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Dec. 12, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 12, 2013, Thursday, Hour #3
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Greetings my friends and welcome back Rush Limbaugh, the EIB Network, Limbaugh Institute FOR Advanced Conservative Studies, and it's the fastest three hours in media heading on down the tracks of truth here.
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I knew that weeks ago.
Well, it wasn't for me to say I just I knew this weeks ago, so that's no big deal.
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Let me clarify what I said to Tab from Salt Lake City because folks, I was not implying or stating that Tab ought to be paying the $1,200 for his pain medication for himself.
My point was this, it's it's, it's what it's meant with healthcare all along the.
This is how far gone we are in my world in, in my way of thinking, gee, this is how old-fashioned I am and I I admit this, but I believe i've always believed this.
It was the way I was raised.
So blame my mom and dad, but i've always believed whatever I wanted was my responsibility to buy and certainly whatever I needed was my responsibility to buy.
That there was a vast difference between need and want, but I was raised that it was not anybody else's responsibility, no matter what it was.
To give you an example, we've all got stories like this.
When I started working in radio actually was my first job was shining shoes in a barber shop and I made 50 in three months.
And my dad took it and he said, if, if you're going to earn money, then you're going to start paying to help here in the household.
So he took it, okay fine, I didn't need it, i'm 13.
What am I going to, you know?
Um, then I started working at the radio station when I was 15 for like 75 cents an hour and eventually, after three or four years, making a buck and a quarter and uh, I was living at home, so he took it.
When I hit 16, I decided I wanted a Ford Mustang.
So I started telling my dad I want a car said well, what are you going to do about it?
Well, I thought, can you get me one?
No, I mean why, why?
Why am I supposed to get it for you?
Well, i'm 16, it'd be a great birthday present And my dad.
It doesn't work that way.
So I started cutting out pictures of Ford Mustangs in every magazine and strategically locating them around the house where he would see one wherever he went.
Bathroom, kitchen table, just trying to drop hints.
Anyway, when I turned 18, my father gave me every dollar I had given him since I was 13.
He had put it in the bank, and it had become something like $3,500 or $4,000.
And with that, I bought my first car with my money that I had earned.
And he took it from me because he didn't think I would have saved it.
And he was trying to teach me to save it.
So that's just how my brother and I were raised.
We just, you want something, you buy it.
And if you can't afford it, you don't get it.
Therefore, I didn't have things I couldn't afford.
And there were a lot of things I wanted.
I mean, most of my life couldn't afford.
My point with all this is that at some point, the Democrat Party started assuming the role of provider for people's needs, not just wants.
And that was the beginning of the end.
It destroyed the initiative of those people, and it then created expectations among those people that the government would pay for things.
To the point now where we have, in this Obamacare business, the price of prescriptions is just, it's senseless.
It's so out of proportion.
The price of health care itself is just ballooned.
It has no basis in reality.
It has no basis in any free market economic reality.
And the reason is it isn't priced for the consumer to pay for it.
It's priced for third parties to pay for it.
Governments who don't care what it costs.
Insurance companies who get reimbursed who don't care what it costs.
And so people at early impressionable periods of their lives begin to believe that they don't have to buy their own prescriptions.
There's something happened in healthcare where after a while, practically everybody began to assume that somebody else should pay for it because it's either a right or something that, give you a lawyer, why not give you a doctor if the Constitution gives you a free lawyer if you can't afford it?
Healthcare is, you know, why should it cost anybody anything?
These bastardizations of economic law took over.
Now we've gotten to the point where all of health care and now prescriptions are priced with no basis in reality.
They're priced such a way that 99% of people in the country cannot afford them.
And so the expectation is that somebody else should pay for it.
Be it an insurance policy or government or a political party or what have you.
The only point that I was making, Tab, was that had this bastardization not taken place, that if prescriptions had remained priced throughout his life as hotel rooms are, he'd be able to afford it himself.
If taxes hadn't gotten so high and people's disposable income was so small because the government, state, and local had taken so much of what people earn, they would be able to buy things for themselves, as we used to be able to do in this country.
But the Democrat Party has successfully changed the way most people think, and that is that somebody else ought to buy stuff that we want or need.
And it's, I don't know how you roll it back.
So here you have poor Tab, the guy from Salt Lake City, under Obamacare.
His just one of his medications has gone from $200 a month to $1,200 a month, except he's losing his insurance.
He can't afford it.
He has no way of affording it.
And my only point is, it's, look, this is trying to close the barn door after the horses have escaped.
I know that.
But none of this would have happened had there not been this assumption by a political party that they could get eternal power with vote buying schemes that ended up providing for people.
It's the single most destructive thing that has happened to this country is the Democrat Party.
And maybe not just the Democrats, but this whole mentality in Washington that people are owed something and that there is political gain for a politician seen as providing it.
I am convinced that Obama won election as much as anything because he's seen his Santa Claus.
And I don't know anybody who can beat Santa Claus in an election.
Obama's an adult Santa Claus where adults still believe in it and that the bastardization of our economy in so many areas has occurred precisely because the Democrat Party, starting with FDR and the New Deal, assumed the role of provider for people.
And in the process, they destroyed the black family.
They've destroyed many family institutions by assuming the role of provider, husband, father, leaving the men free to go out and be whatever they want and not pay attention and be responsible for the kids they've procreated.
It's just an abject, total mess.
And I was not saying to Tab in Salt Lake City, well, buddy, pay for it yourself.
He can't.
That's the problem.
Had the Democrat Party not been involved and their policies not prevailed, none of this bastardization and destruction would have occurred.
I'll never forget.
Speaking of my dad, one of his best friends was a pediatrician, family friend, Jim Kinder.
I remember them sitting around.
I'm 12 years old, and I'm that Medicare and Medicaid are getting started.
And I'm listening to them complain and warn me.
Son, I'm 12 years old, and my dad, Dr. Kinder, are warning us what's going to happen if the government succeeds in socializing medicine and nationalizing it.
And of course, I'm 12.
What do I know?
I believe my dad.
But HR just asked me, this is a good question.
When did you realize the government was, what was your, how did you phrase it, H.R. What was it?
Oh, yeah.
Well, he said, when did you realize you're getting mugged by the government?
And I had to stop thinking, probably age 28 is when I became aware of what taxes were doing.
And that, by the way, yeah, because that was 20, when Reagan got elected in 1980, 81, I was 30, and that's when I started becoming sensitive to what was happening with Reagan talking about tax cuts and so forth.
And then I started reading National Review and Bill Buckley, and that was my tax education.
So it was around 28 or 30.
His point is, it took me till age 28 to realize I was being mugged by the government.
And an unfair, unrealistic percentage of my income was being taken.
And his point is that young people today are learning it a lot sooner.
Like this guy, Kevin.
He's learning it at age 19, 20, 21, which is a good thing, actually.
Young people are discovering earlier how they're being mugged than I did, age 28.
It's just a passing little note of some interest.
But really, it does amaze me the millions of Americans who have been corrupted by the Democrat Party, who now actually do believe that providing for themselves is laughable.
That this sense of personal responsibility is by the wayside.
I try to think back what my life would be like if I can just tell you this.
If I had lived most of my life with the belief that whatever I wanted was not my responsibility, I wouldn't be doing this program today.
I wouldn't have become anywhere near successful enough.
I wouldn't have gotten close to doing this program if I and that's my point.
It just, it just, this stuff just kills people's ambition and their desire.
And to know that there's a political party capitalizing on it, capitalizing on it, promoting it, and all the while they're claiming that they're the ones with compassion and concern and care for people, they're destroying people in the sense that they're destroying their integrity, their ambition, their future.
I got to take a break.
Sit tight, my friends.
We will be back and continue after this.
Back to the phones, we go.
This is Robert in San Diego.
Robert, I'm glad you called.
Great to have you on the program.
Hello.
Thank you, sir.
And Occupied California, solicitations or greetings?
My thing is, do you believe that when Hillary gets elected and she gets into office because Bill Clinton knows how DC works and probably still has connections there, that she would make modifications to Obamacare more to, you know, to create more power for the Democrats than really to fix anything?
Oh.
Let me make sure I understand the question.
All right.
You asking me if I think if Hillary's elected because her husband knows how Washington works, that she will fix health care?
Well, you know, to recover from the losses that they're going to have in 14 and 16.
So she'll do, you know, a little minor tweet, tweet here and there to regain power in the Congress.
What losses?
What losses that they have?
Losses from the losses they think they're going to get from when the next election in the House and the Senate, the Democrats lose their seats.
Let me tell you, if Hillary's elected president, the Democrats are going to have any losses.
If Hillary's elected president, they're going to, I mean, that would take place in a Democrat switch.
Look, here's the bottom.
If Hillary Clinton's elected, it's only going to get it worse.
She believes in everything Obama believes.
Her mentor was Saul Alinsky.
She believes in the same stuff.
She and Bill are just a little bit less, I don't know what's the word, obvious about it.
They're every bit, if they could have done what Obama's doing today, they would have done it.
Hillary just going to continue this.
She's not going to change anything, roll it back, revise.
What has she ever fixed?
Everything that she gets hold of is broken.
Don't give me that.
She didn't fix education in Arkansas.
It turned out to be number 49 or 50 in the state after she got hold of it.
She's not fixed anything.
She didn't fix Benghazi.
She presides over disasters.
Hillary Clinton breaks things.
She doesn't fix anything.
Good.
Grief.
Maplewood, Minnesota.
Greg, hello.
Welcome to the EIB Network.
Nice to have you.
Hi, Rush.
It's an honor to speak with you.
Thank you very much.
I want to get to the point.
I have two cancers.
My insurance company is MCHA, which is Minnesota Comprehensive Health Insurance, which was dropped October 1st because of all the problems they were having.
They extended it to the next year.
Now, my question for you is, I'm in need of the stem cell replacement surgery, which has already been approved by MCHA.
Now, if I go to another insurance company, even though they say I cannot be, I have to be accepted to the insurance, where's the guarantee that they're going to accept me to have the stem cell replacement surgery since that's my last defense of my disease.
And so you're asking me if you will qualify for insurance and treatment under the next plan?
I know I will qualify for the insurance, but are they going to follow through and accept the stem cell replacement surgery?
My stem cells are frozen right now at Mayo Clinic in Rock.
Well, now, why wouldn't they?
Because they never follow through with all their decisions.
Now, if they do that, I would be very happy.
But talking with the insurance companies, nobody can guarantee that they'll follow through with the treatment.
Even though you will have insurance for it.
Correct.
Well, I don't know that I'm qualified to answer this.
Only I could do is give you a wild guess based on what's happening to other people.
And you're basically saying if you like your stem cell treatment, will you be able to keep it?
Correct.
And the history is no.
I mean, sadly, if you like your doctor, you were going to be able to keep him, but you can't.
If you like your policy, you're going to be able to keep that, but you can't.
And it's a crapshoot.
It's all about level of treatment and what some distant third party who doesn't care, no personal stake, is going to make a judgment on the cost and whether or not it makes sense to be spent on you.
And that's what I'm getting at is because I cannot accept any more treatment after the stem cell replacement is done, according to my doctor at the Mayo.
The chemotherapy will not help after that.
So the stem cell replacement surgery is my last defense for, say, like a chemotherapy.
And Can't find anybody right now that will assure you that that stem cell treatment will occur.
Is that right?
Correct.
Through the exchange that I'm going through, through the state exchange, when I call the insurance companies that they said, here you are in law, you are on our state exchange.
When I call them, they say, well, you know, yes, they will review the stem cell replacement surgery, but does it guarantee you to get it?
This is so frustrating.
I mean, this ought to be between you and your doctor and your insurance company, and you got to go through this bunch of hoops that they tell us is an improvement over this.
It's just insulting.
My heart goes out to you.
Greg, this is absurd.
Here is Jacqueline in Atlanta.
Hi, Jacqueline.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hi, Rush.
It's an honor to be on your show and have a chance to speak with you.
Thank you very much.
Okay, so my only statement was: I just, and please understand I'm extremely conservative and force law government, okay?
But my question was, my statement is: when you had made a statement that Democrats were the ones that purchased the boats, I believe that both parties do it, not just the Democrats.
I believe that the Republican Party does also.
And I believe that's been that's something that has been a normal practice in our government for a very long time.
Well, in point of fact, you are correct as far as it goes in the sense that today the Republican Party does not object or fight any of this, either directly or indirectly.
They don't argue against it.
There's no pushback.
The message of self-reliance, rugged individualism is not part of the political dialogue anymore.
So in that sense, you are right.
It is by a couple of people.
You can name them on one hand that are nationally known political people that make the argument.
But the fact of the matter is, Jacqueline, even though the Republicans are eager followers now, this all got started with FDR and the New Deal.
Democrat Party are the authors, the architects, the experts.
And there is now a reluctance.
It's been going on so long, and so many people are so dependent and have so many expectations.
And so many people just think that's the way it is, that any argument against it is characterized as racism, extremism, mean-spiritedness, bigotry, and that silences the Republicans, and they acquiesce.
So I can't deny, I can't deny they go along with it now.
I actually thought it got started back when like the Vanderbilts and Rockefellers and J.P. Morgan and Andrew Carnegie were developing the country at that time when there was presidential candidates that were coming up against them specifically.
So they started, made the decision that they could create and develop and purchase by their own president of the United States.
Well, now that's a whole different discussion.
I mean, back in the day, John Pierpoint Morgan had more money than the government and would often loan the money government to bail the government out.
But I mean, as a political identity, Carnegie and Mellon and Rockefeller, there was no tax at all when these people were making their money.
They were just, they were extremely wealthy.
And of course they did a lot of charitable things for public relations and PR and so forth.
There's no question.
But they didn't start this idea.
They were not out seeking votes for high office, demanding to wield power by promising people benefits and things like FDR did.
I mean, that's a separate, you know, how do you think the Carnegies and the Mellons by choosing candidates to do this are actually responsible for this?
I feel like that they started it and create it, started it and created the thought process behind it.
And obviously everything's going to develop into what it is today.
But yeah, I believe that they are the ones that created that idea.
But they weren't buying votes.
The Vanderbilts and the Morgans and the Carnegies, they never ran for office.
No, they didn't do that, but they did buy their presidents, though, which technically the president bought their votes.
Ones that had the same deal.
They used their influence to bribe and blackmail and provide hookers and any number of things for various Democrats, and they entrapped them and so forth.
But these people did not believe in the redistribution of wealth.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
Well, that's what I'm talking about.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, I must not have heard the whole thing then.
But yeah, so no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, no, no redistribution of wealth.
They, you know, obviously like myself, I wish I was like them.
But they're kind of on a list like I am.
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
You want to be like the Carnegie's, the Melon's, the...
I would like to be able to have that same type of business sense and true routine.
I'm a bit kind and giving and to my default education.
Here's the problem.
The Rockefellers, you can't do that because they discovered the oil.
Somebody asked John D. Rockefeller, what's the secret to getting rich?
He said, I started digging in the sands of Saudi Arabia and I found this black stuff as oil.
So that's been done.
I mean, I already have my own company, so yeah.
But there's nothing, I mean, you can't become a robber baron today because of the tax code.
You cannot become as big as those people were.
The income tax would stop you dead in your tracks.
But there's nothing stopping you from trying to create a great company standard of living for yourself or what have you.
I mean, nobody's going to be able to do it on that scale anymore.
I take that back.
I take that.
You know, that's not really true.
Warren Buffett and Gates, they're in, they're, well, in fact, way beyond that league.
Google Boys, well, the Facebook guy, yeah, but they don't, they don't, they're not nearly as conspicuous in their consumption as those guys were.
I mean, you ever been to Newport, Rhode Island and seen the Vanderbilt home they lived in six weeks a year?
The Breakers.
These people, the Vanderbilts, of course, were the railroad.
Don't mention them to the Chinese, by the way.
The Vanderbilts built the railroad.
And when it was time to go to Newpot for the season, they would load the silverware and everything they had in the New York mansion on a train and load it up for six weeks and then take it back wherever they were going.
It was incredible.
But it was all born of the legitimate creation of wealth.
These people invented, created, built, manufactured.
JP Morgan did it with debt, but that still is a legitimate interview.
Well, average person, the income tax would stop you.
Most people.
Nobody is going to get wealthy like that working for somebody else, is my only point.
You've got to start your own business.
If you look at, I mean, Gates and Buffett are not building these giant monolithic mansions in 15 different cities.
Well, Larry Ellison, actually, Larry Ellison, the Oracle, is actually buying whole islands.
That's what he's doing with his money.
He's bought a couple of these mansions on Breakers Row in Newport, for example.
Just doesn't live in them, just buys them.
It's where he's parking his money.
And that's the computer business.
That's Oracle.
That's business software.
Java, any number of other things.
I'm speaking in a too generalistic sense when I say you can't do it because you can, but not as an employee.
The income tax is going to stand in your way.
But if you be in there's my point to you, Drax, there's nothing stopping you.
It may be a little harder today because there's less to be discovered or invented, but maybe not.
I mean, even the things that exist, look at, you know, what Jobs did.
He didn't really invent anything.
He just massively commercialized and improved it, whatever it was that they decided to touch.
This is this, I'm glossing over some of this stuff, and it really deserves far more detail than I'm going into here because of the constraints of time.
My point to you, Jacqueline, is that you can.
You can certainly try, and there's nothing wrong with it.
You want to be a robber baron?
If you want to own a political machine like the Democrats, there has never been a Republican political machine, has there?
Like the Democrats have had a – I mean, well, like Chicago, the Republicans ever run anything like they run Illinois and Chicago?
They don't, right?
Not that I can think of.
You know, the Vanderbilts and the Rockefellers and the Morgan's and the Mellons and the Carnegies and all.
They're called the robber barons.
Who did they steal from?
Nobody.
Who did they steal from?
They were called robber barons.
Who did they steal from?
The government is who steals.
They didn't steal from anybody.
Now, the Google guys, the Google guys, Amazon, these people, you know, the people that have developed the so-called cloud software business, cloud storage, which is just, they own server farms and that's where your data is.
They're scared to death that the NSA and this spying is going to frighten people away from cloud computing and storage.
And they're not going to, they're not going to use Google services.
They're not going to use Amazon.
They're not going to use iCloud with Apple.
They're going to start once again storing their data on their local computers and hard drives.
The NSA can still get to you if they want to.
All you got to do is log into the internet and they can find you, no matter where your data is stored.
But that's a legitimate concern that they have nevertheless.
If the NSA has got everybody convinced that they're spying on everybody and stealing your data, people naturally, well, I'll just keep my data to myself.
That way the NSA can't get it.
But they're raiding Google servers.
They can raid anybody if they want to.
Sadly, my friends, we are out of time.
No more busy broadcast moments available to us on this busy broadcast day.
But there's always tomorrow.
Happens to be Open Line Friday tomorrow.
But I have some great callers today.
And we'll look forward to more of the same tomorrow.
Thanks so much, as always, for being with us.
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