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Jan. 26, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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January 26, 2016, Tuesday, Hour #2
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So everybody's asking me what's gonna happen.
You know, we've been running the Gore countdown clock at rushlimbaugh.com for 10 years.
It happens tomorrow, January 27th.
Al Gore said ten years ago that we had 10 years to save the planet, that if we didn't, that life on Earth would be totally unlike it was ten years ago.
And then guys like Larry David came along.
You know, Al, he's a funny guy, but when he gets serious, you have to listen, because Al's telling us that if we don't act on this, the earth is gonna become this giant skillet in ten years.
Well, here we are, ten years later, and nothing's changed.
It isn't any hotter than it was.
They're having to make excuses for the heat that never happened by claiming the ocean ate it.
Oh, yeah.
The ocean ate the heat.
It's way down there at 700 feet below the circle, 700 meters.
So that would be 21 almost a half a mile down there.
Um that's where all the heat is.
And it's gonna, it's gonna come bubbling up there, and it's gonna heat the salt water and the heat that the oceans ate is gonna heat up the salt water, and the salt water's gonna flood, and that's how we're gonna get the rising sea.
This was in all of the pro-global warming climate change analysis of last week.
So people say, what are you gonna do when the Al Gore clock hits zero?
And that's a surprise.
We're still working on that, folks.
One thing we never thought about until yesterday.
What do we do when the thing hits zero?
I mean, we started this ten years ago.
Who thinks ten years down the road, other than we knew that Gore was full of it, and then and that whatever he was saying wasn't going to happen, wasn't going to be true.
Anyway, great to have you back.
800 282-2882, if you want to be on the program, the email address, L Rushbow at EIB net.com.
Yeah, I've heard of the Planned Parenthood Stuart.
This is a fascinating thing it happened in Texas, in Houston.
And there may be a reason for this.
You remember all of those videos that were made in secret that were not edited, and they were not doctored in any way.
The full video, every full-length video was available at that group's website if you wanted to go look at it.
I mean, you could say ten years later and the East Coast just had its worst winter storm in what, 30 years?
However long it's been.
Anyway.
So the grand jury in Texas that was convened to hear evidence on what Planned Parenthood was doing in terms of chopping up babies and selling the parts for profit and so forth.
And lo and behold, at the end of the process, the two people that made the videos end up being indicted.
And they are indicted for crimes that could force them to see 20 years of jail time.
Now, I don't know if it's happened yet, but there wasn't any paperwork produced by the, I don't know what the DA now is the district attorney state, I don't know what they call it, but whatever, there was any paperwork produced to accompany the indictment, so we just had to go on what was said by the by the prosecutors.
But it's a really, really strange thing.
And I folks, the only thing that we have learned about what could have happened here, is I find it fascinating.
We talk about a grand jury yesterday in regards to the FBI investigation of Hillary, and how the FBI can't do anything.
They can recommend, but they can't charge, they can't arrest the uh Department of Justice, the U.S. attorney has to do all that on the recommendation of the FBI, and talking about how grand juries work and so forth.
So a grand jury's impaneled here to hear evidence against whatever planned parenthood was doing, and it turns out that the filmmakers, the video, the the journalists, if you will, End up being indicted.
And what has been learned is there is a member of the prosecutor's office.
It's the Harris County District Attorney, who's a Republican, by the way, name is Devin Anderson.
I think she's a I think I read that she's a Republican.
And this is the Center for Medical Progress.
They're the outfit that made the videos.
They end up being indicted.
And the left, I mean, you you they were having Shaden Freud yesterday, like you can't believe they were so excited, they thought this was justice.
Because you know, listen to them, these people made up the videos.
None of it really ever happened.
It was all doctored.
These people are intolerant, right wingers and so forth, and all of a sudden, out of nowhere, the evidence is presented in such a way that the journalists or the people who were acting as journalists have always acted, doing investigative pieces.
They end up being indicted.
And it turns out that there is a prosecutor in the Harris County DA's office named Lauren Reeder.
She's in the criminal family law division, and she is on the board of Planned Parenthood.
And she notified the DA, Devon Anderson, of her role with Planned Parenthood last week.
Long after the grand jury process had begun.
Devin Anderson, the prosecuting attorney in Harris County, Houston, told the Houston Chronicle that Lauren Reeder, prosecutor in her office, had a role with Planned Parenthood.
She was told that she would not be involved in any manner in the investigation.
The DA said if at any time in the future reliable and credible information is brought to my attention that would question our ability to continue to perform a fair, thorough independent investigation of this matter due to her board membership, then I will revisit the issue of seeking the appointment of an independent prosecutor and act accordingly.
Well, I I don't know.
My dad's a lawyer or was, and a lot of my family members are lawyers.
I've never heard of this.
I I've I've I've not heard of the the messengers being indicted for crimes when they have on tape Planned Parenthood talking openly, freely, and very positively about dissecting dead babies and selling the body parts.
The messengers, the people who uncovered this information end up being indicted.
It's hard to say something that's never happened before because that's just hard to say.
I mean, it did it's hard to find something, anything that's never happened before.
But man, this is a strange one.
I I I read this today.
I actually read it last night.
I said, this can't be.
There's something not being reported.
This doesn't make any sense.
They convene a grand jury in order to look into the potential criminal acts of people at Planned Parenthood, and at the end of the process, the grand jury says, you know what?
No, we don't think Planned Parenthood didn't, but these two people who made the videos, that's who we want to indict.
Go get them.
And so the DA says, oh, well, if that says who you want to indict, fine and dandy, then that's who we'll indict.
Now we don't know what goes on in grand jury rooms because it's by law secret.
But I this like a rogue grand jury.
Grand jury decided to take a road that the prosecutors did not convene them for, which they can do, I guess.
It just seems really peculiar, particularly to a novice, a layman like myself when it comes to intricate matters of the law.
I always have to seek uh expert guidance on things like this.
Because it's not my level of expertise.
Um, But it is for a lot of people I know.
So I'm in the process of trying to get learned opinion on this and whether or not this is unprecedented or how much precedence for something like this there might actually be, or how something like this can happen.
That's really what I'm interested in.
How behind the closed doors of the grand jury room does something like this happen.
So I have reached out to the legal beagles that I know.
When I get a response back, then I'll share it with you.
Now back to the Republican campaign.
I want to pick up again with Ted Cruz.
Three sound bites here, and then a reminder of the story running in the hill.com today about Donald Trump and his assurance on MSNBC today that he can work well with Democrats in the Senate.
He knows Harry Reid, he knows Pelosi, he knows Chuck Schumer.
It's not a problem he can work well with him.
Judging by my email, by the way, this is a red flag for a lot of people.
But anyway, here's Cruz.
This is yesterday in Cedar Rapids.
And he is it's a it's a it's a great campaign pitch, actually, for people on the fence, or people who are opposing Trump but may be thinking of voting for Rubio or for uh Rand Paul or uh Jeb, whoever.
This was Ted Cruz's message to them.
If Donald wins Iowa, he right now has a substantial lead in New Hampshire.
If he went on to win New Hampshire as well, there's a very good chance he could be unstoppable and be our nominee.
Even if you're thinking about another candidate, the simple reality is there is only one campaign that can beat Trump in this state.
And if conservatives simply stand up and unite, that's everything.
Now, by the way, about that last thing Cruz said, that I happen to know has been his guiding philosophy since he got into this race.
I had lunch with Ted Cruz a couple of years ago, during it was in November when uh David Horowitz has his thing here.
What's that called?
Restoration weekend?
It's restoration, not reformation, it's restoration.
Yeah, he's a bunch of people down there.
Come down to make speeches, people pay to come down here the speeches, spend the weekend at a resort hotel of breakers.
And I had lunch with Ted Cruz, and he was going on and on and on about if every conservative in this country was unified behind a candidate or an idea, that it would be unstoppable.
And he spelled out for me how he thought that could be made to happen.
And obviously, he wanted to play a role in it.
But he has believed that for as long as I've known it's I'm not I mean, I don't speak to him frequently, don't misunderstand.
I'm not trying to say we're buddy buddy.
I just did that lunch that we had, he made a big deal out of conservative unity.
The conservatives simply stand up and unite that there's nobody that can stop them.
And they don't.
I mean, conservatives are fractured like every other political group.
Now here's Trump.
Trump on MSNBC today said that he thought he's gonna be gonna be able to get along with Pelosi.
I'm gonna be able to get along with uh Harry Reed, although he's not gonna be there.
But I'm a great friends with Schumer, I'm able to get along with Schumer.
And he said this in the context of Cruz being a nasty guy.
Nobody likes Cruz, nobody's gonna be able to get anything done with Cruz.
If you guys elect Cruz, nothing's gonna happen because everybody hates Cruz.
They despise Cruz, they're really nasty guys, really nasty.
There's a lot of nasty things Trump says.
And nobody's gonna work with him.
It was in that context that Trump offers that he knows Democrats and can work with them.
So the context of this is Trump making this assertion about himself, comparing his abilities to the lack of abilities he claims Cruz would have.
A couple of audio soundbites on this.
Last night CNN situation room, Wolf Blitzer, said to uh said to Trump, you just posted a Facebook video where you say the establishment's against you.
Why do you say that?
I think the establishment actually uh is against me, but really coming online because they see me as opposed to Cruz, who is a nasty guy who can't get along with anybody.
We can't have a guy who stands in the middle of the Senate floor and every other senator Thinks he's a whack job, right?
You know, you have to make deals.
You have to get along.
That's the purpose of what our founders created.
And Ted cannot get along with anybody.
He's a nasty person.
Okay, so I think what's happening here.
So I don't believe Trump is ideological in in his decision making or even in his uh the formation of his uh principles.
Not everybody is.
It's one of my big frustrations, folks, as you well know, is that so many people are not.
I've I've I have waxed eloquent, I don't know how long if we could simply educate people to ideologically identify liberals, to understand them on the basis of ideology, that we can escape so much misery because they would never be elected.
The way the Democrats cover their ideological extremism is with compassion and tolerance and fairness and understanding.
And so people react to what they say, they react to their intentions and ignore the destruction that they bring.
And it's always been my belief that if you just get people to understand the ideology of liberalism, the ideology of conservatism.
It's not complicated.
What's a liberal?
What's a conservative?
Not what's a Democrat, what's a Republican.
What is a liberal?
What is a socialist?
What is a communist?
Not just by label, but what are they?
If we had and I blame the Republican Party for not pushing this distinction.
And the reason they don't is because they don't want to tout themselves as conservatives.
If we had some people proud to be conservatives, it'd be easy as pie to contrast ourselves with the left.
I don't think Trump is ideological either.
So here he is, he's up against it with Cruz.
And he's trying to sell himself over crews.
He's a nasty, he's a really nasty guy.
You see, Ned is a whack job.
And everybody in the Senate knows he's a whack job.
Nobody can get along with him.
You can't make deals if people hate you.
I know that.
That's why people love me.
I make deals with people all the time.
I can make deals with the Democrats.
He may not.
Well, I don't want to put words in his mouth.
I just, I'm, and I'm not going to try to make excuses for him.
I'm just telling you it's a red flag to a lot.
I don't want to work with Democrats.
I don't want anybody, they want people to smoke them.
They want people to cream them.
And want people are going to drive them into the ground and bury them and then hammer the political nails one after another and end this.
Not work with them.
Back in a second.
Let me uh let me share with you some analysis that will no doubt be misunderstood and distorted in many places in our media.
But here we go.
As I'm listening to Trump talk about all this, and not just today.
It is fascinating, is it not, that Donald Trump has sort of reframed or maybe even redefined the purpose and the position of the presidency as something defined by negotiating deals.
He talks about this all the time.
He is credibly, this is important.
He's credibly presenting himself as a skilled deal maker, as a skilled negotiator.
Therefore, he is positing here that the job of president to him is negotiating and deal making, foreign and domestic.
Trade equals deals, foreign policy equals deals, such as Iran, the entire Middle East.
Domestic policy equals deals, i.e., making them with Democrats.
And by all of those deals, here's the thing.
Every time Trump talks about doing a deal with Mexico on the wall, you name it, with the Chicoms, every time he talks about doing deals, he talks about winning them.
For his position, that nobody else is any good at this.
The people running our government now, elected officials now, don't know how to do deals.
They do the dumbest deals ever.
But Trump is going to do smart deals because that's what his life is.
He does deals for everything, and he runs rings around everybody.
He wrote a book on how to do deals better than anybody else.
And even after telling everybody how to do deals, they still can't do them better than he does.
And he's defined all of this as pro-America, i.e., for the people.
Making America great again.
And the opposition are the opposite reactions to Trump among Republicans and others.
Depends on whether people trust or believe him or not.
Trump opposers don't believe it.
Trump supporters do believe it.
Now he thinks he can make deals with Russia and Putin.
Better than Obama.
Everybody's making his so that's he's repositioning everything here is he's a deal maker.
And Cruz can't do deals because everybody hates it.
And we head back to the phones now.
Yeah, we're still going to get to the Democrat side of things.
Um and we're not through with the Republicans.
For example, two stories.
I got I got raked over to Coles for making this point yesterday, and here I come being backed up today.
CBS News, Americans hate the U.S. government more than ever.
And then the BBC.
BBC New magazine, Donald Trump and the Politics of Paranoia.
And this writer for the BBC gives the history of fear in American politics in order to explain Trump.
It's exactly what I said yesterday.
Exactly what I said.
The fear of government.
That's the there's a fear of losing your job, fear of losing your money, fear of this and that, but all those fears are under a giant umbrella of fear of the government.
So I made that point, and I said that's why there are probably some people who support Cruz because they think of him as a conservative, because he's going to stop the fear of government.
And I got raked over the calls in a couple of places.
Oh, dear, that's just absurd.
Here comes the backup.
The very next day.
I well, I was going to say I love it.
That's petty.
But it's the truth.
Anyway, back to the phones we go.
Mark in Spirit Lake, Iowa.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Great to be on, Russ.
Thank you, sir.
And be able to talk.
Um just a couple of observations.
I've been to uh Trump rallies and I've been to Cruz rallies, and uh in talking to people, I mean, yeah, you get a lot of people at Trump rallies because they're entertaining, they're fun to go to.
Um, but I I think there's uh a righteous anger in this country on two subjects.
One's the whole politically correctness crowd, and the other is the established, especially the Republicans, and not standing up to the conservative beliefs and the Constitution.
I think Trump's strength is he's anti-PC, so that's what we like about him.
Uh Cruz, on the other hand, unlike uh what Trump calls him, Cruz is not a nasty person.
He's a man of great integrity.
He has a moral compass, and uh he ha he has convictions and he stands by those.
So Trump may get a lot of headlines and get a lot of uh crowd f crowds following him.
I think uh from uh I grew up in uh Iowa farm family, and for me I want uh the government to get more out of our lives and get back to constitutional type law and this is a ethanol.
Uh and I'm I think there's a misunderstanding on Cruz's position on that.
Um I meant to you when Bramstead came out and said don't vote for Cruz because he's against the American far Iowa farmer, that's not correct.
Cruz is against government playing a role in picking winners and losers in uh business transactions and in farmers are going to take advantage of government subsidies and government programs if they're there, but in a large part, I think we don't want even want government involved in that part of our lives.
No, that's not true.
Now wait just a minute now.
That's not true.
King corn wants government involved every second of every day protecting it.
Who does who wants that?
King corn, the corn the corn lobby in in Iowa.
They want the government.
I'm not talking about Cruz.
I'm talking you I ask you what you're doing that That corn that corn lobby is part of the establishment.
That's not part of true true American family farmers.
If we didn't have if we didn't, if government get out of our lives, we'd be perfectly happy.
Yes, we can benefit from that.
And yes, we can take advantage of it.
Guess what?
Then we have to allow other states to get their pet projects passed.
I understand that.
No, I uh my point was asked you had just finished a great explanation of why Cruz has his supporters and why Trump has his.
And you went on about how the the establishments, this is them, did Ted Cruz's uh anti-establishments and then so I so I asked you, you said a cruise support.
So what about ethanol?
Because I have found that ethanol as an issue can turn the most conservative Republican voter into pro-established because they want the subsidy.
And I'm saying that that's not uh the right uh at least not for my perspective, the pulse of the the aver the family farmer in in Iowa.
The the thing is, Russ, is that it it's kind of like drugs.
Once you get hooked on that kind of stuff, it's kind of hard to give them up.
But for the hit for your own health and well-being, you have to give it up.
I know it's like it's like these uh these guys that have concessions that feed, take you out on a boat to feed whatever, the dolphins.
And after a while, the dolphins would die if the guy feeding them doesn't show up with his customers every day.
I understand about creating dependency and so forth.
Um I I just can't tell you the number of of times I have had calls in during the Hawkeye Cawkeye, you know, in the weeks leading up to it.
Ethanol always comes up, and I always advocate, get out of it.
It's artificially, it's not even good for car range.
It's all this stuff.
I get calls from angry, angry Republicans who claim they've been listening to me forever.
Are you really you really want to lose Iowa?
Is that what you want to do?
Because I guarantee you, you get rid of ethanol and the Republicans are finished here.
I hear it every four years.
That's the only reason I ask you.
I was taking your temperature vis-a-vis your support for cruise.
Anyway, so we have some anecdotal uh storytelling here from a guy on the ground in Iowa who says that the Trump rallies are exciting.
I mean, a lot of people showing up uh basically to be entertained and have some yucks, but that the cruise rallies are full of substance and uh and issues, and it's clear his preference is is for the is for the latter.
So uh we'll see.
I appreciate the call, Mark.
Don't don't misunderstand the tone of my voice here.
I when I get insistent, I sometimes sound accusatory.
I'm not accusing you of anything.
Merely uh analyzing here, positing, postulating, theorizing, exploring all of that.
Here is Dave in uh East Lansing, Michigan.
You're next.
It's great to have you on the program.
Hi.
Hey Rush, thank you.
Uh I'm pretty sure Donald Trump is in a conservative, and I know this because in the last eight years, my family and I have volunteered for Republicans who said they were conservative and have done absolutely nothing.
And although that I cringe at some of the things that Donald Trump says, he's saying the things that's important to me.
Stop with a lopsided tariffs and immigration.
And the best part about it is he's doing it in such a way that's not politically correct, and when I first heard him, I'm going, hell yeah, that what needs to be said.
And as far as him uh working deals out with the Democrats, he he's a businessman.
What did he do before he campaigned?
He worked with politicians.
He gave $50,000 to this Democrat.
He gave $25,000 to that Democrat.
He went to the Clinton's wedding.
He's got markers in his back pocket.
How do we know that he just hasn't been holding out of those chips till this comes in?
And the last point is I think it is absolutely funny that we finally got a third party candidate and he's running within the Republican Party.
That's how you look at this, huh?
So what was the what what was your point in leading off by telling me that did you say you are or you are not a conservative?
Oh, I I have been a conservative by my father.
Small business owners.
Okay.
So you are a conservative, but you what's remarkable about that is that you have now moved your support to Trump.
So you're you're identifying here as a rock solid conservative, but that doesn't matter.
You moved to Trump and you gave us the reasons why.
That was your point.
Oh, absolutely.
Oh, he's I just wanted to make because I don't hear everything you say.
I've got to read some of it on the transcription.
I just wanted to make sure I understood you.
I'm not challenging you, please.
Everybody understand when I ask you to repeat, it's because I didn't hear you.
It's not a good thing.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
So I'm just trying to get a lay-to-lay here.
So you are making the point that you are as conservative and you always have in your dad, but Trump's come along, and you don't care that he's not conserved.
That doesn't matter to you.
He's saying the things, and you believe what he says, and he's going to put this country first for a change, and that's what you want.
He has the business savvy to do it, and he's not going to take no.
That's all I've been asking my conservative Republicans to do.
Stop the stuff with the Democrats, stop giving it to them, stand up and do what the people want.
Okay.
So, given that, Dave, does it give you pause when you hear Trump say today on MSNBC that he will work with the Democrats?
He can work with them.
He knows Reed, he knows Pelosi, he gets along with him.
He can do deals with them.
He did deals with Schumer, who's going to be the new reader.
Does that bother you at all when you hear that?
Oh, no.
He's been doing deals with the Democrats for years.
He's given how much money to Democratic uh causes and funding their uh funding them for elections.
He's got markers that are dealing.
He's given them thousands and thousands of dollars just like a lobbyists do.
And what the lobbyists do?
No, no.
I'll get money billions and billions.
Get it.
Get it right.
He'll call here and tell me to tell you billions and billions.
But that's the point.
He gives them money.
No, he gets to collect the markers.
So heck yeah.
He's worked with them on the back.
There you go, folks.
What did I just done?
What the job of the presidency is is to make deals where Americans win.
Domestic deals, foreign deals, foreign policy deals, trade deals, whatever, that's what he's gonna do.
His book's not the art of the compromise.
That's not what it's called.
It's called the art of the deal.
And uh that's what the founders wanted.
The founders wanted deal makers.
But you know what the most intriguing thing that old Dave here said?
That we've got a third party candidate running for the presidency in the Republican Party.
That is insightful.
Okay, let's talk about deal making here for a minute.
Just a quick minute or two.
When you are in business, like I say, you're J.R. Ewing and you're up against a cartel in Dallas, and you're making deals.
Those are business deals.
Any any kind of a business deal.
The experts who teach business school students how to do deals.
The best deals are those in which everybody at the end feels good.
The art of the deal in business is making sure that you get what you want while making the other side think they got enough of what they want that they're happy to.
That in business, it's a bad thing to skunk somebody and leave them with nothing.
Give them something, no matter what card you hold, and if you go into the deal holding holding none of the cards, the objective is both sides like it and both sides don't.
If there's if there's commonality, if both sides are unhappy, they didn't get it all fine.
If both sides are happy with what they got to one degree or another, then you gotta go, you got a good deal or okay deal, and you're out of there.
In politics, that's not how it works.
Take a look at the deals the Republicans have done with the Democrats and ask Yourself, in every one of them, be it a budget deal, be it an immigration deal, is there any, is there a single deal that the Republicans have made in the past seven years that any of you have felt, you know what?
We got something out of this.
No.
However, if you listen to the Republicans who participated in the negotiation of the deal, they universally come out of there and start telling us, hey, you know, we got some stuff in here that we didn't have, and out of the budget deal, you know what that was?
We won back the right to export oil.
We smoked them.
We got a great deal.
And you're saying you think that makes this a good deal.
So from the Republican establishment standpoint, they think, or they they think you will be made to believe that they made a good deal if they tout what they think they got out of it.
The Democrats, when they go into one of these deals, it's smoke city.
There isn't going to be one IOTA's compromise.
The Republicans aren't going to get anything that matters.
Now the Democrats might give them something inconsequential, just enough that the Republicans can leave negotiation and say, look what we got, look what we got here.
We did okay.
And their voters are saying, you got skunked, you got nothing.
We lost it again.
And what you've promised to do is kick it down the road, and we'll deal with it the next time.
And it keeps happening and happening.
We didn't get diddly squat.
Yeah, we did.
Look at Medicare Part B. We skunked them.
We got we got a brand new entitlement that's got conservative free market principles all over.
You think that's a win?
That's what we were told after that happened.
How in the world can you, as a with a Republican administration, a Republican House agree to a new entitlement.
You start with it's your idea for a new entitlement.
And they dare come out and tell us that that's a win.
But in Trump's world, where he does deals, he's gonna have to do business with them down the road.
He doesn't want to make enemies, like he says Ted Cruz does.
Ted Cruz is not nasty.
Now, this is the thing.
I have I have warned them about this, I don't know how many times.
Ted Cruz is not nasty.
He's a nasty guy, he's a nasty guy.
Everybody hates Cruz.
No, they don't fear Cruz, maybe respect Cruz, but hey, look, if you're running a scam and somebody comes along in your own club and calls you out on it, you're not gonna love them.
Which is what Cruz did many times.
Okay, that's that for that.
Now we we um I want to do just a when we get back here and start the monologue segment the next hour, we're gonna focus on.
Look at if I had to watch it, you're gonna listen to some of it.
This this stupid town hall lesson.
Don't worry, I will use my own inimitable talents and skills to take what was drudgery and make it interesting and entertaining.
I also have in my formerly nicotine-stained fingers, a pretty good legal explanation of what happened in the grand jury room, Harris County, Texas, over Planned Parenthood and the uh group that made the videos of them buying, selling, negotiating the price of chopped-up body parts.
We'll be back.
Don't go away.
Over the course of the many years of the EIB network, there have been countless people call here and advocate for a third-party candidate because the Republican Party has been so inept in representing its voters that the only solution is third party.
And on each occasion, I have said, guaranteed to elect Democrats, because all you're gonna do is split the Republican vote because not everybody's gonna join the third car third party candidate.
What I've said is the best thing to do is to take over the Republican Party from within it.
And look what could be transpired.
You might say that Trump is doing that.
I mean he's that caller refers to his candidacy much like third party candidacy would be, and I think that's pretty insightful.
And for his part, Ted Cruz is trying to take over the Republican Party for conservatives and rest control of it back.
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