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Sept. 4, 2015 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 4, 2015, Friday, Hour #2
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Here we are, folks, back at it.
The most listened to radio talk show in America, hosted by the most talked about radio host and major media figure in America on Friday, so let's hit it.
Live from the Southern Command in sunny South Florida, it's Open Line Friday.
And the telephone number is 800-282-2882.
Open line Friday is where I, I take off my benevolent dictator hat and turn this thing into a total democracy.
Whatever you want to talk about is fine and dandy, whether I approve of it, care about it, or not.
So that's why it's a great career risk.
I mean, I mean, turning over the content of the program to rank amateurs, but that's what's fun about it.
I don't think anybody in major media takes a career risk like this.
And I'm happy to do it.
800-282-2882.
I want to go back to Lisa in Salem, Virginia.
She held on to the break.
Lisa, I need to just be honest with you.
I've got a little problem here with your sincerity.
Okay, maybe I worded that wrong a while ago because it's not so much that I want Trump working with the left.
I just, I want things to get done.
And because even though the Republicans have a majority right now, nothing's getting done.
I understand that, but Lisa, now stick with me on this.
Do not take any of this personally.
To me, this is a teachable moment for the audience and for you, me, everybody.
You happen to use lingo that is used by the Republican establishment and their candidates.
They say, I'm the guy who can work with the other side.
I can show that we can govern.
I can cross the aisle.
I am the guy who can work with the others.
I will listen to them.
If they have great ideas, I will incorporate them, and together we will work to get things done.
That's like showing the Republican base, that's like Dracula seeing the cross.
It is an immediate disqualifier.
That's what they think has got us into trouble.
We're tired of the Republican establishment caving and subordinating themselves to the Democrats.
I totally agree.
And Trump has never used that phrase.
He has never said that's what he's going to do.
So when you associated that with Trump, I began to think, wait a minute, maybe she's really not a Trump supporter and has got some other agenda here.
No, I just feel like I just put things out there the way they are.
I call it how I see it.
We've had a bully in the White House for the last seven years, and I just worry, as much as I like Trump, I just worry that a lot of people are going to see him as a bully.
And I just, do people not see Obama as a bully?
No, that's what I'm saying.
He's a narcissistic bully.
But wait a minute.
Why is that not held against him?
Against Obama?
No, yeah.
Obama.
I mean, you're afraid that Trump's going to be a bully and not get things done.
You acknowledge that Obama is a bully, but you don't seem worried about that.
Oh, no, it bothers me very much that Obama's a bully.
And I'm tired of the conservatives being bullied.
But I don't understand how the Republicans have a majority and nothing's getting done.
That, you know, Obama is, if you don't agree with him, he doesn't have any use for you.
You know, if you don't agree with his policies and his opinions, then, oh, well, too bad I'm going to do it the way I want to do it anyway.
OK, so wait a minute.
Is all of this why Trump originally appealed to you?
He originally appealed to me because I felt like we finally had somebody speaking out and taking a stand against the liberals in a way that people can relate to.
Because I think people are so fed up with the way things have been for.
Yeah, but now you're worried that he's starting to call people names, so you're losing some affection for him because of that.
And that's translating, it's becoming in your mind, the fact he won't be able to get anything done because he's just going to bully people like Obama is.
Do I understand this right?
Yeah, pretty much, because I just, I feel like it's okay to take a stand.
I just don't, I don't think it's okay to talk to or about people the way he has.
Okay, please.
And I don't want to criticize him.
This is why, ladies and gentlemen, your host sticks with people.
It may take a while, but we'll get to what they really mean.
And nobody better at drawing people out and getting them to zero in on what they really think than me.
And what she's really upset about is she's worried that Trump is in the process of disqualifying himself with people.
He's going to end up losing support because, okay, so it calls Hugh Hewitt a third-rate radio announcer, Megan Kelly Bembo.
These kinds of things, Lisa is worried, is going to cause people to lose respect for or enthusiasm for Trump, and she wishes that he wouldn't do it.
And I don't know, at first, when these kinds of things happen, these kinds of skirmishes and Trump comments, people laughed about it.
They were funny.
I have wondered myself how tolerant people will be.
I mean, we are talking about presidential politics here.
And over the long haul, how tolerant are people going to be for that kind of reaction to somebody who disagrees with you or who you think has attempted to disrespect you.
And so that's one of the reasons why Lisa's call intrigued me.
Now, her first question about, you know, when the Republicans won the majority, I'm getting done.
Lisa, they're not trying to win anything.
I don't know how else to put it.
They're not trying to.
They're afraid to try, Lisa.
They're afraid they're going to irritate people like you.
They're afraid that you're going to criticize them for being mean.
They're afraid you're going to criticize them for not being respectful of Obama.
So they're not going to look like they disagree with him on anything.
And they're not going to try to stop him because they're afraid people are going to be mean to him and say bad things about him and call them racists and bigots and this kind of thing.
So that's the answer to your question.
Now, to whatever, I don't know how representative she is of people who are, you know, who wish Trump wouldn't do it.
Okay, so Hugh Hewitt asks him the names of these terrorist leaders and so forth.
And then Trump goes on the next media appearance.
Yeah, Hugh Hewitt, third-rate radio announcer.
Or Megan Kelly, dad, wouldn't leave that one alone for like two or three days.
And, you know, I just, I've wondered just how tolerant the Trump supporters, for how long they will be tolerant of that.
And if maybe they'll never get tired of it.
I don't know.
That's why I am asking.
That's why I took her call.
Now, I want to go back to audio soundbites.
I want to go back to yesterday, following Trump's press conference, which we covered.
Our microphones were there.
And he went out after he signed that pledge with Reince Priebus.
And by the way, in the stack of stuff today, there are all kinds of reactions to that.
I mean, people think Trump has signed away his chance to win the presidency.
Others think that Trump has snookered the RNC and Reinz Priebus.
The opinions of Trump signing the pledge are all over the place.
Well, after the press conference, I happened to have CNN in one of the monitors here.
And they had four people on analyzing and discussing what had just happened and what they had just heard.
They had Jeffrey Lord from Newsbusters, an American spectator.
They had Anna Navarro, who is a Republican strategerist in Miami and New York and Washington and cigar bars.
And they had Gloria Borger.
And I can't remember who the other person was.
And Gloria Borger caught my attention.
I mentioned Jeffrey Lord.
Maybe that's, oh, that's right.
There were just three and then the CNN host.
There were four people on the screen.
It was Jeff Lord, Gloria Borger, and Anna Navarro.
But it was Borger.
Now, there was one other.
There was another, there was a fourth woman, a woman who had worked for Trump, been on The Apprentice, and Hispanic woman who defends Trump with everything she says.
And she's on CNN regularly.
I can't remember her name.
She's young.
She's in her 20s.
And she would not stop filibustering yesterday.
It was kind of funny.
And Gloria Borger's trying to get word in, word in, and she can't.
And she's being patient.
Because I could see, you know, I know if I could read body language.
Gloria Borger was the senior media professional.
And the others were junior to her in terms of experience.
And you could see on her face that she was being tolerant and patient, waiting for the children to opine and waiting for her turn as the adult on the panel to tell everybody what had just happened and what she had seen.
And let's go to the audio soundbites.
We'll start here with number one.
This is after Trump's press conference.
It's Anna Cabrera, Gloria Borger, and Cabrera says, Now let me read what he says.
I like Jeb.
He's a nice man, but he should really set the example by speaking English while in the U.S. Gloria Borger then jumps in with this.
What he was doing with that comment was playing to his base, which is the conservative white voters in the Republican Party.
He knows exactly what he's doing, and it's a way to differentiate himself.
And he understands, even though he said today, I love the Hispanics, as he put it, even though he said that today, it's very clear that in criticizing Jeb for speaking Spanish, he was talking to his core constituency.
Now, in addition to saying this, Gloria Borger wanted to say something that she was interrupted, and I'm not sure she ever completed it.
But during that press conference yesterday, Trump did come out and started speaking lovingly of Hispanics, all of those that he's known, all of those who have worked for him, all of those who do great things.
He loves the Hispanics.
I love Mexicans.
I love, I have great respect, and so forth.
And Gloria Borger was on the verge of saying, this is not the kind of red meat that Trump's voters want to hear.
And I don't think she got around to saying it.
I could see she wanted to.
She wanted to make a comment, because I know she started to, about how different Trump sounded in this appearance.
There wasn't any of the rapists and the murderers and they're all this and they're all that.
It was nothing but love for them.
And she said, he's becoming more presidential.
He's starting to soften his tone.
And she wanted to say that she wonders whether or not the Trump base is going to be disappointed by that because she thinks that they want to continue to hear nothing about how the Mexicans are rapists and personaturers and murderers and muggers and so forth.
They don't want to hear about how much Trump likes them.
Now, she didn't say that.
She was on the way.
She got interrupted.
It's my interpretation of where she was going.
And then this English language subject came up.
Now, the next bite in sequence here is Jeffrey Lord reacting to what Borger said.
Cabrera said, Jeff, can Donald Trump win the election if he keeps making comments like this?
There was an interesting column by Peggy Noonan in the Wall Street Journal the other day in which she was talking to a Hispanic friend who listens to Spanish language radio.
The host get lots and lots of calls from Hispanics supporting Donald Trump.
They're opposed to illegal immigration, too.
One other thing here that Gloria is saying, and she's right about this in terms of his base, Rush Limbaugh spent considerable time on his radio show discussing this and saying how stunned he was that it is controversial at all to defend speaking in English.
And I can tell you, that really will resonate with a conservative base.
There's no question about it.
This is the secondary topic that interested me yesterday, co-equally with the, I know it was a desire.
A lot of these people in this panel wanted to point out that Trump really backed off the red meat and started talking lovingly of the Hispanic.
I'm telling you, Gloria Borger picked up on that, and she was on the verge of trying to make the point that Trump's basically going to like it.
Then this English language thing came up.
And that is factual.
Jeff Lord has it right here.
There's, I mean, the idea that it's controversial that Trump thinks we should be speaking English.
And he was just pointing out that Trump's base is not going to be offended by that at all.
They're going to be very supportive of it.
The next was Anna Navarro.
Let's not pretend that the controversy here is that Jeb Bush doesn't speak English.
Jeb Bush speaks English.
If you know more than one language and you can express yourself in it, why not?
I hope that more people learn more languages.
It is a huge asset in business.
It's a huge asset in life.
It's not just Spanish.
I mean, it's all languages.
The implication here that springs from this whole illegal immigration situation is that the country is being forced, in other words, to a different culture than the one it has, the American culture.
That it's being, in the words of Victor Davis Hanson, ethnic triumphalism.
And, you know, that's not a good thing.
Exactly right.
What is involved in all this is that America is being forced to adopt other cultures.
That's not what assimilation is.
In the old days of immigration and assimilation, immigrants should come here and they would become Americans.
They would want to become Americans.
They would learn the American culture.
They reveled in it.
They loved it.
That's why they risked everything.
What's happening now is that America's leaders seem hell-bent on showing that we can become their culture.
And that's what Trump objects to, whether he's aware of it or not, in terms of actually using the words.
With everybody running around speaking in Spanish, it's pandering.
And here's the final bite.
This is Gloria Borger wrapping it up.
Romney lost the last election.
He had 27% of Hispanic voters.
In talking to Mitt Romney about that, Romney was the first one to say the Republican Party has to do much better than I did.
When George W. Bush won the election, he had 43, 44% of Hispanics.
The Republican nominee has to do at least that well.
And so at this point, Donald Trump has to figure out a way to navigate that, what has become a very, very difficult terrain for him.
Well, she also noted earlier that that's how she interpreted his comments.
But I'm telling you, I'm going to say this to him blue in the face.
We've run the numbers.
Everybody has.
If Romney had won 70% of the Hispanic vote in 2012, he would have still lost the election.
And the Republicans are going to continue to lose if they believe the only way to win the White House is Hispanic votes.
If Romney couldn't have won getting 70%, then it's a giant mistake they're making.
And I think they're going to continue to make it.
Your guiding light, Rush Limbaugh, America's real anchor man.
Now get this.
Washington examiners, you know, the Il Papa is coming to the United States.
Pope Francis is heading to Philadelphia and Washington.
And are you ready for this?
In a bow to the huge U.S. Hispanic population and the Catholic Church's advocacy of immigration, Pope Francis plans to give his Washington Mass on September 23rd in Spanish,
According to Cardinal Donald William Worrell, the Pope advocates, how easy is it to get into the Vatican?
If you wanted to immigrate, the Vatican's a city-state.
So Il Papa coming to the United States and is going to give his Washington Mass September 23rd in Espanol.
I would think that if the Pope, I mean, I just off the top of my head here, if the Pope advocated immigration, he'd be praising the United States to the sky.
More people immigrate to this country than anywhere else in the world.
The past year alone, the United States has admitted 1.7 million legal immigrants, and yet the Pope is going to show up here and for all intents and purposes look like he's protesting our immigration policy.
It's said here to be in honor of and in advocacy of immigration.
But this is, I don't know, it's provocative to me.
740,000, almost half of the legal immigrants past year alone are from Mexico, 740,000, which as usual is more than the rest of the immigrants allowed into the rest of the countries in the world combined.
What is this still not enough?
Why not give the Mass in Latin?
That used to be the way the church avoided the confusion over the Tower of Babel.
That is too many different languages.
That's why Latin Mass was used so as not to offend anybody or what have you.
Cardinal Wuerl said the mass is going to be in Spanish, recognition of how large the Hispanic population of the United States is.
Really?
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So, Il Papa, Pope Francis, is going to deliver his mass in Washington on September 23rd in Spanish in honor of recognition of how large the Hispanic population in the United States is, said Cardinal Donald Wuerl, the Archbishop of Washington.
Okay.
Well, you know what I did, being the troublemaker that I am?
I went to the Census Bureau.
You know, you can do that at the web.
It says census.com or Bureau of Whatever.
You can find it.
And I found out something very interesting.
According to the Census Bureau, well, let me just ask you, what percentage of our population speaks Spanish?
Yeah, it's exactly right.
You have recovered from not knowing what sub-Saharan is.
12% of the U.S. population speaks Spanish.
That includes Creole, by the way.
All right.
12%.
Includes Puerto Rico.
Includes Creole, Puerto Rican, and Espanol.
English, on the other hand, is spoken by more than 80% of the population from the story, and it's from the Washington Examiner.
Francis, meanwhile, will use his address to Congress to call for bipartisanship.
Yeah, like this.
This is I'm telling you, this story is so fraught with danger for me.
I'm telling you, this story is so fraught with danger for me.
How does bipartisanship work?
I...
Never mind.
I'm not, I'm not, oh, that's, what do you mean?
Why is he getting involved in our politics?
Are you serious?
You don't have an answer to, you don't know why he would want to get involved in our politics?
What do you mean it's not supposed to be his fault?
You don't understand the modern leftist if you think.
Let me just finish the paragraph before you erupt in there, okay?
Francis, meanwhile, will use his address to Congress.
Is that going to be in Spanish, too, in recognition of all the Hispanic-speaking members of Congress there are?
Just asking.
I don't know.
Francis, meanwhile, will use his address to Congress to call for bipartisanship, something missing for several years, as Republicans and Obama have jockeyed for power.
In that speech, the Pope will speak English.
Okay, it's noted.
Cardinal Wuerl said we have to find a way to work together.
And the Pope's message will be that it is possible to work together.
It's just like the way the Pope wanted to work together on climate change by denying admission to people who don't believe in it.
He turned around and refused to allow anyone to attend his climate change confab who didn't believe in man-made climate change.
But I've got a much better question than that to ask, but if I ask it, I may as well not show up here Tuesday.
I may as well go ahead and suspend myself if I ask the question that's on the tip of my tongue.
Let me go to the phones.
Safe route here, maybe later.
Ken, Portland, Maine.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Buenos Diaz, Señor El Rushbo.
Do you want me to talk in English or another language?
Clamuesta.
Clamuesta is not so good.
Hey, listen, I wanted to follow up on involve the church in your discussion earlier about the decline of America's status in the world.
And, you know, if you look at the church and what this pope is doing with being more tolerant of divorce and gay marriage and abortion, the church is a big influence on the decline of not just this country, but a lot of the world to a much more liberal left.
He's just really stretching morality to the limit.
Why did we stop following the Bible and resort to populist religion?
I remember back in the early 90s, late 80s, early 90s.
I remember an incident, ACT UP, an AIDS activist group stormed St. Patrick's Cathedral.
Cardinal O'Connor was in the middle of mass.
And they marched in there, raised hell, started throwing condoms all over the place.
And the Cardinal didn't stop anything, continued his mass, but just closed his eyes and prayed while all this went on.
And security eventually removed the ACT UP group.
And when it was all over, Catholic officials from Cardinal O'Connor's office made the point that it's not up to the church to modernize or bend and shape to reflect the popular culture concerns of the day, that the church is to stand rock solid in what it believes.
And if you want it, fine.
If you don't, fine.
If you want to come to church, you want to join, fine.
But it's not up to the church to alter what it believes in order to attract members or whatever.
My words of what statement that was put out.
Yeah, your question indicates that, in fact, that is what's happening now.
It looks like elements of Catholic Church are bending and shaping in order to further a particular political agenda or relate to a greater number of pop culture people.
Are you Catholic?
Not at all.
I'm not either, so it's difficult.
I don't expect to pay a price for this.
Catholics couldn't say this.
No, but it's not just the Catholic Church.
I mean, you look at all the churches that used to, you know, you used to look at a church as being the strength, and they wouldn't budge, and that was the moral center of the world.
Yeah, you're speaking in terms of moral code, right?
The church used to be the foundation bedrock of that.
Well, they also used to be the people who took care of the poor and indigent and the needy.
Now, at least here.
You know, but churches have always, ever since one of the greatest PR maneuvers, and I don't know who did it, one of the greatest PR moves of all time was whoever came up with the idea of equating welfare with charity.
That sucked in all kinds of churches.
That made them big government supporters.
That made them advocates of a big activist welfare state government because it became equated with charity, which is what churches were known for.
It was a mean, mean trick.
By mean, I mean good, because that's how big government leftists who normally want nothing to do with religion precisely for the reasons you have mentioned, and that is rock-solid morality, all of a sudden churches got co-opted into the big government argument and became quasi-socialistic in that regard simply because it was considered charitable.
Quasi is an understatement.
All right.
Well, Ken, I'm glad you called.
I appreciate it.
Quick time out as we continue here on Open Line Friday, right after this.
Let's stick with the phones.
We do that Open Line Friday.
We invite people, talk about whatever they wish.
Next up is Jonathan in Montsello, Kentucky.
Great to have you.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
Hi.
Hey, Rush.
For the last seven or eight years, we've seen Obama say and do things that are ignorant and absurd, and the media and his supporters pretty much carry the water for him, make excuses for him, and try to justify it and sweep it under the rug.
My observation is that the same thing seems to be happening for Trump supporters, no matter what he says or does.
It's always, you know, people make excuses for it.
his supporters justify it and are okay with it.
And so I just think there's a— Well, you know why this is, though, psychologically?
Do you know the answer?
Can you explain this?
Well, I think his charisma probably is, you know, like Obama, he's seduced a lot of people.
And I think that's, like your earlier caller, I think there's a problem.
We don't need someone else like that in the White House.
And I don't think he represents the values of the conservatives.
So that's.
Well, I think the reason because you're you're what you're claiming here is that no matter what Trump says, his supporters are going to defend it.
And they're not going to abandon him.
And even if they won't defend him, they're going to attack others if they go after Trump.
That is the phenomenon that you are noticing.
And you have said the same thing happens with Obama's supporters, that no matter what he says, no matter how big a lie or whatever he gets wrong, or in 57 states, Paul Paul, there's somebody always around to cover for him, including his supporters.
Let's say that your assertion is accurate.
Let's say that your perception here is accurate.
Why, then, does this happen?
And I think there's an explanation for it in the case of particularly Obama, but I think partially it's true in Trump's case, too.
And it's nothing new.
I mean, I've shared this observation many prior occasions.
I think a lot of Trump supporters have decided that Trump is what they want him to be.
Whether he is or not, they have decided that he is.
You know, Obama was a blank slate.
This is one of his abilities because of the way the campaign of 2008 played out.
Obama didn't really have to get specific.
All he had to do was portray everybody else as a bunch of failures and portray himself as a great unifier, great guy, new kind of politics, going to get rid of all this stuff from the past.
We're going to have a brand new day.
But nothing specific.
He never told anybody he was going to have death panels with a health care plan.
He never told anybody he was going to abandon Iraq.
He never told anybody he was going to do a deal with Iran and guarantees they get a nuclear weapon in 10 years.
He never told anybody specifics.
So they were able to fill in the blank themselves and make him a great guy.
Whatever they wanted to be, he was.
And that way you could not talk people out of their love for him because they themselves defined what he was, and it was everything they wanted.
So you couldn't talk them out of it.
And if you tried, they got mad at you for not seeing what they saw.
Whatever it was, Obama was described blank canvas.
You can paint whatever picture on it you want.
And that happened with Perot.
I can't tell you the number of people that called here during the Perot phenomenon telling me what Perot was going to do and how Perot was going to fix this and fix that.
And Perot had never uttered a syllable about any of it.
But they were certain.
They were so certain this is what Perot would do because it's what they would do.
It's what they wanted done.
And that's what Perot represented to them.
This is why I asked the question earlier.
A woman named Lisa calls.
She's getting a little upset here at Trump's, she called it bullying, but what she means is these personal attacks on people if they go after him.
She said, oh, no, I don't like it so much as I used to.
It's not just that nice.
Wasn't sure that that's the kind of temperament at the end of the day that she wanted.
And she was afraid that if it kept up, that Trump would end up losing supporters.
And I think with Trump, it's not as pronounced as it was with Perot or Obama, because Trump is specific in a lot of things and is confident in everything.
And as such, is inspiring for different reasons than Obama did.
You know, Obama inspired with the negatives.
Contrary to what everybody thinks, it was negatives and anger that inspired and motivated Obama voters.
There was, to me, no question about that, even though everybody thinks the exact opposite.
No, Rush, no, he was his great unifier.
He was going to stop the rising sea levels.
He's going to unify people, make us all get loved again all over the world.
Obama was rooted in negativism and division.
And those of us that studied it carefully were dead on right about that.
Obama got where he got by belittling everybody else.
He might not have used Trump-ism-type language, but that's certainly what he did.
And he was right in there, his party, when you're calling General Petraeus a liar and General Betraeus even before he had testified.
Obama was right in there inspiring all of that stuff.
Back to this audio soundbites quickly.
Here's Bloomberg TV.
TV Markets is the show.
Co-anchor Alex Steele had an exchange with John Heilman, who hosts another show on that network called All Due Respects.
What are you hearing from the stalwarts of the Republican Party, from the Karl Rose, the Rush Limbaughs?
Are they going to get behind Trump?
Could they?
Very different categories of people there.
The establishment of Republicans think Donald Trump's a disaster and would be certain to lose almost every state if he were the Republican nominee, that his rhetoric on immigration and other things is dragging the party to the right and is hurting the whole party.
They would like to see him go away.
If they could snap their fingers and make him go away, they would.
Rush Limbaugh is a different kind of character.
He's not in the Republican establishment.
He's part of a different establishment, which is the talk radio establishment.
And he is good for Rush Limbaugh's ratings just like he's good for all of our ratings.
So, see, I'm doing it all for ratings.
Just like, yeah.
Trump's good for rating.
When's the last time we had Trump on the program here?
I don't think we ever have, had we?
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
He did.
He called in during leukemia thon.
That's right.
And he donated five figures.
That's exactly right.
Very, very good memory, Mr. You of recovering well from sub-Saharan.
And here is Anderson Cooper360 last night.
GOP strategist, consultant Rick Wilson is the guest.
Cooper said the numbers came out about Hispanic voters.
Now they view Trump, and it's like 80% have an unfavorable view of him.
With numbers like that, can any candidate in any party actually win the presidency?
Donald Trump is buying himself a lot of short-term benefits and a lot of long-term detriments with that, with a very nativist tone in that regard.
And I think that it's difficult for Donald Trump to put together a national coalition unless he is going to go with base, base, base only and try to rev up exclusively white voter turnout at the end of the day.
Which, look, it is not an impossible mathematical equation to get there, but it leads to something I think that is pretty ugly in the country.
So, you know, this is what the Republican establishment believes of their own base, that 30% are racist nativists.
This is what they believe.
That's why Jeb wants to try to get the nomination without them.
I'm not sure about that number.
80% have an unfavorable view of Trump.
Hispanics, the number is different than that.
Trump's been out there hyping a much different number than that.
But I've got to take a break right now, so we'll get into it later.
I don't know where the time is going, folks.
It just zips by here.
Fastest.
Three hours in media.
And we still have one more to go.
Geraldo Rivera says Republicans saying they're going to vote for Ben Carson are just doing it because he's black.
They really have no intention of it.
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