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I can't believe it they've reinstated Tom Brady's suspension.
And you read the decision here from these uh these appellate judges.
They really think the lower court just blew this sky high.
There's no way.
These judges, these appellate judges, say that Brady didn't cheat.
Brady had to know.
It's diametrically opposed to the lower court ruling.
Anyway, it's not the big news of the day, but it's it's still somewhat surprising coming out of nowhere.
Uh the four-game suspension for Brady uh reinstated.
It'd be interesting to see what the NFL does with this now.
Anyway, uh greetings, my friends, and welcome back.
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You know, I was hoping not to have to mention this, but I'm gonna have to.
I have the reason I was out Friday had some oral surgery.
And uh mouth feels weird, uh, you know, after oral surgery.
And and until my uh it just it feels speaking feels weirder.
Mouth feels weirder.
So uh if if if I sound a little strange during the program today, simply my adaptation to the uh feelings and the new contours and protrusions and depths of uh different things now in my oral cavity.
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Okay, the big news, the big news, Kasich and Cruz forming an accord to try to stop the Trumpster.
Let me tell you what this is all about.
Everybody's trying to figure this out, and everybody's digging deep, trying to get into analysis that nobody else has come up with.
Everybody trying to become the smartest guy in the room.
Let me explain to you what this is really all about.
This is about narratives.
The Cruz and and primarily Cruz, but but uh Kasich as well are convinced that they had to do something to change the narrative.
The narrative is that Trump's already won this.
That narrative is beginning to settle in.
In many people's estimation, the narrative has set in.
Uh Trump's win in New York, even though it was expected, was voluminous.
It was bigger than everybody thought.
This has created in the media this this narrative that now Trump is inevitable.
And that means that it is over.
Isn't it interesting, by the way, when we discuss news, we don't discuss news anymore, we discuss narratives.
And you know what a narrative is.
A narrative is simply a story that somebody wants to tell.
And a story that somebody wants to tell that can dominate as though it is the news.
That's why I say there isn't any news anymore.
There's simply the advancement of agendas.
Now, in this case, we have these Northeastern primaries coming up, and it is expected here that Trump is going to continue to do well, and that Cruz and Kasich are not, and that's going to further add to the narrative that Trump has it locked up.
Where Trump still might run into trouble is out west.
Washington State, California, and until this, you know, Indiana was was something that was uh possibly up for grabs.
So what what is what is happening here is that Cruz and Kasich are, it's it's I don't want to say Hail Mary, but they may think of it that way, as a last ditch effort to stop the narrative, to change the narrative that Trump has this wrapped up and that it's all but over and inevitable because uh neither Kasich nor Cruz can get 1237 before the convention.
Their only hope is to is to see to it that Trump doesn't get to 1237.
So that I think it's really no more complicated than that.
It's it's not about uh intricate delegate math might be.
But you don't need to add up numbers here to figure out what's going on.
This is strictly about trying to change the tone of the news.
Uh and it's it's about and uh there's little offshoots of this that are fascinating too.
I know some people that were shocked today that Cruz decided to team up with Kasich.
If Cruz are going to team up with anybody, team up, team up with uh with Trump.
You know, they they both occupy the outsider position here in the campaign.
They're but they've both staked out that position.
And if you're gonna have any any teaming up, teaming team up that way, ice casic out, and then make it officially over.
But that's not what happened.
So it's uh it's the way this thing is falling out.
And I don't know that there's anything really that's going to to uh change this.
We'll see if this has the desired effect from the Cruz and Casick standpoint.
You remember the uh the delegate, the RNC delegate that we have quoted in the past on this program guy by the name of Curly Haugland, it's how it's spelled.
H-A-U-G-L-A-N-D.
And Curley is the guy we quoted some weeks ago now as saying, you know, you people in the news media, you you don't understand how this works.
The voters don't choose the nominee, we delegates do that.
And voters have nothing to do with it.
And it kind of snuck in under the radar out there.
I mean, it he was he didn't walk it back, it didn't cause a lot of controversy.
It was just there, and some people paid attention to it, but not much.
Well, little Curly is back.
Now, this actually is dated April 22nd, so this goes back to uh Friday when I was out.
It's on CNBC.
Donald Trump may be the only Republican presidential candidate who can realistically hit 1237 for the majority delegates, but according to a senior RNC official, that does not mean that he's going to become the nominee.
Curly Haugland, a long-standing RNC official and an unbound delegate from North Dakota, who will be on the convention rules committee in July, told CNBC that attaining 1237 during the primaries does not secure the nomination.
Did this come up Friday, Mr. Snurdley?
Did this Oh, good, okay.
Here's Curly.
Even if Trump reaches the magic number of 1237, the media and RNC are touting.
That does not mean that Trump's automatically a nominee, Curly said.
The votes earned during the primary process are only estimates and are not legal convention votes.
The only official votes, the nominated candidate, are those that are cast from the convention floor.
Now this makes perfect sense.
Obviously, nobody's counting delegates yet, but when you count the pledged delegates, and the delegates that must vote the way they must vote on the first ballot.
That's of course where the 1237 comes into play.
What Curly's saying is, hey, we run this show, and we can uh massage this, and we can do whatever we want to do here with this delegate count.
First ballot, second ballot.
He explained that the primary number is really an estimate.
That's because the eligibility of some delegates in how they are voted in could be questioned, and their status may not be considered valid.
Well, let's pull back that and see what he's talking about.
Let's just take Florida, for example, because Trump won it all over dealing with a solid number, 99 delegates.
Ninety-nine delegates are pledged to Trump on each of the first three ballots in Florida.
What old Curly is saying here, you know, we might decide to challenge 50 or 10 or two or 20 of those delegates.
We might try to say that they're not legal.
We might we might try to say that they don't meet the threshold.
We might try to say that their votes don't count because of some vagary or what when He starts talking about the eligibility of some delegates, how they are voted in.
He's saying maybe they weren't selected legally.
Maybe they weren't appointed legally.
I mean, this guy is is uh he's essentially shouting the rooftops.
To anybody who wants to listen that you all think you're choosing what's happening here, but you're not, we are.
What he's really talking about here is that the credentials committee can decide to take away the credentials from state delegates, some states' delegates, and give them to another group.
And by the way, that happened in 2012.
The credentials committee took away the credentials from Maine's delegates because they suspected them of actually being Rand Paul supporters, even though Romney had won the Maine primary.
Do you remember that?
What I mean.
Yeah, you said, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now that I mentioned that, you vaguely remember this.
2012, the credentials committee at the Republican National Convention took away the credentials from Maine's delegates because they suspected them of actually being rammed Paul supporters and snuck in there, even though Romney had won the main primary.
So their credentials were given to Maine delegates.
Curly said, now remember, every state has a different delegate allocation process.
Delegates are picked up in state contests.
It can be winner take all, it can be open primaries.
And remember, there are seven states that allow the candidates to pick their own delegates.
And until those delegate challenges are settled, there is no 1237.
Now he said that he expects the delegates won in winner take all states to be most likely challenged, too.
So here's the point.
The establishment is not just going to roll over, no matter what Trump gets going into this.
Don't misread what I'm saying.
I'm not say it's risky even getting into this because Curly's kind of out there on his own.
But you have to know that the establishment's going to do everything they can here.
I mean, we've heard that they're panicking, and they are.
And they're going to pull out all the stops.
And it's really getting bloody out there.
They get Charles Koch and his own version of Operation Chaos.
Charles Koch, upset that he can't find any Republican worth supporting.
Charles Koch is upset he can't find a Republican worth supporting who believes in what he believes.
Lower taxes, smaller government, standard run-of-the-mill conservative libertarian philosophy.
He can't find anybody.
He said Trump's not the guy.
And interestingly, he says he's not hearing enough things from Cruz to make him the guy.
So Charles Koch is saying may have to vote for Hillary.
I I don't know.
Hillary said, I don't want this guy's vote.
This guy doesn't believe in climate change.
I don't want Charles Koch's support.
Um the Hillary and Bernie race isn't over, and there's an interesting piece, the Hill.com as to why it isn't over, and it's not just to do with this uh FBI investigation of Mrs. Clinton.
There's polling data out there that shows Democrat women have reached their limit with Hillary.
I mean, they're just she's just boring them.
Left and right.
The punk, the uh that's our affectionate nickname for Terry McCaulff, governor of Virginia, has just via executive order given 200,000 felons the right to vote Democrat.
He has just lifted the prohibition against felons voting, and has uh said to Republicans upset about, well, if you don't like it, start competing for their votes, like we've done.
And if you want the felon vote, go get it, like we've done.
So there's that.
Uh we've got a uh really really good audio soundbite roster coming.
So let's take a brief time out.
We'll come back, start putting all of this in perspective for you.
Uh John Kasich, I couldn't believe what I was watching today.
Kasich was at a diner in in Pennsylvania.
He was having breakfast.
Reporters were asking him questions about this deal that he's made with Cruz, this arrangement he's made with Cruz.
And he was actually eating.
You don't do that.
And he was taking giant forkfuls of food, giant mouthfuls of you just don't do that.
You never ever.
That's what killed Caroline Kennedy's chances.
You know, she went up there to uh what's the name of the Yeah, Sylvia Soul Food with a Reverend Sharpton.
She had to pass the test up there.
And uh Sharpton did the right thing.
He didn't eat anything, and she is just shoveling it in.
While the cameras are you just don't do that.
It's not, it's not that you might spill something.
You just you just don't do it.
Nobody looks good, especially people that don't have good manners.
You know, people eat with their mouths open and smack.
It's one of the most boring, irritating things.
Well, no, I actually I I kind of thought there might have been some derailing of the Trump train last week.
It turned out not to be the case, but I really thought that Trump's comments on being cool with boys in the girls' bathroom, uh, and vice versa.
And by the way, by the way, Mr. Sturdley, I asked you, do you think Trump walks this back?
You remember the comments where he's okay with girls in the boys' bathroom and vice versa.
And I said, Do you think he walks them back?
You said no way, and he did.
And I told you he'd walk them back, and he walked them back by saying, you know what?
It's a states issue.
Let's just leave it up to the states.
Because he came out and they make it sound like it's no big deal.
And I had some people say, Rush, you you you're forgetting your own advice.
You're forgetting your own observations.
This is Trump strategically appealing to left-wingers as he attempts to expand his base.
You know, girls in the boys' bathroom and vice versa is a big deal to them, so he's not going to come out and criticize it.
And I said, Yeah, but this this has a chance to backfire.
And I I thought it might do, but it didn't.
It it it.
And then when he he came out and said he wanted to raise tax on the ridge, I said, that's that's gonna cost some blowback, and it didn't.
And then when he really made the point that he's gonna bring all these little legals back legally, the illegals are gonna come legally.
I I thought three different chances there that Trump might have not destroyed the can't don't misunderstand, maybe given people pause, but that didn't happen.
The Trump train rolls on, and so they have the the uh the momentum kept on, the narrative uh is is established.
And I here's what I think has happened here.
Again, just to explain this this accord between Cruz and Kasich.
Trump has gotten a boost or has benefited from three things recently.
That New York win, although everybody knew it was going to happen, the fact that he hit sixty percent and won that bigger than anybody thought, that creates momentum.
That that's it.
That's a big, big plus.
And I think Trump Trump has succeeded.
I can tell by the people who have called this program.
And as you know, late last week I spent a lot of time thanking various callers for helping you to learn things.
And Trump has succeeded in convincing his voters that Cruz is disenfranchising them by interfering with the process out there and stealing delegates.
Even though it isn't happening.
Trump supporters think it's happening.
Trump has been able to convince his supporters that it's happening.
The third thing is this well, You add those two together and you get this inevitability or it's over.
Uh and that's what I think they're trying to fight now.
I think the effort here to beat back that narrative is what's going on.
Here's Kasich today.
We have time to get this.
Yeah, Kasich, here he is in Philadelphia today.
Reporter.
Your collaboration with Senator Cruz smacks a desperation, sir.
No, I'm not desperate of you.
Are you desperate?
Because I'm not.
Giving him some.
If we keep people yelling at me, I'm not going to answer the question.
Have a little bit of civility when you do your job.
My team met with the cruise people and they made a recommendation.
I don't have, you know, like Daddy Warbucks behind me giving me all this money.
I have to be careful about my resources.
I don't see this as any big deal, other than the fact that I'm not going to spend resources in Indiana.
He's not going to spend them in other places.
So what?
What's the big deal?
And we'll be back and explain it in a minute.
No, no, don't misunderstand.
I don't think it's over.
I just No, no, no, no, no.
If the if the Trump people thought it was over, they wouldn't be going through this uh business of trying to remake Trump, turn him into presidential Trump, whatever it is they say they're doing.
If this were over, if they really thought it was over, the Trump campaign profile would be entirely different, and it would be focused almost exclusively on Hillary.
Um and there wouldn't be a lot of this ongoing uh effort, public effort to remake Trump's persona, his image, whatever making him presidential is.
But it's clear that they're trying to capitalize from this narrative.
You know, narratives are powerful things.
They lead to self-fulfilling prophecies in many ways, and that's what the Trump people are trying to capitalize on.
It's what the Cruz and Kasich people are trying to stop.
Uh and it's not over.
There's there's there's way too much yet to happen.
But here's here's look, this is this is where it gets tough.
Because in these next primaries coming up tomorrow, it's going to be another Trump sweep.
None of this is unexpected.
None of this is going to be shocking.
We're we're in Trump's backyard now in the Northeast.
He's going to do well in Pennsylvania.
He's going to do well in uh Delaware and Maryland and so forth.
Indiana still don't know.
But you go out west, California and Washington State.
A lot of people think that Trump is going to have those those states locked up, and he's not.
It it it has been calculated.
How many there's 192 delegates in California?
Trump's going to need 119 of them.
According to the best calculations, Trump's going to need 119 of California.
If everything goes prior to that, according to projection, Trump is going to need 119 of California's delegates.
Out of their 192, I don't know that he's going to be able to do that based on uh polling that's out there now.
And remember that Cruz and Kasich are all about a contested convention.
They're not trying to get to 1237 themselves.
They're trying to stop Trump from uh from getting there.
And it's up to you, really, if if you want to if you want to be affected by the narrative, uh, and it's tough to avoid these.
I mean, you're gonna turn on cable news, and it it's not gonna tell you, it's very subtle.
If they start asking people questions uh about Trump as though he already is the nominee.
You know, it's very, very subtle the way these things play out.
Uh, even the way reporters question Trump himself, or Cruz or Kasich.
Uh all they'd have to do is start asking Cruz or Kasich questions as though they've already lost.
And you can cement these so-called narratives or templates, and that's what's going to be the order of the day in those places in the media that are all in for Trump.
So you just have to steal yourself for it.
But it isn't over, and it's not gonna be over.
This is gonna go through California.
It's probably going to go through California.
And I don't think that uh cruise people are gonna quit any time before then.
Kasich has now been uh given a new nickname by Trump.
It's now Lion Ted Cruz and One for 38 Kasich.
That's the team that Trump says he's up against.
Lion Ted and one for 38 Kasich.
Let's go back to this Kasich soundbite.
Again, this is at a uh diner, a restaurant in Philadelphia today.
And it's a QA, and a reporter is asking Kasich about his accord, his new collaboration with Cruz.
And say, you know, it kind of smacks a desperation, Governor Kasich.
Isn't this desperate?
And Kasich profoundly offended by this.
No, I'm not desperate of you.
Are you desperate?
Because I'm not.
Governor, do you expect...
Okay, I can't.
If we keep people yelling at me, I'm not going to answer the question.
Have a little bit of civility when you do your job.
My team met with the Cruz people and they made a recommendation.
I don't have, you know, like Daddy Warbucks behind me giving me all this money.
I have to be careful about my resources.
I don't see this as any big deal, other than the fact that I'm not going to spend resources in Indiana.
He's not going to spend them in other places.
So what?
What's the big deal?
Why don't you have a little bit of civility when you do your job?
Don't keep yelling at me.
So then another reporter said, Are you telling your voters not to vote for you in Indiana?
Is that what you're doing?
I've never told them not to vote for me.
They ought to vote for me.
But I'm not over there campaigning and spending resources.
We have limited resources.
You folks have been counting me out before I even got to New Hampshire.
And now we can't jam it all of you into this diner.
I'm not campaigning in Indiana, and he's not campaigning in these other states.
That's all.
That's all it is.
Thank you guys.
Thank you, Governor.
Not a big deal.
But it's fun though, you're all still here.
By the way, I'm having the time of my life.
What is he so testy about?
That made an accord.
The reporters are coming along, they're asking about the accord, and Kasich's acting like there hasn't been an accord.
Or he's acting like it's not that big a deal.
It is a big deal.
They want it to come across as a big deal.
And Kasich, I don't know what you're asking me.
I mean, I'm not going to spend money in Indiana, and he is, and I'm going to spend money where he isn't.
And it's guys, just he's he's incredibly testy.
Now here's Cruz.
This is in Borden, Indiana.
Cruz speaking with reporters about his strategic rising with Kasich.
Reporters said, Did you make Governor Kasich a deal to work with you on this?
We had conversations and both campaigns agreed to focus our energies.
We're focusing our energy on the state of Indiana, and Governor Kasich is focusing his energies elsewhere.
I think that is a decision, an allocation of resources that makes a lot of sense, and it's devoted to the principle of beating Hillary Clinton in November and turning this country around.
It is abundantly clear that nobody is getting to 1237.
We are headed to a contested convention.
And at a contested convention, Donald Trump is in real trouble.
Why?
Because he cannot earn the support of a majority of the delegates elected by the people.
Yeah, and so when when Cruz says that, see, here come the Trumpsters.
Yeah, yeah, because you're out there cheating, you're out there disenfranchising people, you're out there stealing delegates at our Donald's and so that's stuck.
You heard the calls we had last week from from Trumpists who uh tried to explain to me why it is that they think uh delegates are being stolen.
And it doesn't matter what whether they're right or wrong, the perception is, and this is all part of this narrative that's being created.
The perception is, and it fulfills a claim that Trump makes that he's victim, that everybody's ganging up against him and he's being cheated.
Uh and he's triumphing over it, which uh you know adds even more mystique as far as his uh uh voters are concerned.
Another reporter in Borden, Indiana said to Senator Cruz, respectfully, sir, what do you say to those people, though, who say that it's collusion that what you and Kasich are doing.
Trump is saying that you're colluding, and we expect to hear that uh him for help again and again on a campaign trail.
I understand that Donald will whine.
That's what he does.
Donald is a Sore loser when he lost five states in a row in landslide elections, Donald threw a tantrum.
And his response is to attack the voters.
His response is to attack the people.
Yes, I get that the Trump campaign is scared.
They're scared of Indiana.
If Donald wasn't scared, he'd show up in Indiana and have a debate.
But he would much rather hide in Trump Tower.
He'd much rather stay in Northeastern states that tend to be more liberal that actually come to the Midwest.
Again, I'm forced to ask, does Trump look scared to anybody?
Does Trump look like he's afraid to go anywhere?
I don't know how that sells.
And I understand the technique and the desire to call Trump out and so forth.
I understand what's going on there.
I just I Trump of all the things Trump looks to be scared, frightened, intimidated, is not one of them.
But you know this this thing that they're doing that the crews in Kasich are doing is actually the Romney plan.
March 3rd, 2016, Salt Lake City at the Hinckley Institute.
Romney spoke about the presidential election and Trump.
See if you remember this.
I believe we can nominate a person who can win the general election and who will represent the values and policies of conservatism.
Given the current delegate selection process, that means that I'd vote for Marco Rubio in Florida and for John Kasich in Ohio and for Ted Cruz or whichever one of the other two contenders has the best chance of beating Mr. Trump in a given state.
So you could say that Romney has already outlined this strategy that has now been uh taken up by Cruz and Kasich.
We'll get to your phone calls when we come back after the break, so sit tight.
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Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.
John, you're first.
It's great to have you, and I'm glad you called.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
Thank you so much for taking my call very quickly.
My father passed a few years ago, but he turned me on for you.
I've been listening to you for probably 20 years.
This is a great honor.
Thank you.
Thank you, I appreciate that very, very much.
Thank you, thank you.
I wanted to call, I'm in Pennsylvania, as you said, our primary is tomorrow.
And listening to you as long as I have, I know that you don't endorse candidates in a primary.
And Ted Cruz has an ad running in our local market that uh to the average listener who doesn't know you as well as I do would certainly think that you've endorsed him.
So I wanted to uh to just give you a call and uh let you know about that and see if you have any thoughts on it.
Well, I've heard of this.
Uh this this happens every campaign.
Uh sometimes multiple candidates will use excerpts of things I have said and incorporated into their commercials.
There is this thing called fair usage.
It is an FCC regulation, and it allows the fair use of what has been broadcast publicly of pretty much anything, with a maximum, I think it's I forget what it is, eight seconds, ten seconds.
They can take eight seconds, ten seconds of what you say without compensating you without uh your permission or any of that.
And it's on that basis that uh candidates would appropriate my words that could be said to be in their favor and incorporate them into their commercials.
Uh I don't make a big deal about it because there's nothing really I can do about it, and I it doesn't bother me.
I mean, if if if they quote me accurately, put the context in there, that's fine.
You know, I'm not gonna deny I say what I say.
I'm very proud of what I say.
I'm very proud of what I know.
I'm I I love hearing myself speak.
You would too if you were right as often as I am.
It's fun.
So if somebody wants to repeat it, uh and echo that, more power to them.
But I appreciate the heads up.
I know John's warning me out there that maybe I I know what he's trying to do.
He says, maybe that you know, I'm my my words are being used and I'm not aware of it.
And no, I'm aware of it.
I uh I know when these things happen.
Here's Dan in Traverse City, Michigan.
Dan, you're next.
Great to have you, sir.
Hello.
Uh fine, Rush.
How are you doing?
Very well.
Uh okay, Rush.
I'm another caller trying to basically the callers last week, trying to get you to see the point of the Trump Act.
And then you couple times last week said, Oh, I think I see the point here, and which you didn't.
And then, oh, I think I see the point here.
And we all love you, by the way.
So I want to note that.
So I want to I want to lay out the point that the Trump is are trying to get to you and why there's some disappointment.
You normally look at things and you make a judgment about whether things are BS or they're good.
And the Trumpists want you to say, hey, when a uh state votes, uh, it's done.
The delegates ought to be locked in, and there shouldn't be any way to go back and try to convince the guy who's smoking the cigars.
And that's the yes.
We want you to say, hey, this latest thing with Cruz and Kasich is the people are voting.
Whoever they pick ought to be the winner.
And now them them trying to manipulate the system this way is BS.
And so we want you to make a call.
Wait, wait, let's not mix that.
You're you're you're talking to when you bring what Kasich and Cruz are doing in this, now you're mixing that with the delegate uh things that are happening.
And those are those are two different things.
Let's stick with one thing.
Let's stick with the delegate.
I see, I I I don't see it quite the way you guys do, because I don't see anything wrong with what Cruz is doing, because what Cruz is bear with me on this.
I I'm I'm I'm just trying to get this right.
I'm not trying to rile anybody up.
The point is that Ted Cruz is not trying to get anybody pledged to Donald Trump to vote against Donald Trump when they can't do so.
The first ballot.
That's not what this is all about.
This is all about if there are second and third ballots and uh trying to isolate delegates that may be required to vote for Trump but do not support him.
That's all that's going on here.
Now it's all and it's always been the process.
There's nothing new this year that has never happened before.
It's just that nobody's seen it to this degree, nobody's seen it this deeply, because it's never mattered like this before.
But what specifically do you think I am not seeing, or that you specifically want me to condemn and call BS on?
We we we want you to say, folks, when the state votes, and and the pr should be a primary where everyone goes and votes, the delegates are allocated however they're allocated, and that ought to be end of the story until the convention.
People shouldn't be able or even have to go back to the state and go back in the rooms and try to convince people of anything.
The delegates should be locked in, period, and then they move the next state, and then you know, and so the fact that Trump hasn't been going back as well as that we're trying to get you to see.
We want you to say Tell me something.
Okay, state has its primary.
Tell me Florida has its primary.
You're calling from Michigan.
Michigan has its primary.
When are Michigan's delegates then chosen?
Uh after after the primary.
Where?
What do you mean when you say where?
What do you mean?
Well, I mean, the primary's one thing, and then they choose a delegate, that's another different thing.
Where did where do the delegates get named?
Where are they chosen?
Well, well, they're the after the primary, before the election, but here's see here's the thing.
The primary has nothing to do with the actual individual people chosen as delegates.
All the primary does is tell those delegates what they have to do on the first ballot, or in the case of Florida, the first three ballots.
I have to take a break.
I'm sadly out of time, but I'm not gonna tell you there's a story here in the stack.
It's gonna irritate uh people.
Cruz crushes Trump in weekend delegate fight.
It's a political story.
You know, I'll use this story to to bounce off of our our last caller here.
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