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Sept. 4, 2015 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 4, 2015, Friday, Hour #2
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Here we are, folks, back at it.
The most listened to radio talk show in America, hosted by the most talked about radio host and major media figure in America on Friday, so let's hit it.
Live from the Southern Command in Sunny South Florida.
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I want to go back to Lisa in Salem, Virginia.
She held on to the break.
Lisa, I I I need to I I need to just be honest with you.
I've got a little problem here with your sincerity.
Okay, maybe I worded that wrong a while ago because it's not so much that I want Trump working with the left.
I just I want things to get done.
And because even though the Republicans have a majority right now, nothing's getting done.
I mean, we've elected.
I understand that, but Lisa, now stick with me on this.
Do not take any of this personally.
To me, this is a this is a teachable moment for the audience and and for you, me, everybody.
You happen to use lingo that is used by the Republican establishment and their candidates.
They say I'm the guy who can work with the other side.
I can show that we can govern.
I can cross the aisle.
I am the guy who can work with the others.
I will listen to them.
If they have great ideas, I will incorporate them and together we will work to get things done.
That's like showing the Republican base.
That's like Dracula seeing the cross.
It is an immediate disqualifier.
This that's what they think has got us into trouble.
We're tired of the Republican establishment caving and subordinating themselves to the Democrats.
I totally agree.
And Trump has never used that phrase.
He has never said that's what he's going to do.
So when you associate when you associated that with Trump, I began to think, wait a minute, maybe she really not a Trump supporter and has got some other agenda here.
No, I just feel like what I just put things out there the way they are.
I call it how I see it.
We we've had a bully in the White House for the last seven years, and I I just worry as much as I like Trump, I I just worry that a lot of people are gonna see him as a bully.
And I I just what would do people not see Obama's a bully?
No, that's what I'm saying.
He's he's a narcissistic bully.
I mean it's but wait a minute.
Why did why is that not held against him?
Who against Obama?
No, yeah.
Obama.
I mean, you're you're you're afraid that Trump's gonna be a bully and not get things done.
You acknowledge that Obama is a bully, but you're not you don't seem worried about that.
Oh, no, it it bothers me very much that Obama's a bully.
And I'm I'm tired of the conservatives being bullied.
But I don't understand how the Republicans have a majority and nothing's getting done.
That, you know, Obama is, if you don't agree with him, he doesn't have any use for you.
You know, if you don't agree with his policies and his opinions, and oh well, too bad I'm gonna do it the way I want to do it anyway.
Okay, so is is all of this why Trump originally appealed to you?
Um he originally appealed to me because I felt like we finally had somebody speaking out and taking a stand against the liberals and in a way that in a way that people can relate to, because I think people are so fed up with the way things have been for the right.
Yeah, but now you're worried that he's starting to call people names, so you're losing some affection for him because of that.
And that's translating, it's becoming in your mind the fact he won't be able to get anything done because he's just gonna bully people like Obama is.
Is that do I understand this right?
Um, yeah, pretty much.
Because I just I feel like it's okay to take a stand.
I just don't I don't think it's okay to talk to or about people the way he has.
Okay.
And I don't want to criticize him.
This is this is why, ladies and gentlemen, your host sticks with people.
It may take a while, but we'll get to what they really mean.
And nobody better at drawing people out and getting them to zero in on what they really think than me.
And what she's really upset about is she's worried that Trump is in the process of disqualifying himself with people.
He's going to end up losing support because it calls Hugh Hewitt uh third-rate radio announcer, Megan Kelly uh Bimbo.
These kinds of things, Lisa is worried, uh is going to cause people to lose respect for or enthusiasm for Trump, and she wishes that he wouldn't do it.
And I don't know if at first, when these kinds of things happen, these kinds of skirmishes and Trump comments, people laughed about it.
They were funny.
Um I have wondered myself how how tolerant people will be.
I mean, we are talking about presidential politics here.
And over the long haul, how tolerant are people going to be for uh that kind of reaction as somebody who disagrees with you or who you think has attempted to disrespect you.
Um that that's one of the reasons why Lisa's call intrigued, intrigued me.
Now, her first question about, you know, whether Republicans won the majority, not getting done.
Lisa, they're not trying to win anything.
I don't know how else to put it.
They're not trying to.
They're afraid to try, Lisa.
They're afraid they're gonna irritate people like you.
They're afraid that you're gonna criticize them for being mean.
They're afraid you're gonna criticize them for not being respectful of Obama.
So they're not gonna look like they disagree with him on anything, and they're not gonna try to stop him because they're afraid people are gonna be mean to them and say bad things about them and call them racists and bigots and this kind of thing.
So that's the answer to your question.
Now, to whatever I don't know, how representative she is of people who are, you know, who wish Trump wouldn't do it.
Okay, so Hugh Hewitt asks in the names of these terrorist leaders and so forth, and then Trump goes on the next media appearance.
Yeah, Hugh Hewitt, third-rate radio announcer, hell yeah.
Uh or Meghan Kelly, wouldn't leave that one alone for like two or three days.
And you know, I just I I wondered just how tolerant the the Trump supporters for how long they will be tolerant of that, and if if maybe they'll never get tired of it, I don't know.
That's why I am asking.
That's why I took her call.
Now I want to go back to audio sound bites.
I want to go back to yesterday, following Trump's press conference, which we covered, our microphones were there.
And he went out after he signed that pledge with Rines Prebus.
And by the way, in the stack of stuff today, there are all kinds of reactions to that.
I mean, if people think Trump has signed away his chance to win the presidency, others think that Trump has snookered the RNC and Rheinz Prebis.
The opinions of Trump signing the pledger all over the place.
Well, after the press conference, I happen to have CNN and one of the monitors here, and they had four people on analyzing and discussing what had just happened and what they had just heard.
They had Jeffrey Lloyd from Newsbusters and the American Spectator, and Anna Navarro, who is a Republican strategist in Miami and New York and Washington and cigar bars.
And they had uh they had they had Gloria Borger, and I don't I can't remember who the other person was.
And Gloria Borger caught my attention.
I mentioned Jeffrey Lord.
Were there maybe that's oh, that's right.
There were just three and then the and then the CNN host.
There were four people on the street.
Jeff Lord, Gloria Borger, and Anna Navarro.
But it was Borger.
Now there was one other, there was another, there was a fourth woman, a woman who had worked for Trump, been on the apprentice, uh, and Hispanic woman who defends Trump with everything she says.
And she's on CNN regularly.
I can't remember her name.
She's young, she's in her twenties.
And she would not stop filibustering yesterday.
It's kind of funny.
And Gloria Borger's trying to get word in, word in, and she can't.
And she's being patient.
Because I could see it, you know, I can leave, I I know I could read body language.
Gloria Borger was the senior media professional.
And the others were junior to her in terms of experience.
And you could see on her face that she was being tolerant and patient, waiting for the children to opine and waiting for her turn as the adult on the panel to tell everybody what had just happened, or what she had seen.
And let's go to the audio sound bites.
We'll start here with with number one.
This is after Trump's press conference, it's Anna Cabrera, Gloria Borger.
Uh, and Cabrera says, now let me read what he says.
I like Jeb.
He's a nice man, but he should really set the example by speaking English while in the U.S. Gloria Borger then jumps in with this.
What he was doing with that comment was playing to his base, which is the conservative white voters in the Republican Party.
He knows exactly what he's doing, and it's a way to differentiate himself, and he understands, even though he said today, I love the Hispanics, as he put it, even though he said that today, it's very clear that in criticizing uh Jeb for speaking Spanish, he was talking to his core constituency.
Now, in addition to saying this, Gloria Borger wanted to say something that she was interrupted, and I'm not sure she ever completed it.
But during that press conference yesterday, Trump did come out and starts started speaking lovingly of Hispanics, all of those that he's known, all of those who have worked for him, uh, all of those who do great things.
He loves the Hispanics.
I love Mexicans.
I love great respect and so forth.
And Gloria Borger was on the verge of saying, this is not the kind of red meat that Trump's voters want to hear.
And I don't think she got around to saying I could see she wanted to.
She wanted to make a comment, she because I know she started to, about how different Trump sounded in this appearance.
There wasn't any of the rapists and the murderers, and they're all this and they're all that.
It was nothing but love for them.
And she said he's becoming more presidential.
He's starting to soften his tone, and she's she wanted to say that she wonders whether or not the Trump base is going to be disappointed by that, because she thinks that they want to continue to hear nothing about how the Mexicans are rapists and personators and murderers and muggers and so forth.
They don't want to hear about how much Trump likes them.
Now she didn't say that.
I'm I'm I could tell she she was on the way, she got interrupted.
It's my interpretation of where she was going.
And then this English language subject came up.
Now the next bite in sequence here is Jeffrey Lord uh reacting to what Borger said.
Cabrera said, Jeff, can can Donald Trump win the election if he keeps making comments like this?
There was an interesting column by Peggy Noonan in the Wall Street Journal the other day, in which she was talking to a Hispanic friend who listens to Spanish language radio.
The host get lots and lots of calls from Hispanics supporting Donald Trump.
They're opposed to illegal immigration too.
One other thing here that Gloria's saying, and she's right about this in terms of his base.
Rush Limbaugh spent considerable time on his radio show discussing this and saying how stunned he was that it is controversial at all to defend speaking in English.
And I can tell you that really will resonate with the conservative base.
There's no, there's no question about it.
This is the secondary topic that interested me yesterday.
Uh co-equally with the the, I know it was a desire.
A lot of these people in this panel wanted to point out that Trump really backed off the red meat.
And started talking lovingly of the Hispanics.
I'm telling you, Gloria Borger picked up on that.
And she was she was on the verge of trying to make the point that Trump's Trump's basically gonna like it.
Then this English language thing came up.
And that is factual.
Jeff Lord has it right here.
There's I mean, the idea that it's controversial that that Trump thinks we should be speaking English.
Uh and he was just pointing out that Trump's base is not going to be offended by that at all.
They're going to be very supportive of it.
The next was Anna Navarro.
Let's not pretend that the controversy here is that Jeff Bush doesn't speak English.
Jeff Bush speaks English.
If you know more than one language and you can express yourself in it, why not?
I hope that more people learn more languages.
It is a huge asset in business, it's a huge asset in life.
It's not just Spanish.
I mean, it's all languages.
The implication here that springs from this whole illegal immigration situation is that the country is being forced, in other words, to a different culture than the one it has, the American culture.
That it's being, in the words of Victor Davis Hanson, ethnic triumphalism.
And you know, that's not a good thing.
Exactly right.
What is involved in all this is that America is being forced to adopt other cultures.
That's not what assimilation is.
In the old days of immigration and assimilation, the immigrants should come here, they would become Americans.
They would want to become Americans.
They would learn the American culture, they reveled in it.
They loved it.
That's why they risked everything.
What's happening now is that America's leaders seem hellbent on showing that we can become their culture.
And that's what Trump objects to, whether he's aware of it or not, in terms of actually using the words, with everybody running around speaking in Spanish, it's pandering.
And here's the final bite.
This is Gloria Borger wrapping it up.
Romney lost the last election.
He had 27% of Hispanic voters.
In talking to Mitt Romney about that, Romney was the first one to say the Republican Party has to do much better than I did.
When George W. Bush won the election, he had 43, 44% of Hispanics.
The Republican nominee has to do at least that well.
And so at this point, uh Donald Trump has to figure out a way to navigate that what has become a very, very difficult terrain for him.
Well, she also noted earlier that that's how she interpreted his comments, but I'm telling you, I'm on the say this to one blue in the face.
We've run the numbers, everybody has.
If Romney had won 70% of the Hispanic vote in 2012, he would have still lost the election.
And I'm gonna if the Republicans are gonna continue to lose if they believe the only way to win the White House is Hispanic votes.
If Romney couldn't have won getting 70%, then it's a giant mistake they're making.
And I think they're going to continue to make it.
Your guiding light, Rush Limbaugh, America's real anchorman.
Now get this.
The Washington examiners, you know, the Il Papa is coming to the United States.
Pope Francis is heading to Philadelphia and Washington, Antioch.
And are you ready for this?
In a bow to the huge U.S. Hispanic population and the Catholic Church's advocacy of immigration, Pope Francis plans to give his Washington Mass on September 23rd in Spanish, According to Cardinal Donald William Worrell...
The Pope advocates how easy is it to get into the Vatican.
And if you wanted to immigrate to the Vatican, it's a city-state.
So, your Papa, coming to the United States, and is going to give his Washington Mass September 23rd in Espanol, I would think that if the Pope...
I mean, I just off top of my head here.
If the Pope advocated immigration, he'd be praising the United States to the sky.
More people emigrate to this country than anywhere else in the world.
The past year alone, the United States has admitted 1.7 million legal immigrants.
And yet the Pope is going to show up here.
And for all intents and purposes, look like he's protesting our immigration policy?
It's it's it's said here to be in honor of and in advocacy of immigration.
But this is I don't know, it's provocative to me.
740,000, almost almost half of the legal immigrants past year alone, are from Mexico, 740,000.
Which as usual is more than the rest of the immigrants allowed into the rest of the countries in the world combined.
What is this still not enough?
Why not give the Mass in Latin?
That used to be the way the church avoided the confusion over the Tower of Babel.
That is too many different languages.
That's why Latin Mass was used.
So as not to offend anybody or what have you.
Cardinal World said the Mass is going to be in Spanish.
Recognition of how large the Hispanic population of the United States is.
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Open line Friday, Rush Limbaugh behind the golden EIB microphone.
So Il Papa, Pope Francis, is going to deliver his mass in Washington on September 23rd in Spanish.
In honor of recognition of how large the Hispanic population in the United States is, said Cardinal Donald Worrell, the Archbishop of Washington.
Okay.
Well, you know what I did, being the troublemaker that I am.
I went to the Census Bureau.
You know, you can do that at the website, Census.com or Bureau of Whatever you can find it.
And I found out something very interesting.
According to the Census Bureau.
Well, let me just ask you, what percentage of our population speaks Spanish?
Would you?
Yeah, it's exactly right.
You have recovered from not knowing what sub-Saharan is.
12% of the U.S. population speaks Spanish.
That includes Creole, by the way.
All right.
12% includes Puerto Rico.
Includes Creole, Puerto Rican, and Espanol.
English, on the other hand, is spoken by more than 80% of the population.
From the story, and it's from the Washington Examiner, Francis, meanwhile, will use his address to Congress to call for bipartisanship.
Yeah, like they...
This is...
I'm telling you, this story is so fraught with danger for me.
How does bipartisanship work?
on Never mind.
I'm not I'm not.
Oh, that's what he means.
Why is he getting involved in our politics?
Are you serious?
You don't have an answer to you don't know why he would want to get involved in our politics.
What do you mean it's not supposed to be his?
You don't understand the modern leftist if you think.
Let me just finish the paragraph before you erupt in there, okay?
Francis meanwhile, oh, we'll use his address to Congress.
Is that gonna be in Spanish too?
In recognition of all the Hispanic-speaking members of Congress there are.
Just asking.
I don't know.
Francis, meanwhile, will use his address to Congress to call for bipartisanship, something missing for several years, as Republicans and Obama have jockey for power.
In that speech, the Pope will speak English.
Okay, it's noted.
Cardinal Worrell said we have to find a way to work together.
And the Pope's message will be that it is possible to work together.
Just like the way the Pope wanted to work together on climate change by denying admission to people who don't believe in it.
He turned around and refused to allow anyone to attend his climate change conf who didn't believe in man-made climate change.
But I've got a much better question than that to ask.
But if I ask it, I may as well not show up here Tuesday.
I may as well go ahead and suspend myself if I ask the question that's on the tip of my tongue.
Okay.
Let me go to the phones.
Safe route here, maybe later.
Ken, Portland, Maine, great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Buenos Dias, uh, Seigneur Rushbo.
Do you want me to talk in English or other language?
Come was that's not so good.
Hey, listen, um, I wanted to follow up on uh involved the church in your discussion earlier about the decline of the um America's status in the world.
Yeah.
And you know, if you look at the church and what the po this Pope is doing with uh uh being more tolerant of divorce and uh gay marriage and abortion.
The church is uh big influence on the decline of of not just this country but a lot of the world to a much more liberal left.
Um i i he just he's just really stretching morality to to the limit.
Uh when do we st when did we stop following the Bible and uh resort to populist uh religion this I remember back in the what was it, the early nineties, late eighties, early nineties.
I remember uh an incident act up, uh a an AIDS activist group stormed St. Patrick's Cathedral.
Cardinal O'Connor was in the middle of Mass.
And they started uh they they marched in there, raised hell, started throwing condoms all over the place.
And the uh and a cardinal didn't didn't stop it, continued his mass, but just closed his eyes and prayed while all this went on.
And security eventually removed the the act up group.
And when it was all over, Catholic officials uh from Cardinal O'Connor's office made the point that it's not up to the church to modernize or bend and shape to reflect the popular culture concerns of the day, that the church is to stand rock solid in what it believes.
And if you want it, fine.
If you don't, fine.
If you want to come to church or join, fine.
But it's not up to the church to alter what it believes in order to attract members or what is it.
My words of what statement that was put out.
Well, you're theory.
You're you're you're yeah, your question indicates that it in fact what that is what's happening now.
It looks like elements of Catholic Church are bending and shaping in order to further a particular political agenda, or relate to a greater number of pop culture people.
Are you Catholic?
Not at all.
I'm not either, so it's it's difficult to have one expect to pay them pay a price for this.
Catholics couldn't say this.
Um, but uh it's not just the Catholic Church.
I mean, you look at all the churches that used to, you know, you used to look at a church as being the strength and they wouldn't budge, and that was the moral center of the world.
Yeah, you're speaking terms of moral code, right?
The church church used to be the foundation bedrock of that.
Well, they also used to be the people who took care of the the poor and indigent uh and and the needy.
Now uh at least here.
You know, but churches have always ever since one One of the greatest PR maneuvers, and I don't know who did it.
One of the greatest PR moves of all time was whoever came up with the idea of equating welfare with charity.
That sucked in all kinds of churches.
That made them big government supporters.
That made them advocates of a big activist welfare state government because it became equated with charity, which is what churches were known for.
By mean, I mean good.
Because that's how big government leftists who normally want nothing to do with religion precisely for the reasons you have mentioned, and that is rock solid morality.
All of a sudden churches got co-opted into the big government argument and became quasi-socialistic in that regard, simply because it was considered charitable.
Quasi is an understatement.
All right.
Well, Ken, I'm glad you called.
I uh I appreciate it.
Quick time out as we continue here on Open Line Friday, right after this.
Let's stick with the phones and do that open line Friday.
We invite people talk about whatever they wish.
Next up is Jonathan in Monsellar, Kentucky.
Great to have you.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
Hi.
Hey, Rush.
Uh for the uh for the last seven or eight years, um, we've seen Obama say and do things that are ignorant and absurd, and um the media and his supporters uh pretty much carry the water for him, make excuses for him, and uh you know, try to justify it and sweep it under the rug.
Um my observation is that uh the same thing seems to be happening uh for Trump supporters, no matter what he says or does.
Um it's always uh, you know, people make excuses for it, his supporters uh justify it, and uh are okay with it.
And so I just think there's a Well, you know why this is, though, psychologically?
Do you know the answer?
Can you explain this?
Well, I think his charisma probably is um, you know, like Obama, he's seduced a lot of people, and I think that's like your earlier caller, I think there's a problem.
We don't need someone else like that in in the White House.
So I don't think he represents the values of the uh conservatives.
So that's uh Well, I I think the reason you because you you're you're what what you're claiming here is that no matter what Trump says his supporters are gonna defend it, and they're gonna abandon and they're not gonna abandon him.
And even if they won't defend him, they're gonna attack others if they go after Trump.
That is the phenomenon that you are noticing.
And you have said that the same thing happens with Obama supporters, that no matter what he says, no matter how lie or whatever he gets wrong, or in 57 states, focus, there's somebody always around to cover for him, including his uh supporters.
Well, let's let's say that your assertion is accurate.
Let's say your perception here is accurate.
Why then does this happen?
And I I I think there's an explanation for it in in the case of particularly Obama, but I think partially it's true in Trump's case, too.
And it's nothing new.
I mean, I've shared this observation many prior occasions.
I think a lot of Trump supporters have decided that Trump is what they want him to be.
Whether he is or not doesn't, but they have decided that he is.
You know, Obama was a blank slate.
This is one of his uh abilities because of the way the campaign of 200 um eight played out.
Obama didn't really have to get specific.
He all he had to do was portray everybody else as a bunch of failures and portray himself as a great unifier, great guy, new kind of politics, gonna get rid of all this stuff from the past, or gonna have a brand new day, but nothing specific.
He never told anybody he was gonna have death panels with a health care plan, for example.
He never told anybody he was gonna abandon Iraq.
He never told anybody he was going to do a deal with Iran and guarantees they get a nuclear weapon in ten years or never told anybody specifics.
So they were able to fill in the blank themselves and make him a great guy.
Whatever they wanted to be, he was.
And that way you could not talk People out of their love for him.
Because they themselves defined what he was, and it was everything they wanted.
So you couldn't talk them out of it.
And if you tried, they got mad at you for not seeing what they saw.
Whatever it was.
Obama was described blank canvas.
You can paint whatever picture on it you want.
And that happened with Perot.
I can't tell you the number of people that called here during the Perot phenomenon, telling me what Perot was going to do and how Perot was going to fix this and fix that.
And Perot had never uttered a syllable about any of it.
But they were, they were certain.
They were so certain this is what Perot would do because it's what they would do.
It's what they wanted done, and that's what Perot represented to them.
This is why I asked a question earlier.
We had a we had a woman named Lisa calls.
He's getting a little upset here at Trump's, she called it bullying, but what she means is these personal attacks on people if they go after him.
She said, I don't know.
I don't like it so much as I used to.
It's not nice.
I don't...
Well, Wasn't sure that that's the kind of temperament, the end of the day that she wanted.
And she was afraid that if it kept up, that Trump would end up losing supporters.
And I think with Trump, it's not as pronounced as it was with Perot or Obama, because Trump is specific in a lot of things and is confident in everything.
And as such, is inspiring for different reasons than Obama did.
You know, Obama inspired with the negatives.
Contrary to what everybody thinks, it was it was it was negatives and anger that inspired and motivated Obama voters.
There was to me no question about that, even though everybody thinks the exact opposite.
No, Rush, no, he was a great unifier.
He was going to stop the rising sea levels, he's going to unify people, make us all get loved again all over the world.
No, but it was it was negative.
Obama was rooted in negativism and division.
And those of us that studied it carefully were dead on right about that.
Obama got where he got by belittling everybody else.
He might not have used Trumpism type language, but that's certainly what he did.
And he was right in there during his party when you know calling General Petrayus a liar and General B. Trayus even before he had tested.
Obama's right in there, inspiring all of that stuff.
Now, back to the audio soundbites quickly.
Here's Bloomberg TV.
TV markets is the show.
Co-anchor Alex Steele had an exchange with John Heilman, who hosts another show on that network called All Due Respects.
What are you hearing from the stalwarts of the Republican Party, from the Carl Rose, the Russian laws?
Are they going to get behind Trump?
Would they?
Very different categories of people there.
The establishment of Republicans think Donald Trump's a disaster and would be a certain to lose almost every state if he were the Republican nominee that his rhetoric on immigration and other things is dragging the party to the right and is hurting the whole party.
They would like to see him go away.
If they could snap their fingers and make him go away, they would.
Rush Limbaugh is a different kind of character.
He's not in the Republican establishment.
He's part of a different establishment, which is the talk radio establishment, and he is good for Rush Limbaugh's ratings just like he's good for all of our ratings.
Yeah.
Trump's good for radio.
When's the last time we had Trump on the program here?
I don't think we ever have, had we.
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
He did what did he did.
He he called in during Leukemia Thon.
That's right, and he donated five figures.
That's exactly right.
Very very good memory, Mr. You of recovering well from sub-Saharan.
And here is Anderson Cooper 360 last night, GOP strategist, consultant Rick Wilson is the guest.
Cooper said the numbers came out about Hispanic voters, now they view Trump, and it's like 80% have an unfavorable View of him.
With numbers like that, can any candidate in any party actually win the presidency?
Donald Trump is buying himself a lot of short-term benefits and a lot of long-term detriments with that, with a very nativist tone in that regard.
And I think that it's difficult for Donald Trump to put together a national coalition unless he is going to go with base-base base only and try to rev up, you know, exclusively white voter turnout at the end of the day.
Which look, it is not an impossible mathematical equation to get there, but it leads to something I think that is pretty ugly in the country.
So this is what the Republican establishment believes of their own base, that that 30 percent are racist nativists.
This is what they believe.
That's why Jeb wants to try to get a nomination without them.
I'm not sure about that number.
80 percent have an unfavorable view of Trump Hispanics.
The number is different than that.
Trump's been out there hyping a much different number than that.
But I've got to take a break right now, so we'll get into it later.
I don't know where the time is going, folks.
It just zips by here fastest.
Three hours in media.
And we still have one more to go.
Geraldo Rivera says Republicans saying they're going to vote for Ben Carson and just doing it because he's black.
They really have no intention of it.
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