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Nov. 25, 2014 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 25, 2014, Tuesday, Hour #2
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All right, let me see if I can explain this.
During the break, the top of the hour, I was watching CNN.
And at the moment on CNN, Benjamin Crump, the family attorney for the gentle giant, is holding court.
He's conducting a press conference.
And standing right next to him on his right, camera left, is the Reverend Sharpton.
We cannot see the audience, which we assume to be accredited journalists and other agitators, interested parties.
But a key question was asked.
And by the way, it's clear that Mr. Crump, speaking for the family, doesn't think justice happened here at all.
He thinks that once again, they got railroaded, that it's open season now on black kids.
The cops have just free reign.
No justice here occurred whatsoever.
Again, you got to define justice.
But this is the sad thing.
What resulted in no true bill was the law being followed to the letter.
There wasn't any evidence that contradicted this.
I mean, there's no question here that, but that doesn't matter to these people.
They were invested totally in a different outcome.
And they think that outcome is justified not because of the facts of this case, but because of a legacy.
They think the outcome that they want is justified independent of the facts.
And the denial of the outcome they want equals the denial of justice.
And so the whole thing here just perpetuates itself with no solution, no understanding, none of it.
And now there are interested parties waiting to feed off all this, such as the drive-by media, because this feeds right into the soap opera script.
And then the Sharptons and Jacktons of the world who are able to profit and not pay taxes in the case of Sharpton off this kind of thing.
But what I just saw goes right back to what Rudy Giuliani started making the point on Sunday on Meet the Press.
A female reporter, don't know who it was, asked a question, a series of questions to the family attorney Benjamin Crump and the Reverend Sharpton.
And the question of note was, she said that when we went by the Ferguson police station, we saw all kinds of uniformed police and military type presence.
We saw people with bulletproof vests.
We saw SWAT teams fully outfitted at the Ferguson police station and inside it.
It was a fortress.
And then when we left and we went over to West Florescent, where we expected to be stopped because we expected to see a huge police presence, when we got to West Floreson, she said, we didn't see any cops.
West Floreson is where a lot of the unrest taking place.
And she asked Benjamin Crump and the Reverend Sharpton, do you think the authorities let Ferguson burn?
And Sharpton started nodding his head and he couldn't wait to get to the microphone.
It was like Chuck Schumer trying to get to a camera and a microphone.
Sharpened, I mean, he made a B-line.
The first part of her question was, okay, well, since the local people let us down, do you think the feds could still bail us out here?
Could the feds indict, could the feds, and they nodded, and they got excited, and they made a mad dash for the microphone again.
And then this program began and I didn't hear any of their answers to the question, did the authorities let Bergerson burden.
But what it points up is this.
If the cops had been there in great numbers, that would have been racist.
The people of the community, or this journalist, don't you think the presence of all the cops is kind of a provocation?
Don't you think cops in riot gear is an insult?
Don't you think the deployment, and by the way, they did not deploy the National Guard.
Do you know that?
A week ago or some such thing, the governor of the state, Jay Nixon, called for the National Guard to be up and ready.
In fact, when I listened to the governor yesterday, it was stunning.
I have to tell you, I thought I was listening to Churchill prepare Britain for the upcoming Nazi blitz.
You wouldn't have believed the way this guy was portraying the upcoming action to be and how they were close to being militarized in terms of being ready for it.
It was stunning.
We're talking about my home state, by the way.
I grew up two hours south of St. Louis.
Anyway, you can't win and you can't lose.
If there had been a big police presence on West Florison, then the agitators would have said, see, look at you bring all these white cops in here and you're just provoking us.
This is our neighborhood.
Okay, so the cops stay away because they don't want to be provocative.
They don't want to provoke.
They don't want to get them away.
And then they say, where were you?
You weren't out here protecting.
Ferguson burned and you weren't here.
The cops can't win in a scenario that's drawn up exactly that way.
Listen to Giuliani explain it.
Grab sound by number 16.
This is on CNN today.
This was this morning.
And he makes the same point that I just made.
He's talking, Obama talks about how in poor communities you need more cops.
But Obama said the problem with that is that the cops are not representative of the community.
And by the way, has it now become just foregone conclusion that poor communities are crime-ridden?
We just have to accept that.
Poor communities are crime-ridden.
It's the way it's going to be.
It's the way it is.
It's understandable.
And we've got to do something about it.
Used to not be that way.
It used to not be a given that poor communities were ridden with crime.
Used to be, in fact, just the exact opposite, not that long ago.
But now it's just a foregone conclusion that poor communities are crime-laden.
So you have a police presence there, and that's racist.
You have a police presence there, it's provocative.
You take the police out, they don't go there, then the crime continues to happen, and that gets racist allegations.
Here's the way Giuliani explains it.
It's a question from Allison Camerada.
When I ask you about some controversial comments you made on Meet the Depressed over the weekend, you seem to be suggesting that the real focus here should be black-on-black violence and that white cops wouldn't have to go into black communities if black communities could sort of better police themselves.
I said the same thing the President of the United States said, and I was accused of being a racist.
President of the United States said, because minorities' communities typically are subject to more crime, they need law enforcement more than anybody else.
When he said it, he wasn't accused of being a racist.
When I said it, my adversary said I was a racist.
If there are large amounts of crime in this community, we put more police there.
If we didn't do that, we would be racist.
If I put all my police on Park Avenue and none of my police where five times more crime was taking place, then I'd be accused of being a racist.
The police follow where the crime is committed.
Yeah.
Well, this is the second time in Ferguson that the cops seemingly stood aside.
And, you know, some people, what were orders given?
Just was it.
Because remember back in the summer, I forget who it was who said it, but there was, from on high, there was an official, almost a policy-like belief.
Hey, look, this is so fever-pitched here.
Just let them have the night.
Get it out of their system, and we'll deal with this tomorrow.
And small businesses are being destroyed.
Remember the small business owners complaining about it?
There weren't any cops.
Where are the cops?
I mean, what are the cops for?
The cops are here to defend the law-abiding and these businesses, and they're not there.
Remember that?
Just let them get them out of the system was the attitude back then.
I don't know what happened in West Florescent last night.
I just, I hear this journalist ask the question, and it's a no-win.
If the cops show up, it's racist.
If they don't show up, it's racist, according to the activists.
Did the authorities let Ferguson burn last night?
Because she saw all that police presence at the police station in Ferguson.
They were protecting themselves, but they didn't seem to be protecting anybody else.
But then, on the other hand, I guarantee you, if there had been a uniform presence, heavily outfitted, riot gear and all that, somebody in that community would have said, what is this?
This is overkill.
You're bringing all these people in here.
What do you think we are?
And they would level allegations of racism on that basis, too.
It's a no-win situation.
Oh, the cops were there.
There were 60 arrests in Ferguson, but she was talking about a particular place, West Florescent, where she happened to go.
She expected to have to show ID to get past a checkpoint or whatever.
She expected to get past without being stopped.
She didn't think that was going to happen.
No, I don't think the Republicans were there.
You mean the photo ID?
Yeah, the Republicans demand a photo ID, right?
That's another thing.
Anyway, let me take a break here, folks.
We'll come back.
I'm going to start with the photo calls because I know we've been loaded here since the program began.
Your turn's next when we get back.
One more soundbite here just came in before we hit the phones.
I mentioned this earlier, but here it is in audio form.
This is the stepfather of the gentle giant.
This would be Gentle Giant Sr.
Actually, his name is Lewis Head, and he is the stepfather.
He's at a, it's last night in Ferguson.
The gentle giant's mother, Leslie McSpatten, and the stepfather Lewis Head spoke to the crowd about the grand jury deciding not to indict the police officer, Darren Wilson.
After the gentle giant's mother broke down crying, the stepfather, Lewis Head, began shouting at the crowd for action.
Able to understand that.
Were you?
Yeah, we burned down this the burned down and then burned down this bitch.
One, two, three, four.
Exhorting the crowd last night.
All right, the phones we got, and we're going to start with John in Darien, Illinois.
Great to have you, sir.
You're up first.
Welcome to the program.
Hi, Rush.
Thanks for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
I wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving as we come up to this time that we should really be thankful for what's going on.
Amen.
And, you know, unfortunately, we have some really interesting things happening.
And what I think it comes from is we've got a president setting the example for poor behavior.
You know, he has, anything that he doesn't like, the way it's going, he just changes the narrative and then instills his own form of justice.
You know, what do you expect the people in Ferguson to do when they see the president criticizing things that he doesn't like, not following the law, and then just setting up his own form of justice?
And unfortunately, it happens with every issue that we're dealing with.
This goes from Ferguson to immigration to health care, the budget, the government shutdown.
I mean, everything he doesn't like, he just changes the narrative, sets up a straw man, blames that person, and then says, well, since nobody will do it my way, take care of it, I'll do it my own way.
And he goes around the law.
So what do you expect the people in Ferguson to do?
So you think he's actually to blame in a way and is setting the example.
If the president can do it, why can't we?
Well, he shows it by his behavior.
I mean, look at it.
He keeps telling people, I want something to happen on immigration.
Well, he lets them work it out, and the constitutional format that is presented to us doesn't work to his satisfaction.
So he says, well, you know what?
I don't like the way this is going.
I'm just going to set up my own form of justice and redo it.
You know, the people in Ferguson, they didn't like the way that the law handled the situation.
And that prosecutor last night, he explained for 20 minutes, 30 minutes, how they went through everything.
I know.
See, that's the thing.
That doesn't matter.
As I think I mentioned, the facts here, no matter how, logically presented, don't matter because that's not what this was about.
Look, I agree with your premise.
And I've thought for a long time.
I often cite Daniel Patrick Moynihan and his, I think, brilliant deconstruction of societal decay, defining deviancy down.
What that means is, as society battles certain types of immorality and bad behavior, criminal behavior, after a while, if you can't stop it, you just stop trying to.
And you declare this activity to be normal.
It's a changing world.
And you move on to things that are worse.
And in the process, deviancy and certain kinds of criminal behavior become acceptable and accepted as norms.
One of those is there's going to be crime in poor neighborhoods.
We have decided we can't stop it.
It's just going to happen.
And so we're going to move on to really more important things, bigger things, worse things.
And so that just becomes an accepted aspect of what life in America is all about.
And I think as that kind of thing happens over and over again, it cannot help but set a tone.
And when there is lawlessness at any level, whenever anybody is perceived as getting away with lawlessness, it certainly is going to inspire others to think, well, wait a minute, I want my share of being able to do that too.
Although, in this particular case, I don't think it required Obama and any of his behavior.
I think this was a script that you could have written in any of the last 30 years.
Somebody come up with these exact circumstances and you could write what was going to happen here.
I think, wasn't there, didn't we hear something yesterday, the day before, that there were even going to be protests if there was an indictment.
These people, some of them showed up to protest just for the heck of it because it was an opportunity.
And even, yeah, we had a soundbite yesterday.
Some new Black Panther guests.
It's not about this.
It's about changing this system.
And we had John Lewis, the esteemed member of Congress from Georgia, saying that this was Selma.
Number two, the Selma all over again.
This is a chance to relive the gloried civil rights struggles from the 1950s and 1960s.
So the outcome here was pretty well known and understood.
Grab Sunbite 17.
It's Rudy again, and he's on CNN.
This is Allison Camerada asking him about the decision and if it's to not indict and if it's something that he agreed with.
I believe it was a correct verdict.
In fact, I think it was the only verdict the grand jury could reach.
Why?
I'm going to tell you why, as a prosecutor, you couldn't possibly have won that case.
One of the things, I was a United States attorney, you know, for 11 years.
You considered two things when you decided on an indictment.
One, do you have probable cause?
I don't think there's any question they didn't have probable cause.
But past that.
Number two, can you win this case at trial?
They would have been destroyed at trial by a halfway competent defense lawyer because of all the inconsistencies.
And frankly, the prosecutor was generous because of all the perjury that was committed by witnesses whose testimony is contradicted by physical evidence and whose testimony is contradicted by themselves.
And that's one of the unsung, little discussed aspects of this.
There were several witnesses who committed perjury, who lied, and it was proven they perjured themselves by virtue of the evidence.
This case should never have taken this long to solve.
And the only reason it did was that there was a decision made to try to mollify the community.
But there was never, once the facts of this case have become known, this was not an incident in any way, shape, matter, or form the way it was originally reported.
And we haven't even discussed here the use of force doctrine that is on the books in the state of Missouri and is one of the primary reasons that the cop was not charged is the use of force doctrine, the permission that law enforcement has granted by law to use force under circumstances in which his life or the lives of innocent bystanders are threatened.
He felt it was.
If that case can be made, it's a slam dunk.
It's the law.
The law doesn't matter here, folks.
It doesn't matter to these people.
Half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair.
I am Rush Limbaugh, and I have been doing this for a long time.
And I plan on doing it for a really longer time.
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A little brief timeout here from Ferguson.
Just a tiny timeout.
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And now back to the phones.
Mike in Hanson, Massachusetts, you're next.
It's great to have you on the program, sir.
Hello.
Hey, happy Thanksgiving, Rush, to you and all your listeners.
Thank you very much.
Same to you, sir.
I was just curious why the president didn't just start his speech with, it appears that first-hand accounts of the shooting of Michael Brown were far from the truth.
Well, there's that, it would make no sense for the president to do that.
That's not his agenda.
Yeah, but what's the end game?
I mean, he must have known that there was going to be violence.
The president's a community organizer.
Look, there are certain things that just are.
You may like them.
You may not like them.
You may wish they weren't true.
You may think they're being misanalyzed, but they're not.
The president is a community organizer.
That's what he did before he became president.
That's all he did.
He's a community organizer.
What do community organizers do?
Do you think they stand in the corner in Chicago and organize people?
What does a community organizer do?
Does your community need to be organized?
You live in Hanson, Massachusetts.
Is there somebody in your community standing around urging you to leave your home and get organized?
What does that mean?
What does a community organizer do?
A community organizer, that's just a title.
It's a term that's designed to thoroughly misrepresent what someone does.
What is a community organizer, Snerdley?
Is it somebody who gets the community together, get them all riled up to settle and deal with the injustices of, say, high electric bills?
Is the community organizer community organized to make sure that the local grocery stores don't overcharge them?
Well, what does a community organizer do?
The community organizer is all about agitation.
Community organizers agitate.
They create armies of angry people causing chaos, both behind the scenes and in front of the scenes, in order to affect the change the organizer desires.
The community organizer is someone who attempts to coalesce and amass political power using anger and rage to intimidate the opponents of the community organizer himself.
But if you stop and think, we hear, okay, Obama was a community organizer.
Okay, you live in a community.
Let's say you live in Wellington, Florida, and you have on your, you've got a neighborhood there, your community.
Who is your organizer?
And what does he do?
And the odds are you don't have one.
And the odds are, if you got a flyer or an email, your community organizer requests your presence tonight at the corner of, what are you going to end up doing?
Organize what?
Well, that's what Obama is.
He's a community organizer.
If you want to find out specifically, read Sawdolensky's books, particularly Rules for Radicals.
But the point is, so I said earlier, I think that Obama had a chance last night.
He had 20 minutes or however much time he wanted on national television following an event where practically, well, not practically everybody, a huge number of people were watching.
That's another thing.
You know, this is kind of off the beaten path, but remember last week, last Thursday, how I mentioned how just surreal it felt that we here were counting down the hours to the big carnival show where Obama's going to violate the Constitution.
And how just surreal that whole thing felt?
I mean, we know it's going to happen.
It's seven hours and six hours, five hours.
The Constitution is right in front of our eyes.
It's going to be shot full of holes, and there's going to be a ceremony about it.
It's almost like a carnival show.
Everybody's going to tune in and watch this.
We're going to sit around and we're going to watch the Constitution be violated.
We're going to watch it be shot full of holes.
And we're going to wake up next day, and the holes are still going to be there.
I felt the same way yesterday.
All day long, a grand jury is supposed to come at 4 o'clock, then 5 o'clock, and said, wait a minute, why are they doing it then?
And then the announcement moved to 8 o'clock and then to 9 o'clock.
So wait a minute.
Why do this at night?
Well, we want to let drive time traffic conclude.
And we want the children to be home from school.
Well, why not do it at 7 o'clock in the morning?
Oh, we don't want to mess with rush hour.
They created a show even out of this.
And it was a prime time show.
Everything is, and I'm not going to express this right.
I'm not going to accurately say what I mean here because I haven't really thought of the best way to do it.
It just seems surreal.
Okay, we count down the hours until we get the announcement about the grand jury and whether there will or not be an indictment.
Will the cop be indicted?
Or will the cop, will the town burn or will it not?
And we are all waiting and we're being counted down and we've got it all on cable TV with the analysts just vamping and filling and chapping and doing everything they can to fill the time until we get to the big moment.
And we find the big moment was actually a media event, not the real event.
I mean, the real event's a close second, the decision, but it was a media event first and foremost.
It wasn't that long ago when this thing would have been announced, whatever they had, 3 o'clock in the afternoon, 2 o'clock in the afternoon, 10 o'clock in the morning, and the media better show up when it's done.
Now, everything is done on a media schedule.
Football game starts, you name it.
Everything's done on a media schedule for highest impact, this or that.
And I'm telling you, it's the whole notion that when cameras are present, reality suffers.
And when everybody starts playing to the cameras, reality really suffers.
I'm not criticizing the DA last night.
This is not the point.
It's just the whole atmosphere in which this stuff happens also affects people.
And as part of this atmosphere, we had this massive tune-in last night.
Obama had a golden opportunity to tell the truth to the people of what happened in this.
He's a constitutional lawyer and law teacher.
He knows what happened and he could find out what the evidence is.
He had an opportunity here to quell the violence.
He had an opportunity to, maybe, he may not have succeeded, but he could have tried to stop it.
He could have tried to tamp it down.
He could have tried to explain how this is the rule of law triumphing in America.
He could have gone through it.
He could have explained.
The DA did, and he did a good job of explaining, justified the decision, showed, illustrated all the perjury taken place, gave the aspects of the law that were relevant here.
And he clearly made the case, there was no case that was a justifiable shooting based upon the use of force doctrine, if nothing else, in the state of Missouri.
It differs from state to state.
But it wasn't the outcome that a lot of people in the media wanted.
So we had, like I mentioned, five o'clock this morning, a CNN journalist said, well, why couldn't the DA just, you know, charge him himself without the grand jury?
Why, if he didn't like what the grand jury did, just charge him anyway.
And the sheer ignorance of our system in that question, we don't have any hope if the people in the media have become as stupid as their audience.
Not stupid, ignorant.
Then it's going to get harder and harder and harder.
And I stopped thinking, what makes her think that?
And I said, she feels.
She feels it should be different.
And see, I think if you think you're a good person, and most of us do, I mean, most of us don't run around saying, I'm a real reprobate.
Most of us run around saying, I'm a good person.
I mean, I make my mistakes, but I don't purposely try to hurt people.
I'm a good person.
So your feelings automatically become justified.
And as a good person, your feelings are smart.
Your feelings count.
Your feelings become your common sense.
And so if you feel like the DA could have superseded the grand jury, then why couldn't he?
Why didn't he?
My feelings is common sense.
Maybe this infobabe remembered the Trayvon Martin case where the state attorney did overrule the grand jury in Florida.
That's a kind of a unique situation because of Florida law, it differs from state to state.
Maybe I give her a slack, cut her some slack, and maybe she was thinking that, but I really don't think so.
I think she was just thinking, I don't understand.
Why can't I, I would have, just so everybody would have had their day, just so everybody would have felt good.
The rationale that I have heard here is mind-boggling.
How about this rationale?
I heard this on cable TV too.
Well, you know what?
Somebody should have had the presence of mind to go ahead and indict the guy.
If he didn't do it, let it be shown at a trial so the community can see once and for all, and that would prevent the violence.
That's what they should have done.
Okay, so there's no case.
Well, prove it.
Let's go to trial.
You heard that one too?
Yeah.
Well, that's equally esinite.
That's not rooted in law or proprietary.
It's rooted in feelings.
Well, there's some fear, but what really is behind that thinking is if it gets to trial, anything can happen.
And we could cause all kinds of havoc.
You get a jury in there, you know what can happen.
You know, we got to get the juries.
Well, we can too.
Is anyone?
Once you go to trial, you can make anything happen.
Look at the OJ case.
So that was what behind it.
I got to take a break.
More phone calls coming up.
Don't go away.
Back to the phones of Freehold, New Jersey.
This is Paula.
Great to have you, Paula.
Welcome to the EIB Network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
Happy Thanksgiving to you.
It's so nice to finally speak to you.
Thank you very much.
And the same to you and your familiar.
Oh, thank you.
This is such a sad occasion, though, to speak to you about what happened with the trial, well, the grand jury and the riots last night.
I was watching the video of his mom and stepfather and reading some other things about Ferguson.
And I was just left with there's such a void there of they don't need politicians to go in and help.
They need their hearts and souls to be one.
I know I was reading about a church service where a pastor was asking, asked their congregation if they would preach, if they would pray for the officer.
And there was just silence.
And then the pastor asked again, will you pray for his family at least?
And one woman said she would.
And I just, I was telling my children this morning that we need to pray for that community because no one's going to help them unless, you know, God turns their hearts around and lets them see who they are and who He is and willingness to repent of what they're doing.
And I know.
The problem with that.
And I'm on the same page with you.
This is what I was getting at in the opening monologue of the program today.
That if I were African American and had been for the last 50 years and had been voting Democrat all these years because they are going to stop all this stuff from happening to me and in my community because there's the other guys that are the bad guys.
The Republicans are the bad guys.
The Democrats are going to protect me.
After a while, I said, okay, 50 years, we got our first black president.
This is supposed to end this.
I'd be pretty mad too.
I would be perplexed and upset, and I would be really questioning everything that I've been told for 50 years.
That's just me.
But your point, Politicians can't fix this.
Boy, is that ever true.
You do not know what a grand slam home run comment that is.
You are so right on the money.
But the problem, Paula, is that it's the politicians who benefit from this strife.
Politicians benefit from people being on edge, benefit from people being angry, benefit from people being ticked off.
Politicians and activists alike benefit.
That's another valid question.
Ask who benefits from all this stuff that you see happening?
And it might answer some more questions for you.
It's the fastest three hours in media, folks.
It's been that way for a long time.
And we've got another hour to go.
A busy broadcast hour yet to come.
Sit tight.
Back at it before you know it.
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