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If you want to get me during the show, Facebook and Twitter, E. W. Erickson, E W E R I C K S O N. Two hundred million dollars.
Two hundred million dollars.
That's the loss estimate for New York City overreacting to the blizzard.
Two hundred million dollars.
Now, who did this hurt the most?
According to the Associated Press, small businesses and hourly workers.
Now, I look, I remember I'm coming to you from Atlanta, and on this day last year, the snowstorm came through Atlanta.
I actually I live an hour south of the city down in Macon, and we got more snow south of Atlanta than Atlanta got, but people were stuck on the roads for 24 hours.
I mean, it was like the Donner Party stuck out there.
And people, it took them forever to get home.
I was on the radio for twelve straight hours because the models were off and they didn't send people home.
In New York did the exact opposite.
They sent everybody home and said, You're not allowed on the roads.
They shut down the city.
200 million dollars in losses.
Now, I only have a point I want to make here before I I move into what Obama did.
But it was the computer models.
They relied on the computer models.
See, one of the things I've noticed in politics and news reporting, even in meteorology now, there's no sense of history.
And my radio station, where I've I've got a show in in Atlanta, and we've got an in-house meteorologist who's been around the block a bunch.
And he sees these computer models, and he says, No, this is shaping up to be like such and such from 1981, and I remember that, and this is what happened, and I think the same thing's gonna happen, and I can tell you what's gonna happen.
We have no sense of history anymore.
The institutional knowledge is gone.
People these days, they they don't even want to pay attention to the history.
They see things repeating and they don't care.
They rely on the computer model.
So here's the point.
The very same people who are today telling you that we're very sorry the computer models got it wrong.
We're very sorry we made you stay in your house.
We're very sorry we cost you collectively two hundred million dollars.
But hey, global warming, those computer models, by God, they're right.
You gotta trust those models.
They're just they're so much more complex.
They're we're even able to make less mistakes.
That's their argument.
These guys.
So you would think that a blizzard computer model would be less complicated to figure out than a global warming computer model.
And in fact, you would be correct.
And they got the simple models wrong with the blizzard.
But they want you to trust them.
They want you to hand over your entire life to them.
They want to scare you into doing it, and just trust them, because surely they're going to get the more complex computer model correct compared to the other computer model.
In fact, where is this?
Oh yes, this just came out from the Wackadoos over at Salon.
This literally, I I I just saw this come across my Twitter feed.
Climate denial gets a billion dollar boost.
Why the Cokes 2016 spending spree could mean planetary disaster.
No kidding.
Because the Cokes might help get Republicans elected.
It could hurt everyone who lives on the planet.
Now, if you think that's something, the Daily Caller News Foundation has a story out.
The Environmental Protection Agency sent a memo out, and this is back in 2009.
We've seen this come to fruition now.
The memo, let me read you some of this memo.
Polar ice caps and the polar bears have become the climate change mascots, if you will, and personify the challenges we have in making this issue real for many Americans.
Most Americans will never see a polar ice cap, nor will most have the chance to see a polar bear in his natural habitat.
Because they're killing them all, those evil awful.
I'm sorry I made that up.
Therefore, it's easy to detach from the seriousness of the issue.
However, oh yeah, folks, there's yeah.
If we shift from making this about the polar caps and about our neighbor with respiratory illness, we can bring this issue home.
There will be many opportunities to discuss climate related efforts this year, and if we do so, we must allow the human health argument to take center stage.
Oh, but it gets better.
They advocate roping children into it through indoctrination and education.
You and I both know they're going to be roping this into common core.
Scare the kids, you'll scare the parents.
Get the kids.
My teachers my kids go to a wonderful school, and they have had speech after speech from people about does your parent text and drive.
You should tell them not to do that.
It's a bad thing.
Now they're going to do it in the public schools with climate change.
They're going to scare the bejesus out of your kids to scare you.
Because it's so much more abstract to talk about the polar ice caps.
And yet they can't even get the predictions of a blizzard right with their computer models, but somehow they've got it all right with their computer models and global warming.
The faith these people put in nonsense.
I just it boggles my mind.
Now, I wanted to get that out of the way because we got to talk about faith in computer models in another aspect.
Barack Obama.
I made a mistake, and I didn't do it on the EIB network.
It wasn't when I filled in for Rush.
But I feel like I owe everyone an apology because many of you have started following me on Twitter and Facebook, and I did it there.
And I owe you all collectively an apology.
It is rare for me to have to apologize.
I mean, unless it's to my wife.
My wife is always right, even when she's not.
I make sure to always apologize.
Did I just say that out loud?
My wife is always right.
So I'm I'm happy to apologize to my wife, even when she's not.
But I've got to apologize to you guys.
Because I did say something publicly, I put it on redstate.com, I said it on my local show, I put it on Twitter and Facebook, and rarely am I so badly wrong.
And so to you guys, I apologize because I said, I said it would take at least two weeks for people to forget about the State of the Union and then we'd move on.
It took less than 48 hours and we had moved on to Tom Brady's deflated balls.
I mean, people just nobody's talking about the State of the Union address anymore.
We we got Tom Brady and his squishy balls, and then we've got the blizzard that wasn't.
All the computer models wrong.
We have nobody remembers what the president said.
But one of the things he did say in his speech is that he wanted to tax Middle America.
Now he spent his whole time as middle class economics.
And to Barack Obama, a guy who was pretty much born with a silver spoon in his mouth in Hawaii, if you read his real biography.
He doesn't understand what middle class economics are.
To Barack Obama, middle class economics is government borrowing to make the middle class dependent on Uncle Sam.
Not spin what you bring in, save money, be thrifty, hard work, self-reliance, none of that.
No, no, no.
That's all anathema to Barack Obama.
It's all middle class economics means dependency on the government.
But to make you more dependent on the government, one of the things Barack Obama proposed was to tax those of you who are trying To save for your kids' education, the 529 College Savings Plan.
See, when they first started, there was a tax on them, and they got rid of the tax, and the amount of use of 529 plan skyrocketed.
The number of people who started taking advantage of them in the middle class was huge.
So now Barack Obama wants to tax them.
This is a window into the soul of the left, by the way.
The President of the United States wants you so dependent on the government, he wants to tax you saving for your kids' future.
Now he's scrapping it.
It was less than a week from the State of the Union.
This may be, I I cannot remember anything that was ditched faster from a State of the Union laundry list than this.
I I mean, look, George Bush called for the privatizing of social security, uh social security reform, and he eventually ditched it.
But it wasn't less than a week after his State of the Union speech when he did it in 2005.
But this may be the quickest walk away.
And one of the people from the Wall Street Journal today, the Wall Street Journal has the report.
It was Nancy Pelosi.
John McKinnon wrote this story.
The move followed a public call by House Speaker John Boehner on Tuesday for the White House to withdraw its plan.
Calls were also coming privately from leaders of the president's own party.
Now let me read you the quote from a White House official.
Quote Given it has become such a distraction.
We're not going to ask Congress to pass the 529 provision.
That's it.
They're not going to do it because it's a distraction.
They really want to punish parents who are trying to save for their kids' future because those parents are creating a future where their children are not beholden to the federal government.
But because it's a distraction, it's because of the politics of it, not because they don't believe it.
They really don't want parents saving for their kids' future.
They want to jack up the costs on people who make money and redistribute it and give kids free education in college where they can go out and not even attend class because hey, it's free.
There's no value in it for them.
Because it's free.
The mind of the liberals.
The president wants to do this.
And the only reason he's not is the politics of it, not because of the principle of it.
He thinks it's the right principle.
And they want to pursue this.
They want to turn the world upside down.
And anything about government that gives order, they want you to think it's bad.
And anything where government can provide disorder, they want you to think it's good.
They're turning the world upside down.
I'm Eric Erickson, Infrarushland Ball.
All right.
I you know, I told you guys you can reach out to me on Twitter at E.W. Ericsson.
Someone has.
And I've got to read you this tweet.
Saying the models were wrong is disingenuous.
The models were right.
The location was wrong.
It happens.
Lots of moving parts.
Yes, lots of moving parts, and you got the blizzard wrong.
But trust us, global warming.
It's for real because the computer models show us.
Or now it's the it's the well, all the reputable scientists say it's real, so it must be.
Yes, all of the reputable scientists back in the day rejected the idea of the big bang theory because it was a Catholic priest who came up with it.
They said he was trying to justify Genesis.
Yes.
But all the reputable ones say so, kind of like all the reputable ones used to say the earth was flat.
Let's go to the phones on this.
Colin's calling from Dover, Delaware.
Are you snowed in, Colin?
Yeah.
It is sunny and about 35 in Delaware.
Well, thanks for going to the EIB network.
Oh, thanks.
By the way, you're doing a great job filling in for Rush.
So there's something called the Bonini Paradox.
Uh, if your listeners want to look it up on Wikipedia, there's a business professor at Stanford, and the Benini Paradox is about modeling.
And what it says is the more complex the model, the harder it is to understand, because it's by definition complex.
And the simpler a model, the less likely it is to reflect the reality of the phenomenon that you're modeling.
And uh and I and it actually, and it's a paradox, and it actually explains, I think, perfectly What we run into in global warming and all these other uh issues where the modeling has become so complex that they're not necessarily useful.
And of course, if we break it down to a very simple model, then it doesn't really reflect all the complexity of uh of the phenomena, in this case, the weather.
So uh I just thought you might be interested, it's called the Bonini paradox.
It was uh put together by a Stanford business professor, and it and it sort of brings light to the fact that uh, you know, you really have to take a look at uh when people start claiming that models are the end all, you really need to understand that that's you know, that you need to have a little healthy dose of skeptic skepticism.
It is amazing how many of these guys put their faith in these models.
I gotta tell you, so it's I y Hey Colin, you gotta turn your radio down because I can hear myself coming back through you.
Okay, no, no, that's okay.
So here's the thing.
I put on a tweet last year, and it got it got recirculated in the last 72 hours, and the invective coming from these global warming guys was really I mean, I was staggering because the tweet was more than 365 days old, and I was totally trolling them, by the way, online.
I said, uh Jesus coming back in global warming, only one of these things is going to happen, and it's not global warming.
They were enraged.
Oh my god, talking about hitting their buttons.
Oh my goodness.
Exactly.
That is definitely definitely hitting hitting their buttons.
And then so anyway, but it's called the Benini Paradox.
It's it's worth looking at when people start putting too much faith in models.
It's a it's a good rule of thumb to keep in mind.
And the other real quick point, and I'll let you get on to the other callers.
So we actually have free junior college here in Delaware.
It's called the need program.
And uh, and I will tell you that the results, I'll be as kind as I can be, have been very mixed.
Uh the percentage of kids who actually get out of this the free junior college with a two-year degree or transfer to a four-year program are minuscule.
Um so, you know, the free junior college that the president is talking about, there we have several years of data here in Delaware, and and if people look at it, it's not anywhere near as successful as I think people would uh you know, the folks in Washington think it would be.
Well, Colin, I appreciate you saying that, and thanks very much for the phone call.
This reminds me of a good point on this free education stuff.
I participated in a young leaders program several years ago with the American Council on Germany, wonderful, wonderful organization, wonderful program.
We went over to we we spent a few days in Munich drinking beer, and then we went up to Berlin for the for the heart of the summit.
And you meet with other young leaders from the U.S. and from Germany, and you discuss issues, education policy, energy policy, things like that.
You have these roundtable forums, and I was in the education one.
And the number one thing that the German and there was a wide range, just as there were with the Americans.
You had liberals, you had conservatives, you had socialists, and the Americans you had you had Republicans and Democrats, and the Germans, you had Green Party, Social Democrats, you had Christian Democrats, you had it ran the gamut across the board.
Very, very mixed group.
The thing that the Germans, all of them said, whether they were conservative or liberal or socialist, it didn't matter.
They were united on a single point.
It transcended their politics and it transcended their ideology.
It was that free education at the collegiate level is a bad thing.
Think about that for a minute.
It united them across the board.
All of them.
I don't know that there was any dissent from the Germans.
All of the Americans, myself included, were stunned by their unity in this issue.
That free education is a bad thing at the college level.
I would frankly say it's probably a bad thing at the at the the uh high school level as well, given what we're seeing.
I mean, we want kids to have an education, but letting the state do it through tax dollars may not be the best way to do it.
But at the college level, and here's what they said, here's why for all of them, regardless again, of politics or ideology.
Because if college is free, there becomes an expectation that everyone will then go to college.
And when there becomes an expectation that everyone will go to college, they may go to college, but they might then not necessarily take it seriously.
And when you get into an academic setting of that order, you want to be surrounded by like minded people who may disagree on issues and politics and whatnot, but want to be singularly focused on actually getting a college degree.
And when those who are there who are not really focused on getting a college degree, they're just there because it's free, and their parents and society expect them to go.
Well, it degrades the entire process for everyone else.
We see this.
I mean, this this explains so much of socialism in general.
We see this in the United States.
Free college sounds like a great idea.
But in practice, it's not a great idea.
Because in practice, it incentivizes people to shirk other responsibilities in the name of hanging out for four years on a college campus, subsidized by the American taxpayers where they don't have to do anything.
That's not good.
We'll be right back.
It has happened.
It has.
Someone has already called for me to be arrested for what I have said about global warming models today.
I kid you not, someone on Twitter said demanding that someone arrest me for for saying this and trying to convince people otherwise.
The outrage culture on the left.
I mean, they are in full protest mode.
Why are they so angry?
Speaking of, they're the confirmation hearings for the attorney general or Loretta Lynch, I believe her name is they're happening right now.
Republicans are supposedly going to ask her tough questions, and then many of them will vote to confirm her.
I guarantee that's gonna happen.
They'll huff and puff allegedly.
I'm not even sure they'll actually ask the really tough questions.
I I had a member of the Senate tell me she she's gonna be tough for us to oppose, actually told me that.
We'll be tough for us to oppose.
So supposedly they'll ask her tough questions.
Don't hold your breath for that to happen.
In any event it's going on right now.
But the she's gonna be asked about, I'm sure, the police shootings and and violence and and whatnot.
The left is much more interested these days in trying to sow disorder.
You know, I was was thinking of this during the break.
I I'm a Lord of the Rings fan.
I I like the Lord of the Rings.
And one of the things that you see in well, it didn't even have to be Lord of the Rings.
Take the Avengers if you want.
Um take the Guardians of the Galaxy, take but Lord of the Rings in particular.
What you see are that the bad guys, they're not just bad to the good guys, they're bad to each other.
I mean, in Mordor, the the they're throwing each other to the big wolf animals.
They're always throwing each other.
They're the bad guys.
They're attacking each other, they're attacking everyone else, the the trolls, the goblins, you name it.
They're perfectly willing to slit each other's throat.
You see this on the left.
I mean, they are coming after each other.
Jonathan Chayda of what New York magazine or whatever wrote that that piece the other day about how, well, you shouldn't lump me in with all the other white guys because I really believe these things with you.
You should be willing to accept it for me.
No, no, no, there can be no dissent on that side.
They will treat them badly.
And I I'm reminded of all of this with this story out of Denver.
And the police uh the shooting out there.
Listen to this story from the Associated Press.
Several dozen people with candles and protest signs gathered near the alley where Denver police officers fatally shot a sixteen-year-old girl on Monday, recalling her bright smile and demanding answers about the deadly encounter.
That sounds pretty awful, doesn't it?
Horrible.
Nineteen-year-old Cynthia Valdez, a close friend and schoolmate of the girl said, We're angry about it.
It's another life taken by another cop.
Sounds terrible.
Why did the 16-year-old get shot?
From the story, police shot the teenager Monday morning after they say she struck and injured an officer with a stolen car.
But oh yes, she had a bright smile.
You're right, Snerdley.
She had a bright smile.
Yeah, and she had friends.
By God, she had friends who want to light candles for her and a bright smile.
Police chief Robert White said an officer had been called to check on a suspicious vehicle.
White says a colleague arrived, and as the officers approached the car, the driver struck one of them with the vehicle, the officers then open fire.
But she had a bright smile.
The outrage.
I mean, it's like the people going and disrupting the brunches in New York City.
Listen, I am not opposed to anyone disrupting the brunch of a pl of a flannel plaid wearing skinny jeans hipster in New York City.
It does not affect me when I in fact I think it's hilarious that they're inconvenience.
But it is pretty freaking ridiculous.
The the the black brunch phenomenon, we're going to go disrupt the lunches of these hipsters who would be standing on the street corner disrupting everyone else with us except it's brunch time, and we're going to educate them on the world view they already accept.
It's ridiculous.
And more often than not, it's a bunch of white kids.
More and more that's happening.
The outrage directed at the police around the country.
Listen, I agree that there are bad cops.
There are.
And there are things that they shouldn't have done.
And there is overreach by the police.
But I'm a conservative.
I believe in looking at the individuals.
I'm not gonna label errors unless you're a leftist.
I'm not gonna label anyone bad just because they're a police officer.
I'm not gonna label someone bad just because of their skin color.
Look at the individual.
We would all be better off if we were conservatives, where we looked at the individuals and the behavior of individuals instead of lashing out of the collective.
But there is a mission, it is an organized movement by the left to undermine police in this country.
It is a legitimate phenomenon.
And unfortunately, there are police officers who through their individual behavior help build the narrative.
This is not one of those cases.
These are police officers who were hit by a sixteen-year-old.
They did not know it was a 16-year-old when she struck them with the car that she had stolen.
I I know, Snerdley.
I'm sorry.
I I'm Snerdley's upset with me.
I'm not putting enough weight on the fact that she had a bright smile.
I I I wonder Peep yes, people loved her.
She had a bright smile.
Now, did she have the bright smile or did Obama give her the bright smile through Obamacare?
That that that that could be something we need to explore on another on another episode of the law program.
But she did.
She had a bright smile.
And I bet where the candles are lit, there are beautiful flowers all over the place.
And I bet there are pictures of her with her beautiful smile.
And that's what matters to the left.
That's what matters.
Jessica Hernandez had a bright smile and friends.
Pay no attention to the fact that she stole the car and ran over the police.
Don't pay attention to that, people.
We can't have you doing that.
Time and it's like the Michael Brown story.
And the invention of hands up, don't shoot.
His hands weren't up, and he would have shot had he gotten the police officer's gun.
So he got shot.
But it is they would rather believe the mythology.
You know, I get ridiculed a lot online on Twitter by atheists because I'm an evangelical.
I mean, I get get rid of you should see the stuff they send that that me worshiping the imaginary sun god and whatnot.
These people buy in to mythology.
They buy into fabricated computer models in which they put their faith.
They buy into the mythology of the bright smile and friends outweighing the police officers who are all monsters and bad.
They buy into the mythology of hands up, don't shoot.
They buy into the mythology of hope and change.
I mean, my God, no note to the Republican candidate running for president in 2016.
Put on a bright smile, give yourself a Hispanic last name and surround yourself with Doric Columns, and you'll get elected by all these skinny jeans wearing hipsters.
They'll love you for that because you will have embraced the imagery of their mythology.
For the rest of us, you could be a shallow oaf with no substance.
Hey, like the president we've got now, but hey, it's all about the smile and the white columns and the hope and the change, even if you don't believe it.
Let's step out for a commercial timeout, make some money, and I'll take calls when we come back.
Eric Erickson, in for Rushland Ball.
All righty, welcome back.
It is Eric Erikson, In for Rush Limbaugh here at the EIB Network.
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That's the number.
Let's go to Stephen in Shreveport, Louisiana, my home state.
How are you?
How are you doing, Eric?
Wow.
You move through topics very quickly.
I try.
I called by the 529 plan, so but so you don't label me as a complete liberal.
I'm with you with climate change.
A complete liberal.
Yes.
You know, uh a complete lefty.
Uh I'm with you on climate change.
Look, it's a shakedown, it's been around some marketing plan, been out there a long time.
It's a scam for money from science research scientists, from leftist politicians, from uh corporations.
Uh it's it's been here a while, it's gonna stick around with us a while.
That's all it is.
They're their answer to fix the climate change problem is a check.
It's always a check.
Anyway, my question today with you is with 529 plan.
I went and look up the stats on that.
So there's billions of dollars in there now.
There's millions of families in the 529.
My question to you that I I don't understand is what do conservatives consider middle class income for a family in the United States?
Oh, you know, I think if you asked a hundred conservatives, you would probably get a hundred different answers.
Hmm.
What do you consider middle class?
Uh the medium income for the United States, fifty thousand dollars a year.
Okay.
Okay.
And if you look at the stats, there's a very small percentage of families making fifty thousand dollars a year using that plan.
Okay, so this is not a middle class, send your kids to college plan.
They can barely save money for a house and a car.
How on earth are they going to put money away for health care and college tuition?
Okay, let me ask you this.
The average let's see, the government accounting office found that families using the 529 plans earned an average of 142,000 a year.
Okay?
Okay, now that and that's three times the average earnings of those without the plans.
Why should parents who make a hundred forty-two thousand dollars a year, most of those people being two income earners, not single income earners, so two income earners with multiple kids?
Why should they be taxed for saving for their kids' education so that they can pay for their kids' education and free up scholarship and grant money for other people's kids who don't make that?
Honestly, I don't see a problem on the face of that.
No problem at all.
Except I would love to know the stat of how much of this money is actually used for college or something.
Well, that's just it.
You you can't use it for anything else.
You can't use it for anything else.
Well, it it's not a tax safe haven.
You put the money into the 527 and it can only be spent on college education.
By the way, there's another point I think you're you're missing, and that is to say that a hundred forty-two thousand dollars a year, that's gonna get by let you live comfortably where I live in Macon, Georgia.
What about New York City?
What about somebody in Los Angeles who's trying to save for their kids' education or Miami where the cost of living too much?
But Okay, so here's the thing though.
Why should someone, why should a family who makes 142,000 in New York City, where that's not a lot to get by, taking into account the cost of living in kids, why should they be taxed saving for their kids' education?
You are when you do that making it more and more difficult for the middle class family to live in a place like New York City.
Why should that be the solution that tax?
Why isn't the solution the root cost is the extreme cost of education in the United States?
Why aren't we trying to do that?
That's a fantastic goalpost shift there, Stephen.
We're talking about the 529 plan.
Hey, if you want to talk about the extreme cost of education, there's a direct correlation in the increase in federal subsidy for student loans to the increase above the rate of inflation of college tuition.
Yeah, that's probably part of the problem.
Yeah, exactly.
So we should probably stop subsidizing college education.
A smaller government would be a cheaper government and make college cheaper for everybody.
Do you think in the future we need more college educated students or less?
I think it depends on the job.
Well, look at the global competition.
Look at all that.
What do you think we need more or less college educated students?
I think it depends on the job.
If we're going to a creative economy, do we need them all to have degrees in puppetry arts?
What about manufacturing?
So you want all our kids to work in factories.
Nope.
Nope.
You're you're playing with generalities.
Well, you really want them to become millionaires and only own business and knowledge in college college.
Stephen use a watercolor brush.
Don't use the big roller on the wall.
You're painting too broadly here.
Yes, some people do need a college degree.
Not everyone needs a college degree.
For the future.
For the future.
Not everyone needs a college degree.
Now I want my kids to have a college degree, Stephen.
Look, we got to leave it there because I got a commercial coming up.
I appreciate that the debate here on this, but I want my kids to get a college degree.
I want my kids to get a college degree, and I want to be able to save for my kids to have their college degree.
I don't want them to be dependent on the government.
I will still, for another 10 years, be paying off college loans.
And I graduated from law school in 2000.
I don't want my kids to have to go through that.
And it would make me mad as all get out if the government decided to tax me saving for my kids'education so that other people could qualify for the loans and the scholarships and the grants that my kids won't have to because of me.
But if my kid decides when he's 18 years old, he wants to go join the army instead of going to college, God bless him, go do it.
If my daughter decides she wants to be an artist, well, God help her when I'm gone, I'll have to work real hard to provide for her, but go live your dream.
She doesn't need a college degree for it.
This idea that everybody needs a college degree, no.
You don't all need a college degree.
I would love it if you were in a position to want to get the college degree to be the computer programmer, to to be the the upper middle manager or the CEO, to be the dentist or the doctor or the lawyer.
But if you're not going to do those things, you don't necessarily need a college degree.
There's nothing wrong with not having a college degree.
Steve Jobs did not have a college degree.
Bill Gates does not have a college degree.
You don't necessarily need one.
Yes, Scott Walker, the governor of Wisconsin, did not get his college degree.
He went to college, he didn't finish.
He had to go support his family.
Didn't get a college degree, but he's a pretty doggone successful person.
This idea that you need a college degree, and then we're going to tax families who want to save for their kids' college degree is perverse.
It's absurd.
It's Obama and the Democrats.
Eric Erickson in for Rushland.
You know, Stephen got Snerdly and me both a little fired up the as we stewed during during the break, thinking about the implications of what he was saying.
If you're just tuning in, by the way, it's Eric Eriksson in for Russian Stephen called and said basically, the people who use the 529 plan, they're not really middle class.
He would say middle class is $50,000 a year.
You know, you can get grants and stuff if you're in the 40, $50,000 range for your kids.
What about the family?
And this is a real world example from a friend of mine, and and I won't give his name, but he makes $300,000 a year.
He's got four kids.
He and his wife both have elderly parents who are in poor health, and he is spending all of his money paying for his kids' education and taking care of his parents and his wife's parents.
Barely making ends meet on that much because he doesn't want his family to have to depend on the government when there are other people who really need it.
He should be praised for making the amount of money he's making and taking care of his family instead of being attacked by people.