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September 22, 2014, Monday, Hour #3
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They found the three soldiers.
They found the three missing Afghanistan soldiers.
They found them.
They lost them at the mall.
The ones that were at Cape Cod, they found them.
They were at Niagara Falls.
That's all I've got.
I just saw the flight.
I don't know if they're on their own bus or not.
I know.
They found at Niagara Falls.
The soldiers who vanished were found near Niagara Falls, according to a senior Pentagon official.
It's all Fox News.
So, and it just, I just got this.
So other people are going to have to dig further here if we want to find out before the next commercial break.
Welcome back, folks.
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Now, I mentioned earlier, I wanted to catch up on some things here that I teased, if you will, at the top of the program.
First up, Leon Panetta is now out publicly doing two things.
He's ripping the regime and distancing himself from it.
Actually, doing three things.
He's doing those two things and circling the wagons around Hillary, which a lot of Democrats are doing as they shape up for 2016.
Leon Panetta is actually saying that Obama's bad decisions on Syria and Iraq led to the rise of ISIS.
Leon Panetta is saying it was a mistake not to leave a residual force in Iraq.
Now, Panetta is a Clinton toady.
He's a Santa Cruz, California, Santa Cruz Liberal Democrat.
They don't come more leftist.
He lives in Carmel.
And he's got a think tank out there.
He presents as a Democrat Party adult, but he is, despite all that, he's as rock-solid leftist as any of them.
He really has pulled this off.
He comes across looking as an adult moderate, almost a father figure that knows the kids are going off the path now and then, but it's doing his best.
He is one of the kids going off the path.
He just looks like a mature adult.
He was, I say, totally slavish to the Clintons.
He was Clinton's chief of staff.
I'll never forget his retirement speech when he was leaving and the suck-ups in that speech to Bill Clinton.
My mouth is still sweet from just hearing what Panetta said.
Now, Panetta, where was he on CBS with Scott Pelley?
And I think, let me check and see.
I know I've saw these in the soundbite process.
Right, Grab 13 and 14.
Rather than reading all this in little detail, here gets the sound bites.
60 Minutes, Scott Pelly says to Panetta, with virtually his entire net, well, this is narration, with virtually his entire national security team unanimous on arming the moderate Syrian rebels.
That's not the decision the president made.
He had a fear that if we started providing weapons, we wouldn't know where those weapons would wind up.
My view was you have to begin somewhere.
In retrospect, now, was not arming the rebels at that time a mistake?
I think that would have helped.
We paid a price for not doing that in what we see happening with ISIS.
Wow.
This is about Iraq last summer and pulling out of Syria last summer and pulling out of Iraq and not leaving a residual force.
This is, I haven't paid much attention to drive-by news today.
I don't know how much play this is getting, but this is big.
I mean, this is a prominent Democrat, even though a former Clintonite, current Clintonite, really throwing Obama under the bus here.
You haven't, we haven't seen this in six years.
I mean, this is tantamount to blaming Obama for the ISIS situation.
Of course, Obama's trying to blame Bush.
Obama and the Democrats blame Bush by claiming that we should have never been in Iraq in the first place because we went there with no reason.
We simply created a world of terrorists.
And Obama was going to make the world love us again by immediately pulling out of there and admitting to the world we shouldn't have been there and then apologizing to the world for what we did there and the torture and all that.
And here comes Panetta blowing that all up.
Here comes Panetta saying, no, no, no, I think that not arming the Syrian rebels last summer, that's a big mistake.
It would have been folly if we armed them then.
The pretense back then was that Assad was doing all the dirty work and murdering innocents in Syria.
And it's later been learned that it was not Assad.
It's a good bet that it was not Assad.
And then the next thing Pelly said, well, back when you watched the stars and stripes being lowered for the last time in Baghdad, were you confident in that moment that pulling out was there?
Who in the world?
60 Minutes is all in for the Clintons here.
What are what kind of question?
You talk about a softball setup question?
So Scott Pelly says to Panetta, who is on 60 Minutes to Sell Out Obama, back when you watched the stars and stripes being lowered for the last time in Baghdad, were you confident in that moment that pulling out was the right thing to do?
No, I wasn't.
I really thought that it was important for us to maintain a presence in Iraq.
The decision was that we ought to at least try to maintain 8,000 to 10,000 U.S. troops there, plus keeping some of our intelligence personnel in place to be able to continue the momentum in the right direction.
And frankly, having those troops there, I think, would have given us greater leverage on Maliki to try to force him to do the right thing as well.
Well, where were you back then?
Everything I remember was that every Democrat was trying to get on board with Obama to get us out of Iraq yesterday.
Now, my memory could be failing me here, but you all know what Iraq became in terms of its political value to the Democrat Party.
They spent five years, the last five years of the Bush presidency, impugning the Iraq war and the military conducting it from the leaders on down to uniformed troops.
They spent every day for five years trashing the entire premise that it was uncalled for, that it was unnecessary, that it was unjust, that we had done nothing but engage in torture, that we had abandoned our value, all of that crap that was coming out of every Democrat's mouth.
And I don't remember a one of them back then warning Obama, hey, pal, you better leave a residual force in there.
Now, I will acknowledge that there may have been some.
Panetta may have been one who was saying, hey, it's a mistake to pull totally out of there.
I don't recall, but I don't, I think I would recall it if it had been loud, if it had been a loud and forceful disagreement with the pullout.
But I would have found it strange because the Democrats were so invested politically, they were so invested in just getting everything out of there.
They had to do that to validate the votes of their base from 2008.
I can't stress to you, they turned five over five years, they turned their base literally inside out insane with hatred for anything to do with Iraq because they bashed it all the time.
They bashed Bush, they bashed the generals, they bashed Petraeus, they bashed the policy, the CERD, they bashed every tried to undermine it.
Harry Reid all over television, this war is lost.
This war is immoral.
And the last I remember was every Democrat trying to climb on board to also participate in the political victory of pulling out of Iraq, a place we had never been in the first place.
And now Panetta's out saying it was a mistake.
And now Panetta says, we're paying the price and pulling out of there is why we have ISIS.
He's right about that, but I just can't believe he's saying it.
And undermining Obama.
But that is what is happening.
Fascinating to see.
Let's keep going.
Audio soundbite number 15.
We're going to go back.
This is June 20th of this year.
CBS this morning, the co-host Nora O'Donnell interviewing Obama about the rise of ISIS.
And she said, would that vacuum that ISIS rose up in exist?
Had we backed the moderate rebel forces in Syria?
This notion that somehow there was this ready-made, moderate Syrian force that was able to defeat Assad is simply not true.
The notion that they were in a position suddenly to overturn not only Assad, but also ruthless, highly trained jihadists if we just sent a few arms is a fantasy.
All right, though, putting this in perspective, that means that Obama is on record back on June 20th of this year saying that what Panetta and Hillary and Bill Clinton are saying today is a fantasy.
Because you just heard him.
The notion that somehow there was this ready-made, moderate Syrian force, and all we had to do was arm them and help them out.
And Assad was, that's childish.
That's silly.
That was a fantasy.
So this is even more interesting because they know Obama said that, and they know people like us are going to go find the soundbite of Obama saying that.
So we're going to play Obama and say, it's a fantasy that what I did created ISIS.
There's no freaking way.
And here they come today saying what Obama did created ISIS.
That means, folks, it's officially the Clintons have turned the page.
Obama's in the rearview mirror and it's all speed ahead for Hillary 2016.
This is just fascinating to me to watch this because now all these people, the Clintons want to come in, what, years later, and claim they knew all along.
And yet, where were they when they claimed to know all along?
Now, you want some real irony, ladies and gentlemen.
We pointed this out a couple of weeks ago.
It's hard to keep up with all this stuff.
So you just have to trust me.
And don't doubt my memory on this because we talked about this two weeks ago.
Hillary said in 2012, remember Panetta's out there throwing Obama overboard.
Hey, it was a mistake to pull out of Iraq.
Hey, arming a Syrian rebel.
We should have done that.
If we'd have done those two things, there wouldn't be an ISIS today.
Well, in 2012, Hillary Clinton said that arming rebels would be arming al-Qaeda.
She said it was not viable.
I've got the YouTube clip if I want to see it.
She said that to 60 Minutes Scott Pelley, the same guy that Panetta's talking to two years later.
Well, Panetta last night told Pelley, hey, it was the right thing to do.
We should have done it.
And because we didn't do it, today we've got ISIS.
Two years ago, Hillary told Scott Pelley, oh no, no.
Arming those rebels would be like arming al-Qaeda.
That's not viable.
Here's the transcript of what Hillary told to Scott Pelley.
What are we going to arm them with?
And against what?
She said, when pressed in a CBS interview about why the Obama regime wasn't giving the Syrian rebels weapons to help them in their fight against Bashar Assad.
You're not going to bring down tanks.
You're going to bring tanks over the borders of Turkey and Lebanon and Jordan.
That's not going to happen.
So maybe at the best you can smuggle in, you know, automatic weapons.
And to whom are you delivering them?
She continued.
We know that Al-Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahiri, is supporting the opposition in Syria.
Are we supporting al-Qaeda in Syria?
Hamas is now supporting the opposition.
Are we supporting Hamas in Syria?
So two years ago, the woman who wants to be president says the stupid thing in the world to think about arming these people.
Last night, Leon Panett said it was the biggest mistake that we didn't.
And he's attempting to speak for all the Clintons.
The Clintons are all out there saying, oh, yeah, we should have done it.
We should have never gotten out of the rock.
Should have left a little bit of a force there.
This, I wonder how long it's going to take.
I'm surprised this is not front page everywhere today.
Maybe I'm misreading it.
Maybe I'm attaching more importance to this than there is, but this looks like a giant.
I mean, it is a huge split.
It's clearly the Clinton wing abandoning Obama now and moving forward for themselves in 2016.
They're contradicting themselves even from two years ago.
But the very fact that this is the first real serious break within the Democrat Party from Obama, maybe that's why it's been covered up.
Or not covered up, but ignored.
I can't say it's been covered up because it's on 60 minutes, but it's nowhere else.
I mean, Fox News has, you know, dipped their toe in the water on this a little bit, but hardly anybody else.
Maybe they will when they finally realize it, when they catch up to it.
We will find out.
In the meantime, the three Afghan soldiers, nothing to worry about, folks.
The governor of Massachusetts, Deval Patrick, said today that the three Afghanistan army officers didn't appear to pose a threat to the public at all.
They found them at Niagara Falls.
And Governor Patrick said that they may, in fact, be trying to defect.
Defect where?
Why would you leave Cape Cod and go to Niagara Falls if you wanted to defect?
Well, yeah, it's a Canadian.
Want to defect to Canada?
Maybe you go to Niagara Falls.
But if you're defect to the United States, was that what he means?
Defect to Canada?
Anyway, somehow they knew enough to get to Niagara Falls, or maybe they didn't know where they were going.
They just come from a place there's not much water, and they heard Niagara Falls is a lot, and they wanted to see it.
That could be it.
People live in a desert, water's a big deal.
Maybe they're just tourists.
Tourism, well, they were at the mall.
They might have seen a travel poster for Niagara Falls.
Hey, that really, you know, we don't see that in Afghanistan.
Normally, that looks, you know, we got blood that looks like that in Afghanistan.
We don't have water that looks like that.
But the governor says nothing to worry about.
Don't sweat it.
Now, I want to get back to the phones.
Next segment, we're going to start with the way presidential press conferences used to be with some rehashing of the Goodell press conference on Friday, right after this program and the sports drive-bys out for blood.
But in the meantime, Jennifer in Goshen, Ohio, thank you for waiting.
It's great to have you here.
Hello.
Hello, Grash.
It's great to be talking to you.
Thank you very much.
Well, yes.
I was going to touch on with Stephanie, the lady that called, and she said, you know, she found some of the IDs from the airport, like they worked at the airport.
No, she didn't know whether, no, she found them in a, they run a salvage yard, and they had a car delivered, a junk car, and the IDs and some cell phones were in the car.
Right.
Well, I used to work at an airport, okay, on the outside, you know, where you load the planes and fuel the planes and everything.
And I'm telling you, that is my main fear.
In TSA, they would maybe check our bags once a month, you know, because we all had our backpacks and everything, you know, that we carried into work or whatever.
And you know what?
Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Just I want to understand.
While TSA is making grandma disrobe upstairs, outside on the ramp, they're checking you once a week?
No, once a month, maybe.
I am not kidding you.
I have been trying for probably two months to get in and tell this story because there is so much that could go wrong.
And especially now that you have all, you know, like some of these planes that are missing and things like that, then you hear more and more about, you know, some people working at the airport that the one guy left to go fight.
Well, let me tell you something I heard.
I can't mention any names, and it's not gospel.
This is just scuttlebutt.
What I heard is not from somebody at TSA, somebody that is familiar with the overall thinking on the next terror attack.
And apparently, one of the, and there are many theories as to where the next one will come from.
And there's a body of thought that the next attack will not have anything to do with airplanes because the last big one did.
And it'll be something in.
So they're not focusing on airplanes as much as they were.
I don't know that to be true.
This is just somebody's theory, the theory that the next attack is going to be totally unrelated to airplanes.
Otherwise, they can't get away with it.
They've tried since 9-11 to do airplanes, a shoe bomber, and so forth.
They've been caught, maybe many more times than we know.
Well, but the thing of it is, if it's someone that is already working there, that's how they're going to be able to do it.
Because they're going to have that stuff, put it in the plane, and no one would ever know because TSA never checks the bags.
Of the line workers.
You're talking about the line workers outside.
Right.
Everyone who works outside.
Yeah, they first can't.
Well, this is not very comforting.
I admit.
I know.
Yeah, this is not very comforting, I have to say.
Just don't go to the airport.
Okay, I am told that the three Army soldiers, my crack research staff coming through here, I'm told the three Army soldiers did indeed want to defect to Canada.
That's why they went to my instincts were right on the money.
They wanted out of Massachusetts because it was the closest place they could get to out of Massachusetts.
They were trying to defect from Massachusetts.
They wanted nothing to do with Cape Cod.
Do you realize what's on Cape Cod?
They're eating anybody with less than $500 million that lives there.
They want it out of there.
They want it.
Mathis, Vineyard, Cape Canaveral, it's all the same.
The Hamptons, it's all the same.
They said, this isn't for us.
From the Vietnam War was the last time anybody.
Now, Roger Goodell faced the media, the sports media, on Friday, right after this program.
And Barack Obama has not undergone one press conference like this, probably in his life, but certainly not since 2008.
If he had, if he had undergone a press conference like Goodell had, he might not have been elected.
Now, I can't predict, you know, go back in time, predict the new future.
But he's never been vetted, never been grilled, never been challenged.
Goodell was.
And I think it's useful to remind people that may not know what a media press conference used to be like.
So we have here, let's just, it's a montage to start of reporters from NBC, CNN, CBS, the New York Post, and ABC, all with questions for Goodell.
If any of these victims had been someone you love, would you be satisfied with the way the league has handled this crisis?
And what would you say to them?
You've gotten it wrong in a few cases, and that tends to happen when there's no checks and balances.
How willing are you to give up some of that power?
Have you considered resigning?
Why do you feel like you should be able to continue in this role?
I wondered if you personally have ever been involved in an abuse situation in any capacity.
Can you imagine not one question even approaching anything like that has been asked of Obama, and there have been numerous occasions where there had been, could have been plenty of, like Benghazi.
How willing are you?
Have you considered resigning?
Why do you feel like you should be able to continue in the role you've gotten it wrong in a few cases like Everything, Obamacare?
There's none of this.
Here's Goodell.
Now, this is, let's add TMZ to this, to the White House briefing.
We didn't have their guy in the montage.
If we added TMZ, we might have found out by now where Obama was on the night of the Benghazi attack.
This is TMZ video journalist and stand-up comedian Adam Glenn, and he's at the Goodell press conference.
He said, I have to go back into the video and your curiosity to see the video.
You suspended Ray Rice after our video at TMZ.
Why didn't you have the curiosity to go to the casino yourself and get the video yourself instead of waiting for us?
We have to be very cautious in not interfering with a criminal investigation, but we'll evaluate that.
Should we do more to get that information?
I would have loved to have seen that tape.
Should we do more to get that information in the future?
That's a question I want these experts to do.
We found out by one phone call.
You guys have a whole legal department.
Can you explain that?
We found out by just one phone call.
I can't explain how you got the information.
Only you can do that.
Now, I know what some of you are thinking.
Wait a minute, Rush.
Goodell's not the president, and the NFL's coming under unfair assault here.
And in the sense that the cases, the incidents of spouse abuse, domestic violence, and all that in the NFL are 13% below the national average.
That is true.
But again, the media is the media.
The media doesn't care about that.
They've got blood in the water.
And when the media sees blood, they're like a bunch of sharks, except when it comes to Democrat presidents.
Now, Goodell has been one of the best politically correct commissioners in any sport ever.
And look what it bought him.
Nothing.
They smell blood in the water.
And I'm not playing these because I want you, I have an animus for Goodell.
That's not the point.
If I did or didn't, it doesn't matter.
This is simply an illustration of how the media used to act.
The last time they did things like this with George W. Bush, pounding him for an hour at one press conference to admit just a single mistake.
Everybody makes mistakes, Mr. President.
And Bush knew what was on, and he wouldn't.
But that's the role.
If you are in a position of power, that's one of the things you know is coming.
It's the league you play in.
So I'm not doing this to arouse sympathy for Goodell.
And you can get mad and say these guys are unprofessional and they're boring and it's unnecessary and they're trying to destroy him.
All of which is true.
But it isn't true with Democrat politicians.
And that's just the whole point.
Now, George Will on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace.
Chris Wallace said, Hey, George, you're close to Major League Baseball.
How do you think Goodell has handled this in the NFL?
Is your sense of this?
Does he survive?
He will survive.
He's handled it terribly, and it doesn't matter.
Last week's three most viewed television programs were Sunday night football, Thursday night football, and Monday night football, and money talks, and it will continue to talk.
And this will pass over, and football will go on its merry way.
I happen to believe the problem with football is football, which is to say it is merchandising consciously violence, and some of it spills over.
Now, see, that's that's not that if you're casually listening, that's the kind of thing that might make sense.
But again, the statistics don't bear that out.
I contend, as I said last week, I think for there's something about professional athletes, folks, that is true and it's universal.
I don't care baseball, football, soccer, tennis, you name it.
An athlete who is a professional guaranteed exhibited the talent by age 11 or 12, particularly in baseball, maybe tennis.
And from the moment a child athlete is thought to have the potential to go far, that child is immediately treated like a king.
It's just cultural.
There's that word again.
They are coddled.
They're protected.
The way is paved for them.
It's such, sometimes by their parents, because it is the Silk Road if they get there.
I mean, it's big bucks.
It's stardom.
It's royalty.
It's fame.
And they don't face common, ordinary, everyday discipline, except in rare exceptions.
And my contention is, even though all these guys come out of college, the NFL is the first formal discipline they ever really encounter.
Doesn't matter what race.
There are some different cultural things there, of course.
But I'm talking about the discipline at the team facility.
What is necessary to make the team?
Now, granted, if somebody's a superstar and the reprobate, they overlook the reprobate and it comes back to haunt them later.
Nothing's ever perfect here.
But the idea that the behavior in the NFL is like the spouse abuse is directly relatable to the violence in the game.
That's what's not borne out by the statistics.
It's the exact opposite.
The instance of spousal abuse is only 13% in the NFL, what it is in the population at large, for example.
You want to hear something that's funny?
I mean, it's funny if you have a certain level of understanding about this NFL thing.
If you don't, it might not be funny.
And I don't have time to tell you why it's funny if you don't know.
So this is for those of you who do.
It's Ray Lewis on ESPN's Sunday NFL countdown yesterday talking about the Ray Rice situation with Baltimore Ravens and the NFL.
We're here for one reason and one reason only.
We're here for domestic violence.
We're here because we saw a friend of mine brutally hit his wife in the face in an elevator.
There's some things you can cover up, and then there's some things you can't.
Right now is a sad day for me because the reputation that I left in this organization, this isn't it.
This isn't it.
What was built there many years took hard work to get that.
It took a hell of a reputation to put on the line.
Ray Rice put a lot of people at jeopardy with his actions.
A lot of people at jeopardy.
Not just himself.
Okay.
Says Ray Lewis.
He says, we're here meeting the crew on ESPN talking about this.
We're here for domestic violence.
No, you're there for an NFL pregame show.
You have to be talking about domestic violence today.
But then he says he did so much to build up his reputation and the Ravens' reputation.
And it's a sad day because he left that organization with the greatest reputation.
And this Ray Reisning, that isn't it.
And what was built there many years took hard work, hell of a reputation to put on the line.
And so Ray Rice has destroyed everybody's reputation.
Nep.
Nay, don't bring it up.
Well, they did on the first day.
They did on the first day.
And he said, no, you can't compare it to night and day.
What Ray did, me did nothing.
No, no, you can't go there.
No, no.
It's not said, oh, no, no, no.
And that's the only time anybody brought it up.
Great to be with you today, my friends.
Have a great rest of the day and night, and we'll be back here tomorrow, revved and ready to go.
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