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Sept. 24, 2015 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 24, 2015, Thursday, Hour #2
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Hey, welcome back, my friends.
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Okay, we're gonna go back to the audio sound bites.
Pope Francis and his uh and his speech before the joint session of Congress today.
Let me just ask a question.
This is rooted, uh, ladies and gentlemen, in our first caller.
Uh you know, I've noticed that there is a process by which people go through when they support somebody, but they not sure what's the person they support is saying all the time, or or maybe a person they support never has addressed certain things.
The people that support them will always interpret what the person they support says as being what they like.
Uh I first saw it with Perot.
I had people calling here telling me what Perot was gonna do if he was elected and what he was saying, and he hadn't said any of it, and he wasn't gonna do any of it, but people were so excited about Perot that they they wanted him to do this.
So what they wanted him to do is what they ended up hearing him say he was gonna do.
There's some of that with Trump.
Now we had our our our caller here.
Uh God bless him.
This is not a criticism of the callers, this is an observation.
He was trying to tell me you you didn't hear right, Rush.
I mean, uh, the Pope had plenty of conservative things in there.
Now I'm probably going to get a little trouble here.
I'm used to that.
But I don't have any.
I I don't I don't need anybody analyzing this for me.
I know exactly what this Pope is saying, and I know what he thinks.
There isn't a whole lot of gray area for me here.
And if you hear me asking somebody, what did he mean by that?
I'm trying to get people to start thinking.
Well, let's continue the exercise here.
My only point here is that I I don't go looking for phantom statements from people I support.
I don't imagine phantom statements because I support them.
I uh if if they do things that I don't like or don't agree with, my support can go.
I mean, I'm not my support's not wedded to anybody at all times ever, depending.
So I do not do this.
And I don't I don't imagine the people I support saying what I want them to say, and then try to explain to us no no no, you didn't hear what he said was.
I heard him, but when I didn't.
So my point is I I I don't have any doubt what the Pope said in any facet of his speech today.
I know what he did.
I know what he said.
And if you have any doubts, just look at the reaction at the White House.
That's pure and simple, or anywhere in the Democrat Party.
Aside from abortion, and the way they look at that is he had to throw us a bone somewhere.
That's the way they justify it.
They're not gonna throw him overboard because he took him to task on abortion.
So they'll they'll rationalize it some other way.
But they're not gonna pay any attention to it.
Anyway, here we go.
Where are we where'd we stop?
We have the soundbite number uh yeah, we stopped at three.
No, we gotta do three.
Yeah, we only got two of these things in in the first hour.
Anyway, here's the third bite.
This is the Pope Golden Rule.
Refugees and oh, I remember why.
The second soundbite launched me on this whole notion of why these people think this place is so special, how it got this way, and just assuming it always will be.
Anyway, here's the next bite.
Oh, refugee crisis of a man.
No.
Since the second war.
This present us with great challenges and many hard decisions on this continent.
To thousands of persons have led to travel north in search of a better life.
We need to avoid a concept.
Now we're to discard whatever Prof travel so.
Let us remember the golden rule.
Do unto others as you do unto others as you will have them do unto you.
So a bunch of liberals and Democrats in the audience wanted to applaud when the Pope said, be nice to each other.
I mean, that's what the golden rule is.
Be nice to each other.
Yeah, right on you tell them you to as though that's something special.
Now why would the left think that's something special?
Because they think we're mean, folks.
I'm telling you, they think we're mean and extremists.
They think the Pope's calling us out when he says that.
Negnomas Pelosian reads it in there to darn right they think he's calling us out on immigration, a golden rule.
Anyway, if you didn't hear that, you want to make it through the um accident.
What the Pope said was our world is facing a refugee crisis of a magnitude not seen since the second world war.
This presents us with great challenges and many hard decisions.
On this continent, too, thousands of persons are led to travel north in search of a better life.
We need to avoid a common temptation nowadays to discard whatever proves troublesome.
Let us remember the golden rule.
Do unto others as you do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Does anybody have any doubt what what he said there?
Do you have any doubt, Mr. Snurr?
Are you are you confused at all?
Wendy, how about you?
You confused at all?
No.
Even while she's reading U.S. Weekly.
What about you, Brian?
You confused at all?
Nobody's confused what he meant by.
Just keep your borders open.
Treat them, tr treat them like you'd want to be treated.
Right.
Read like full citizens of your country.
You treat them the way you would want to be treated.
Don't treat them the way you will be treated if you go to their country.
You will not be allowed in and you will be kicked out.
And the Democrats in the audience knew what he was saying.
That's what they stood.
And he st he stopped them.
You know, he didn't want the applause.
And there was a there were some guidelines issued to members of Congress.
You can't touch as the Pope is walking down the center aisle.
Don't try to shake hands, don't do any of that.
And they they asked him to keep the applause way, way down.
For the most part, they complied.
There were just some times the left couldn't help themselves.
They were so excited.
Here's the next uh by this where the Pope got to mentioning abortion.
The golden rule also reminds us of our responsibility to protect and defend human life at every stage of its development.
This conviction has led me from the beginning of my ministry to advocate at different levels the global abolition of the death penalty.
Does anybody have any doubt about that?
Who do you think was yelling and screaming there in the background?
Let me read it.
You may again, uh, in case you were unable to understand what the Pope said there was the golden rule also reminds us of our responsibility to protect and defend human life at every stage of development.
This conviction has led me from the beginning of my ministry to advocate at different levels for the global abolition of the death penalty.
Folks, you don't need me to analyze this for you.
And you know full well that only things gonna happen if I do is I'm gonna get in trouble.
So you you know what being said here.
You don't need me to translate, and he continued on that same thing.
Well, kind of moved now in into uh very, very Clinton-esque thing.
He wove a nice web from capitalism and praising business and pivoted to climate change.
Business is a noble vocation, dialectic to produce wealth until it can be fruitful source of prosperity from the area in which it operates, especially if it is the creation of jobs as an essential part of its service to the common good.
This common good also includes the environmental challenge we are undergoing and its human roots concern and affect us all.
Any doubt there about what was being said.
How about business is a noble vocation?
What I I'm gonna get there, but first is business a vocation.
What is business?
If it's not a vocation, what is it?
It's a state of being.
It's not a vocation.
What do you want to do when you grow up?
I want to go into business.
Cool.
What do you want to do?
Nothing more than that.
Want to go into business.
Yeah, but what kind?
Nope.
I want to create jobs for the common good.
How are you gonna do that?
I'm gonna go into business.
Doing what?
Nothing, it's just business.
It's a great vocation.
It can be fruitful source of prosperity.
There are others.
Well, inheritance is a source for well, no, inheritance is a transferance of wealth.
Uh inheritance is not a fruitful source of prosperity.
When you in bequeathe something, you're giving it to them, but you're not really sourcing anything.
So uh business is a source of prosperity.
What other sources of prosperity are there?
This is a key question in the arguments between left and right.
The government, if you're on the left, you're the government is a source of prosperity.
Damn right.
If you're on the left, you would.
Government's a primary source of prosperity for you if you're on the left.
And if you believe that business exists to kill you, if you believe that business exists to poison you, then government is a source of prosperity for you.
And it's especially good business is if it sees the creation of jobs as an essential part of the service to the common good.
Now, well, that's not it's not no, it's not what jobs are for.
But see, this this is where all of this is really simple as pie, but it seems like it's too technical, which warns people off or scares them off.
But if you say to somebody, as I have done, no, no, no.
The purpose of a business is not to create jobs and to help a community.
You realize there are people, depending on how they've been educated, those are fighting words, and they think you are a lunatic.
They think the only reason for business is creating jobs and cohesiveness in a community and providing health care.
Now you go ask any founder of any company why he or she did it.
You will never hear I wanted to create jobs for the community, as The number one, number two, number three, number four, number five, number ten reason for doing so.
That is a result of the success the business enjoys.
Creating jobs is not white people start businesses.
Creating jobs is not how people innovate in business.
It's not how they compete.
But you realize certain people listening to me, they think I am the now the meanest, most unfeeling and sensitive guy they've ever heard.
Based on how they've been no, they think that's exactly what business is for.
Is to create jobs is to provide health care.
Is to keep a community organized and functioning.
I I guarantee you, I've encountered it over the course of my stellar broadcast career on previous occasions where I have said such things as I just said.
You believe you've heard the angry calls.
You just don't get it.
You do not understand.
It's insensitive, it's mean spirited.
No, it is none of that.
It's it's simply true.
Anyway, I've taken a break here, folks.
I will do it, we'll come back and we will continue with your phone calls after this.
Don't go away.
Hey, folks, I just had this pointed out to me.
Somebody sent me a website called Now the End Begins.
Yes, I've got the rich Lowry soundbite coming up, and it's all beneath the dignity of this program, but I'm gonna play it.
I've got it.
I got all that Trump stuff coming up.
So yeah, just hang in there be tough.
Anyway, this website, now the end begins, points out.
Website is now the end begins.
Is it now the Yeah, now the end begins.com.
The Pope never once invoked God.
Never once did not open or close in prayer.
And the website also mentions something else that we all heard.
I it registered when I heard it a number of times, but I I didn't think to make a note of it.
The Pope repeatedly said he wanted to enter into dialogue with the American people.
I I've well I'm kind of putting the brakes on here, folks.
Is what I'm doing.
And this website also points out that uh at about 15 minutes in when the Pope began to be somewhat critical of wealth, business and so forth, uh the site points out that the Pope neglected to mention the wealth and riches of the Vatican itself.
Which is true, which is true.
Anyway, here's uh here's Donata in Frederick, Maryland, as we get back to the phones.
Great to have you.
Hello.
Thank you, sir.
Um, I have to totally and emphatically disagree with your last caller about the Pope.
If he really wanted to uh first of all have dialogue with the American people, he wouldn't be saying the Mass in Spanish.
That's a slap in the face to every American Catholic I know.
Uh I've been a Catholic for fifty-two years, and as far as I'm concerned, if you don't say he's a leftist, I'm perfectly willing to do so.
Uh I I this is an abomination of my morality and my religion being basically sideswiped.
If he wanted to put abortion on the ticket to bring here and talk about, he could have easily done that with what's going on in this country if he wanted to bring morality or any of the church doctrine.
We would have been happy to hear it.
But he wants to talk about climate change, a science which he can't even say has been proven.
I'm just let me ask you a question about that, though, uh Donata.
Uh when the Pope went into his start's comments about the family.
Did you think That he was without directly saying it, uh, criticizing gay marriage.
No, not at all.
In fact, I don't think he criticizes gay marriage at all.
Not that I'm saying he should.
I'm saying I don't think he does.
I'm saying that's his take on it from what I've read.
And everything that I've read, which I've tried to educate myself, I've tried to give this Pope at least the benefit of the doubt, as I do any other Pope that's been well, yeah, you have to admit, John Paul II has been most of my life.
But and and I find it very difficult that there would be another Pope any greater than him.
But you know, I just don't see where he's putting family first when he seems to talk about uh the Catholics having too many children.
Yeah, okay.
Well, but I'm in specifically today, with the remarks that he made today.
I if you can hang on through the break, don't go away.
Yes, indeed it is.
Check the email during the break.
Rush, why are you spending so much time analyzing the Pope?
You know, that's a that's a fair question, and there's a definite reason for it.
And it's something that you've heard me say over and over again, it's about informing and educating and explaining.
And it's it comes under this giant umbrella of belief I have that the more people that understand and are made able to spot liberalism, and then the more people are able to associate liberalism with the problems in their lives,
the political problems, the economic problem, the more people can be conditioned and educated to understand that liberalism is the problem, coupled with the ability to spot it would be the fastest way to eradicate it.
It would be really helpful if we had a Republican party engaged in this.
If you go back to Rinaldus Magnus, Ronaldus Magnus constantly used the word liberal, and he constantly told people who they were, and he was constantly explaining what they did, how they thought, and what they did looked like.
After we won the Congress in 1994, we stopped doing that.
And we haven't done it except on talk radio since.
And it's crucial.
Gonna need more than winning elections, we're gonna need to change the way people think.
And they're not gonna change what they think if there's no counter to the way liberalism is presented in the pop culture.
People have to be able, you have to teach them.
My my quest here has been to teach people what liberalism is and how to identify it and how to spot it, and furthermore, how to understand liberalism is probably the root of most of the problems they face in life, including raising their kids, including educating their kids, uh practically every walk of life, because everything today is political.
Here's another reason why.
We have as the president of the United States one of the most radical leftists that's even ever run for office.
Certainly the most radical extreme leftist ever to be president.
But if people are not told that, they're not going to believe it.
Nobody wants to believe such things about the president.
Nobody wants to believe such things about other powerful figures like popes, um, and other revered leaders.
If you look at what Obama has done, capitalizing on the squishiness of the GOP.
In the last seven years, Barack Obama has successfully recruited or corrupted or hijacked, however you want to describe it, John Roberts of the Supreme Court, John Boehner, Speaker of the House, Mitch McConnell, Republican leader in the Senate, and some might even say the Pope.
So you're saying, well, so what, Roch?
No, no, that's a surprise.
That's right, but for people who don't follow politics, and they see people like the Pope sidling up to and having fun with and supporting Obama, and see a Supreme Court justice going out of his way to be supportive of Obama.
And then the two Republican leaders, you realize how impossible it will be to portray Obama as he is.
An extreme radical.
You realize how difficult that is to explain to people when all these other people seem to have been recruited by him and are helping him.
Now in the case of Roberts, Boehner and Mitchell, the explanation for it, we know that they're not sympathetical on issues, and God help us if they are.
It's more that they're afraid to oppose him.
Pope's another matter.
Interchangeable, but for the domestic people here, it's not not just these three, but but they're the big three John Roberts, Boehner, and Mitchell, or uh uh McConnell.
If the Republican leadership and the so-called conservative Chief Justice of the Supreme Court don't appear to have any problem with Obama, do you realize how difficult it is to tell the truth about the guy?
That's one of the reasons I cringe every time I see no evidence of pushback by the Republican Party on Obama policies.
Just makes it harder to accomplish one of the things I have set out to do.
And that is educate people about liberalism.
Anyway, back to Donata.
Donata, I I know that you're you're reacting to what the Pope has said previously, but and I don't have his words right in front of me here.
But he today launched into a defense of the family, how important it was, how crucial the family is.
He did not mention gay marriage or any of that, but he was talking about it in the traditional sense.
So I just wanted to ask you, because you are a Catholic and you're having some difficulties with his papacy, if you thought that his comments today in that joint speech were a disguised criticism of gay marriage.
That's very possible.
I I I tend to think of him as a wolf in shepherd's clothing.
Uh oh.
Um this is just my view.
Uh and uh I know a lot of conservative cla Catholics that feel the same.
I just happen to have a big enough mouth to say it.
Um I I don't I don't know what he was talking about, to be perfectly honest with you, and I would never assume to put words in his mouth.
I'm only going by the words I know have come out of his mouth and understand those.
Um, there have been plenty of those before this speech.
I mean, I'm not disputing you in that.
Okay.
Well, look, I'm glad you held on.
I appreciate it.
I just I just wanted to to run it by you and make sure you understood what the question was, because we were in a hurried state at the uh end of your call.
We move on to Alan in Denville, New Jersey.
Welcome, sir, to the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
Uh longtime listener, first time caller.
Thank you, sir.
Um I dialed a number and got right through.
I thought I dialed the wrong number.
Well, I'm glad you did.
In any case, uh this is uh when you were making a comment before about why the the world isn't looking to the U.S. as a model and trying to reproduce it, rather, seems everyone's one wants to tear it down.
I I called up, I told Mr. Snerdley, uh in fact I was well more nervous speaking to him than you, but I I told him that uh you know, there there's there's two there's two things.
They're very s they're similar, but there's a big difference.
I think it it points to the root of a problem we have in this culture and around the world.
There's envy and there's a begrudgingness.
Envy is something that it can be a positive because we c I can be envious or you could be envious of some sessions and and use that as a positive to try to strive to achieve whatever you need to to get those possessions in terms of a a job, education, whatever it is.
Right, you could you could be envious of Mr. Snerdley's job, and that's why you were getting so nervous talking to him when you call.
Right.
Right.
And and neighbors can be envious of what the other person has, yet still be happy for what they have.
Right.
And the relationship will endure.
However, The problem we have is a begrudgingness.
People see what other people have and they don't want them to have it.
And if neighbors have begrudging feeling towards their friends' possessions, eventually it's going to eat away and destroy the relationship, and they're going to look at ways to try to take away what their friends have.
There's no there's no question that happens in neighborhoods.
I mean, that happens among friends.
I mean, that's just you're you're right.
That's a natural human emotion.
That's called jealousy.
Um that's called covetousness, covetedness.
I mean, people covet what somebody else has.
Right.
And that's that's why I think the problem is people are people are so busy worrying what other people have and looking for ways of taking away from them.
They don't appreciate the things they have, and we really need if people can really work on not looking to take away what everyone else has.
Uh you know, look at it as a positive.
I mean, I'd I'd much rather be in a country where the median income was maybe uh a hundred thousand dollars because it tells me, oh, okay, I have the chance of getting that median income rather than living in a country where the everyone's, you know, no one has anything, so I can't be uh jealous of someone's fancy cars.
But everyone's taking it.
But but let me refocus the question because I I was not speaking per se, and I'm glad you called to enable me to make this uh clarification.
When I asked the question in the first hour, when others around the world look at the U.S., why don't they seek to emulate it and spread that specialness all over the world rather than everybody try to get here?
You're right, there's someone to tear it down, but the the the answer to the question who wants to tear it down.
I'm asking about other leaders, powerful people, people who have the ability to lead movements that would emulate the United States around the world, or Americans who would try to proselytize about the American way of life.
We've had those.
And they've been called renegades and conquerors and imperialists and so forth.
But the real reason is that most of the world's leaders are tyrants.
That's another reason that we are special and why we are so hellbent, opposed and frightened of tyrants.
We don't want dictators, which is what most people live under.
Most people were born to tyranny and bondage and dictatorship, and most to this day are still subject to it in one way or another, or in many ways.
Those people, the tyrants and the dictators and many others who seek to run and rule countries, do not want to free people.
You think Fidel Castro wants his people to be free?
You think Raul Castro wants his people to be free?
You think Stalin, old Joe, wanted his people to be free?
Or Lenin?
Do you think Hitler wanted his people to be free?
How about the Chai Kams?
You really think they want their people to be free?
No, they want them to be controlled.
The leaders in these tyrannies and dictatorships do very well economically.
They are literal thieves.
They plunder and steal the national wealth of the countries they lead.
Allah the Castros, Allah, the Soviet leaders.
Look at the oligarchs, even today there, Putin and his buddies.
The thing that stands in the way of that is a free people and a runaway economy.
A growing economy with prosperity for all.
That's again what explains, illustrates, defines the specialness or uniqueness of the United States.
And it really is a rarity.
My question was for all of these leaders that I'm talking about, these tyrants and dictators, if you listen to them, what are the names of their countries?
The people's republic of whatever.
The people don't have a say in anything in these countries.
The leaders who claim to be for the little guy, who claim to care about the oppressed, who claim they're going to get even with the rich, claim they're going to get even with those who have their jackbooted thugs on the necks of the little Guy don't mean it.
If they did, they would be trying to emulate the United States, and they would attempt to seek the stature and credit one would attain from founding, establishing, leading such a nation, such a prosperous nation.
But that's not who these people are.
They're dictators, they're tyrants.
They rule by the use of force and intimidation and imprisonment.
And that is the story for most of the people in the world.
And it's even in light of that fact, it just infuriates me even more when I have to listen to people both in this country and visitors to this country blame us for the problems in the world.
And it really steams me.
It really ticks me off when they start going down this road of climate change and how we're destroying the world.
Now we are destroying the planet.
I can't tell you, I get so insulted, I get so angry when I hear this.
Anyway, I appreciate the uh the call, Alan, I really do.
And I've got another brief break here, folks, who will be back before you know it.
Don't go away.
Yes, as promised, in the next hour, we are going to get into the domestic politics, presidential race, and stuff, including the uh desired anatomical procedure Rich Lowry wishes would perform on Trump, or rather Carly Fiorina already has performed on Trump, uh, as uttered uh live on Meghan Kelly's show on Fox last night.
Anyway, we'll get to all that.
Here's Steve in uh in Birmingham, Alabama.
Welcome, sir.
Appreciate your patience too.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
I just want to build on your excellent point from the first hour.
Uh the left does often talk about why and how we became wealthy.
I mean, not good or special, because we don't think about it in those terms, but wealthy.
It was at the expense of the rest of the world, on the backs of the world's poor by imperialism and exploiting the world uh the world's resources.
Yep.
And therefore it needs to be shared in return.
We gotta give it back.
We gotta be cutting out inside.
Now he is exactly right, is exactly but of course that's a lie.
That's absolute gunk and BS, and anybody with any common sense could have it explained to them.
How did the U.S. become special?
Oh, fire.
This was special.
And it just worked out that way.
Okay.
But the caller had a point out there, folks, and it is that the left thinks that this country became special.
That it isn't special.
See, that's the thing.
It isn't special.
This country's fraudulent.
This country is founded onjustice, ill-gotten gains.
The immorality of discrimination.
This is what they really believe, and people around the world do.
So when you talk about emulating the country's greatness, what made it special?
But see, they're the ones that contradict.
How about all these people telling us how wonderful and great America?
We should let these immigrants in.
They're trying to improve their lives.
We're who are we to tell them they can't come here?
Wait a minute, what's so special about this place?
I thought founded an immorality.
All these other rotten things.
So they contradict themselves left and right on all this.
But the way they'll catch up, yes, we must let the immigrants in because the country was theirs originally.
Until we came along and took it from them.
It wasn't ours.
We just came in and overpowered them.
And they were at one with nature.
They were innocent, they were naive, they had no idea they were minding their own business.
They had their buffalo and they had the fish and they had the streams and they had the bears, and everything was fine.
And then here we came with Custer and the boys, and we wiped them out.
And it was unfair.
And we did the same thing in Mexico.
Why do you think they invented the pinatas to get back at us?
So, it's our fault.
And all of this cutting America down to size is the price we must pay for all of the injustice we have perpetrated since our founding.
That's how they go.
Okay, we will broom a papal address at a joint session of Congress.
We've uh pretty much blanketed that, and we'll move on to the American presidential race, which has its own uh level of color, shall we say, occurring out there.
Sit tight, my friends.
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