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Sept. 20, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 20, 2013, Friday, Hour #3
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Alan Brouwer, the communications chair of the Democratic Party of Sacramento County, uh has tweeted to Ted Cruz's speechwriter, uh, wishing that her children all die from debilitating painful and incurable diseases.
Alan Brouwer, the communications chair of the Democratic Party of Sacramento County.
So he's like the guy that the Democratic Party of Sacramento County uh pays uh to run its communications operation.
He's the head honcho of their communicate.
So communicating is what he's supposed to be good at.
He says, may your children all die from debilitating painful and incurable diseases.
This is how Alan Brouwer.
And uh too many people on the left want to conduct the debate on health care.
Uh there's all kinds of debates you can have on health care, and given the hideous monstrosity of Obamacare, given the fact that people, whether they're part-time workers at Home Depot or whether they're the spouses and children uh of people covered by university plans, uh, given that they're all being told you've got to find other arrangements now.
You've got to have a uh given the premiums are going up, given given the way things are going, it's entirely legitimate to want to have a debate about health care.
But Alan Brouwer of the Democratic Party, the communications chair, the Democratic Party of Sacramento County, uh would rather uh h his opening move in the debate, uh by the way, if you try this in the debate, my my uh son uh has just gotten into the uh debating thing at his school and he's doing some debates.
And generally speaking, when they're teaching you how to uh conduct a debate, they don't say your opening remark should be to wish that your opponent's children all die from quote debilitating, painful and incurable diseases, and then start making remarks about tapeworms crawling out of the opposing speaker's bottom.
Uh and then to try and justify that your wish that uh this lady's children should painfully die uh by comparing it to quote the pain that Ted Cruz is inflicting on Americans.
Uh this is the way too much of the debate is conducted in America.
Uh and uh the the d the Democrats uh have s and the left generally succeed in uh portraying themselves as the nice people, because they're the ones that care about people, supposedly.
They're the ones that care about the poor.
They're the ones that care about Syrian children being gassed.
They're the ones who care about all these they they have the biggest hearts.
And yet when you see their hearts in close-up on their tweets at least, you see that they're actually desiccated, shriveled up uh l little things that don't even acknowledge the basic humanity of their uh uh of their political opponents.
And that's uh that's a real issue when it comes to political debate here.
Uh I'm a First Amendment guy, I'm a free speech guy.
I want to open I want to keep that's the core issue for me.
Uh that we should not constrain debate, that we should have free, honest and open debate.
And the Democrats, it's all about shutting it up.
It's all about saying no, you can't say that.
You can't advance that position.
You're not interested.
We're not interested in your opinion.
It's not an opinion.
It's not a respectable opinion.
It's actually uh just about uh it's actually uh just about wishing that uh people died.
So I hope your kids die.
I hope your kids die.
Um and uh and uh the same thing happened with uh uh some professor at uh what was it, Kansas University.
He hoped that uh kids of NRA members would be victims of a mass shooting.
Uh this is now standard.
That's the reflex position.
I disagree with you, so I want you to die.
And no, I don't want you to die.
I want your children to die horribly.
I want them to die a horrible, slow, lingering, bloody, hideous death, and for you to cradle their dying bodies in your arms.
So that's our kind of policy discussion.
My opening Gambit in our policy discussion is that your kids die.
We need more free speech and we need more honest uh debate uh and we need to call out guys who just want to talk about uh like Alan Brouwer, this is why we're calling him out.
He's the d he's the communications chair, so he's the go-to.
He's the guy who issues the press releases for the Democratic Party of Sacramento County, and his idea of a health care debate is that your kids die.
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Also on this uh the idea of civilized debate.
But this is what it's come to, incidentally, in California.
At Modesto Junior College, on Tuesday, Tuesday was Constitution Day in the United States, Constitution Day.
Uh, and uh a student at Modesto Junior College in California had pocket-sized pamphlets of the thing that Constitution Day is supposed to observe, which is the United States Constitution.
And he was handed out handing out free copies of the United States Constitution on Constitution Day at Modesto Junior College.
And a cop comes along, uh a campus cop and tells him you can't do that.
You can't do that.
Uh which actually negates the whole US Constitution.
Because you don't need your what's the point of the First Amendment uh having the first amendment in a constitution saying you can uh political speech is sacred, you can say what you like, if in fact you're not allowed even to hand out the Constitution.
Uh and so this uh this uh guy, Robert Van Tweenen, uh was told by the campus cop that you're only allowed to pass out free copies of the US Constitution at a tiny designated spot on campus that is called a free speech zone.
So once upon a time, the free speech zone, the according to the founders of this country, uh the free speech zone in America was supposed to be uh America.
That was the free speech zone.
So the free speech zone uh ought to stretch from Maine to Hawaii, from Florida to Alaska, and what the hell, let's throw in Guam as well.
That's supposed to be the free speech zone.
But this campus cop, uh he tells people, no, no, no, no, no.
He tells this guy, this student, who's handing out free copies of the US Constitution and Constitution Day, that that is not uh the free speech zone, uh, that that is in fact uh the free speech zone is this tiny little space, this tiny little corner, where you're allowed to hand out copies of the United States Constitution.
Because don't forget, this is very distressing to people.
It can be very offensive to people on a campus, because the campus campuses now, university historically has been where you explore ideas.
Uh it's it's where there's vigorous debate uh and intellectual inquiry.
But in America, we've turned that on their head.
So they're now just delicate flowers, and uh the United States Constitution is incredibly offensive uh and might distress people, so you so it can only be mentioned.
The United States Constitution can only be mentioned if you book in advance uh to be on the tiny little free speech zone uh in that is designated for handing out potentially controversial documents like the US Constitution.
And this guy hadn't booked in advance, so the cop said, unfortunately, and the administrator unfortunately, uh, you won't be able to get uh into the free speech zone today because uh, you know, someone's uh uh handing out stuff about uh the uh oceans rising in the Maldives or whatever.
Uh so you can't you can't get into the free speech zone today.
You'll have to come back and uh and do it some other time.
And uh and because of that, He wound up seeing an administrator.
This is a guy, he's not doing anything.
He's not doing anything that would be controversial in any point of human history, uh the history of the United States.
But he's hauled up before uh his local administrator at Modesto Junior College, a lady called Christine Serrano, uh who says that he can only hand out uh this offensive literature, the US Constitution, in the tiny little free speech area.
And she asks him to fill out an application, an application to hand out the United States Constitution, and asked to photocopy his uh student ID, and says that there's two other people in the free speech zone right now, so he'll have to wait until either uh the twenty-seventh or maybe into October.
So the idea being able, all this g kid has wanted to do, this uh Van Twinen guy, all he's wanted to do is hand out the US Constitution uh at onstitution day, at which point Christine Serrano dismissively tells him that you don't really need to keep going on about this.
Um's fascinating, that there's a video of this uh that's that's been shown on TV and is up on the internet now.
What's fascinating about this is the calmness of the cop uh in this exchange.
The cop has been doing this for years.
You know, he's just a copy uh it's just a job, it's well paying, it's got benefits, it's uh less trouble being a campus cop than uh, you know, maybe being on the California Highway Patrol or whatever.
He's got he di he's got no dog in this fight, he doesn't really care.
And he's just telling the guy he yet he thinks he's done this so often on an American university campus that he thinks it's entirely normal for the authorities for the the state authorities to tell a guy he can't hand out copies of his country's constitution in the United States.
Uh there's a fellow called uh Greg Lukyanov, who works for an excellent uh organization uh which is uh called FIRE.
I think it stands for uh what is it, Freedom Foundation for Individual Rights in Education.
And they're speaking up for free speech zones here.
And uh he says uh th that would be like a Mark Twain joke.
You know, this college is so crazy they wouldn't even let you pass out constitutions on Constitution Day.
But in fact it's entirely normal in America.
Now, as it happens, I'm gonna be uh in Ashbrook at the uh Ashbrook Center, which is part of Ashland University.
I always get those kind of confused.
Um but they actually they've actually set up uh to support the uh the United States Constitution.
They don't actually just ban it.
They're not content with uh banning it or not mentioning it.
They actually teach it, they're actually founded uh to celebrate the ideas behind the US Constitution.
I'm gonna be out speaking there.
I think it's October 10th, uh, and it's uh uh presented by uh WMAN, which is the Rush affiliate in that corner of Ohio at uh at Ashland University.
And uh they actually celebrate the 226th anniversary of America's founding document.
And people sometimes say to me, Well, why do you speak at Hillsdale?
Why do you speak at uh the Ashbrook Center at Ashland University?
Do you know how rare it is now to find an American educational institution that doesn't regard the United States Constitution as something that's dangerous, controversial, distressing, and that has to be damped down uh and and hedged off in the pathetic withered little free speech zone, the little c barren strip of concrete that's two feet by eight feet, where you're allowed to discuss the United States Constitution.
Uh Ashbrook, uh the Ashbrook Center at Ashland University is one of the few places left in American higher education that actually thinks the Constitution is a good idea worth disseminating to the next generation of Americans.
Uh and as I said, uh the Rush affiliate out there in Mansfield, WMAN, is uh is uh co-presenting this uh evening of mine on uh on October the 10th.
And uh we we we won't be confined to a little two by eight foot strip of concrete for the U.S. Constitution, we'll be talking about liberty uh on a big stage.
This is part, again, this goes back to Alan Brower saying, no, uh no, uh you can't uh talk about health care, I want your kids to die.
It's all about control.
It's about shriveling the ideas necessary to animate a free society.
It's about control, it's about saying it's not uh it's about the left continuously saying it's not about winning the debate, but about setting the rules so that no debate can take place.
And it's time for those of us on the right to say, screw off to that.
Nuts to that.
Let's have a debate, and may the best man win.
But if you're telling me we can't even have the debate, if you're telling me you don't want to debate anything except how violently my children should die because you disagree with me about health care pol policy, then get lost.
If your ideas are so pathetic, so weak that a cop has to ban the US Constitution, uh that colleges have to confine ideas to free speech zones.
That the only kind of debate the communications chair of a county Democratic Party will do is to say, I want your kids to die.
You've already lost the debate.
Your ideas are so weak they cannot s withstand vigorous, honest debate, which is what we need more of on campuses around this country.
Uh Mark Stein in for Rush, more straight ahead.
Mark Stein in for Rush on the EIB network, uh Representative Peter King, Peter King of New York, New York Republican, uh said he hopes today's House vote on Obamacare will be, quote, a major step in letting people know that Ted Cruz is a fraud.
I hope people will get the message this guy is bad for our party, said Peter King, and that Cruz would no longer have any influence in the Republican Party.
It's uh it's uh it's heating up the battle between uh Ted Cruz and uh and House Republic.
A lot of it is like this appalling Canadophobia, by the way, just 'cause the uh the guys are Canadian.
Some of us know uh for some time how that's felt.
Let's go to Chris in uh Northwestern Arkansas.
Chris, you are live on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Which which part is Northwest are you anywhere near Hope or Hot Springs?
Is that Clinton country you're in, Chris?
No, I'm on I'm in the upper Northwest coin.
Oh, right, right.
Or in Wally World land.
Okay.
So you're uh you're well you're well clear of uh of uh of the uh Clinton stopping grounds.
Uh yes and great to have you with us on the case.
One of the few Arkansans who did not.
Really?
Well, you are a statistical anomaly in our business.
Thank you for letting me enter your free speech zone today, Mark.
I just wanted to make a comment.
I don't understand why people are not marching in the streets.
The tax penalty that goes into effect January first, twenty fourteen, by law, people who do not have health insurance will have to pay a one percent penalty.
One percent of their income penalty.
That's that's right.
This is this is as approved by Chief Justice John Roberts and the Supreme Court of the United States that if you do not if you don't make arrangements uh for your hernia that meets the approval of the uh state commissar, you now have to uh pay a tax penalty uh when you send off your uh income tax uh payment or whatever it is on April the fifteenth this year.
That will be the first year that's absurd because the tax law does not go into effect until 2014.
So in effect, we're filing taxes April fifteenth for twenty thirteen.
But they're attacking on the one percent.
And then that goes up to two percent in twenty fifteen for twenty fourteen.
That's right.
It's absurd.
And I don't understand why people are not calling their congressional members raising a fit about April fifteenth, they're paying one percent at a minimum.
Right.
If they're uninsured.
And right now there's over forty-eight million Americans that are uninsured.
Right.
And you know, and you know, several of them, it's uh many of those millions of people, it's not uh irrational for them to be uninsured.
They're healthy young people and uh barring the fact that they might, you know, be re-shingling the roof and fall off and plummet thirty feet to the ground.
It's not Irrational for a healthy young person not to prioritize that.
But I think, Chris, one uh one of the reasons why people are not as steamed about this as they should be, is because uh in effect, paying the penalty is going to be the cheapest form of health care in America.
That in fact, for many people, paying a few hundred dollars uh as your penalty for not uh making your health care arrangements with the state approval, uh uh in a world where you can't be denied health care coverage if you do get sick may actually be the rational choice, and that's how people are thinking.
They're waiting to see what happens.
Uh if health care premiums go up, then paying the fine will be the cheapest thing to do.
That's how insane this system is now.
It's not private anymore, it's not a public system, it's not a socialized system like they have in Canada.
It's the worst of all worlds, uniquely Obama's.
Yes, Rush returns uh next week.
He's taking a few days off for the autumnal equinox, uh, but he will be back uh next Wednesday.
Mark Belling in uh on Tuesday.
Uh this guy Alan Brower has uh has now apologized uh for tweeting that he he wants Ted Cruz's speech writers' kids uh to die after initially doubling down and trebling down and quadrupling down uh and uh actually adding comparing uh her political views to a tapeworm slithering out of her rear end.
He's now he's now apparently uh apologized after uh after getting some pushback on it.
But what's what's f what's interesting about this is nobody thinks Obamacare, nobody take take uh the most left-wing European social democracy.
The Scandinavians don't want to do health care like this.
Uh the Canadians don't do health care like this.
Uh n New Zealand doesn't do health care like this.
Uh the it the most left-wing governments you can think of in continental Europe don't do health care like this.
But somehow questioning Obama is enough for people to wish death on your children.
It's a cult.
It's not a it's not even a left-wing political, it's not a social democratic party like in continental Europe.
Rush quoted the King of the Netherlands.
Uh the King of the Netherlands uh gave the speech from the throne the other day, which is the uh monarchical equivalent of the uh State of the Union address, except with a lot less fawning.
Because actually the the thing about a monarchy is when people uh uh when you have a monarchy, people feel free to insult the king.
When you have a pseudo-monarchy like Obama, then Jay-Z and Beyonce are all prostrate before the king because he's the coolest guy ever.
But uh so this is a speech from the phone.
They're the same thing up in uh Ottawa in Canada.
It's basically the government laying out its program.
And King Willem Alexander, Rush quoted him, he said, uh the welfare state of the twentieth century is dead, and in its place uh a participation society is emerging in which people must take responsibility for their own future and create their own social and financial safety net.
So presumably Alan Brouwer would like this guy's kids to die too.
King Willem Alexander of the Netherlands.
So his kids would desire die, and that would be the end of the House of Orange.
Because that's unacceptable too.
Ooh, the welfare state of the twentieth century is gone, and we've got to have a participation society.
This guy th this guy presides over a left-wing nation where where the soldiers have long hair, where it's legalized prostitute.
You walk through Amsterdam and the hookers are sitting in open windows in the legalized prostitution beckoning you in.
It's left-wing liberal state.
Uh his mum, uh Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands.
I spent a delightful day with her once, utterly charming woman, uh, absolutely delightful company and totally left-wing liberal as they come.
Uh but these people, these left-wing continentals are saying the 20th century it's a fact, it's out of money, it's broke.
The welfare state of the 20th century is gone.
Uh what's lies ahead is a participation society in which people have to create their own social and financial safety nets.
They can talk about it in Europe.
But Alan Brouwer, the communications chair of uh the uh some county democratic party says, no, you can't talk about that.
You can't talk about that here.
Don't want to talk about that here.
Uh I want your kids to die.
I'd rather your kids died a horrible lingering death than we actually had an honest discussion On how broke how broke uh the entitlement state.
That's the name we've given in here, because we we dodge the word welfare, so we have this word entitlements, which is actually worse than welfare in some ways.
Uh w we're so where we we'd rather just not talk about it.
And when you were listening to Chris, she was calling from Northwestern Arkansas.
She said she was the only woman in Arkansas who hadn't slept with Bill Clinton.
Actually, if you read that report in the Daily Mail yesterday, she may be the only woman in Arkansas who hasn't slept with Hillary Clinton, too.
That's uh by the way, that's the other thing.
Before I forget, uh while American newspapers are dying and running all these boring uh columns by the so-called moderate president of Iran, the Daily Mail in London has this piece uh saying that uh that the next president of the United States is uh gonna be a bisexual woman, and nobody you know no US newspaper so much as mentions it.
There's nothing interesting in American papers.
The Daily Mail is the m Daily Mail, uh, which is uh a British uh newspaper, Fleet Street used to work for one of its sister papers, is the most read newspaper website in the United States because the only interesting news about America is in the foreign press these days.
Nothing in nothing in the New York Times or the Washington Post.
Anyway, anyway.
Uh uh Chris was talking about uh the two percent Obamacare tax next year.
Do you think it's gonna stay at two percent?
Now that John Roberts has ruled it's constitutional to fine people for not making health care arrangements uh that meet the with the approval of the health care commissar, the central government.
Do you think an ever broken nation is gonna leave that uh health care uh cost at two percent, or do you think it could start creeping up?
Three percent, four percent, five percent.
Whatever is needed to keep this uh keep this show on the road.
Uh the the Norway, Australia just elected a conservative government, by the way.
Great guy, Tony Abbott, Tony Abbott.
I would love it if he if he would suddenly start uh playing gigs in Iowa and making exploratory talks about the uh New Hampshire primary.
Uh I wish we had guys like that here.
Uh Ton Tony out, conservative government just uh elected in Australia.
Conservative government just elected in Norway.
Uh the King of the Netherlands, uh sitting on his speech from the throne.
Uh it's a hell of a throne, by the way.
The guy looks like uh looks like mini-me sitting on the thing.
Um uh t saying that the 20th century welfare state is dead, gone, buried, over, over, over.
Where are Americans talking about that?
Where's American leadership on that?
Uh the Democrats say if you even so much as raise the subject, we'll rain down violent death on your children.
Uh the the so-called pansy Europeans, the semi-socialist squishy Europeans are talking all about the stuff that Nancy Pelosi and this guy Alan Brown and all the rest of it don't want you to talk about.
Let's go to Richard.
Richard is in Cave Creek, Arizona.
Richard, you're live on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Good morning, Mark.
Thank you for taking my call.
I want to also feel thank you for being such a dedicated volunteer in the Army of Reason.
Well, I wish uh I wish there were more folk in the in the Army of Reason.
It's uh it's a little on demand sometimes, Richard, but uh glad to have you with us.
Reinstate the draft.
The comment I wanted to make is not about Obamacare, although I could go on for that forever, but I'm sixty years old, so I've seen a few administrations come and go, and as the old saying about if we don't understand our mistakes from history or history, we are doomed to repeat it.
The thing that a lot of people in the younger generation today don't remember, although there was a very popular movie last year about this situation was that let's suppose for a second that Mitt Romney had been in elected.
Or any other Republican, anybody that's seen as a war hawk.
What would have happened around the world at that point instead of the Apology Tour?
It could have turned out very differently, because a lot of the younger generation today who saw this current movie don't remember that within twenty-four hours of the Ayatollah Homanie learning that Reagan had been elected president, his comment to the world was, we better release the hostages because we don't want this quote wild cowboy coming after us.
And perception of that would have been better than all of the struggles and wars and things that are currently going on, in my opinion.
Yeah, I think I think you're right.
You d you the the message basically of Putin's op-ed uh last week in the New York Times, the Putin column, uh was basically rubbing Obama's face in it.
He understands that Obama is a weakling and he treats him as such.
And and I think that's that's the way the uh Iranians feel with these feints about so called moderation and all the rest of it.
Uh the the the the that uh around the world they feel that we are on the brink of the post American world because there is a guy in the White House who doesn't believe in it.
And he's gone around the world saying he doesn't believe in it.
He's gone around he's gone around the world saying that he do he he's conflicted this is putting an optimistic spin on his message.
But they but that he's basically conflicted about whether American power is a force for good in the world.
And uh in the in in these capital cities it doesn't matter whether you're uh talking about uh Brussels or Moscow.
These guys take him at his word.
They look at what he says and they realize that he is not serious about the projection of American power.
So you end up with a situation where um as I said uh uh in the first hour Putin takes twelve hundred words to kick sand in uh in the in the uh whatever it is the ninety six pound weakling up and down the beach in the New York Times because he figures he might as well what's what's to lose by doing it.
Uh the the that this man is not serious about the projection of American power and as you say Richard that's very different from the way things were thirty years ago.
Yes.
Yep.
And that's uh and that's the world we live in.
That's the world we've uh that's the world we've made.
Thanks for your call uh Richard uh as he as he said there was a movie made about it and it was a great movie.
Uh it was uh actually very well done in all the period details of the nineteen seventies but it missed something and not by accident.
It missed the actual crackle the current of great forces at stake.
It had all the detail right that movie.
It had all the details right all the period details, the music, the clothes, the hairstyles and everything else.
But it actually missed uh the the basic currents that were underpinning that story as it was playing out at the time.
Uh Markstein Farush more straight ahead hey the House has voted to defund Obamacare just hours ago.
Let's go to Dvitin in uh in Washington Dvitin I hope I pronounced that uh correctly was I was I'm not gonna that's good that's good.
Thank you for having me I'm a big fan uh I I'm uh journalist working in DC but I'm originally from uh the Republic of Macedonia former communist country and uh I mean I frankly have to tell you that this is uh unbelievable what I'm seeing here.
I cannot I mean I don't have words to explain how damaging this system was to what was former Yugoslavia or whichever country was stupid enough to try this uh healthcare mandate or uh a government run healthcare system.
I mean, I think the mandate is the worst part of it, because once the government has mandated the citizens to buy a certain product, I mean, it doesn't have to be health care.
If you are forced to spend an X amount of money on coffee in several government-approved chains throughout America, you know, now they have all these offerings, and they're competing between themselves with lower prices and better flavors and quality.
Once, you know, but this is because it's the free market, but once it's a government-run and you're forced to pay this amount of money, you know, the next morning there will be no offers, there will be no differences in the offer, or they will not be competing between themselves in the prices.
So prices go up, and the people who work there, they just don't care.
And, I mean, I've seen this firsthand.
My father was a doctor in former Yugoslavia.
He was a gynecologist, and it was a government-run, there was one government-run insurance company, and which you were forced to give money to a certain amount of your income, and all the hospitals were held by the government.
So half of the doctors just wouldn't care about the quality of work they're giving, or because they would get their money at the end of the month by government mandates, regardless.
And the other half who were still trying to work, who would be in demand, you know, they tried to take out the free market system out of health care, but the free market system turned into a black market.
So, in essence, people who would be sick, they would go, they would speak to each other, they would exchange information on which doctor is a butcher, and which doctor will get the job done well, and they would go and they would give bribes to the doctors.
Like, I remember as a kid, my allowance was when my father would come back from work, and he would bring bottles of whiskey, or he would bring, you know, bags of coffee, which was in huge demand in former Yugoslavia.
And, you know, he would just give it to me and, you know, let me go to the store next door and sell it to them for half price.
Because these were all bribes which were given to him by people who couldn't, who didn't want to go to somebody who crippled them for life, and wanted to go to a good doctor, but they didn't have a friend in the party or a relative who could usher them in quickly to a good doctor, so they would have to bring hard currency or, you know.
And I think if the U.S. introduces government mandate, if it forces people to buy health care, I think the institutions of health care will still be there.
I mean, you will still have the buildings, and the signs will be Blue Cross Blue Shield or Kaiser or whatever.
But what made these institutions tick, what makes them, what makes the people inside work so hard, wake up in the morning and stay up late at night in the research labs and try to get the staff educated and get their job done well, because in the end they get more money out of this, because they make money for themselves.
If you force everybody to buy health insurance, and if you force everybody to go to a government-approved provider insurance company, you know, the building will be there, but the quality of service...
Well, the phrase you're looking for is what Gibbon used to describe it in the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.
The outward, the buildings look the same and everything, but the animating spirit is fled.
The animating spirit is fled.
And that's the thing.
As you said, Tafitin, you'll still have those buildings, and people will still go to work in them, but the animating spirit will be fled.
And we already have that Yugoslav Tito-era nomenclatura that you were talking about there, in the ability of those guys, the guys who are in the know, the guys who can get a hold of Valerie Jarrett in their ability to get an opt-out.
Vitin you know none of this stuff is new it's been tried everywhere it's failed everywhere he's from uh Macedonia which was part of the uh former Yugoslavia and is now an independent country if I remember correctly the European Union uh because they didn't want to offend the Greeks who uh have uh part of Macedonia so they said they'd only recognize the Republic of Macedonia if it called itself something other than Macedonia.
I forget what name they they agreed on the Republic of Twinkies or something.
But at any rate they've got uh they've got some name they won can only join the European Union if they call something other than Macedonia.
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