Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Well, we alluded to it on Friday, and here it is.
We are starting our 28th year right here on the...
I'm waiting for the door to open here for the staff to defy my request and bop in here with a cake or a giant cookie or something.
I know they're out there playing because I don't see them.
There's nobody on their side of glass.
Here the doors open.
Here they come.
Yes, sir.
We're right on schedule.
May as well do it now before we get started with anything, folks.
There's only two people here today.
Everybody else took the day off.
So look at that.
It's a giant cookie.
Happy 27th anniversary.
Holy smokes.
That's a nice change up from a cake.
It really is.
Happy anniversary.
Thank you.
I'd like to hold this up and show you, but the candles that fall off and start a fire here.
There's six of them.
Same thing with the birthday.
I'm going to blow them out.
Okay.
I don't know what my lung capacity is now with my heavy cigar usage over the course of many years.
Let's.
You know, I just predicted you guys would be coming in here.
You know, I didn't see you on the other side of glass.
I got you a selfie stick, too.
A what stick?
A selfie stick.
What?
So you could take selfie pictures.
Oh, a selfie stick.
A selfie.
That's cool.
That's really cool.
I've never taken a selfie.
So never have.
No, I have once with me and the cat.
That's right.
Okay.
Here we go.
Three, two, one.
All right.
Done deal.
By the way, I don't normally do that, but since this is radio, you got to do the sound effects, so you all know what's happening.
Thank you so much.
Selfie stick looks like a back scratcher, too.
Looks like it would work for that.
Anyway, folks, 28 years.
Actually, August 1st, the anniversary date, 27 years in the can.
We're starting our 28th year today.
And it's going to be a regular program.
We're not digging deep.
We're not going back to the archives.
It's an odd year.
We'll wait for number 30 as we did for number 20.
And we had a half-baked look back on year 25.
But how many shows in any medium have stayed on top as number one for 27 years?
Not even Gunsmoke pulled that off or the Ed Sullivan show.
Not even the New York Yankees have managed that.
And of course, wouldn't have happened without all of you.
Not some of you, any of you, but all of you.
So a heartfelt thanks as we join together and getting ready to go for our 28th year.
Here's the telephone number if you want to be on the program, 800-282-2882 and the email address, LRushbo at EIBNet.com.
Big Republican presidential debate coming up, I guess it's Thursday, August the 6th.
We have 16 candidates, but only room for 10 people.
And polling data is being used to determine the 10 people.
However, and this would be somewhat predictable, since polling data is being used, and since you and I all know that polling data can be used to shape public opinion rather than reflect it, and it's a rolling average.
It's an average of a number of polls.
It's not just one poll.
The Fox News poll counts, but there's some other polls that get rolled into this, and they all get averaged out.
And as has happened, NBC's got a poll.
By the way, Marist, I should point this out first.
Marist said, we're not going to play in this.
We're not going to participate in this.
We don't want to have anything to do with who ends up on that stage and who doesn't.
Now, Marist occasionally polls with NBC, sometimes with others, but they're saying we're not engaged in this.
We're not going to submit our polls to the conglomeration of polls with the rolling average because we don't want to make public opinion.
We want to reflect it.
Hardy, har, har, chuckle, chuckle.
It's actually a pretty good PR move on their part to say so.
But for example, what do you do as has happened?
Let's say NBC wants certain people not on that stage.
And let's say that NBC is participating in the conglomeration of polls from which a rolling average will determine the top 10.
Okay, let's say that NBC goes out and does which they've done, I think, a poll of 300 people with a margin of error plus or minus six.
And let's say, just to pick a name, let's say they don't want Rick Perry on the stage.
You think they could present a poll that shows Perry barely registering in a sample of 300 people or take anybody else.
The top tier they couldn't do much about.
I mean, they're going to be able to keep Trump or Jeb, Walker, these people out.
But they can keep Carly Fiorina out if they try.
They could keep Rick Perry out.
They could probably keep Huckabee out if they wanted to.
This is the problem with this.
And people have been asking.
I played golf yesterday.
Boy, did I have fun.
I hit some incredible shots.
I'm really feeling jazzed about it because it was just a month ago.
I thought I had lost my game.
I even told you people here, I've lost it.
And I had.
I couldn't hit anything.
A strange game.
Well, I was in the golf course yesterday, and some people were asking me about Trump.
Trump is really coming on popularity among the crowd I play golf with.
These are establishment Republican types.
These are the people that run around and complain to me about abortion and social issues.
You know, why don't the Republicans just stop talking about it?
I hit that all the time.
These people are all excited about Trump.
And a big fear was, well, you think Donald would actually go independent, meaning third party.
So I don't know.
We're just going to sit back here and watch this.
I have no idea what is going to happen, where this is all headed.
Well, how do you think Donald's going to do in the debate?
And I said, now there I have an opinion.
Now, Trump has set this up pretty well in terms of his performance on the debate.
What's he out there saying?
He said, I don't debate.
You know, I'm a guy that gets things done.
I tell everybody what to do and they go do it.
I make decisions and we make things happen.
I don't sit around and debate all day.
That's all these guys do.
That's all these guys do is debate.
Well, I'm not good at it.
I don't debate anybody.
They're in anybody else's opinion that matters in mine.
So he set up expectations that maybe he's not going to do well in this kind of format because this kind of format requires deference to the others.
This kind of format, actually a better word, it's formula.
This kind of formula requires deference.
It requires politeness.
It requires manners.
It requires adhering to the rules of how much time everybody gets.
And I wouldn't be surprised.
And of course, I have no first-hand knowledge because I don't talk to these people about this stuff.
I'm not and never have been somebody who wants to be wired in.
I'm an observer.
Some people have criticized me for this.
You realize how close you could get some of these people?
You realize they take your phone call.
Yeah.
But I've no interest.
I just never have been interested in cultivating insider-type relationships with these people.
I don't know why.
Just always viewed myself as an outsider observer.
And there's many fewer problems that way, by the way.
You know, the closer you get to these people, the more you end up liking them or disliking them, whichever's the case.
And when you end up liking them, it becomes even harder to criticize them.
When they get elected to high office, it's not as easy to keep your distance.
And the president calls, you go.
For example, vice president calls, you go.
But a candidate calls and you take the option of not even taking the call, which I do frequently.
And I know that I'm weird this way compared to others so-called in the media.
But I just like to have my distance and as close to objective observation as I can get.
So I don't know anything here.
I've talked to nobody at Fox.
I don't know the first thing about this debate other than when it is.
And beyond, I don't know how long it's scheduled to go.
I don't know any about the format.
I'm just like, I'm just going to sit around.
I'm just going to wait for it and watch it.
But I do have some theories.
And if you look at Trump and the way he's doing what he's doing and why he's doing what he's doing, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Trump's objective is to blow up this whole format because it's predictable.
It's stale.
I mean, 10 people on a stage and everybody gets, I don't know what it is, three minutes and then 30 seconds to reply.
And then if somebody attacks you, you get 15 and a half seconds to defend yourself or whatever it is.
And I think at some point Trump's just going to say how stupid he thinks this is and how unproductive he thinks this is and how basically what a waste of time.
He won't say that because he's there.
But he'll talk about how it's not productive toward choosing a candidate, that it just muddies the waters and it doesn't give anybody enough time to do anything.
And there's no way that all 10 people can personally interact with each other.
Then you've got the moderators trying to intersect and interject and keep control of the thing and trying to make names for themselves too, even though they deny that.
Whoever the moderators are, they're going to be trying to get good publicity when it's over by credit for asking the right questions or policing the thing well.
And I just, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump, I don't know at the outset, but at some point, maybe after he thinks he's scored a big point, I don't think he would do this if he thinks he's not doing well.
I think he would only do something like this from a position of perceived strength.
He would basically start lambasting the whole format and say, you know what?
This is what's wrong with choosing a president.
What has this got to do with anything?
We're all up here.
Everybody knows that nine out of ten of these people, eight out of these, are not going anywhere.
What are we doing here?
This is crazy.
All we're going to do for two or three hours here is tell everybody how rotten each other is.
It's crazy.
It's not going to matter a hill of beans at the end of the day.
What are we wasting our time here for making TV ratings for other people?
Something like this.
I mean, that would be in character.
And how many people do you think would stand up and go right on?
Now, I know this debate coming up Thursday is probably going to be a record setter, ratings-wise, for a whole host of reasons, all of them predictable and understandable.
But at the same time, what people in the Republican Party know is that when these debates are all said and done, what happens?
A Northeastern liberal, moderate, establishment candidate gets the nomination.
And if not a Northeastern liberal, then an Arizona moderate or liberal.
But an establishment candidate gets it.
And the conservative candidates all seem to winnow themselves out.
And I just, I don't see Trump, as front and center as he is, as dominating as he is, willingly permitting himself to be seen as an equal among 10 by shutting up when he's supposed to shut up, by not speaking when he's not supposed to speak, by I just, wild guess.
And I'm not saying any of it's going to be disrespectful.
I'm saying it's going to be like everything else he's doing in the campaign.
It's going to be fresh.
It's going to be new.
It's going to be, to use the cliché, a breath of fresh air.
And people are going to be applauding it except the drive-bys and the establishment media who when it's over are going to wring their hands and worry about what does this mean for our politics.
Because some are going to accuse it of incivility, of breaking down or whatever.
If I have my predictions right here.
Because the formula is everything to the drive-bys.
The formula is everything to the establishment because they control it.
And that's one thing Trump is not controllable, particularly when it comes to the establishment.
So it could be fireworks.
And if Trump, by the way, he's out there saying, hey, you know what?
I don't debate.
I make decisions.
I'm a guy that gets things done.
I don't sit around and talk all day.
That's what these guys do.
So he's one handy set himself up lowering expectations to not do well.
But I don't think that's really in the cards, not doing well.
Of course, we could see.
Trump may be one of these people, and we'll just have to find out.
But when he's the only one on stage, he owns it and is totally confident and all the things that go with that.
But if he's on stage with 10 people, he has to share it.
Who knows?
Is he still as dominant?
Is he as he own the stage like he does when he is singular focus stage?
All of this remains to be seen.
But I just don't see this thing on Thursday night being a standard, ordinary, predictable candidate debate that we have all become accustomed to, which is basically a moderated, long-form Sunday show.
And the guests, instead of newsmakers during the week, are candidates.
And they get questions.
I mean, let's face it, the moderators run the debate.
The moderators determine what's discussed unless a candidate or two decides to reach out and take control of the whole thing, him or herself, which say hello Trump.
That's what he does.
So we will just have to see.
But that's what I told the people that asked me yesterday what I expect in the debate.
If I'm wrong, and if this comes off as your normal, everyday, standard, run-of-the-mill candidate debate, perfectly formatted, perfectly formulaic, with hardly any fireworks to it, it's going to be considered a yawner and a ho-hummer.
And when it's all over, the establishment media is going to claim that their establishment candidates did the best.
And that's another thing Trump has to consider, too, as a lone wolf candidate, as a guy who's busting out of formulas and is not being contained by them.
He almost is, it's incumbent upon him to step out and somehow control not what happens, not only what happens during the debate, but the message afterwards.
The drive-by analysis of what happened will be, I don't know, as, but pretty close to important as what happens there, because not everybody's going to see it.
Not everybody is going to watch it.
And so the way it's reported afterwards, and the last thing Trump wants is for the post-debate analysis to be.
Donald Trump was also on stage and was heard from, said X, Y, and Z.
But the last thing Trump wants is that he was just one of the gang, just one of the 10.
So it's bound to be fireworks of some kind.
It has to be.
And the real question for me is: are the other nine ready for what may be headed their way?
We'll find out.
It's only a few short days away.
You remember that guy in Seattle that owned the credit card processing firm Gravity Payments?
Remember this guy, Dan Price, I think was the name Dan Price.
Dan Price, he made news back in April by announcing he was making a million dollars a year plus as the CEO.
And he made a big announcement to a lot of fanfare saying that he had made a major decision.
He read somewhere that $70,000 a year is the magic number for an employee to make.
At $70,000 a year, you can pay your monthly bills.
You can buy a car, have a decent house or place to rent, and disposable income left over.
So he made the decision that every one of his employees was going to be paid $70,000 a year, including him.
He was going to take a pay cut from a million plus down to $70,000 a year.
And depending on, oops, I just saw the clock.
Gee whiz.
This segment's going to be short, folks.
I apologize.
I went way long in the opening monologue, but this guy, Dan Price, it was a lot of people, what a great guy.
Wow, this is a guy who gets it.
You know, the left is out there always talking about the inequality in what CEOs make versus what their grunt employees make.
So this guy came along and he bought into that.
And he heard that $70,000 a year was a magic number for employees.
Everybody could live comfortably on that with no stress, or at least as little stress as possible.
And he just made it across the board.
And in addition to people who praised it, oh, wow, what a great guy.
Equality of a corporation.
It commands this guy.
Get it.
There were some, including me, who said this is going to bomb.
It's going to bomb in ways this guy hasn't even factored.
It's not going to help his business.
It's not going to lead to a happy, unified, focused workforce.
It's going to be divisive.
It's going to create resentments.
It's going to create all kinds of problems.
And at the end of whatever test period, if there is one, it isn't going to work.
Well, Mr. Price has come forward to announce that it was a disaster.
Exactly as I and others predicted.
Greetings, welcome back.
El Rushbo starting our 28th year behind the Golden EIB microphone.
Great to have you with us.
By the way, Joe Biden is looking serious, and I don't think there's any doubt about it.
Once we learned after his son passed away, once they leaked the news that on his deathbed, the son of Joe Biden, Bo Biden, urged his father to run.
We kind of knew that it was coming.
And it looks like it is.
Also, just to show you how unsettled the Democrat side is, and there's apparently big-time panic finally, should have been in there a long time, settling in regarding Hillary, because now there's news out there that the Starbucks CEO is being urged to run.
Howard Schultz used to own the Seattle Supersonics of the NBA, urging him to run.
And, of course, Bernie Sanders is out there just drawing huge crowds wherever he goes.
Meanwhile, there's absolutely no excitement whatsoever attached to the Hillary campaign.
And so there's a great state of flux on the Democrat side.
Now, one thing that you have to keep in mind with the Democrats, the drive-by media never, I don't care what they report, they never report the depths of problems in the Democrat Party.
If you ever see the drive-by media talking about consternation or angst or whatever it is in the Democrat Party, they'll write about it as though it's insignificant, natural, normal, what have you, just to be able to write about it.
But you will never, ever hear anywhere near the truth how bad things are in the bowels of the Democrat Party.
And believe me, there is abject panic there in a lot of places, particularly in the Hillary campaign and among Hillary supporters.
This is, again, not how it was supposed to be.
Hillary makes her announcements.
How many times has she announced now?
Three.
I mean, that shows you right there.
Two or three announcements, and that was supposed to be it.
That was the message to all the other Democrats, not your turn.
Sit down, shut up, and wait.
It's Hillary's turn.
We are readying the coronation.
And it's not just as it didn't in 2008.
It's not playing out.
Now, we'll get back to Dan Price and his credit card company, Gravity Payments, because it's a teachable moment.
But I have some phone calls up here that I actually don't understand.
I've got two people who think, A, I'm missing the point on Trump, and another thing is I'm wrong about something.
I'm totally befuddled here.
So I'm going to find out.
Marshall, North Carolina, Linda, says here that you disagree with me about that Trump's going to do great Thursday.
What do you think I said?
Hi, Rush.
How are you?
I'm fine.
I was fine until I read what you were going to say apparently.
I think that Donald, the Donald, has made a tremendous impact.
And I'm so happy he's in this just to open people's eyes and have them listen.
And I think he's going to do great in the debates.
I really do.
I think he's going to do really great.
I think he's going to answer questions.
I think he's going to be ready for them.
Wait a minute.
You think that I said that I don't think he's going to do well?
No, no, no.
I think you said, didn't you say something like you think if he thinks he makes a point, he's going to blow the place up?
Did you say something like that?
Well, all I was talking about, I think Trump's going to be Trump.
And if he is, we're not going to recognize this debate.
That's not a criticism.
I was not criticizing Trump.
But boy, this is, I'll tell you what, folks, this is shaping up like Perot 2.
You say one thing about this guy, and here come his defenders, left or not.
You know, I admire you, Linda.
I really don't know.
Because you want a man, as a woman, I want a man who's going to speak his mind.
I'm not a politician who's worried about what he says right or wrong.
How can you say something wrong?
Just say it.
Say what you mean.
And I believe something.
He's a Democrat or Republican.
I don't care.
I don't need it.
I just need to bring it.
I got you.
You and Mark Cuban.
You're what Mark Cuban said?
Mark Cuban says, I don't care what he thinks.
I don't care what he believes.
I just admire a guy that's willing to tell us what he thinks.
It's the truth.
You don't care what he thinks?
And I think that it's gotten more people to listen, to open their eyes a little bit and hear what's really going on.
I have people that don't even know what's going on.
They've heard him say something.
They're like, wow, is this the truth?
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Next question.
Yes.
I'm serious.
There's no wrong answer here.
Do not interpret, misinterpret any tone in my voice.
I'm genuinely curious.
What did I say in my expert analysis and prediction that made you mad or that made you think I don't get it or that made you think I'm wrong?
What did I say?
Seriously, what did I say that made you pick up the phone call?
Well, I've been trying to call you for weeks.
But anyway, you said something like, Trump is going to be, you know, quiet.
He's going to go along with everything.
And then if he feels like he's on point with something, he is going to just blow the place up and say, what are we doing this for?
What are we having these debates for?
This is not how you pick a president.
And granted, it's not.
And it really isn't.
You just hear politicians speak up.
Wait a minute.
Saying that made you mad?
No, it didn't make me mad.
It just gave me another reason to call you.
I've been dying to talk to you on so many points.
Fine.
Let me just reiterate.
None of what I said was intended to be criticism of Trump.
It was intended to be predictive.
I was simply, I'm telling you what I think is going to happen.
I do not see Trump sitting there, standing there passively, waiting his turn, following a formula that is boring and dull and stilted by virtue of the fact that Trump, when he's on the stage, it's his.
He owns it.
This is not a criticism.
It's an analysis.
And I just, I think he thinks there's a lot wrong with the country.
And I think he thinks part of what's wrong is the way we elect candidates, the way we elect presidents.
He's already said he's not excited about this.
And I know there's psychology here at play.
And he's out there saying, you know what?
I'm a doer.
I don't debate.
I don't sit around and talk about things.
I tell people what to do, and they go do it.
And if they don't do it, I fire them.
I don't sit around and debate these other guys.
That's all they do.
They sit around and talk all the time.
I'm not a talker.
I'm a doer.
Well, to me, that tells me he's not going to sit around and just stand around, talk all night like all these other guys do.
He's got to continue to stand out the way he has up to now.
And he's not going to be able to do that by following the format.
Nothing wrong with that.
Not being critical of that.
I'm just trying to give you a heads up.
My take on what's coming.
And it could be all wrong.
He could be a model citizen up there, polite, deferential, and speak no more than any of the other candidates.
But if that happens, you're going to be scratching your head and say, what happened?
My guess.
Here's Jim in Claremont, Florida.
Hi, Jim.
You're next.
Hello, sir.
Hello.
My point is, first off, I agree with what you said, but I think that you've missed one of the points, and that is Trump has a huge advantage going into this if he takes it.
He can fall back on the fact that you folks created the mess.
You folks were the ones who were elected to fix things.
And I've never had that position.
You know, Mr. Bush, are you going to tell me that Ford is fixed while you're governor?
Mr. Perry, are you going to tell me that Texas is fixed while you're that's that's why people are upset.
That's why people don't want you people anymore.
Okay.
You're saying in different words, the same thing I'm saying.
He's going to go up there.
He's not going to play ball.
He's not one of these guys, and he's not going to act like it.
He's going to do something or a series of things to stand out.
And the standard, ordinary, everyday format of these things, which is dull and boring and predictable and dominated by moderators, I think is going to be blown to smithereens.
And since he is running against the establishment and everybody in politics, and he's already called a series of these guys losers or dumb or silly, he's already exposed.
Yeah, these guys, they all came to my office begging for my money.
They all came to my office begging my support.
So, yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
I just, I don't see Donald Trump becoming one of these guys.
This is going to be a debate unlike we've seen before.
It's not a criticism.
Now, you know, the standard ordinary procedure for something like this, given your theory and you're right, that he has a huge advantage in that he shows up with a huge lead.
Do you know how the establishment would deal with that?
You know what the theory in current politics is?
And it happens to be, by the way, practiced a lot in the National Football League.
It's called Don't Take Any Risks.
You're sitting on a big lead.
The theory is all you can do is blow it, so don't blow it.
It's called a prevent defense.
The standard, ordinary, standard operating procedure, show up one of these things, the big lead, don't blow it.
Don't say anything that could cause yourself to lose your lead, be damaged, or whatever.
And that's what we're not going to see.
We're not going to see Trump sitting on his lead and playing defense and hoping not to make somebody mad or hoping not to step in it or not to whatever.
But that's the way normal people play it.
Show the big lead and just sit on it.
Make sure you leave with the big lead.
Seldom is the attitude when you show up with a big lead, let's make it even bigger.
And that's who Trump is.
I mean, I have no doubt that he's going to take this occasion to do what he can to eliminate as many of these guys in one debate as he can.
But he's not going to be able to do that following the format.
I'm not being critical Critical when I say that.
Have to take a break.
Don't go away.
Hey, let me grab one more of these.
Got them in the can here.
This is Daniel in Coronado, California.
Beautiful place.
Welcome, sir.
Great to have you on the EIB Network.
Hi.
Hey, Rush.
Thanks for having me along to listen.
Quick question, Mario.
My comment on Trump is: I want to believe that he supports these conservative ideas he's kind of putting out there, but I am not totally sold yet.
I'm hoping he'll blow things up in a way that somebody like a Scott Walker, Ted Cruz, Rubio, kind of encourage them to break out of this boring political mode and really go on the attack.
Go after Obama, Clinton, Biden, because I think he's going to jump in and throw a wrench at Clinton and really kind of pull the true conservatives out and use it as a way instead of burying conservatives for the conservatives to bury the Republicans, the establishment, hopefully.
So I'm kind of, I'm really excited to watch.
I usually don't put a lot of stock in debates because they're so blah.
But I'm really hoping this one has some fireworks and the conservatives, the Walker or Cruz or somebody can really come out swinging.
You think Ted Cruz needs to come out of his shell a little?
I don't.
I just don't think he gets the press that Trump does.
And I'm hopefully together.
I mean, when Cruz, I've never donated to any political campaign.
When Cruz came out and called McConnell a liar, first thing I did was I walked into his website and I donated.
I can only give him a little bit, but that's what I want.
He's one of my favorite.
But I'm just hoping that.
Well, let me just tell you, you bring up Cruz, the evil Koch brothers.
I say that humorously.
They're not evil.
They're nice people.
They had one of their annual get-togethers, I think, out in California over the weekend, and some of the prospective Republican candidates were there.
And I'm told that Ted Cruz owned it.
That he had the most charismatic appearance on stage, most dominant, comfortable in his own skin, just owned it, was confident, and apparently just blew up this whole idea of man-made global warming, which, you know, folks, this is terrible.
Obama is fulfilling a promise that we highlighted on audio tape before he got elected, his intention of putting the coal business out of business, the coal industry out of business.
He is doing it.
He's literally doing it, all under the guise that we've got to do something about climate change.
And Cruz exposed it.
He exposed it from top to bottom.
He told everybody in attendance exactly what the game is.
Starts out in the 70s with a coming ice age, and that wasn't going to work out.
Then they turned it into global warming, and then it stopped getting warmer.
So now they've turned it to climate change.
And that's brilliant because whenever anything's odd, they can chalk it up to climate change.
You get a lot of rain, climate change.
And it gets cold, you call it climate change.
When it gets really hot, you call it climate change.
Tornado, call it climate change.
Anything above and beyond a normal sunny day is now climate change.
When it's common, there isn't anything that happens in weather that is unique anymore.
Everything has already happened countless times.
But these people get a chance to expose it as climate change.
And young people are eating it up.
I mean, they're buying it, swallowing it, hook, line, and sinker.
And Obama is now headfirst into putting the coal business out of business, exactly as he promised to do it.
So this is really serious stuff.
I don't know if you heard this or not.
And I found out about this at all places while reading my tech blogs.
Apparently, they lit up the Empire State Building in New York City recently with pictures of animals that are dying out, species that are ending.
And you ought to see these young people and these blogs eating every syllable of it up.
Because a dentist went and hunted a lion, we are now facing the end of all lions.
And because a hunter went and hunted a giraffe, we're now facing the end of all giraffes.
It is amazing the way young people are being lured in and sucked into all this stuff.
Something that, I don't know, been chronicling here for, I don't know how, particularly as it is on global warming.
But look, stay on point here.
Ted Cruz nails this stuff every time he speaks about it, as I say, on the stage out there at the Cokebrothers event.
So you get this presidential campaign, and I think you have a good point here.
Jim, I think that if Trump does do what Trump does, you're going to see two or possibly three of these people break out of their shell.
And by shell, I mean the straitjacket boundaries their consultants have them behaving in.
Yeah, it could be unique in a whole bunch of different ways on Thursday night.
Well, I don't want to deflate your bubble out there, but I just saw, just briefly saw a quote from Trump saying, yeah, I really don't think I'm going to be throwing any punches on Thursday night.
I mean, don't look for anything unusual from me, Trump said.