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Oct. 10, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 10, 2013, Thursday, Hour #2
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All right, so there's Jay Carney out there saying that Obama's happy that Boehner has offered a temporary uh not temporary, a short-term extension of the debt limit.
And then he said that uh shutdown over Obamacare is a fool's errand.
Yeah, well, maybe from Obama's standpoint, but if it hadn't been for the effort to do this, we wouldn't even be here now.
And we wouldn't have had a chance to expose Obama for who and what and the Democrats for who and what they really are.
Which is what this is really all about to me.
And I I you know that by the way, welcome back, folks.
Uh L. Rushbour here, 800-282-2882, the email address L Rushbo at EIB net.com.
Let me see if I can explain something else that's been happening here in the past few weeks.
Um we have talked frequently here about the um Internacene battle among conservatives, Republicans and conservatives.
And even if you subdivide it further, Tea Party conservatives versus the people that think they are mainstream Kirkian, as in Russell Kirk, or Burkean, as in Edmund Burke, conservatives.
And as such, that manifested itself in the Obamacare fight with two groups.
You had the Cruz and Mike Lee group, which was the defund, and then you had other groups that thought that was a mistake and they wanted to delay.
And in the process of delay, if you can, for example, delay the individual mandate, you take the guts out of the whole law.
And the delay group thought the defund group was a bit disingenuous because they didn't think the defund group ever had a prayer of winning because there was never going to be the votes and to override an Obama veto on it.
And I didn't get caught up in all that because the competitive nature of this and and the uh you know who is a real conservative is not of interest to me.
It isn't.
But it is to other people.
I uh a prominent media analyst, conservative, sent me a note, and he was livid.
He was fit to be tied.
He thinks Cruz and Lee are fruitcake nuts.
And when he says so, he says he gets vicious, mean email from conservatives insulting him and calling him names and so forth.
I said, gee whiz.
Is that the first time?
I mean, I I just I uh the thin skin nature of uh tendencies of some people, I guess surprises me, but I try to understand it all, nevertheless, because it all matters at the end of the day.
Now, I happened to glom on to the Cruz Lee defund effort, and whether it had a chance of succeeding or not, ultimately was not a reason to avoid it to me.
And I didn't see, you know, I'm I'm equally supportive of the defunders.
I I don't, it's not either-or and the other side, the ors are my enemy.
I just I just don't look at it that way.
Either one would have been perfect.
I don't anybody who is opposed to Obama is fine and dandy.
Anybody opposed to Obamacare, fine and dandy, whatever their reason.
Now I understand that the defund group didn't like the I'm sorry, the delay conservatives didn't like the defund conservatives because they thought the defund conservatives knew that they didn't have a prayer, and that they were just using people to fundraise.
And the delay people said that those people would insult them if they wouldn't agree with Cruz, and then there would be threaten uh threats to primary people out of the party if they didn't express law.
I don't get caught up in all that.
That that is uh it's it's too infantile to me, and it's a distraction from what really is important, what's important.
And maybe I'm the one all wet here.
Maybe I'm the one with the impossible task.
Maybe I'm the guy that's got the impossible dream.
But for 25 years, the purpose of this program has been to create as large and informed participating voting group of conservative Americans as possible, without any regard to how much money I make in the process from politics.
I don't fundraise, I don't help people fundraise, I don't that's of no interest to me.
It's all ideas to me.
It's pure ideas.
I think ideas triumph, ideas trump, and if properly explained and properly persuasive, that's ultimately where victory is.
I'm not a professional politician.
I don't want to be.
I'm not intimately or intricately involved in the minutia of that.
But I understand it.
I understand the people who are, I respect it, it's their business.
But I don't take a position here based on is it going to help somebody fundraise, or is it going to help somebody get primaried out or any of that?
The defund effort to me happened to be attractive because it was led finally by somebody who could articulate conservatism.
Ted Cruz.
I said, Loan, but we got somebody who can articulate conservative, somebody who can explain to the American people what's wrong with Obama, Obamacare, and the Democrat Party.
I thought there's value in that.
The effort to defund, I thought, I thought it was it was it was it had valor in it.
It was a it was a great great objective.
If we if we never did things because it said they're impossible, I shudder to think what wouldn't have ever gotten done in this country.
You never know until you start.
And sometimes when you have an objective, you lay it out.
Maybe the defund people, I don't know, that there's maybe there's uh a point where it's considered successful even if they don't reach that specific goal.
And I think we're here.
I I I think Obama's at 37%.
The Democrats, I don't care what they think inside the beltway.
The Democrats are discombobulated.
And I don't care about these polls that say that the Republicans are losing in the shutdown.
That is a poll you can do that any day of the year, and you're gonna get that result.
The spread in this poll, say versus 95, which is what everybody wants to go back to and compare.
The spread this year in Republicans being blamed versus Democrats is much smaller than it was in 1995.
We have a president not nearly as likable as Clinton was back in 1995.
And we we don't, we there's just a lot of things that are that are happening today that weren't happening in 1995 that make a positive difference.
Bill Clinton was never 37%, even after Lewinsky.
A majority of people never oppose Clinton on much.
We had a majority of people opposing Obamacare, opposing most of his policies here.
We got one factor here that nobody knows how to deal with, and that's race.
That's the new the race of the president.
That's what's got everybody Stein shut down on our side.
That's what's got them palpably afraid to say or do anything.
I just read it, I just saw a piece by Victor Davis Hanson that he published at his website, and he normally writes it national review online, and maybe it'll get posted there, probably so.
But he makes the point that it's Obama his looking incoherent, it's Obama who's looking small, it's Obama who who's who's looking petty, and his point is that Obama will make a deal sooner rather than later if you just keep the pressure on.
We're in the process.
I I'm not gonna say, and people would say abandon my my uh post here at reality if I were to say something like we are winning.
That's maybe that's not the case.
But we're at a place where we haven't been in five years.
We're winning, we're winning the public perception Obamacare, but but that's not even a public perception battle.
That's reality.
People are signing up and they're finding it's a it's a disaster.
People are finding out that none of what they were told about it is true.
It isn't cheaper.
It isn't easier.
It isn't anything that they were told.
The 26-year-old college student, University of Michigan.
She wrote she has been raped by this law.
She's 26.
She's now not covered by her parents' policy, and she's found out it's going to take every disposable dollar she earns to pay for this.
Every disposable dollar.
That means.
Well, what does that mean?
That means no streaming video from iTunes.
Or whatever disposable income is spent on these days by 26-year-olds.
She made it clear.
She's got two degrees, and she can't get a job that's longer to 32 hours a week because of Obamacare.
The jobs that she has pay $8 to $10 an hour because of Obamacare.
She's got two degrees.
She's working in a gymnasium.
Now this I don't want to extrapolate and say this is happening all over the place, but it doesn't have to be happening all over.
It just is going to at some point as people sign up.
In Hawaii, they had to shut down and reset.
Nobody signed up.
Nobody could figure out how to do it.
In California, they're talking greatly that signed up 16,000 people or something.
Whoa, what a success rate this 16,000 people or some such thing.
This economy isn't a tank, it's an absolute joke.
There is no growth taking place.
There's nothing that's in anywhere reminiscent of a growing economy where careers are being created and opportunity is abundant.
It isn't.
That's reality.
People are living it.
They know it.
They don't have to be persuaded of any of that.
And something else that's happening without us having to do anything.
The very fact that we have delayed the implementation, the full implementation, the very fact that we've taken action that has caused all kinds of attention to be paid to the implementation.
The people that run this government are showing everybody how they are willing to corrupt it and power and government in order to get what they want.
We have the greatest argument for limited government we've had in my lifetime in Barack Obama, Esquire.
The single greatest argument for limited government, Barack Obama and today's Democrat Party.
And it's happening to people every day.
And that's why I like the crew's effort, because there's somebody out there, while all this was going on, who was able to articulate the conservative alternative.
And Mike Lee does it well too, who is able to talk about what limited government means in terms of personal opportunity.
You know, conservatism is not a list of policies.
Conservatism is not tax cuts.
Conservatism is a way of life that is rooted in values and traditions that have contributed to the greatness of this country.
Conservatism is the way you live.
And that just has to be pointed out to people.
To people growing up today, conservatism, gotta shudder to think what it is.
What is conservatism to somebody that's 18 today?
Conservatism is a deranged lunatic, stupid cowboy, George Bush, who wanted to go into Iraq for no reason.
What do you think the way the media, the Democrat Party have defined conservatism today is a bastardization of what it is.
One of the frustrating things is the Republican Party's always been the modern day repository for conservatism, but you can't find anybody there who's willing to stand up and articulate it.
Because they're afraid to, or they don't know what it is, or they don't believe in it, whatever.
But Cruz and Mike Lee, and there are a bunch of others, uh, and they are largely from the Tea Party, who are willing.
Alan West was one, Ben Carson is another.
There are all kinds of people standing up out there, willing to articulate what it is.
And when you listen to them, you find out it's a lifestyle.
It's a value-based lifestyle that's rooted in Personal responsibility, achievement, freedom, liberty.
Conservatism is not a bunch of policy wonks sitting around writing position papers.
Conservatism is simply how happy, contemptful, responsible people live their lives.
People who respect others.
That's how they it's conservatism.
But it's been so bastardized in the media.
Uh it has been so mischaracterized, demonized, you name it.
That young skulls full of mush, maybe as old as 3035.
What do you think they think conservatism is?
What could they hopefully be?
There hasn't been a conservative articulate spokesman in politics for I don't know how long.
And so the Democrats and the media have been able to define what a conservative is.
It's a racist, sexist, bigot, homophobic extremist.
The furthest thing from the truth.
So Cruz and Lee came along in the process of trying to get what they wanted were articulating conservatism for people.
I signed on immediately.
Because to me it's about ideas.
But the the delay people, I love them, I love them too.
Same objective.
The point was stop Obamacare.
There were arguments about how best to do it.
Sign on with both sides.
I don't care.
I'm not into the fundraising business of it.
I don't care about any of that.
Although I do want to I do want to go back to our last caller.
She was a major donor, and she pointed out she's not giving to the Republicans anymore because she's conservative.
She doesn't like what the establishment Republicans are doing.
There's a Washington Post story on Friday.
It's probably scrolled out of my view by now.
It has.
The Washington Post story on Friday, which made the claim that the GOP donor class is fed up with the Tea Party, and they're threatening not to give Karl Rove any more money, and they're threatening not to give any of these PACs.
And the party and the RNC aren't going to give any money until they get rid of these Tea Party kooks.
And yet our caller, who confessed to being a major donor, said, no, no, no.
I'm telling the establishment Republicans they're not getting a dime out of me because of what they're doing to the Tea Party.
But as far as the mainstream is concerned, they want everybody to think that the RNC and the Republican Party donors are holding out until the establishment somehow does away with Cruz, does away with Lee and ends the shutdown, lets Obama pass all the way fully funded, and then gives us amnesty.
And only then is the Republican donor class going to come back and be happy.
That what you want.
Because that's what the liberal media says it's going to take for the Republican Party to once again be viable.
Obamacare fully funded, Cruz and Lee relegated irrelevancy, and amnesty to law of the land.
Until there's a chance of that happening, the Republican donor class is holding their money out.
I think that's a crock.
It may be true in some cases.
But I think there's just as much money on the other side being withheld.
Anyway, uh I've got to take a break.
I look at the clock.
Come back here.
There's there's other stuff in the news, folks, and we'll get to that.
Plus your phone calls.
So you sit tight, back with more after this.
Your guiding light, your bulwark, rush limbaugh.
Half my brain tied behind my back, as always, just to be fair about things, and to Manhattan.
We go, this is D. I'm glad you called.
Great to have you with us here.
Hi.
It's great to talk to you.
I wish my father were still alive.
He'd be so happy.
Well, thank you very much.
I'm uh I appreciate you saying that.
Um, Rush, what I wanted to say is I think uh what uh Ted Cruz and Mike Lee did, and probably their purpose was to educate People.
And Rand Paul did not agree with the strategy, but he participated in it.
And it was so great to listen to Ted Cruz reading all these letters from all over the country, including one from James Hoffett Jr.
That told people how bad Obamacare is.
And this got people talking the next day.
I don't think there's any doubt of that.
If it hadn't been for what those people did, we wouldn't be here right now.
Absolutely.
The shutdown would not have happened, the debt limit would have been raised and the debt skyrocketing and Obamacare be fully implemented, and we'd be on the way to amnesty.
And it was more education than the Republican Party has given the American people on this issue.
I think that's it.
I think that's the goldmine.
And it was coupled with an effort, invitation to people to involve themselves in it.
Yeah, there was a website, go sign a petition.
A lot of people say that's not going to do anything.
That's not going to make it.
It gets people it gets people involved.
It it it it puts some action behind of it.
And it it it illustrates the um uh the ability to move people.
I even had people uh impugn that.
Well you mean rest these people to attract anybody, a million and a half trillion signatures, big deal.
You think that guy's gonna win the presidency?
I got an incoming, I'll bet you have a million bucks and he was a nomination.
But all this long lines and hatred I don't understand.
Okay, disagree.
Maybe they don't have a chance to defund it.
Why the hatred?
Why there's so much animosity for these guys on our side?
I hated that too.
Uh your host, uh ladies and gentlemen, that would be me, came up in a debate last night in New Jersey.
Uh New Jersey Senate candidates, Newark Mayor Corey Booker, he with the imaginary friend, is that right?
See, the guy has the T-bone, he has the imaginary friend.
Dick Gephardt had one of those.
You know, Dick Gephardt, this Congressman is a imaginary friend, is telling him all the time to is a rich imaginary friend, is always saying, raise taxes, Dick.
I'll get really rich if you raise my taxes.
Gephardt was constantly telling us that.
And uh Cory Booker's got an imaginary T-bone is the uh you know.
And uh uh debating uh uh uh mayor Steve Lunagan, who's the Republican.
It's uh they're debating in an election for the seat of the Lout.
Frank Lautenberg.
And during a segment on the government shutdown, the moderator, Jim Rosenfield, said are members of your party, this Longan at first year, are members of your party in any way responsible for this impasse that led to this shutdown?
Members of my party, the Republican Party have introduced a series of bills to provide funding for all of these issues.
Harry Reid and Barack Obama have refused to negotiate because they want to jam Obamacare down our throats at any expense.
And my opponent in this race, Mr. Booker, he's only the Hollywood stand-in for Barack Obama in this ballot.
This election in New Jersey is a referendum on Obamacare, the NSA, the IRS abuse of power, the intrusion to our children's education, it's the destruction of our liberty.
That's what's on the ballot.
Now, here's Corey Booker responding to uh Steve Lunagan.
Listen to my opponent's rhetoric and listen to his positions.
It seems like he's doing more to try to run and replace Rush Limbaugh than Frank Lautenberg.
The reality is here is that's the kind of rhetoric that's going to drive further gridlock and further divisiveness.
Whoa.
So Booker says that Lunagan sounds like me.
Which is not, I think that seals the deal.
Lunagan wins.
More politicians, more Republicans sounding like me, the more Republicans who will win.
Just the way it is.
You know, folks, for the longest time, I have avoided all of the conventional wisdom that the left puts out, and it is the left, on fat, obese, health, exercise, all of that.
All of it.
I routinely, I loved going to the doctor And seeing my cholesterol even normal or just even a little bit below normal and a doctor getting mad.
Well, your cholesterol and your triglycerides ought to be sky high.
So why?
Well, because you're overweight.
I mean, it is well, but they're not, are they?
No.
I said, well, what's wrong with me?
Well, you have a tendency to a cholesterol, and we might want to put you on Medicaid.
I said, why?
It isn't elevated.
Well, because look at you, it's gonna be.
And if that isn't, and your blood sugar is gonna be someday.
You're gonna, you you're you're cruising for something wrong with you because you're overweight.
You need to start exercising, you start losing weight, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And it's more just conventional wisdom.
So apparently there is a health report out there which now says that obese people can be metabolically healthy.
And the media doesn't like it.
They were talking about this this morning on CNN on their morning show at Chris Cuomo, Kate Baldwin, Baldwin, I'm sorry, and uh Matt Wauer.
And they were talking about a new report about the healthy obese.
And it's just a little montage for the for the flavor.
The words healthy and obese can't go together, right?
Wrong.
A third of obese adults are actually considered healthy.
Can someone be both significantly obese and metabolically healthy?
Researchers say it's possible.
No.
Really?
It's not possible.
They don't believe it.
Then they went to who they think is their foremost authority on this, and that would be Al Roker.
And they asked Al Roker to weigh in on whether or not you can be healthy obese.
And this is what Al Roker said.
When I was at my heaviest, my cholesterol level was low, my blood pressure was good.
I mean, I still probably would have died.
That was a checking time bomb.
Technically was okay.
Technically, I was no, not technically, really.
If your cholesterol was below normal and your blood pressure was okay, and you happen to be fat, you were still metabolically healthy.
But he's then he got that's exactly this loses all this weight with whatever the surgery they do, whatever, and he starts pooping his pants in the White House and starts bragging about it.
That's the thing I could get.
Look at I can understand losing control of the bowels if you got a you're sick or you've eaten something, but to brag about it and laugh about it, that's where I lost it.
But that's just it's the new culture.
That's cool.
Makes a good tweet, I guess.
But he's Al says, uh, I was a ticking time bomb.
Al, we're all ticking time bombs.
There isn't anybody yet who has survived death.
Do you know of anybody?
We're all ticking time bombs.
Anyway, it's just not a big deal, folks.
It's just I just love destroying conventional wisdom.
Now, we had a soundbite from Wolf Blitzer yesterday that Wolf is now denying, he said.
Oh, yes, let's go back to this program yesterday.
We played a clip of Wolf Blitzer reacting to a report critical to the White House rolled out of the Obamacare website.
And then I reacted to the clip.
Here's what happened.
If they had three years to get this ready, if they weren't fully ready, they should accept the advice that a lot of Republicans are giving them.
Delay it another year, get it ready, and make sure it works.
Whoa!
No, no, no, Wolf, do you really mean to say that?
Oh, be still here, my heart here.
Did Wolf really say play that again?
I'm not sure what I just heard what I heard.
And we played it again, and in fact, Wolf did say that they had three years to get it ready, and if they weren't fully ready, they should accept the advice of a lot of Republicans are giving them.
Delay it.
Delay it another year, get it ready, and make sure it works.
So today, I'm sorry, last night on CNN, Anderson Cooper.
The guests are Robert Pittinger, Republican North Carolina, and Jeffrey Tubin, who's their senior legal uh analyst.
And during a discussion about the call to delay the individual mandate for a year, Pitiger and Tubin have this exchange.
Obamacare isn't ready for prime time.
We've recognized that.
Even your own Wolf Blitzer said we all delayed a whole year.
Wolf did not say that.
Wolf asked a question.
He even tweeted a clarification later.
He asked why would you put up a website that wasn't ready?
Well, uh no.
He actually said you should do it.
Let's go back.
Grab soundbite number five.
So we have Jeffrey Tubinson, the Wolf didn't say that.
He asked the question and he tweeted a clarification letter uh uh uh later.
He asked why would you put up a website that wasn't ready?
But here's here's what Wolf said is CNN is now denying Wolf denying, Jeffrey Tubin's denying.
Uh they tweeted it doing everything to say that Wolf did not say this.
If they had three years to get this ready, if they weren't fully ready, they should accept the advice that a lot of Republicans are giving them.
Delay it another year, get it ready, and make sure it works.
Whoa!
What was where was the question in there?
I didn't hear a question.
Wolf just said it.
Anyway, he must have gotten a lot of heat on this.
It must have got a lot of heat on it, and then this Pittinger guy called him on it and said, Oh, no, no, no, no, Wolf never said that.
What you're talking about.
Wolf never said that.
He was uh asking a question, even tweeted a clarification out there.
And Anderson Cooper said, Yeah, yeah, he didn't say that.
But he did.
I mean, we it.
I think we do.
I think we need to hear this again.
I don't I don't hear the question in here.
I I hear Wolf making a statement.
If they had three years to get this ready, if they weren't fully ready, they should accept the advice that a lot of Republicans are giving them.
Delay it another year, get it ready, and make sure it works.
You know what I ought to do?
I for the for the you know, every break, and welcome back to the EIB network.
And Rush Limbaugh Wolf Blitzer says, why not delay Obamacare for a year until they get it ready?
Just the way he kept pounding Bush's approval number.
A gazillion times in a three hour show.
Anyway, I didn't hear the question.
But they just had to try to walk that back.
He must have gotten a lot of heat.
One more thing before we go to the break.
Yesterday told you that the mayor of Washington, D.C. went up to Harry Reid and gave him grief in front of live microphones over the shutdown and how it was impacting Washington.
And Harry Reid was embarrassed and got on the guy's got in a guy's chili.
And he said, Hey, you shut up.
I mean, I'm out there trying to blame the Republicans.
You don't come up to me in public.
You don't blame me.
You're gonna screw it up.
Shut up, Mayor.
Here's how that actually sounded.
It was in Washington, and it was Mayor Vincent Gray from the District of Columbia talking dingy Harry.
Now this goes by fast.
It's only four seconds.
So listen fast.
We're simply trying to be able to spend our own money.
I'm on your side, don't screw it up.
I'm on your side, don't screw it up.
Harry Reid, could you hear Harry Reed say that?
Play it again.
Here's Harry Reid.
It's it's really hard to hear for me.
Four seconds, the mayor is look, we just we didn't want to spend our own money, sir.
You're cutting us off.
You're coming, we want to spend our own money when you shut down, you're hurting us.
And Reed says, I'm on your side.
Don't screw it up.
In other words, shut up for now.
We're simply trying to be able to spend our own money.
I'm on your side, don't screw it up.
I'm on your side, don't screw it up.
Um guy may get the Joe the Plumber treatment before it's uh all said and done.
Be right back, folks.
Gonna head back to the phones, and uh we've got Greg on the phone from Lulu.
Greg, great to have you.
Hi.
Hi, Russ.
Great show.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate that.
I called him up these journalists that were in the President Obama invited to the White House a couple of days ago.
And they're conservative journalists, and I guess they were all uh conservative journalists who had criticized Senator Cruz and Central Lee and Senator Paul who've been fighting, you know, for the to defund our uh uh the uh Obamacare.
Uh it's interesting, it seems like it's a strategy to to try to drive a wedge in the Republican Party and try to try to ostracize Senator Cruz and his uh supporters.
And I just think it's uh uh uh uh interesting situation, and you've got the surrender caucus of journalists that were called in, the Bayern York.
Well, who who who uh uh who who were these people advised I know that Crowdhammer was what who are some of the people.
And Bayern York and Crowdhammer and the people who are Well, do you think they've have you read anything they've written or heard anything they've said since that visit?
Do you think that uh Obama got to them?
Yeah, I think he did, absolutely.
I think especially I think of Bayern York, especially, absolutely, yes.
And uh I I just say I I think it's just a strategy to divide the opposition by Obama.
Well, uh there's no doubt about that.
I just I d I I um I haven't I uh you know I haven't studied it the way you apparently have.
I don't know I just I just think it's exciting we haven't leader like Cruz and I have just who are just doing something that's standing up and and bringing attention to this issue, and I I think that's just a an inspirational thing, and we need to support it.
Well, I agree.
I mean uh uh one of the themes of the program today.
I just I'm curious uh that you think that you're detecting Byron York having changed the way he reports and writes since Well just speak I've heard him speak on the radio.
Uh I don't know what he's written.
I read what he's written today, but uh he seems to be indicating a little bit of uh hesitancy to criticize the president.
These are the people who were always complaining about the Republicans and the death ceiling on the sequester, by the count counseling give a give in, don't make a scene, don't splur.
Here's the list.
I have this was uh it was Dr. Kraut Emma, it was Paul Jigot of the Wall Street Journal, Robert Costa, National Review, Kathleen Kathleen Parker, and uh Byron York.
All of these people, I believe, every single one of them has been on the on the anti-cruise side and the Republican uh this debate.
Well, you may have a point there, but they were I think they were anti-cruise before Obama called them up.
Right.
That's why he called that's why what I'm saying is that's why he called he called them up to give them attaboys.
Yeah, and to and to yeah, exactly.
And to and to encourage the division.
Right.
Do you have you read anything that Robert Costa has either blogged or written, posted at National Review?
Not since the the little power, no.
I want David Brooks's feelings are going to be hurt because he wasn't invited.
And he's the guy, I mean, he was all in creasing the slacks and so forth the first time around.
That's puzzling.
Maybe it'd be a round two at some point.
Yeah.
Brooks wasn't invited.
Hmm.
Well, you know, I hadn't I I I I knew it had happened, and I um I would I would think if it were me, I'd come out of there hellbent on making everybody know that I wasn't pliable.
I'd come out, I'd I'd be firing double barrels at Obama after something like that, rather than go soft on him, because I wouldn't want my readers to think I could that easily uh neutered as it may be.
Maybe he chose his subject well.
I hope not, but maybe so we'll see.
Byron York, I don't know.
I I the only the only guy on that list who really is consistently pro-Republican establishments, Costa from uh from National Review.
Uh now the other guys have their moments.
Yeah.
They go back and forth.
Uh they all do good work now and then.
Now and then.
But I'm trying now the uh Norman, there was something on the tip of my tongue I want to say here, it's slipping my mind.
And if I don't concentrate on it, it might.
Uh it'll it'll come to me at some point.
There's something else I wanted to add.
But but look, Greg, I appreciate the call.
Uh thanks much.
Isn't gonna matter uh anything, it's not a big deal one way or the other.
Uh Ray Oh, I know what George Will's call up today.
Uh George Will was one of the first in the first group invited back in 2009.
But I he wasn't in this group, and that's what it George Will has a column today.
It's based on a book that's just been written.
And I don't have the name of the book in front of me.
I'll find it during the break.
But the theory espoused in the book is that the modern liberalism that we know it can be traced to the Kennedy assassination.
This guy's theory is that faced with the choice that a communist, a little communist had killed Kennedy, or America's defects had killed Kennedy, the liberals chose America's defects.
And from that point to today, they began, they, they, they glommed on.
He gives quotes from Scotty Reston and New York Times writers, uh, blaming conservatives, blaming American culture, uh, blaming uh all sorts of rotten American characteristics for killing Kennedy.
And it begot the modern era of liberalism that America is to blame for everything.
And I've heard that theory espoused not quite that way before.
So I'll find out and get to it in detail in the next hour.
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This theory about the Kennedy assassination giving birth to the modern construct of liberalism is a fascinating theory.
And uh I'll lead with it when we get back from our obscene profit timeout here at the top of the hour.
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