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Feb. 1, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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February 1, 2016, Monday, Hour #3
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And what our last caller was trying to point out, he was saying that, and he's obviously a Trumpster, so he's speculating, he's hoping, he's hoping that Trump wins big.
He's hoping that Trump wins by bigger margins than whatever predicted by the polling here in Iowa, then in New Hampshire.
And if the polls are right, guy making his wish, but we won't know for a while.
So his theory is, his hope is that if that happens, that if Trump ends up scorching the field, that that is going to bring a bunch of Democrats over because everybody wants to be part of what's happening now.
Everybody wants to be part of what's winning.
But his theory is the Democrats will never say so in polling.
He said, no, because the Democrats, the voters are going to assume that all pollsters are Democrats.
So when they call or their computers call and ask them for their preference, they're all going to say Hillary or Bernie, whoever the Democrat nominee is.
But his theory is that if Trump wins big, that that's going to automatically attract a lot of Democrats, but we won't know it until Election Day, just like we didn't know that Ronaldus Magnus was going to win in a landslide really until that night.
Do you realize the last serious, credible poll one week before the election had Jimmy Carter winning by eight in 1980?
And that election was over before the polls closed in California.
Jimmy Carter conceded, said, nomas, nomas, before they'd even shut down in California.
47 state landslide and in 49 states in 1984 running against Walter Mundo.
So, I mean, nobody knows that, of course.
That was just a Trump voter speculating and hoping.
You know, I made a point earlier in the program, speaking of Reagan.
I want to repeat this because I think it's fundamentally important as all of you prepare in Iowa to go caucus.
You know, something else I'm going to go against my instincts here, and I'm going to share with you some of the details of the analysis of the latest Des Moines Register poll because some analysts think that it's seriously flawed because it's projected a way too high turnout.
The problem is there's a lot of numbers and numbers are hard to follow on the radio, but I'm going to endeavor to do this.
But I want to repeat something I said early on.
We've had a lot of people on the Republican side, not just in this campaign, but for the last number of years, urge the party to get rid of Reagan.
The most recent was a young guy saying, you know, this Reagan fetish that the Republican Party has, we've got to drop it.
We've got to get past it.
You know, Reagan era, it's long gone.
It's over with.
We never hear the Democrats say the era of FDR is over or the JFK era is over or they never throw any of their ex-presidents overboard.
They don't even throw Jimmy Carter overboard.
But we do.
We've got the Republican establishment.
Let's get rid of Reagan.
But look at this primary.
We have a really great field of Republican candidates seeking the Republican nomination.
And many of them are direct descendants of Ronald Reagan.
And by that, I mean they are the result of the influence of the Reagan presidency, Reagan himself and the Reagan years.
Bobby Jendel, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Scott Walker, before he dropped out of the race.
I would even throw Ben Carson in this mix in the sense that these are young men.
These are all great people.
Ted Cruz is not a nasty guy, and he's not heartless.
I've got the most fascinating piece here about Cruz, by the way.
I would love to be criticized the way this piece criticizes Ted Cruz.
He's steady.
He's solid.
He's dependable.
He's always of good nature.
This is a piece where he's being criticized for this because nobody thinks it's real.
No matter how much pressure he's under, he's got to smile for you.
No matter how much pressure he's under, how many different directions being tugged.
He's the Ted Cruz you know and expect, never gets mad, never loses his temper, never snaps with people that anybody sees.
This piece is written as a criticism in the sense it's just not, this is not the way people are.
Nobody can do this all the time.
And it's like saying nobody can be a nice guy all the time.
But whatever anybody says or whatever you think, Cruz is not nasty and he's not heartless.
It's the exact opposite in both cases because he's a conservative.
Conservatives are not nasty people and they certainly are not mean-spirited or heartless.
This is one of the biggest ruses that has ever been successfully played, and that is the characterization of conservatives as mean-spirited and heartless.
They have the biggest hearts of anybody around.
They want the best for everybody.
Look at, I am a conservative, and I can speak for every conservative I know here.
We love people and we want the best for everybody.
And we want everybody to be responsible for being the best.
We want, what's a phrase running around?
Now, there's a phrase that runs around now in the New Age community called, I want to be the best version of myself.
Have you heard that said on TV and so forth?
Well, you can smirk at it all you want, but conservatism is what makes that possible.
Conservatism is what makes you be.
Liberalism doesn't.
Liberalism doesn't believe in you.
Liberalism and liberal people do not think that you have the ability to be your best.
That's why you need them.
You need them spending your money for you because you won't do it the right way.
You need them figuring out where you're going to go to school, where you're going to work, because you won't make the right decision.
You need them supporting you financially because you're not capable.
They have to believe this in order to make themselves feel necessary and facilitate their acquisition of power.
The liberal desire for power is rooted in a contempt of the average person and the belief that average people are incompetent and incapable.
That makes them victims.
And they are victims of what?
Mean-spirited and cold-hearted Republicans.
It's just freaking lie.
Conservatives happen to have the biggest hearts of anybody I know.
They're the most charitable.
They're the most desirous of people literally doing well.
Conservatives I know love sharing the things that they love and they love sharing their passions and they want everybody to be happy.
And they believe that everybody has it in them to be better than what they think they can be.
It's the other guys that don't believe that in people.
It's the other guys that want you to believe in yourself as a victim with no chance unless somebody's looking out for you who really doesn't even know you or care about you, except when it's time to count votes.
Marco Rubio, you know, as I mentioned one day last week, I know all of these people, Donald Trump, Rubio, Cruz, Dr. Carson, I've met them all.
And the unabashed, undeniable young conservatives that are seeking the Republican nomination, they're direct descendants of Ronald Reagan.
They are what they are because they came of age and believed during the Reagan presidency.
And they saw what great times this country had.
And they want that again.
They want it for everybody.
They remember how it happened in the 1980s.
And it's not nostalgia.
It's an understanding of what works and what doesn't.
There are certain things that are timeless.
There are certain institutions, manners, good manners, behavioral traits, whatever.
There's certain things that are true no matter what era you put somebody in.
And conservatism is one of those things.
It's not tied to a specific era.
It's not tied to specific events.
It's a condition of the heart.
And these young guys, I say young guys because they're not, you know, their 40s and 50s.
They come from an era of greatness in this country that they lived and experienced.
In Rubio's case, it was the Reagan era that allowed his family, escape Cuba, come to this country, and for him to become a senator in the United States of America.
His father was a bartender.
John Kasich's dad was a mailman.
You know the drill.
And it's This tremendous opportunity.
And here's the first day.
This is the first day people are going to have a chance to actually go out and do something that's not responding to a poll or getting caught up in outside extraneous influences.
Now, a caucus is not as private as a vote.
It's all kinds of arm twisting and pressure that goes on in there.
This is where you go in and you tell people who you're for, and some say, great, great.
And others try to talk you out of it, try to talk you into their guy.
And it can go on for a period of time.
There's nothing really private about it, which makes it obviously different from other primaries where there were votes.
Now, on the Democrat side, old Bernie, old Bernie's getting suspicious.
Bernie has heard that Hillary's going to do what Obama did in 2008, and that is bus in a bunch of people that are not even from Iowa.
You remember Obama did that?
Well, Bernie, he thinks Hillary's going to do the same thing.
And guess what?
Grab Sound by 22.
Old Bernie now has decided that he flubbed it back in the first debate when he said this Hillary email thing is nothing and should go away.
Crazy Bernie changed his mind on that.
This is go back to October 13th at a Democrat debate in Las Vegas.
And Bernie and Hillary had this little back and forth.
Let me say something that may not be great politics, but I think the Secretary is right.
And that is that the American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails.
Thank you.
Well, enough of the emails.
Let's talk about the real issues facing America.
But, but since then, since October, the news on Hillary's emails, it just gets worse every week and in some cases by the day.
And it is really bad now.
It is so bad now that there are serious ranking Democrats that are scared to death that there's no way something doesn't come of this.
It's gotten to the point where it's so big they don't know how the Justice Department can just sweep it away and not do anything with it.
And old Bernie has figured that out now.
And here he is yesterday on Meet the Press, F Chuck Todd with the question, the latest revelations about Secretary Clinton are emails.
Do they give you personally any hesitation about her electability or about her honesty?
I've been asked every day, you know, by the media, attack Hillary Clinton, attack Hillary Clinton.
What I have chosen to do in this campaign is to focus on the issues facing working families and the middle class and not make personal attacks against Hillary Clinton.
You know, I think this is a serious issue.
He's changed his mind, but he just can't pull the trigger and go all the way.
Because Bernie, you know, what is he, 74?
He likes walking.
Bernie Sanders likes to walk.
So he's not going to go all in on this, but he's done these as a very, very serious issue.
Here's Anne Ren Mitchell, NBC News in Washington on the Today Show today, and a report about Hillary Clinton and her campaign overall.
Clinton is counting on older women in the past, her most loyal supporters.
But this time, even some women have Clinton fatigue.
Ultimately, it's not just being the first woman that we need one.
It's being the right president at the right time.
And the Clinton team has gone high-tech with a new app to spot precincts where they can take delegates from Sanders by steering voters to the third candidate, Martin O'Malley.
Right, right, right.
So Hillary's bleeding out there, folks.
She's bleeding women.
She's bleeding voters.
She's bleeding.
I'm telling you, they are very worried wherever the deep, dark crevices of Democrats gather in, wherever they are.
They're worried that there's nothing they can do.
There isn't anybody.
They're really worried.
We got a brief time out.
We'll come back.
And your phone calls resume after this, folks.
So be patient.
Hey, guess what?
Cookie in the grooveyard of Forgotten Soundbuds, she found those two bites of me on a news hour with Jim O'Lara.
And I'd forgotten it was Jim O'Reilly in New York that interviewed me with Judy Woodruff on the set, but she was not part of it.
She was just, she talked to me when it was over, and it was nice.
But it's from 1992, and it was my first such TV.
I mean, I think I'd been on local TV profiles, but it was my first such appearance in 1992.
Well, we'll play those before the program ends.
I do want to get back to the phones.
This is Mary Jo in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Great to have you.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
Thank you for taking my call.
I'm calling because I am a Christian and I'm a conservative.
I became eligible to vote in 1988 and have voted in every presidential election since.
I held my nose and voted for McCain and Romney, even though I knew they did not share my conservative perspective.
But if Donald Trump wins the nomination this year, it will be the first time in 30 years that I will not vote in a presidential nomination, in a presidential election.
And I've actually talked with a number of people where I haven't given my perspective, but they have said the same thing to me.
And so I think that Donald Trump has a real problem if he wins the nomination because Ronald Reagan won 49 states with Christians conservatives.
And Romney lost without them.
But I did vote for Romney.
McCain lost without them, even though people like me did.
But I think that Trump is not going to get the people that didn't.
Why, wait a minute, now he got the endorsement of Jerry Falwell Jr. out there who's been running around on the trail with him all over Iowa.
Yes, he did, but he did not get the endorsement by Tony Perkins.
He did not get the endorsement of that large group of women pro-lifers.
He did not get the Cheap Party Patriots.
I think that I've heard someone call Jerry Falwell's son a cheap date, and I think that that might be unreasonable.
Oh, really?
That's what I've heard.
I didn't say it myself.
No, I did not think that his perspective on why he voted for it, why he's endorsing him, comes from a conservative perspective.
Right, right.
Well, you really won't vote.
So you would be in that group of 60% who view Trump unfavorably out there.
Yes, Rush, I vote.
I base my vote on integrity, consistency, principles, policy, and the Constitution.
And really, on all of those, he does not have integrity in my eyes.
He's not been consistent, that's for sure.
Well, who do you like?
Universal health care.
Who do you like?
I like Ted Cruz, but I would vote for a large number of any of the other Republican candidates.
But I won't vote for Donald Trump.
And I'm sorry to say that.
As I said, I voted in every election since I became eligible.
So are you comfortable with the possibility that you taking that course of action along with the others that are like you, effectively electing Hillary Clinton and thus continuing the current policies of the current regime, which are destruction of the United States?
You're content to let that happen.
I hate to say it, but I am.
But just as you said earlier today, Rush, and you've said it over and over, universal health care puts our very lives in the hands of the government.
And once they have that control of us, it's all over.
So if Donald Trump is in favor of universal health care, which he is, he has said it.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Wait a minute.
Now he went out there and it was originally reported he said it for single payer and then they walked that back that he didn't actually say that.
It's the way he went after Ted Cruz again as being heartless and letting people die on the streets that has made people think that because that's the way liberals talk about conservatives.
That they're heartless and mean-spirited and don't care if people die.
And I can tell you that that's not who Ted Cruz is.
Ted Cruz doesn't want people to die on the street.
I got news for you.
They already are under the Democrats, folks.
I've got a story here about it's Super Bowl week in San Francisco, even though the game's going to be played 41 miles south.
The media is headquartered in San Francisco.
They're not happy about it because the action's 41 miles away.
But anyway, the story is homelessness and what they're doing about the homeless.
There's a huge homeless problem in San Francisco.
A liberal mecca.
And the mayor is talking about sweeping them out of the way and moving them out of the way.
It's talking about people who don't care about them.
He's talking about people cold-hearted and heartless to people.
The homeless, you consider giving a guy a shopping cart and you want credit for having a big heart?
Save me.
Don't embarrass me.
That's ludicrous.
It's those guys.
And we're back.
Okay, do we have, they didn't print out, so grab soundbites, the number, let me see what they are here.
27 and 28.
This is back on 1992, I'm gonna get the exact date over here.
It is March 13th, 1992.
This is me on the news hour with Jim Lara.
He's actually doing the interview.
He was in Washington.
Judy Woodruff was in New York, but she was seated next to me, but she was not part of the interview.
And it's about the House Bank scandal.
And they at PBS and everybody in Washington were very concerned.
Why does the country care about this?
I was on to explain, why is this such a big deal?
No big deal.
Why do you people out there care about this?
And this is just two soundbites, and here's the first.
Well, I really don't think it is, in a sense, it gives us an issue, but I think the thing that needs to be said about that, Jim, is that radio talk show hosts and radio talk shows don't invent emotion.
It was there.
I mean, the public is angry as they can be about this, and there's one good reason for it.
This is easy to understand.
This is something they can't do.
This is the epitome of arrogance.
This is the epitome of condescension.
And it just won't do, Congressman Fazio, to sit there and say that the people don't care about this, that they want you to sit there and do the work of the country.
You haven't been doing the work of the country.
When the work of the country gets done, it's by accident, not by design.
And it always seems to be wrong, and it seems to be screwed up.
And the people seem powerless to do anything about it.
It takes a simple issue like this, where you guys can go in and float loans to yourself, interest-free.
You sit there and say it's not taxpayer money.
It is all taxpayer money.
That's the point.
You guys are our employees, and you treat people in the country like we are your employees, and you're the boss.
And it just won't do anymore.
And I think that there's going to be much more of a change this fall than you or Speaker Foley seem to think.
I think the people out there are genuinely upset about this.
And this is the one issue that could be the one that causes a massive shift in seats.
And lo and behold, it did.
This is a prelude.
This is March 13th of 1992.
And the next bite, Jim Lara says, well, why this one?
The House Bank show.
Why is this so important?
Because, Jim, this goes to the root of life.
These are people who exempt themselves from laws they pass.
These are people who tell us that the tax cuts we got in the 80s are responsible for the deficit.
The deficit is the responsibility of the U.S. Congress.
They spend the money.
And they tell us that it's our fault because we got tax cuts that we didn't deserve, that the prosperity of the 80s was not justified and not warranted.
And so here come some people who say we need a pay raise.
They don't need a pay raise.
They can go to the bank and get a pay raise anytime they want, interest-free, and they don't have to pay it back.
And the problem here is that we found out about it.
That's me appearing on TV.
Sorry for the audio quality.
I don't know what our original source for this is.
Probably real-to-real audio cassette tape or some such thing.
Way, way back.
March 13th, 1992, news hour with Jim Lara.
And again, it's just an illustration of how things haven't changed.
They've only gotten worse.
And they've become cumulative.
And it's reached a point now where we elected people to change all this.
And we did over the years.
Republicans were given control they hadn't had in 40 years.
And especially in the last seven or eight, when there have been two demonstrative landslide midterm election results, nothing to show for it.
So it's, again, it's just a further illustration that all of this disgust is warranted and has been taken for granted.
So all this outsider versus insider elites versus the rabble, it all makes total sense.
Here's David in Louisville.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hello, Rush.
Great to talk to you again.
I appreciate you taking my call.
You bet, sir.
Just got two quick questions for you, if you don't mind.
And by the way, Rush, not mad at you, I promise.
Just full disclosure, I'm a Trump supporter, but I'm going to pick up for Cruz here.
I'd just like to know, given Megan Kelly's admitted dishonesty in the debate with Cruz, do you still think she's not a bad person?
Now, wait.
David said she wasn't a bad person and that she's a professional.
Oh, I did say she's what which dishonesty are you talking about?
The first debate?
No, the most recent debate where she called out Cruz and then after the debate, I'm referencing the Greg from Oakmont, California phone call, where he pointed out that she admitted she was wrong after the debate when nobody was watching.
This was the issue about amnesty, where she admitted afterwards that he was right about it.
When I said that she's a good person, I'm talking about my personal interactions with her.
And she's, I've, I can't say that I know her.
She's not a close circle of friends.
We don't live anywhere near each other.
But I've been with her enough.
She doesn't target people.
She's trying to forge her own path in her career.
She's a journalist, and there's certain things that journalists have to do there.
I'm not defending that.
She goes after Cruz.
She went after Trump.
I think when you get right down to it, if you want to know that what I think is the bottom line, I think Fox is burdened with this belief that everybody in the media thinks they're conservative, and they don't want to be thought of that way.
So they will purposely hit conservatives hard to show that they are not friends and not biased in favor of conservative.
It's no different than the way the Republican Party tries to constantly prove they're not the mean guys the Democrats say.
Many conservative journalists, it's not just Fox, many conservative journalists will do and say things hoping to not be criticized as partisan by their brothers and sisters in the drive-by media.
And I don't think it's any more complicated than that.
But she can still be a good person even after doing the things that she's done with Trump or Cruz.
Those are professional.
I was speaking personally, and I was just trying to make the point here that she's not evil and she's not diabolical.
That was the only point that I was trying to make.
One last question, if you don't mind.
Sure.
This is regarding Trump, and he gets a lot of attacks for his past liberal positions.
And you've spent your entire career trying to persuade people toward conservatism.
Right.
And I find that a lot of his detractors call him a liar for flip-flopping to conservative positions.
And I just find it interesting that we spend so much time trying to persuade people to convert to conservatism.
And then when one guy says he did convert, we call him a liar.
Well, who is we?
By we, I mean people on the conservative side who say that he is not really a conservative because of his past positions.
They're saying he flip-flops.
Yeah, okay, okay.
Well, and there are a decent number of those out there.
You're right.
There are a decent number.
What's the point of arguing conservatism if we're going to call somebody a liar just when they say they conservatively?
Well, I think it's rooted in the fact that they don't think Trump's conversion is legit, that he's just saying these things.
And they think that he gives it away with momentary slip-ups that indicate that he hasn't really converted to anything.
I don't see any guile in him.
The very fact that he says what's on his mind, even to his own detriment, the kinds of things like that, tells me that he doesn't have guile.
Guile defined as deceit?
Yeah, and he's not a slick-harvard lawyer, so he says what's on his mind.
So he doesn't come across like he's hiding things.
Well, no.
No, in fact, I saw something.
I didn't actually see this.
So I have to add a caveat here that what I read might not have actually portrayed this accurately.
But it was a story on a CNN reporterte named Allison Camerada.
And this report said that Allison Camerana admitted that journalists are afraid of Trump destroying them if they criticize him.
They don't want to be called losers or whatever names he calls them.
So they go, they pull back on the criticism.
As I say, I didn't hear her say that.
I read some, I don't even remember where.
It was over the weekend that said that.
But that happens to be true of a lot of people who are afraid to criticize Trump because they don't want to be called this or that.
It's amazing how this, that's paralyzed the Republicans, vis-a-vis the Democrats, and it's paralyzing some people about Trump as well.
Anyway, David, I appreciate the call.
And I got to take a brief time out.
It's got a little long in this segment, folks, but we will be back, so don't go away.
And Ellie in North Royalton, Ohio, great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
It's a pleasure to speak to you.
Thank you.
I was told that you're running out of time, so I'll try to make my comment brief.
I watched the Sarah Palin interview this morning on the Today Show, and I realized more than ever that the mainstream media is out to embarrass and intimidate rather than report the news.
She believed she was on this show to talk about the caucus, and of course they brought up her son that was in the news recently.
And she handled herself dignified and professional.
And I think she left Matt Lauer and Savannah Guthrie sitting there with egg on their face.
Yeah, well, here's the thing.
In the pre-interview, and I say this, folks, you know that I have great respect for Mrs. Palin.
But she's got to know by now.
And I think she does.
The pre-interview is for them to find out what irritates you.
So if she asks them not to talk about her son, that's what they're going to talk about, especially if it's her, because they hate her.
They literally despise Sarah Palin at NBC and pretty much everywhere else.
And she knows this.
I think what she was doing, most guests will not call the show hosts out on something like this.
They'll just behave and live through it.
She was calling them out.
I didn't see it, so I don't know how upset she was, but I don't think she was surprised that she was calling them.
She was letting the audience know that they lied to her.
They assured her they wouldn't talk about her son and then did.
And I think it's her way of helping to expose the way these people treat her and conservatives in general.
Okay, again, pay attention to turnout tonight.
A lot of people talking revolution on the verge of taking place here.
See what the turnout is.
Des Moines Register poll indicates big, maybe record turnout, whether they intended to or not.
So we'll follow it.
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