stay.
But if they do leave.
Okay, well, I'm just gonna tell you something.
Independent of this campaign, independent of Trump or cruise, if you want companies, transnationals, I love the term.
If you want transnationals, major American corporations to stay here, then you're gonna have to end cronyism.
You're gonna have to end the ability of some corporations to have exclusive deals with whatever president power party is in power, and and and get basically.
I'm out of time.
You know, we really ought to have a moderately serious discussion of what it would really require to keep American businesses in America, manufacturing plants in America.
I don't know if uh you learn everything, you're gonna still support it.
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