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Dec. 29, 2014 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 29, 2014, Monday, Hour #2
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I know you don't think this because we're only Wisconsin.
We have a lot of stuff going on in Wisconsin.
We gave you all Paul Ryan.
We gave you Scott Walker.
Some of you may know of our Republican Senator Ron Johnson, chairman of the Republican National Committee, Reins Priebus.
He's from Wisconsin.
You've got me.
We've got a pretty interesting sheriff, African-American law and mortar conservative.
He's got a lot to say on things, and he's starting a national profile.
Well, I'm bringing him on the program a little bit later on in this hour, Ed.
His name is David Clark.
I think you're going to find him very, very, very interesting.
I don't know.
We've got a breeding ground for interesting, compelling, eloquent conservatives.
And the reason we've developed out there is because all surrounding us, the entire media is liberal.
Everybody's forced to think a certain way.
Anybody who deviates is somebody who's been intellectually challenged his or her entire life because they're forced to defend their point of view.
Therefore, they're kept sharp.
It's a microcosm, I think, of what's happening at the national level.
When I started the first hour of the program, I tried to do this little riff here on what's happened to the Democratic Party.
Now, a big part of it is this.
Obama has been such a disaster for his own party that the last two off-year elections were wipeouts.
More states elect governors in the years opposite the presidential election than the other way around.
In other words, we elected the president in 8 and 12.
More governorships are up in 10 and 14.
Since the 10 and the 14 elections were national Republican landslides, all sorts of Democratic governors were knocked out in 10.
Those that weren't knocked out in 10 were knocked out in 14.
That's what happened in my own state, Wisconsin.
That's how we got Scott Walker in the first place.
The same thing has happened now with the United States Senate.
The Republicans are up to 54 members of the Senate.
It was only a few years ago that the Democrats had overwhelming control.
Obama and his policies have been so unpopular.
Plus, there's this general sense, and it's beyond the economy, a general sense that things are kind of falling apart all over the place.
People look at the Middle East, they look at Islamic State, they look at Russia, they look at the Chinese situation, and they just sense that the United States doesn't know what to do about anything.
And they sense that because President Obama hasn't known what to do about anything if he even cared enough to do anything about it.
Then you take Obamacare, which has just been a drag on everybody.
Nobody's happy to have it.
It hasn't fixed anything.
It's a giant mess for the people who tried to sign up for it.
The taxes haven't even yet kicked in.
You can't get people who voted for it to even defend their vote.
And you end up with these two elections that become referendums on the president, 10 and 14.
And any Democrat, even those who completely disassociated themselves from him, that was in a state where a Republican would even have a chance of winning, they all went down.
I was joking in the last hour about Jay Cutler, the quarterback of the Bears.
He got coaches fired in Denver.
He's gotten coaches and general managers fired in Chicago.
Yet he persists and stays on.
He's been a one-man wrecking crew in terms of people's careers.
Look at the Democrats.
I mean, how long was Pryor in the Senate from Arkansas?
I mean, what did he lose by 20% of the vote?
Senator McConnell in Kentucky, earlier in the year, they thought he might lose.
He won by what, 15, 16, 17%.
The interesting thing about it is that Obama, of course, is the one guy who wasn't a victim of Obama.
He got reelected.
He's been able to turn out large numbers of people who don't otherwise vote, many of whom are African-American, to vote for him in 8 and 12, but it hasn't translated into any other election.
In the meantime, he's been such a dominating figure, I would argue for bad, that he's sucked the life out of the rest of his party.
We had a caller in the first hour talking about, well, you know, all the cool kids are Democrats.
Well, and the cool celebrities are liberals, and it's the right and contemporary way of thinking.
And if you're a Republican, we're forced to defend our points of view.
We're considered to be uncool on hip.
I don't know if anybody senses it yet, or if everybody senses it yet.
I think that's really changing.
I mentioned this long list of Republicans that are likely to run for president in 2016 that are really starting to run now, and the almost absence of any Democrats running, the lack of any rising stars of the Democratic Party, the lack of any interesting American liberal commentators.
All the action right now is on the right.
And by the way, that's divisive action because conservatism and Republicanism isn't easily and narrowly identified.
We're arguing and disagreeing about just about everything.
But part of that is because we actually have people who have ideas and pulses.
Just because Jeb Bush says something, be it Common Core or whatever, doesn't mean we're all going to roll over and take it.
Just because somebody suggests that they may support President Obama on amnesty doesn't mean that there's going to be general agreement with that.
There's passion right now on the right.
You'll hear people argue and strongly criticize Paul and Cruz and Rubio and Christie and also passionately defend some of them because we actually have ideas, we have thoughts, we have opinions, we have beliefs, and these are interesting people who have ideas that have shared them.
What's over there on the other side?
As I say, part of it is just so many of them have been defeated.
You can't name a Democratic governor.
You try to go on the air and defend his policies.
Nobody wants to watch you.
Even the liberals don't want to watch MSNBC.
They are worn out defending Obama because they can't defend it.
I mean, what's the case to be made for how he's handled and then fill in the blank anything?
The one thing that's been positive during two good things have happened in this country during Barack Obama.
The stock market has roared up, and we've got a great oil industry.
Well, liberals don't like either of those two things, so they can't crow about that.
They don't want to crow about a stock market booming.
That's the one percentage they don't like.
And they sure don't want to brag that under President Obama, we developed a significant American oil industry.
They hate oil.
So they got really nothing left to say.
1-800-282-2882 is the Rush Limbaugh phone number.
Let's go to Elysian, Minnesota.
Betty.
Betty, you're on the Rush program with Mark Belling.
Good.
I can barely hear you.
Well, I'll talk as loud as I can.
Okay.
Yes.
I finally got through.
I'm so sick of hearing about Bush.
I'm so sick of hearing about Clintons.
I'm so sick of hearing about these monarchs that they're trying to make our country into.
Because we don't have a monarch country where it goes from one family member to another family member to another family member.
Well, that is the flaw with the Jeb Bush campaign.
The Republicans can't keep electing presidents who are only last named Bush.
I mean, we did it with H.W. Bush.
We did it with W. Bush to turn then to Jeb.
And if Jeb Bush wasn't George W.'s brother, he might have a campaign, or maybe he wouldn't.
Maybe the only reason he's known is because he is a Bush.
The same thing as you say with the Clintons.
Bill Clinton is now politically popular.
So therefore, because the Democrats can't, by constitution, run him again, they're dredging up Hillary and dragging her out.
There is a sense of imperialism about the whole thing.
I do think, for the reasons that you state, Betty, there's going to be a backlash to this kind of anointing of Jeb Bush.
Well, Jeb's interested in running.
Jeb's going to run because a lot of people don't want him.
The problem is there's so many other Republicans running that, you know, 2, 3, 4% may support Ted Cruz.
2, 3, 4, 5, 6% may support Rand Paul.
2, 3, 4, 5% might support Ben Carson.
2, 3, 4, 5% might support Scott Walker.
All those 2, 3, 4, 5% doesn't develop yourself as much of an alternative.
There will have to be the emergence of two or three challengers to either Jeb or Mitt Romney for one of these people that are down in the pack to run.
They really are all victimized, though, by the fact that there are so doggone, many of them.
Unlike on the Democratic side, where if you're a Democrat and you're not going to vote for Hillary, well, you're probably going to vote for Elizabeth Warren.
It becomes an either-or.
In this case, the depth of the Republican field works against a lot of people in that field.
But I suspect that your antipathy toward Jeb Bush, just because he is a Bush, is felt by a lot of people.
Thank you for the call.
Let's go to Jeb Bush's state, Florida, Orange Park, Florida.
Scott, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program with Mark Belling.
Hi, Mark.
How are you?
I'm great.
I just wanted to make a comment.
I really don't think it matters whether we know who the strong Republic or Democrat is.
The media is going to prop them up anyways.
They're going to make them seem like a great Boy Scout or Girl Scout compared to the Republican Party.
I don't deny that.
However, they can't do that in any election other than president, or you wouldn't have seen happen in 10 what happened in 10 or what happened in 14.
Even with that, whomever does win on the Democratic side, and you could probably narrow it down right now, it's either going to be Hillary or Elizabeth Warren.
I mean, Bernie Sanders, I mean, he's a self-identified socialist.
I can't imagine the Democrats going that far out into Wackoville.
The one that they choose, it's not like they have a lot of options to be able to pick from.
The Republican side will have a tremendous vetting process because there are simply so many people seeking the position.
Just in terms of political strength, it makes sense that if you have 37 applicants for a job, as opposed to three applicants for a job, you've got a better chance of getting somebody who's pretty strong if you go on the other side.
As for the media and the propping up process that you describe, as I say, there's something happening right now, and it's relatively recent, in which the ability of the media to do that anointing may be somewhat limited.
Nobody watches the evening newscast anymore.
The liberal pundits don't seem to exist.
Even the Hollywood left, when you think of who they are, they're the old goats too.
It's Streisand and Larry David and all these over 65 people.
I don't even know that the coolness exists with that anymore.
I just think things have changed, and there's got to be some reason why, for the first time in my life, and probably the first time in your life, there's like no Democrats out there that anybody knows.
So you're right, one of them will become the candidate for president, and the media may try to prop that person up.
But underlying, under the current, it sure is interesting that the Republicans have gone from the party that had nothing but old farts.
Okay, nominate the next guy online.
We'll put up H.W. Bush because he was Reagan's vice president.
Okay, now it's Dole's turn.
Now it's McCain's turn.
That's what we were for the longest time.
Now look who that is.
That's their side.
Used to be, you know, just go back to the 90s.
Who were the up-and-coming in their mid-40s, early 50s Democrats?
There were a lot of them.
There was Clinton.
There was Gore.
There's John Edwards.
All those kind of rising, emerging American political figures.
They're mostly pretty much over on the Democrat side.
Now, they don't have any of them.
Whereas the whole Republican Party seems to be men and women in their 40s and their 50s.
I'm Mark Delling sitting in for Rush Limbaugh.
I'm Mark Delling filling in for Rush Limbaugh.
The liberals are looking ahead to 2016 and they're saying, hell, you know, a lot of the senators that are going to run for reelection, they're the ones that were elected in 2010, the Republicans, they'll have a hard time keeping the Senate.
The Democrats just lost the Senate a month ago rather than try to figure out why they, well, don't worry, we'll get it back in two years when all the Republicans have to run again.
True, Republicans are going to have to defend a lot.
True, the Democratic vote base tends to turn out more in presidential elections than the off-year elections.
Still, I'm on this theory that what you had in 2008 and 2012 was almost a revival, a candidate that people had such hope in, such faith in, that he was aspirational for a lot of African Americans, that there were a lot of Americans who wanted to prove that we are a unified country,
that we're not a racist country, that Obama demonstrated that.
If Obama had been just a good president, as opposed to the debacle, the train wreck that he is, he would have gone down as one of the great American heroes.
And there were so many people who had such faith in that.
And I think a lot of those are people who pretty much don't vote.
They're not all that ideological.
They don't have a lot of thoughts on things.
And he turned out this mass of voters in 2008 and 2012.
And that those elections, they're actually the aberrational ones.
Because pretty much all the others, going back to 2000, are elections that the Republicans have won.
If there was some great, giant, huge move toward, we want to be led by Democrats in America, most of the states would have Democratic governors.
They don't.
Most states have Republican governors.
Look at some of the giant liberal states.
And look at the poor, miserable excuses for governors that they trotted out.
Illinois just got rid of their governor, Pat Quinn.
You know how terrible he was?
He was clueless.
That's Obama's home state.
That's a 60% Democrat state right now.
It's as blue as can be, and he lost.
I mean, Illinois is headed toward bankruptcy.
They just kept piling up the debt and piling up the debt and giving the money to the unions.
He had no answer, no explanation for that.
Shrugged his shoulders, raised taxes, borrowed more money.
He's kind of typical, though.
If the majority of Americans wanted to be governed by Democrats, you wouldn't have more Republicans in the House of Representatives.
And the House of Representatives is the best indication of where America is because it's 435 different districts, all of equal population.
The Republicans have more seats in the House right now than they've had in decades.
At the local level, you want to defeat a candidate, get outside of a big city.
You want to defeat a candidate at local level, just call him a liberal.
It becomes the best way to ostracize that person.
Look at the red and blue color-coded maps of how people voted in the congressional districts in the last election.
This whole nation's red.
You've got on the two coasts, some blue.
And in the big cities where there are racial minorities, blue.
Other than that, overwhelmingly, red.
Look at the culture in terms of who people are interested in hearing from.
They tune in Fox News in droves.
They listen to conservative talk show hosts.
Rush has been around now for a quarter century and he's still the big guy.
He's still number one.
And the number two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, and 13, they're conservatives.
People don't want to hear from liberals.
When you do a talk show, you've got to talk for three hours like I've got to talk here.
Liberals can do five seconds of bumper stickers.
The cops killed that guy.
They're terrible.
Black Lives Matter.
Try to develop some thought about how to deal with these problems.
What are our solutions?
You get nowhere with that.
The reason there are no liberal talk show hosts is nobody wants to hear from liberals.
In terms of the states, where you've got all these different demographics, different issues, the one thing that America is making clear is they want their state to be run by a Republican.
Now, as I say, there is this problem that the Democrats do better in presidential elections than in all the others, and the Republicans have to figure out a way to overcome that.
But if, and I admit it's an if because I do not know, if 2008 and 2012 were mostly just about Obama and how vested some people were in him winning, then it means that they were the aberrations.
They were the mistakes.
They were the exceptions.
If being a Democrat and being a liberal really was the place to be, I just think you'd find more of them right now.
I look at this list of Republicans running.
We've never had this many Republicans running for president.
And the reason so many of them are running is they're all kind of credible people.
And the great debates that we're having in our society right now on almost all the issues are all within the right.
The left has nothing to offer and nobody to offer it.
Mark Bellingin for Rush.
I'm the guy from Milwaukee.
Who was here Friday?
Was it Eric?
Eric Erickson.
I've been working all week on it.
There's got to be a joke.
I can, Eric is, he's a great guy.
Red State is his thing.
And he's an excellent fill-in host.
There's got to be something I can do with his name.
Like, all I could come up with is that if Eric had a son named Eric, Eric Erickson's son, Eric would be Eric Erickson's son.
There's nothing on that.
Then we got Buck.
I mean, Buck?
Is that Buck's real name?
Buck Sexton?
That is his name.
That is his name.
I just have the regular old Wisconsin name.
And as I said, we've got a lot of interesting things going on in my state.
And Milwaukee, for being just regular old Milwaukee, is sure producing some interesting people.
One of them is, I can say my sheriff because I am a resident of Milwaukee County, Wisconsin.
His name is David Clark.
You may have seen him interviewed on some other national forums.
He's got a lot of interesting things to say, and I want to kick around a few contemporary issues with him right now.
Sheriff, good afternoon.
Good afternoon, Mark.
We're glad to have you from here in Milwaukee.
I want to, just because it's been in the news so much the last several weeks, I want you to comment on your thoughts on the anti-police protests across the United States and how what happened in Ferguson, Missouri, and the criticism of the way that case was handled seemed to morph into general criticism of police.
How did that happen, and what are your thoughts on it?
Well, I'm discussed by some very influential people in the United States, including President Obama, including Attorney General Eric Holder, including the mayor of one of the landmark cities in America, New York, Mayor de Blasio, how they've been on this crusade to malign, maliciously malign the American police officer all across the United States with this broad stroke.
In each of these cases, starting in Ferguson, that became the initial one, really.
If we look at the common denominators in that one, New York with Garner, and then here in Milwaukee with Dantre Hamilton, the one common or the golden thread that weaves through all of those is criminal activity.
In Milwaukee, Dantre Hamilton was viciously beating a Milwaukee police officer with the police officer's nightstick that he took away.
In Ferguson, Missouri, the same thing there with Mike Brown, where he attacked and tried to disarm a police officer.
Now in New York, a little different circumstance, and they're all different, but more passive resistance, but resistance nonetheless, where Eric Garner resisted the NYPD's attempts to take him into custody.
So instead of focusing on the behavior of too many young black males in these urban centers across America, the left tries to deflect.
It's a diversion tactic away from what's really ailing these areas and focus their unjustified attacks on the police.
What's bothered me about this is this use of this slogan, Black Lives Matter, as if the rest of us don't think black lives matter.
What has bothered me about this is that while you may have differing opinions about these various police deaths, and some black Americans think that they're treated badly by police for no good reason other than their skin color, it certainly isn't the largest problem in the African American community.
Black person dies in the United States, the victim of a gunshot today.
Very likely it's going to be another black person that killed that person, likely a criminal.
The education environment in so many urban centers is terrible.
The black family has become an endangered situation.
Yet they go in the gripe about the police.
I wish the sharptons of the world, I wish the people who are going out on the street saying Black Lives Matter would raise their voices and their passion for some of these other issues.
Your thoughts on that?
Well, Black Lives Matter, when I think of that, the only group, I shouldn't say the only, one of the biggest groups in the United States that actually believes that is the American police officer who every day puts on the uniform and the badge and goes into these American ghettos and does puts their best foot forward and tries to do everything they can to help stop people from killing each other, raping, robbing, and generally pillaging the community.
And that's not the entire community because the overwhelming amount of blacks that live in these American ghettos are good law-abiding citizens, but they're under the control of the criminal element.
When I look at the data, because the data doesn't support that false narrative that you know that's out there, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, between 2012 and 2013, 80% of the homicide victims in this city are black, and 75% of the known suspects in those homicides are black.
When you look at figures like in 2011 and 2012, and this is from the CDC, 386 whites were killed by police officers in confrontations in those two years.
Compare that to just 140 black males that were killed by police officers in those interactions.
And since 1999, again from the CDC, police use of deadly force against black males, and we're talking between the ages of 15 and 34, is down 75%.
So the data doesn't suggest that false narrative.
And this is more a scheme to, again, to deflect away from the real problems facing blacks living in these American ghettos.
And it's a result of failed liberal government policies.
These areas have characteristics like generational poverty, massive black male unemployment, failing schools.
And sure, some of the stuff these pathologies are self-inflicted.
When you drop out of school, when you don't embrace education, when you fail to stay consistently employed no matter how menial the job is, you're kind of contributing to your own dilemma.
But at the same time, many of these individuals aren't using their critical thought skills to peel back the layers, like I do, for people and show them what's really going on and get them to realize that it is these failed liberal government policies, it is this welfare state that's been propped up by liberal politicians that has brought nothing but misery to the lives of blacks living in these American ghettos.
For people who are listening on the Rush program who are not familiar with Sheriff Clark, Sheriff Clark is black.
He's one of the few African-American leaders who is an identifiable conservative and speaks out on these issues.
It just seems to me that when you have a civil rights leadership that still consists primarily of Al Sharpkin and Jesse Jackson, and nobody is stepping forward to offer a new or a different vision, that these things become self-perpetuating.
Now, you obviously are an exception, and I should probably tell the Rush audience that for those of us who are conservatives, we consider Sheriff Clark to be inspiring and an eloquent leader, but that's not the portrayal of him from most of the Milwaukee media.
And I think you've spoken that the local newspaper and some of the TV stations, they portray you as something of a nut for speaking out this way.
Do you believe that the way they've attempted to marginalize you in Milwaukee is one of the reasons why so few African American leaders have spoken out about the problems that largely have to be solved from within?
Without a doubt, it's one of those things where an entire media establishment here in Milwaukee anyway comes down on you.
They subject you to the kind of stuff that you just mentioned, the attacks, the name-calling.
But I don't let that dissuade or bother me.
Look, I'm a hometown boy.
I'm from Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
We have an entire generation of young people right now that need a better way.
They need better role modeling.
They don't have fathers in their lives going up in that single-parent environment because of the war declared on the black family by these promoters of a welfare state and these failed liberal government policies.
And I'm trying to be a counter message to that.
And I'm trying to do it by example, Mark, and I think you know that, okay?
I was the product of a two-parent family.
We didn't have any money, but my parents understood that the way out of this cycle of generational poverty was to use education as the vehicle out of it.
So they got us to embrace education.
I did that.
I recently completed my master's degree.
Just to, you know, because I didn't need it, having reached the pinnacle of my profession, but I wanted to be an example to young people to show them that education has no finish line.
I preach a message here with young black people, but people in general here, all young people, self-help, self-reliance, self-discipline, self-motivation, the ability to overcome obstacles.
Those are virtues that many of our young people, but specifically young black people, don't have instilled in them from early on.
So I try to be that example that you can make it in America.
Mark, I made my peace with America a long time ago, and I paid that, I should say, I stamped that debt for the past since slavery paid in full.
And, you know, I don't tell people to forget about slavery.
I said forgive.
Because if you don't forgive, and if I didn't forgive, I was not going to be able to shed that emotional baggage that comes along with that, that there's this racist and discriminatory boogeyman lurking around every corner and you can't make it in America.
I rejected those false notions a long time ago so that I could participate in the mainstream and take advantage of everything that America has to offer.
America's come a long way from our racist and our racist past in slavery.
Racism exists, but it's under, it's been forced underground and it's episodic now.
It does not lurk around every corner.
It's not systemic like the President of the United States or he said it's institutional.
In 2014, as a black man sits in the White House in Washington, D.C., he's going to say that discrimination and racism is institutional in America.
If he was institutional, he couldn't be the president.
He is the institution.
That went out and voted for him.
Bo Snerdley is demanding that I ask you a question, and I promise him and you that I will do so.
I do want to ask you a political question.
You obviously speak very conservatively.
For that reason, you've been a target in Milwaukee.
There was more money spent in the campaign to oust you in the election this past year than probably any sheriff in the United States has ever had run.
They spent more than a million dollars in a Milwaukee sheriff's race, yet in a county that votes overwhelmingly Democratic, you did win.
Comment both on the desire by somebody on the left in Milwaukee to get rid of you and the fact that your message, even in a liberal county, resonated enough that you survived and you won.
Well, there's a number of reasons for that.
And one of them is talk radio.
You were very helpful and instrumental in helping me get out the vote.
But my message transcends race.
I think it transcends a lot of other political categories.
It's one of common sense.
Look, work hard, strive, sure you're going to fail.
Sure, you're going to face obstacles.
But I also preach a message here with the high crime of people being able to defend themselves.
That transcends race.
So I think it's my message.
And the biggest thing the left fears, because you're right, I mean, that kind of money spent on a sheriff's primary is unprecedented in the United States of America ever.
But it's because the left fears that my message will begin to resonate.
And they feel they better fear they better snuff that message out now before it starts to get to too many ears.
Because my objective, Mark, it's no longer about me.
And it hasn't been about me for a long time.
But my message is to get people to open their eyes, to peel back the layers of this psychological torment that the left pulls on the minds of black people and get them to critically think and take a look and figure out for themselves.
I don't tell people what to think.
I just say, hey, here's the data.
Here's what's going on.
Because I trust that individuals can figure this stuff out for themselves.
I'm running up against the break right here, and I'm going to ask you to come back and join me after the break because Mr. Sterdley is insisting that I ask you a question, and I want to put it to you right now and then think about it during the break.
And that is whether or not police officers ever have to be accountable for anything.
And do you not accept that there is bad behavior on the part of some police officers toward black Americans?
I want to put that question to Sheriff Clark when we come back.
Mark Bellingham for Rush.
Mark Bellingin for Rush Limbaugh.
I'm talking to Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clark.
Sheriff Clark, we've been talking about a lot of issues in urban America and the attitude that Americans have, or some black Americans have, toward police officers.
There is, I think, though, and on the other hand, there are just way too many American blacks, law-abiding citizens, who say they have this experience.
They feel as though they're constantly suspects, that they are treated differently, that they are pulled over for no reason, and that there may be a more violent response on the part of some police officers toward individuals who are black, and no one ever does anything about it.
And some of these are people who I think aren't really cop bashers, but they believe that there is an issue here.
Now, I know that you're somebody that stands up for professional standards.
In fact, you've tried to fire people on your own force who you felt needed to be disciplined.
I want you to respond, though, to that concern that some people believe that all police officers are just being given a blanket pass in some of these situations.
Well, Mark, as I indicated, there's no data to suggest that's true.
Look, I've made this.
I did a 30-second ad recently for the local area here in support of police, and I admit, I said, look, we're not perfect.
We're far from it.
There's no doubt about that.
But 99.9 plus percent of the law enforcement officers in the United States are our community's finest, and they go out every day and put their best foot forward.
There are cops from time to time who will go over to the dark side.
As a law enforcement executive, it is my job to monitor that and to weed those people out.
And I think we do a good job of weeding out people in this profession who don't belong here.
So when I hear these claims, and I'm not going to dismiss them totally out of hand, but the fact is, a lot of these are emotional claims.
If you get pulled over for driving a car with expired plates, you may think you're being pulled over because you're black, but the fact is you have expired plates and it's a violation of the law.
The same with some of these other probable cause reasons for the police stopping you.
So a lot of it is based on emotion.
A lot of it is based on the fact that people like Al Sharpton, like Jesse Jackson and other race hustlers are filling these young people's head with this poison that every time something happens to them in the United States of America, they quickly make the connection to some sort of racist, nefarious intent.
When it's just simply not true, I say it's not true because the data doesn't support what these individuals are claiming.
I want to thank you for joining us, and thank you for giving me my opportunity to introduce you to a national audience.
Thank you very much, Sheriff.
Milwaukee County Sheriff.
Thank you.
Happy New Year.
Great.
Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clark.
I want to comment on what he just said in that answer.
And I'm going to do that in a moment here.
Mark Bellingin for Rush Lindborg.
Mark Bellingin for Rush.
I got to tell you, sitting here, Bo Snerdley, who is Rush's producer, African-American male himself, you don't buy everything that Sheriff Clark had to say.
You say it's not your experience, right?
His argument is take New York, which had a stop and frisk program aimed at trying to get illegal guns off the street.
The majority of people who were stopped were black.
Well, maybe that's because the neighborhoods that they went into tended to be higher crime neighborhoods, which tend to be black neighborhoods.
There may be a reason for that.
I think what happens is, is that when you have police officers who do have an edge, who do have an attitude, who may be jerks, that that becomes extrapolated and you presume that they're being a jerk to you or they pulled you over, they stopped you because you're black, whereas maybe they're just cops who happen to be jerks, but then to turn this into an institutionalized racist police force in America, I don't buy that.
You are right.
New York City has had issues.
There was Abner Luima.
There were cases like this.
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