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Sept. 17, 2015 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 17, 2015, Thursday, Hour #2
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Hi folks, great to have you back, Rush Limbaugh doing what I was born to do.
That's why I'm having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
That's Sir Rebob here at the EIB Network, excellence in broadcasting, the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
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Everybody on hold, I want you to hang in there and be tough.
You're on hole for a reason.
I I really want to get to you, and we will in uh in due course.
Again, if you missed the first hour, uh uh the overview of the debate, as far as I was concerned, I I put this basically as a um in this the overall everything thrown in, everything tabulated.
If there was nothing earth-shattering last night that is going to upset the standings as they are, in a dramatic way.
And everybody was hoping for that last night on the establishment side.
The establishment side was hoping, and they have been hoping, they're hoping for one thing to happen that'll get rid of Donald Trump.
And that didn't happen.
And an assessment that I shared in the previous hour, I will repeat, for those of you in the establishment waiting for that one moment, I don't think that one moment is going to happen.
If Capital I, Capital F, if Trump is to lose his number one position here, it isn't going to be an overnight thing.
It's going to be something that attrition, something that happens uh over time.
When is the next debate?
It's not anytime soon.
It's like six weeks from now, right.
So what's going to happen between now and the next debate that is going to cause a major shift?
Now, this is not to say that individual candidates did not maybe gain ground or lose ground last night, but in terms of the overall makeup of the race, not much changed.
Where you might have Carly Fiorina moving into second place now ahead of uh Ben Carson, and Christie might have moved up a notch or two.
You might have Jeb Bush move up a point or two depend.
Nobody knows yet until the the polling data came comes out on this.
And then you have to decide whether or not that you you want to believe that.
Now, Carly Fiorina did well no matter what, no matter what the circumstances, no matter what uh the pre-publicity was, just within that universe of three hours, it's undeniable she was on her game.
She was ready to roll, she was competent, she was smart, she was well spoken.
There was only one moment where she appeared to be flustered at all, and that's when the moment in the debate where her her or CEO uh period of time at Hewlett Packard came up.
That's something obviously that that uh is important to her, and it it I want to say unnerves her, but it's it's the only it's it's the only point in the debate where I think she got a little bit self-conscious.
So I really think the key to performing in things like this is being able to rid yourself of the self-consciousness that everybody has.
It's a tough, tough thing to do.
And the the success that one has in dropping the self-conscious you've heard people say they're in the zone, athletes and other performers say, yeah, I was just in the zone.
I I can't tell you what it was like.
I can't describe it.
I was just in the zone.
I mean, every pitch looked like a grapefruit.
I mean, I couldn't miss it.
Uh yeah, I'm running the football, and there's nobody near me.
No way I'm not catching that foot.
No way I'm not scoring.
Golfers, the same thing.
The shot's gonna end up two feet from the pin.
I just know it.
I'm just I'm in the zone.
Well, speech makers and stage performers have the same types of night.
They have the zone.
And my contention is that when you're in the zone is when you're totally devoid of any self-consciousness.
I think that is the great characteristic or talent or quality that really great actors have.
If you are going to really convince people you are somebody else, you have to be able to totally abandon yourself in your own consciousness.
Such things as worrying about how you look, worry as your tie straight, worrying about how do I sound, not being distracted by somebody in the audience.
That's a biggie.
You're up there making a speech, you're answering a question in a debate, somebody frowns and the audience can take you off your game if you have not shed your self-consciousness.
Self-consciousness also includes uh being concerned about what other people think about what you're doing, what you look like, uh how you look compared to everybody else, because it ends up uh generally the more self-conscious you are, the more hard on yourself you are, the more negative you are about yourself.
Now you may find that strange that egomaniacs only love themselves.
That's a different thing.
Egomania egoism is a different thing here than self-consciousness.
That's its own psychological state.
And that state really is one in which you're totally devoid of reality.
Abandoning self-consciousness puts you right smack dab in the middle of reality.
You are in the midst of it.
And I think that's where she was last night.
And what was amazing to me about it was that's exactly where she wanted to be.
She had had to have a pre-debate strategy, and I guarantee you in her camp, they hit a grand slam.
You know how you can tell.
She didn't hang around for the spin zone.
She had no representatives in the spin zone.
There wasn't anything else left to say.
She just got out of there.
Everybody else, some of the candidates, in fact, stayed, or their representatives were in the spin zone, telling the media what they didn't hear.
No, you didn't see my candidate fluff anything.
No, you didn't see my candidate watch that.
Let me tell you what you missed.
Here's what happened.
She had nobody in the spin zone.
They just got out of there.
In the um inside baseball, ladies and gentlemen, it's called to drive drop the mic.
I used to do it after every Rush to Excellence stage.
You drop the mic, get out of there.
There's nothing left to do.
Hit a home run.
Drop the mic, turn the mic off, take it off, throw it on the floor, get out of there.
That's what she did.
Drop the mic.
So she she had to be feeling great today because she pulled off what she wanted to pull off.
She had to do.
And if you recall, if you've been listening to this program any time for the regularity here for the past three to four months, uh today's not the first time I've touted Carly Fiorina.
I touted her after the first pregame meal debate, you know, where she didn't make the main stage.
I thought she had some brilliant answers in that debate, particularly when she was talking about, again, the character of the United States and how we're losing that.
She I forget the exact quote, the Democrat Party is destroying the character of the United States of America.
So it was a great answer.
And she went back to that when she linked Iran and planned parenthood in one answer.
She was versed on foreign affairs.
She was versed on foreign policy.
She was versed on domestic policy.
She had a clear answer on what she would do the first day, first hour, what have you.
I mean, it was impressive.
She was she was versed on military stuff.
Um that was but so were a lot of the others.
You know, she wasn't alone last night.
It's just the attention was on her because of a face comment.
You know, you can't deny this.
And the looks thing, let me let me delve into that right now.
This whole business, here, grab grab some bite nine.
This will help me get into it.
This is today's show today, Savannah Guthrie interviewing Fiorina.
When you say that women in this country heard what Donald Trump said and knew what he meant, let me push you on that a little further.
What do you think women heard when Trump said that about you and your face?
Women are still caricatured and scrutinized and criticized differently.
And I think it's only a woman who would be criticized for her appearance While running for the highest office in the land.
And so I think women know that.
Women deal with that every day.
And so I think women understood.
I don't think it has the slightest thing to do with running for the presidency.
If people make fun of people running for the presidency and their looks all the time.
If it weren't for editorial cartoonists, what would we be?
Editorial cartoonists lampoon, the way people look every day.
One of the best at it is Michael Ramirez.
Michael Ramirez is some of the best editorial cartoons in this country.
They are all made up of caricatures of people's appearance.
It's not just women.
Trump, and this is not to defend Trump, but how many people have made fun of Trump's hair?
How many people have made made fun of Trump's glare and lack of smile?
People's people's appearance is commented on all the time.
People are laughing at Bernie Sanders' appearance.
And if they're not laughing about it, they're commenting on it.
The simple fact of the matter is, what Trump did in commenting on Carly Fiorina was violate something in the appropriate inappropriate area.
Um that's not contained exclusively in politics.
It's just considered in polite society, that when one sees an uglo-American, one doesn't say so.
Whether you're in politics or whether you're at the bowling alley, of course, at the bowling alley, you just don't say it.
And that was the violation that Trump.
It wasn't, it's not that she's running for president why you don't say it.
And there's another reason why you don't say it.
And not talking about Fiorina Trump here.
I'm talking in general.
Another reason why you don't say it is especially if it's true you don't say it.
That's what'll kill you.
Now you may deny that.
You sit there and now you can laugh on the other side of the glass all you want.
I'm not talking about Trump Fiorina.
I'm talking about relations.
Relationships between people.
You know, I folks, I can tell you, I wish I could name names, but I can't.
I've got good friends of mine.
There's no way they're going to support somebody in this field.
No way.
Eyes are too close together.
No way in gonna happen.
No matter what else.
They openly tell me this.
Now, if I were to name the people involved here, that would be inappropriate.
I am leaving you wondering hanging, whatever.
But my only point here is people do this all the time.
Why do women wear makeup?
Why do women shave their legs?
It's all to improve their appearance, right?
Is it not hopefully noticed?
I mean, the effort is put in.
Is it not so that people notice it?
So you know people react to it, they comment on it, they see it, they register it.
The inappropriateness is to describe it or talk about it or make reference to it.
Especially if it happens to be true.
That's what violates the rule.
All I'm saying is it's not possible.
Just like this Democrat liberal uh pipe dream here about they, you know, these are these are the people that run around and supposedly champion a colorblind society.
And they talk about seeing people for what they were.
They are the first people to judge and notice people on surface basis.
Liberals are the first to notice if somebody's male or female, the first to notice if somebody's black or white.
And then they judge them based on that alone.
They're the biggest hypocrites in the world on all that.
Fact of the matter is, I don't care.
It's never gonna happen.
I am never not going to notice an attractive woman walking down the street or in a room where I sorry, no, but you can you have to lobotomize me.
And you know why?
Nature.
It's the way God made us.
It's the reason it just happens.
And women are the same way, although maybe but different characteristics.
But you can't, you cannot legislate that, you can't shame that, you can't wipe that out Of human behavior, human existence.
But I don't think Miss Fiorina is correct here to say that she's the only one who's been made fun of because of the way she looks.
It's happened, it happens to everybody, and it happens to a lot of men.
And not just running for office.
I mean, I've had books written about the way I look.
It happens.
Never never whine, moan, cry to tear about it at all.
Anyway.
In it now, I got to take a break here, but I'm going to dovetail from that into some of the high points for Fiorina as I heard it last night in the debates of her comments.
But first, before that, I'm going to start getting to some of these people on the phone, been waiting for a while.
So sit tight.
It all continues right after this.
Don't go.
So the phones we go, as I stated, George in San Francisco.
Welcome, sir, to the EIB network.
Hi.
Hello?
Hey, George, how are you?
Okay, I'm a little nervous.
Uh, first off, I'll have to say Mega Dittoes.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate that.
Uh next is uh well, I'm gonna preface it a bit because I've been listening to you from the beginning, and then you give uh me a five-minute lecture on being myself by talking about how good politicians do that.
So I'm gonna try to not think of uh pink elephants here.
But I think uh Donald Trump is just brilliant at taking them out of their game.
And I think that's exactly what he did with this thing about uh figurina and his her uh appearance when he answers her by saying, uh, I think you're beautiful.
I think he's just placing it on the level.
If you're gonna deal on that level, it's a PC thing, and uh he's been bucking PC from the beginning.
Yeah.
And then let me tell you how this whole thing started.
Trump, it was at the end of a long day, and Trump's on his jet watching TV.
And Fiorina pops up on TV.
There's some media people say, they look at that at the end of who you look at.
Wait, who would ever vote for that?
But it was just Trumping Trump in private moments, and media people heard it, and it ends up being major news.
He did not say it in a campaign appearance, he didn't say it talking about her on the stump or any of that.
He was sitting around watching TV after dinner on his jet after a long day, was letting his hair down.
Um he made fun of how slow Scott Walker is at the same time.
Yeah, yeah, but nobody nobody no outrage about that.
Um it's just and I think I think the she's beautiful thing last night.
I look, I don't.
Um I could probably explain that.
I don't know that I should take the time to do it.
I don't think enough people would understand, given the heightened political correctness that exists today.
But I don't think he was trying to be offensive at all.
I think it was I think it was his his sort of lame way of of trying to take it back.
Uh Salvana in San Diego, you're next.
It's great to have you on the EIB network, hello.
Yes, I thanks for taking my call.
Um, I just wanted to make a comment about this Donald Trump Fiorina uh issue.
First of all, that's not a big issue for me.
Uh but anyway, my take on this is is this.
Fiorina is not really dealing with that issue.
To me, it almost looks like she's whining about it and looking for sympathy from other women.
Look how mean Donald Trump is for me.
He's speaking on my looks.
To me, dealing with it would be for her to be strong.
Stand up and say, yeah, I'm an ugly broad.
But what that means is that I got where I am, not based on my looks or anything else on the outside, my skin color, my ethnicity, any of that stuff.
I got where I am based on what I have inside.
My spirit, my intelligence, strength of my character.
That's what matters.
Not if somebody thinks that I'm beautiful or not.
All right, so let me go back to the beginning of what you said.
You you think that she's beginning to um play the gender card here, and it doesn't make you comfortable, right?
Correct.
Yeah, it doesn't make me happy at all.
I I want to see a strong woman that doesn't get rattled by stuff like, oh, you're ugly.
That that's that's small.
You don't really expect her to stand up there and say, okay, look, let's be honest, I'm an ugly broad, like you said.
You don't think she's gonna stand up there and say that.
But I think she would win over a lot of women.
It would be funny.
It would show how self-confident she is.
Well, okay, I'll give you an example.
She had, you know, when the question came up about putting a woman on the dollar bill.
You remember that in the debate?
Yes, I do, yeah.
And everybody I would put my mother I would put my first daughter.
I would put my and here comes the woman.
You know what she said?
Well, she said that she wouldn't change the Ray.
Don't screw with it.
We don't need to be changing our history for crying out loud, and what does it matter?
Yeah.
She was why do we need to pander to women?
And yet you think she is by playing this gender card, and and you I can tell what you say.
You think she's trying to get sympathy from other women, right?
You don't like it.
I don't, yes.
All right.
Well, so you weren't that impressed with that then at the end of the whole thing.
Uh no.
And you know, neither one of those two, I'm not a Donald Trump.
I'm not Fiorina.
Um, you know, I'm still kind of looking.
I have another candidate that I'm interested in, but I'm still kind of relatively fluid.
Okay, good.
Well, that's that's where you that's perfectly fine this far out.
You still got a lot of candidates to be fluid with or about, until you have to make up your mind out there.
But this business that you know only women get made fun of in presidential.
Come on, that's not true.
I just No, no, I have not forgotten.
I've got these two th actually got three things.
The uh head of the Nobel Committee's a new book out claiming that the the guy that was head of the Nobel Committee back in 2008 regrets or 2009 regrets giving Obama the peace prize.
Um and then we have what Obama is doing to the Pope on his visit, the official list of invited guests to meet the Pope.
This is this is just even for Obama, you know, this is this is beyond the pale.
Unless, of course, the Pope is part of the deal, which I wouldn't rule out.
And then of course, the story it's coming up, and in fact, with a couple of pictures I'm even gonna show you on the ditto cam.
Just to illustrate this 14-year-old kid arrested in uh in Texas for bringing what people thought was a bomb to school.
It turned out to be a clock.
And I'm just telling you that the the picture of this clock that the drive-by media is showing you is not the whole truth.
It's just one little piece of what was inside a suitcase.
Who brings a clock anywhere in a suitcase or a large briefcase?
Now the school might have jumped a gun on this, but the cops did not do anything wrong.
After Columbine, after all these things that have happened, it was the small.
It looked like a freaking bomb.
Even after it was opened, it looked like a bomb.
It doesn't.
I'm looking at it right now.
It does not look like a clock.
And don't you know the kid's been invited to bring the thing to the White House?
Well, that's all coming up.
But uh I'm gonna just stay focused here because I've still got a lot of people on the line that want to weigh in on the debate, such as John in Boston.
John, great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush uh Megadettoes, thanks for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
I just I need your opinion, uh if you could I kind of thought that I was hearing things when I heard uh Jeb Bush praising uh Chief Justice John Roberts.
Uh was I and what's your opinion if I was hearing correctly?
Uh you heard Jeb Bush praise John Rom, yeah.
Why would why why wouldn't he?
Well I don't know if you're if you're saying that with a little bit of levity there, but you know uh the uh as Justice Calier uh said they should change the name of Obamacare to Scotus care.
The uh the abortion issue uh and the uh same sex marriage issue.
Um if he was at a Republican uh meeting, I mean uh if he was at a Democrat meeting last night I would say he would be justified in in praising uh Chief Justice Roberts.
Well he had to praise Chief Justice Roberts, his brother nominated him.
He's not he's not gonna he's not gonna criticize W. Well i I I don't know if you remember or if you go back this far, but uh Wait a minute, wait a minute.
What what are you frowning at me for?
Do you do it?
Well he knows his own man, but he's not he's not gonna rip the his brother's choice of chief justices gonna happen.
Just like you know, when when Trump what do you think it is?
Let me ask you this, John.
You're talking about you're talking about Roberts.
How about when Trump dumped all over W in the last three months of his administration is the worst three months we've ever had and gave us the Democrats and gave us Obama and all that.
Well, I I think there's uh some truth to that.
Uh yeah, and you know, when you when you get to Trump, you know, he was you know, he was at least mean enough to say that he he opposed uh you know the uh the combat in Iraq.
Right.
And and I you know, I agree with you and and uh most everybody else that you know the the the problem was compounded when when uh Obama left Iraq.
But but one mistake begat another mistake.
You know, the the original mistake was Bush going in i into Iraq and then the it was compounded by uh Obama leaving Iraq, so yeah, I I mean you could say it's a wash, except, you know.
No, you can't no, you can't because look at the mature way to look at this is okay, even if you believe that Bush botched it by going into Iraq, it doesn't erase the fact that we're there.
And if you're Obama, it doesn't erase the fact that we're there when you assume office.
And it doesn't erase the fact that Iraq is fairly stable when you assume office.
And when you take no action to maintain that and cause Iraq to go back over the cliff and give us ISIS, that is on you and not on W. It's unfair to spread this around to W. I mean you can maybe you want to, if you want to go back, well we wouldn't have been there at all.
But the ultimate responsibility on a mature human being, Obama should have realized, okay, I may not like any of this, but this is what I inherited.
I ran for this job.
I wanted this job, I told everybody the world was gonna be safer with me in this place, so here it is, and I got a situation that'll be totally botched, threw it overboard, and we got ISIS and we got Middle East hellhole.
Now we have the Muslim Brotherhood and the Arab Spring all gave in this given us by Obama.
You can you can you can get mad at W for all you want for this, but it doesn't exonerate Obama at all.
Well, uh you know, I agree with you.
I th there's no argument for me on that.
But you know, like I say, you know, the the original sin, if you want to call it that, was you know, W didn't um you know, it he should uh to to borrow a phrase from uh uh Harry Truman, uh you know, who's show me I'm from Missouri.
And if if uh W had exercised that with the weapons of mass destruction, we probably wouldn't have been in there.
So, you know, I'm not I'm not justifying uh Obama.
He's totally wrong.
I mean, the man is a wuss.
I mean, you know, there's there's no getting away from that.
Uh uh, you know, look at the the situation we are in in the entire world now, Putin and the and everything going on in the Middle East.
I lay that all at his feet, but the original sin, you know, I hate to say it, but it it goes back to W. Uh well, if you want to trace it back there, you can, but where do you stop then?
Well you had now that's that's what I think Trump will cure if he gets elected.
Trump won't what?
I say I think that's what Trump will cure.
Oh, oh yeah, yeah.
If he gets elected.
Oh, no question about that.
Yeah.
And I know you got a bunch of calls right.
You know, as much as I like Ben Carson and ca I I think I can say this.
I like him because he is black.
Now, if that makes me a racist, I'm sorry.
But wait, wait, wait, wait a minute.
You s you uh you you you switched gears on me here.
Well, I did.
You like Ben Carson because he's black?
Yes.
Well, you can say that, you're from Boston.
Okay, does that make me a do you think that makes me a racist?
Uh You uh well depends on who is judging.
Well, I'm I'm Caucasian.
Uh no, no, it depends on who's like if a Democrat hears you say that, it depends on Oh, I see.
Yeah, if a Republican hears you say that, yeah, might be considered racist.
If a black guy hears you say that, yeah, be considered racist.
Well, so uh well, I'm not gonna apologize, that's my opinion, and I'm taking to a couple of things.
The only reason that that I'm a little bit apprehensive about Dr. Casson is the fact that he is a doctor, and doctors are inherently liberal.
Well, he's not.
Well, I hope you're right.
Don't don't doubt.
Let me ask you a question about Boston, okay, John?
Oh, no, you don't want to ask your question.
I was born and raised and educated here in the United States.
And you're the perfect guy to answer my question.
Okay.
All right?
Yeah.
I've I've only been to Boston one time, and it was uh for a funeral.
I was only there two or three days.
But it seems like, John, and when I watch television, it seems like I don't care whether it's Ray Donovan or whether it's a Ben Affleck uh what's the guy?
His buddy, Ben Affleck and Matt Damon.
When I watched, seems like everybody in South Boston is a crime boss.
Is that true?
A crime boss is how did you say is everybody in is every Southy Whitey Bulger?
I mean it or a Sully Sullivan, is it a place you just do not want to end up if you happen to go to Boston?
Absolutely not.
And yeah, you know, like I say, I I'm an old guy and I was born here, raised and educated.
And the saddest thing about Boston is uh when uh when I grew up here and uh and went to school and and had neighbors uh in the city.
Now I'm talking about in the city.
Right, right, right, right, right, right, right.
Everything was common sense.
It wasn't a good idea.
It wasn't Democrat, it was a good thing.
I just want to you do not think I'm a bigot for asking that, right?
No.
All right, cool.
That's we've solved everything here then.
We'll be back after this, folks.
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Um here's Dave, Raleigh, North Carolina.
You're next, sir.
Welcome.
I'm glad you waited.
Hi.
Hi, Russ, it's an honor.
Thank you, sir.
I thought the uh upper card debate was excellent, but one of the best moments of last night came from the undercard debate when Bobby Gindle called out Lindsey Graham for being part of a do-nothing Congress and failing to push back against Obama and Lindsey Graham's response, he got flustered.
He started whining about the fact that anything they do, Obama's going to veto.
He doesn't want to jeopardize the next election.
Yeah.
And Jindel replied and said, I just wish that the Senate Republicans had half the fight in them that the Senate Democrats did.
True.
I've uh I've I've heard we all have uh the latest and it always involves a shutdown.
It always involves we can't do that because they'll shut down the government, and we'll get blamed for that, and that ruins our chances in 2016.
And it it's it's you know, this is it's almost an oath.
It it's almost an oath that these inside the beltway uh uh establishment guys have to swear to, and that is we will work with Democrats, and we will not shut down the government, and we will not do things that will cause a presidential veto, and we will because they all say it.
They all repeat it, it's and they use it as an excuse for not doing anything.
And what's worse, you know, they say we only have the House right now.
You really need we can't do it until you give us the Senate.
So we gave them the Senate.
Now they're saying, well, we uh need the White House.
We really can't do anything with Obama in the White House.
And what it all adds up to is, I think, Dave, is that they really they just don't want to do the heavy lifting.
It's hard.
It's hard being in the opposition.
It's hard taking the fight to the opposition, and I just don't think they really want to do it.
They don't see any upside in it.
And here again, the reason they don't is because the donors don't want to see, goes back to what I talked about the very beginning of this program.
Let me make this point again.
And it's it's one of the reasons why outsiders in this campaign are Really doing well.
Most people in this country vote on the basis of ideas.
They want their ideas to triumph.
They want their ideas to be implemented.
Ideas and ideals.
And in the for the longest time in this country, that is what people thought made the difference in winning and losing.
Who had the best ideas and who was best at explaining and emphasizing and inspiring with those ideas.
And it's not that long ago where ideas were a factor.
You don't have to go back any further than 2007.
In 2007, the American people shut down a Republican Congress and a Republican president on a comprehensive immigration form with what?
Faxes, phone calls, and emails.
That's not that long ago, folks.
Eight years ago, faxes, phone calls and emails still go to Washington, probably in greater volume today than they did even in 2007.
It doesn't matter.
What matters today?
The donor class.
The money.
So you're inside the Beltway politicians.
Ideas are irrelevant.
They don't matter because there isn't money behind them.
Well, there is, but it can't compete with the donor class.
You're giving five, ten, fifteen bucks, a donor class or hundreds of thousands.
And so people remembered not that long ago where ideas were what mattered and made the difference in who wins and loses in Washington, but now it's money.
Ergo.
The American people are choosing people on the outside, warming up to people on the outside who have been able to make the case that money is not a factor.
They can't be bought.
They're not using it to buy anything.
They're just going to triumph with their ideas.
Believe me, it matters.
Back after this, my friends.
Okay, changing ears just a bit in the monologue section of the next hour.
This rag tag group of people Obama's invited to meet to Pope in Washington, and a 14-year-old kid arrested for bringing a clock to scruwel in Texas.
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