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April 21, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 21, 2016, Thursday, Hour #3
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Yeah, we have one busy, exciting broadcast hour remaining here, folks.
Again, I'm out tomorrow.
Who do we have in here tomorrow?
Buck Sexton from the CIA is in here tomorrow.
Because I'm going to be out.
So we're doing open line Friday on Thursday today.
Or have at me day, we are calling it for those of you with grievances.
I'd say I really need to apologize.
I have.
I do.
I need to apologize.
I didn't know.
I I really did not know that this LGBT bathroom thing was just about signs on the on the on the doorways.
I really thought that what this was about was protecting women and children from predatory men going into the opposite sex bathroom.
I didn't know that it was the sign on the bathroom that discriminates.
So I I must apologize.
I don't know why a person with a penis and two testicles would want to go into the women's restroom.
But that's just me.
What they are the uh you mean the person with the penis and two testicles feels like a woman that day or is might be wearing a dress, right?
But but still, why go in and go to the hassle of sitting down?
Talking about the bathroom here.
Well, I'm uh I'm sorry, I misunderstood.
I really thought it was about protecting.
I'm told every day how predatory men are with women.
There's a rape culture out there on college campuses, folks.
Have you missed that?
There's a massive rape culture out there.
I mean, women are getting raped left and right, and it doesn't happen out in public.
Had you heard that?
Have you heard about this rape culture?
You know, Rolling Stones written about it, all kinds of respected uh leftist cultural savvy uh publications are written about this.
So I I simply thought this was about protecting people.
I little did I know that it's the sign that offends people, and that we have to take the signs down.
And I I uh penis and two testicles and you feel like a woman, which means you want to go in to a bathroom with no sign on the door so you can sit down.
Fine, I apologize.
I didn't know.
I'll tell you something else I have learned today after take a couple of I'll tell you this open line Friday stuff.
It works some days, folks.
It really works.
And I I think I may learn more on some open line Fridays, even on Thursdays, than I learned Monday through Thursday.
And what I learned here today is that we have to abandon all of our positions if we are ever going to attract people to our side.
Because if we broadcast or announce our positions, we're offending a large part of the voting block.
Whatever.
Like if we're on taxes, if we tell people that what are whatever we're for, that's gonna offend a lot of people.
We should just shut up about what we think about taxes so as not to offend people.
And whatever we think about whoever uses bathrooms for what reaches, shut up about it because the people that don't want signs on the bathroom doors are never gonna come to our side if if if we know we want to attract them to our side.
We want to attract them to vote for us by abandoning everything we believe in, or at least not broadcasting what we believe in.
That's the only way to attract them.
I it might just be easier, folks, to join them rather than to go through the rigor having them join us.
I mean, if you're gonna shut up about what you believe, hoping that that attracts people to your side, why don't you just give up and join them?
Which is the more efficient of the two possibilities.
Do I need to explain this, or are you confused by what I'm saying?
Okay, let me see if I can make it even more because that's what I do here.
I make the complex understandable.
Okay, so let's let's take uh Republicans slash conservatives and let's take taxes just for an issue.
And let's suggest that taxes are too high and the IRS and the code are too complicated, and the government's taking way too much of what people are earning and ought not take as much.
Okay.
Well, by saying so, I am offending maybe many of the 94 million who aren't working who are depending on that money being sent to the government for their cable TV subscription and their cell phone service and all that.
So, in order not to make those people mad and hopefully have them join us and vote, I should not say what I'm for, tax-wise.
That way they won't be offended, and they might therefore be more prone to vote for the side I believe in.
Or would it not just be easier to become a Democrat and be in support of high taxes?
Which would be the more efficient way of being.
So you uh some of you callers today have given me quite a bit to uh think about.
Now, moving on to the RNC convention is down in Fort Lauderdale, Hollywood, Florida, Fort Lauderdale, and there's some confusion about what's going on down there, because it's the establishment.
And a lot of people think that what's going on is behind closed doors.
It's not.
There are TV cameras in there.
Like all the candidates went in there to make their case for RNC support.
Kasich went in there, and Ted Cruz went in there and Trump went in there.
Or representatives went in there to make their case.
And that's really what is gonna when this is all over at the end of the week, what what we're gonna find out after this is all over is is whether or not the RNC signs up with Trump or not.
Whether or not the establishment goes all in for Trump or not.
That that's but it's not going to be because of support or lack of support for any rules changes, because there can't be any of this convention.
This is a popular misunderstanding people have.
Only at the convention can the rules be changed.
And any rules changes are proposed and voted on by the actual delegates to the convention.
And, of course, the convention doesn't happen until July.
Okay.
So changing what's going on in Colorado, for example, can't Colorado can do it because it's a state issue.
That wouldn't that wouldn't come up.
But delegate apportion, first ballot, second, this kind of stuff, if if they want to change any of the voting procedures so forth, that has to happen at the convention.
But what is going to happen here?
Let me correct that that there is a rules committee here at the RNC, and they may make some suggestions today, but my point is whatever they come up with is not binding on the convention.
And that's that's really all you need to know.
That they probably will vote on rules changes or what have you.
But they're just suggestions.
Nothing can happen until the convention actually adopts them and votes for them, debates them and all that.
And normally that kind of stuff all happens before the convention, because we had a nominee before the convention, a nominee runs the convention most years.
But we're not gonna have a nominee.
Well, we meant have a nominee by the end of June or middle of June, but we're not gonna we don't have a nominee now.
So it may be that we don't have a nominee until the convention, at which time somebody has to run that convention, and it can't be the nominee because we don't know who it is.
Normally the nominee Chosen in March, April as a result of the primary process, then Grabs control of the convention and puts it together in his image what he wants it to be.
That's not happening this year.
So that's why what's the RNC meeting down in Fort Lauderdale right now is being paid a lot of attention.
But what comes out of their rules-wise will not be binding, but it will give us an indication of what's the how how accepting of the inevitability of a Trump nomination will the official RNC show signs of accepting.
Let's go to the audio sound bites in this regard.
And again, this is gonna add up into my see I told you so column.
Last night on Bloomberg televisions, with all due respect, Steve Schmidt, Republican establishment extraordinaire.
He's a consultant, he ran the McCain campaign, for example, 2008.
He is Republican established, he's I mean card-carrying member.
And during a discussion on with all due respect last night about the primary race, John Heilman said, Look, is Mitt Romney right that the uh the fact this is a three-person race, that there's been a split in the never Trump world, the anti-Trump vote.
Is that part of why Donald Trump's going to get to 1,237?
No one is saying in public what people say privately about Donald Trump and the Republican establishment and leadership.
And I think that speaks to why that movement is so weak.
What are they saying privately?
Well, they're saying privately is he's unfit to be president of the United States and they'll never vote for him.
He's unfit psychologically, he's unfit temperamentally, he's unfit ideologically, but no one is making that argument publicly.
You have Steve Schmidt, Republican establishment extraordinaire, he's talking about establishing members and what they're saying privately.
You know what the bottom line is?
They are having a cow in Fort Lauderdale.
They are, they never thought last week, two weeks ago, three weeks, they were holding out hope that something would happen.
That Trump would implode.
They've been hoping that since last July.
And now it looks like there's no stopping Trump, even though he needs 63% of the delegates, uh, there's nobody that's gonna be even close to Trump when we get to the convention, even if he doesn't have 1237.
So they're just now facing the reality that there isn't gonna be any implosion, there isn't gonna be any white knight that comes along and saves a day.
And they are in abject panic.
I'm just telling you, they are having cows.
Schmidt here is talking about the establishment when he says what they're saying privately is they'll never vote for him.
I told everybody this and want to take issue with me the last couple days, but Schmidt's admitting it now.
Mark Halpern said, Look, if if somebody gave you, Steve Schmidt, somebody gave you a hundred million dollars to stop Trump, what would you spend it on?
You would try to stop him on temperament issues.
The most powerful political ad in American history was the Daisy ad in 1964 against LBJ, running against Barry Goldwater.
I had using images of the North Korean leader, mushroom clouds, the instability of the world, notions of late night tweeting, you'd make a temperament and character attack, and you'd remind people that the president of the United States is the most powerful person in the world, he is commander-in-chief of the most potent military in the world that possesses the weapons to extinguish life on the planet as we know it.
What do you take from that answer?
What do you take from that?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, of course not.
No, no, no, no.
The question.
What I take from the question is if you had a hundred million dollars to spend to stop Trump, how would you spend it?
And this guy had an answer without having to stop to think about it.
He didn't say, oh, gee, what uh uh well, he had the answer, which tells us they've got the answer, which tells us how they're gonna go about this, even if he is the nominee.
He's unfit, he's psychologically unfit.
We're gonna see ads comparing him to Kim Jong-un.
We're gonna see pictures of an insane Trump tweeting at 3 a.m. getting even He just spelled out what we might see even the Democrats use.
That was so telling.
I mean, that question now maybe look at these guys are all friends.
Maybe Mark Halperin told Schmidt he was gonna ask him the question yesterday, gave him a day to prepare the answer.
I don't know.
But from the from all appearances, he asked, okay, I'm gonna give you a hundred million dollars to spend it.
Stop Trump, I gotta spend it.
Not one moment's hesitation, not one stutter.
Which tells me they've been thinking about that for a long, which we know, but the specificity of this.
Yeah.
Who cares?
You're missing the point whether or not it would work.
You know, some days I just don't leave.
I'm wasting my time.
Jeremiah, 29 years old in Galina, Texas, uh, Kansas.
Great to have you on the program, sir.
Hello.
Uh yeah, great to be here, Rush.
I just want to say thank you for having me.
I'm I'm really nervous talking to you because it's first time call.
But I wanted to say that, you know, in response to that caller that was on just a few minutes ago, some things are worth fighting for.
You know, I would never let my child go to the restroom at a young age by herself, or my son who was just born whenever he's even old enough to walk.
I would never let them go to the restroom by themselves.
I'd always be their protector.
But you know, the thing is is there's gonna come a time whenever I'm not gonna be able to protect them anymore.
Whenever I'm gonna say, you know, you're you're five, six years old, yeah, you can go use the bathroom.
And you know, I don't want to have to worry about at that time.
Hey, is is there someone in there that you know might not be up in the up and up and then beyond that, you know, I just I don't think it's wrong for you to take up this fight and and let people know that you're being polarized.
You know, with with Trump saying the things he said, hey, it's okay, let's just look the other way.
I you know, I say that against Trump.
You know, I'm not a Trumpist.
I I think that he's a little bit too aggressive and and definitely too far to the left to uh lead the Republican Party.
But you know, I'm I'm a middle right guy, and the thing is is with with Cruz, I I'm I'm a cruise fan.
But it's just because he wants to stick to the Constitution.
He wants to stick to what's right, you know, keeping our family safe and and making the way of life the best they can be.
And you know, I just this is one final thought I had if you'll hear me here is you know, p politics are about finding what matters to you and what's real but what's reliable, you know, how does it affect your life?
How you know if people speak up about things whenever it matters to them, and you know, my family and my my family's way of life is what matters to me, you know.
So all those things are being threatened right now, and the fight that you lead every day is just wonderful.
And I wanted to say thank you.
You know, you're doing remarkably well.
You didn't sound nervous at all.
Oh, I'm I'm shaking I'm shaking on the phone.
Uh no joke.
I I took the time whenever I was on hold to uh write down my thoughts so I wouldn't be too scrambled, but you know, I Well, whatever you did at work is you didn't sound scrambled at all.
You said cogent.
You got in there, you got it, you got out, your timing was great, everything about it was perfect.
Yeah, well, I just you know, my there's one person in my life that means that made an impression on me more than anything, and that was my grandmother.
You know, the greatest Christian woman you would ever come to meet.
I I love her to this day, but you know, she'd be ashamed of the rot and the fact the way the culture's moving, and it's just okay.
You know, it's just okay.
Uh yeah, you know, let's not fight that fight, let's not stand up.
Right.
Let's just let it go, but it's just not right.
You know, you at some point.
Well, that's what I say if if you if you adopt that about everything that's gonna be controversial, and uh you may as well just shut up and let everybody come to you.
Amazing how that works.
Thank you.
Jeremiah, be back in a sec.
A religious organization, it's San Francisco.
This is CBS News, by the way, CBS Eyeball News Bay area.
Religious organizations filed a lawsuit against the city of San Francisco to remove an open-air urinal it calls unsanitary and indecent.
Want it removed from a there's a it's a popular park.
The Chinese Christian Union of San Francisco filed a civil Complaint last week demanding the city remove the concrete circular urinal from Dolores Park.
The uh the group says the urinal, which is out in the open, so it doesn't need a sign, so it can't discriminate.
Uh this urinal out in the open screened only with plants for privacy.
Uh causes offensive odors, uh, has no hand washing facilities, and quote, in the lawsuit says it's offensive to manners and morals.
Who do they think they are?
Manners and more?
Who w what makes them think that matters anymore?
So apparently you got this giant circular urinal out there in Dolores Park, and there's only shrubbery around it, and it's uh public urine will go in there.
Uh it's out in the open.
The only thing shielding it is that uh the bushes.
And then there's uh no sink to wash your hands or any of that.
No ventilation except the open air.
And I guarantee you the Chinese Christian Union of San Francisco is probably gonna be called a bunch of bigoted hate mongers.
Because when you gotta go, you gotta go.
The open-air urination hole violates the privacy of those who need to use the restroom, but will be required to expose their bodies and suffer shame and degradation of urinating in public view, says the lawsuit.
The city attorney's office, San Francisco said in a statement that it will defend against this lawsuit, and they pointed out that the 16-acre park is well known for its counterculture for its immodest sunbathers, for the pot brownie vendors, spectacular city views, and famously irreverent hunky Jesus contest.
So in no way is the city of San Francisco, they're gonna fight this.
They want the open-air urinal in iconic Dolores Park because it's well known for its counterculture, immodest sunbathers, i.e.
nude for those of you in Rio Linda.
The marijuana brownie cellars, uh great city views while you urinate.
Nowhere else in the city can you see the city the way you see it when you're urinating, as in the open air urinal, and this is city's position.
The office said residents advocated for the facility, calling it I can't say this.
I can't say this.
You know what the city is calling this thing?
A pissois.
They're calling it it like the boudoir, like bedroom.
The pissois P-I-S-S-O-I-R, the pissois, and it's to stop people from urinating on the walls.
San Francisco apparently cannot stop people from urinating on the walls and in bushes on the sidewalk, so they built this open-air hole in the ground.
And they're calling it the pissois.
And it is a French term.
Like the bidet, like the boudoir, the pissois.
You think you're gonna stop them using bathrooms?
No signs on the door.
Okay, back to the audio sound basically before we get back to the phones.
I've got to play uh uh Chris Starwolf.
I just this is gonna back up something I said earlier about what's going on here at the Republican Florida convention.
He was on with Meghan Kelly last night, and she said, Chris, what is the mood there at the Republican convention going on in Florida?
What's happening is the Republican Party is freaking out.
A collective freak out is taking place because they're afraid of their convention, they're afraid of getting slaughtered in the fall, and they are running for life rafts.
They're looking for a way out of it.
The campaigns are here trying to reassure them and tell them it's possible.
Right, but they're worried because I think Trump's gonna be it, and they think they're gonna lose in a massive landslide.
And the convention is gonna be a debacle, and that they're gonna be a laughing stock, and they don't want to be any part of it.
I I know this is this is some of them, not all, but some of them have do have this fear.
Pat Buchanan uh was on with Lou Dobbs on Fox last night.
And Dodd said, Look, you you talked in your most recent column about the GOP risking suicide here.
Do you believe the elites are going to at least at some point come to their senses and acknowledge that Trump is the front runner and begin a healing process and move towards unity with Trump?
I think the elites are almost out of the game.
I would really admonish Paul Ryan to take a look at one example.
Back in 1964, when Goldwater won the nomination, Rockefeller and Romney and Scranton, they all cut him the goodbye and good luck.
And two people went out for Goldwater all over the country that year.
Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan.
And the future belonged to them for standing by someone they knew was going down to defeat.
If I were Paul Ryan, and he's obviously got a future in the party, I would say, look, I'm going to support the nominee of this party and go out work for him because I'm the leader of the forces on Capitol Hill.
So Buchanan's point is he's using 64, and the reason he's using 64, a substantive, but the the the establishment, 1964.
That's what's the term?
Waterloo.
That's what and and they anything, any nominee that is conservative is going to equal Goldwater.
Any nominee that is not one of the establishment equals Goldwater.
And what is Goldwater?
Embarrassing, shall wacking landslide defeat.
And so they live in perpetual fear that that's going to repeat.
Buchanan's saying, well, look, Goldwater happened, and there are two guys that stood by Goldwater.
Everybody knew Goldwater was going to lose because nobody was going to beat the Democrat after the Kennedy assassination.
It didn't matter.
They knew he was going to lose, but they knew it was the beginning of a new movement of Republican Party, and it was Nixon and Reagan that probably you know Nixon went to more states for Goldwater than Goldwater went to.
Did you know that?
In 1964, Nixon campaigned in more states, and he ended up being elected president later on in his life after coming back from what they thought was lifetime defeat.
And Reagan ended up being elected president in 1980 for sticking with so Buchanan's theory is you Republicans, you may see a debacle, but if you want to have a future in the Republican Party, you better stick with it this time around.
That's his that's his point.
I don't think they're going to listen to Pat Buchanan.
I just say that that's his uh his advice.
Here's Dave in Binghampton in New York.
Great to have you on the program, sir.
Hello.
Yes, hello, Rush.
Uh, thanks for the many years of wisdom.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you, sir, very much.
Look, uh I I have a comment on the uh the so-called rigged delegate system here.
Uh if you are allowed to go into a state and woo delegates after they are selected, that's fine.
But if you're allowed to go into a state and be part of the process and actually have input on who is selected as a delegate, that's rigged.
Sorry to say.
And I'm asking you, do you know?
Are they allowed to do that?
I have yes, they are.
I've just had an another moment of enlightenment here.
I can't thank you enough, Dave, for helping me to understand.
We had a caller yesterday to open my eyes about something, and you've done so too.
So if d just to make sure I understand that what your point is, your point is that they have the primary, the primary comes and goes, but then later, weeks or a month later, the convention comes where at the convention the actual delegates are chosen.
You think candidates should stay out of that process until the candid till the delegates are chosen and then go in and woo them.
Correct, sir.
I mean, he is the senator of Texas.
He is not part of Colorado.
He is not part of Wyoming.
He shouldn't be able to be involved in that process.
It should be a state thing, and then he should be allowed and go and talk to whoever he wants.
But that would be fair.
No, but see, th they are, contrary to what the Trumpists are saying, these are elections.
In not not every delegate, some are appointed, but of the delegates that are elected, they are elected at conventions and they campaign, and it's not illegal for candidates to go in there and try to see to it that people supportive of their candidacy get chosen as delegates.
It's perfectly legal.
It's smart, and it's exactly how it has always been done.
But these are not, remember now, this is second and third ballot uh ballot delegates.
These these for the most part, it's not case in every state, of course, but for most cases, these delegates are pledged to vote the way the people voted in the primary on the first ballot.
So this is this is simply trying to marshal as much support for your candidacy.
I mean, this is a presidential campaign.
These delegates are being chosen to go to a national convention.
Okay.
And Cruz is a candidate for the presidency, and he and all the other candidates are free to go in there and try to get as many of their supporters elected as delegates as they want to.
But but anyway, I now I've had fur you have helped me to understand why the Trumpists are so mad at why they think this is cheating.
Because you think that the election is being tampered with by virtue of Cruz going in there trying to influence the outcome.
It's no different than Cruz campaigning in New York trying to win the New York primary.
It's just that the people he's campaigning with are delegates rather than voters, but they end up being voters.
But I now see how how many people on Trump's side think this is cheating, that you should wait for the state convention to choose the delegates.
Well, who do you think at every state convention you're going to have people for Trump and for Cruz and for Kasich, and you might have some still for Rubio or what have you.
And they're within their own convention.
Don't think for a moment that there isn't any electiering going on at these party conventions.
The people that run the Republican Party from the establishment, for example, Etsy state conventions are doing everything they can.
I guarantee you to have delegates chosen that are not for Trump.
Because they don't want any part of Trump, so Cruz is in there trying to take advantage of that.
It's there's all kinds of electioneering going on at every one of these state conventions.
Everybody wants as many delegates as they can get.
But we're talking second and third ballot, the first ballot with rare exceptions, the delegates have to vote the way the people voted in the primary.
Which is why everybody's saying there's no violation of the Democrat process taking place here, even in Colorado, no matter how you slice it.
Quick question, snurredly, will Trump walk back his LGBT comments?
He will not.
Donald Trump got 642 total votes in a New York district and won three delegates.
Is that fair?
Try this.
Trump got fewer votes in New York than Ted Cruz got in Wisconsin and got what, 55 more delegates.
Is that fair?
Trump got fewer votes in New York than Ted Cruz got in Wisconsin.
And Trump ended up with many more.
Trump only won 60% of the vote in New York and got 95 delegates.
95% of the delegates.
Is that fair?
It's rigged primaries, man.
You just can't trust him.
Alan and Charlotte, you've got a good point here.
I wanted to get you on before we had to go.
What is it?
Well, Rush, I just wanted to make clear the fact that the Donald is making issue statements about not having all the information here in Charlotte.
The city council was hijacked by the LGBT community, and they changed the law for non-discrimination, opening up the bathroom portion of the law.
Right.
And now he makes a statement that we should keep it the same.
Well, it was changed, and now we got to fight.
Yeah, here's the point.
This is this is a good point.
It's a good point.
What what Alan is saying here is they had laws in in North Carolina for bathrooms, men's room, women's room, and so forth.
And LGBT activist, actually North Carolina, I think it was a a a noted sex Offender.
An accused sex offender convicted pushed the change in the law to where there are essentially no signs, and anybody can use any bathroom anytime at all based on how they feel, how they want to present, or what have you.
And he says that Trump's argument today was they should just leave it the way it was.
And Alan's point, the way it was was perfectly fine until some political agitators came along and activated for the change to accommodate them.
And if the argument is going to be to leave it the way it was, the way it was was the way it was for decades.
Centuries, if you will.
So, Alan, I'm glad that you were able to get that in using brevity.
Appreciate it.
We got to take a timeout and come back and wrap it up after this.
Thank you so much for being with us today, folks, and thanks, all of you wonderful callers that opened my mind on so many things today that helped me see things in a new light, ways than I was not seeing them.
I very much appreciative of that.
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