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July 15, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 15, 2013, Monday, Hour #2
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Man, I tell you folks, this is just I don't know.
Frustrating, maddening.
There seems to be no bottom.
Just keep sinking and sinking.
Keep thinking we're gonna hit the bottom and start bouncing back up.
All the cable networks.
All of the cable networks are waiting with baited breath on Eric Holder.
Eric Holder is going to make remarks.
He's gonna make a speech at the Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, a black sorority in Washington.
They're celebrating their 100th anniversary.
Delta Sigma Theta.
Not to be confused with the Alpha Cow omugas.
This is Delta Sigma Theta.
And Holder's gonna show up.
And so at the hundredth anniversary, and the media is just waiting with Baited Bret because what Holder has to say here is so important.
He might announce the Department of Justice's intentions to go after George Zimmerman.
And he might not.
But he might.
He might say the DOJ's gonna go after Zimmerman with all they've got.
Or he might not.
But they're all waiting with bated breath to cut away from normal programming at a moment's notice.
Apparently what Holder is going to say is so important that he couldn't wait until tomorrow to say it.
Tomorrow he's gonna speak to the NAALCP annual convention in Orlando, which is just I don't know, a stone's throw from Sanford, Florida.
So tomorrow Holder speaks to the NAA LCP in just a moment to Delta Sigma Theta as they celebrate their 100th uh anniversary.
Anyway, folks, greetings, welcome back, Rushland bought 800 two eight two two eight eight two.
Your phone calls are coming up momentarily.
Back to Robert Stacy McCain.
His point at the Miami Dade High School, this school system is that uh Crop High School, if Trayvon Martin had been properly handled when committing crimes as a junior in Haskrul rather than treated as a disciplinary problem.
Either of the incidents.
Yeah, he was he was uh listen, this he stole jewelry in October of twenty eleven, arrested, not arrested, caught at school with stolen jewelry, or marijuana in February of twenty twelve.
He was suspended from school in both cases.
And the point here is Mr. McCain says that either of those incidents could have put Trayvon Martin into the custody of the juvenile justice system, but because the police chief's attempt to reduce the school's crime statistics Trayvon Martin was not properly handled or dealt with, and a number of things result from that.
Is not prosecuted, therefore he was in his mind able to escape.
He was not gonna be held accountable, and it all went to creating an attitude.
So that's uh that that that take is at uh the American spectator.
Then, ladies and gentlemen, Beyonce interrupted her own concert over the weekend, take a moment of silence for Trayvon Martin right after the news broke that Zimmerman was not guilty.
An AP reporter tweeted the following.
Oh, so we can all kill teenagers now.
Just checking.
That would be Christina Silva, a reporter for the administration press.
The New York Giants recently signed to a huge contract extension, Victor Cruz.
He went to Twitter.
He said, I'm thoroughly confused.
But Zimmerman doesn't last a year before the hood catches up to him.
Roddy White, wide receiver of the Atlanta Falcons, tweeted, all them jurors should go home tonight and kill themselves for letting a grown man get away with killing a kid.
Now both Cruz and Roddy White have tweeted apologies.
Victor Cruz's tweet was, my tweet last night was my initial interpretation of the reaction I was reading on Twitter.
I immediately realized my tweet was a mistake, and I apologize.
That's why I deleted it.
I believe conversation, not confrontation, leads to change in progress.
I never have and never will advocate violence under any circumstances, and I pray that we all encourage and educate each other.
The death of Trayvon Martin's an unthinkable tragedy that's any parent's worst nightmare.
As a father, I want my daughter to grow up in a country that uses this tragedy to heal and grow and progress.
My prayers continue to go out to Trayvon Martin's family.
Roddy White also apologized.
Dingy Harry.
This is not over with.
Dingy Harry, the Senate Majority Leader on Sunday, asked for the Department of Justice to prosecute Zimmerman.
I think the Justice Department's going to take a look at this, dingy Harry said on Meet the Depressed.
This isn't over with.
And I think that's good.
That's our system.
It's gotten better, not worse.
Move on.org, the NAALCP also pushing Holder to look into civil rights charges against Zimmerman.
Now, I may be a little confused on this.
Remember the Rodney King case out in LA when the cops were found not guilty by a jury of beating Rodney King.
All kinds of pressure was brought to bear on George H.W. Bush.
And the result was that the Department of Justice went out there and filed civil rights violations charges against the cops.
Now that was understandable because the cops represent an arm of government.
Now, it isn't really double jeopardy if the DOJ does it.
A lot of people are claiming, hey, wait a minute, the guy was acquitted.
He was acquitted in state court.
The feds could take their turn at it, but I'm not sure that civil rights works in this case.
I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to double check this because there's not a Zimmerman's not, he was not a government employee of any kind, so they can't say that the government violated the civil rights of Trayvon Martin.
And you've got the jury's acquittal here.
I mean, look it.
It's a politicized DOJ can do anything they want.
I'm I'm I'm talking about within the realm of genuine legal circumstances.
I don't with a normal administration, a normal set of circumstances, the DOJ doesn't have a case.
But we're not talking about normal here.
We're talking about the Obama administration, which politicizes virtually everything.
And if they want to go for it, they will just make a case.
Don't forget, my opinion here at top of the first hour of the program was that I really don't think that all this is so much about Trayvon Martin personally as it is the left just ticked off they didn't get their way on something.
I mean, they're they're winning everything.
They're getting everything they want in time.
And that has become something that is just expected, it's almost habitual.
Something interrupts them getting what they want.
They're used to being able to claim or demand that a judge or some government official just do it.
Whatever it is that they want.
And they didn't get what they want here.
Now, this this neighborhood where this all happened.
this is one of those instances where I think nobody, hardly anyone, but there may be some, but so few people in the media.
And certainly none of our friends who live in major metropolitan areas have the slightest bit of understanding of the kind of neighborhood in Sanford, Florida, where this event took place.
Everybody wants to make this on the left anyway about race.
And I don't think race had much to do with this, if anything.
And one of the reasons people think it's about race is because of the way NBC doctored that 9-11 tape back in 2020.
I mean, that that is a major, major reason why so many people think this is racial.
In fact, even uh even racist.
Grab them again.
Play sound by 21 first.
This is what the Today Show viewers heard when they were watching the Today Show March 27th of 2012.
NBC aired what they said was a portion of the 911 call of Zimmerman's call to the police dispatcher.
This guy looks like he's up to no good.
He looks black.
That was what everybody watching NBC, and then of course that got played over and over again all week on MSNBC.
And then that got picked up by everybody that Zimmerman said, this guy looks like he's up to no good.
He's he looks black.
Aha.
We've got what we want here.
We've got a white Hispanic portraying and pursuing somebody simply because they're black and they wear a hoodie and so forth.
Well, here's what the phone call to the dispatcher actually sounded like.
This guy looks like he's up to no good or he's on drugs or something.
It's raining, he's a walking around looking about.
Okay.
And this guy, is he white like our Hispanic?
He looks black.
Zimmerman had to be asked what he looked like, what Trayvon Martin looked like.
He had to be asked.
And uh he never volunteered to anybody that Trayvon Martin was black or what he was doing because looked suspicious or anything because he was black.
The dispatcher had to drag that out of Zimmerman.
But the country didn't hear that.
The country heard the other thing.
And it just took on a life of its own.
And many people, particularly low information people just assumed that this is another standard run-of-the-mill every day occurring in America, white versus black racial crime.
The only time racism came up in the trial, by the way, came from Trayvon versus via his uh his friend that witness, Rachel Gintel.
And that was the creepy ass cracker comment.
That was the only time racism even came up in the trial.
The FBI conducted an investigation in 2012 to see whether there was any racism involved.
They found none.
They found no violation of Trayvon civil rights, which is another reason why people are saying if the DOJ goes for this, they're going to have a tough time because the FBI itself, which is the investigative arm of the DOJ, found no racism.
So what instead was going on there?
And this one, I I think all the people that support Obama, particularly the elites, particularly the wealthy donors on Wall Street, Hollywood, no matter where they are, these super rich, even just standard ordinary everyday rich.
They have their preconceived notions of what life is like in this country, and based on the geography of the country, they typecast people who live in these areas.
Like Southern people are racist Hayseeds, they're they're uh pro life hicks, go to church uh with their shotguns in their laps every Sunday, they get there on Saturday night early to get the best parking spaces and all that all of these stereotypes, and they have no clue what life is really like for people.
Most people in this country.
You have here a neighborhood, and it is not a well-to-do upper middle class neighborhood.
Now, people might think it is because it's got a neighborhood watch program.
And you have to have a certain amount of prosperity or success to be able to have one of those.
This is just what people think.
But these are this neighborhood is probably one where the people living there are barely able to afford it.
They are the quintessential paycheck to paycheck people, and they've got their mortgages, and they've got their other expenses, but their home is it.
And they're proud of it and they love it, and they think they've arrived, but they're on the they're just they're they how to they're they're one step up from how to phrase this.
Because I don't want to offend anybody.
It's not, please don't interpret that.
I'm trying to accurately depict what this neighborhood.
These are people that are really proud, they're hardworking, but they're barely able to own a home.
These are these are not people in the subprime mortgage program, these are people that pay their mortgages.
These are people that came up with the down payment.
It's it's it, these lower middle class, and that this is not upper.
It's important to point, these are lower middle class people that are struggling to make a living.
They do do whatever they can to to pay their mortgage.
They they they think that they're living and playing by all the rules.
They're doing everything and they're very proud of the advancement that they've made, but they're living in a country where the economy is just hanging by a thread.
They think the country's hanging by a thread.
The economy's hanging by a thread.
Making that mortgage payment every month is a genuine challenge.
There are stressful aspects to their lives, but this is what the elites don't get.
This is what the wealthy donors of Obama and Obama himself and all the people in the regime.
There are, it's not that there are two Americas, there's a whole bunch of Americas.
And Obama and his donors live in the one-tenth of one percent of America.
Where money is not a problem, money's not even a factor.
You want to do it, you do it.
You want to buy it, you buy it.
And I'll tell you that a lot of people in those circumstances think that most everybody else lives to in that fashion to one extent or another.
Financial problems are just some, they don't have them.
They might have at an earlier stage in their life, and they might remember those days, but where they are now, they've become elitists, they're special.
They they they qualify as a very rare breed, they're they're breathing very rare air.
And they have no more ability to relate to or understand the kind of people in this neighborhood than they can understand conservatives.
And because they are...
They're living in a in a neighborhood where they're paying their mortgages and they've got neighborhood watch, but they are really close to areas that are not well developed.
They're not across a bridge somewhere.
They are next door, next block away from people who don't have what they've got.
What they've got isn't very much.
And as such, there's a lot of crime.
There's a lot of penny anti-crime.
There's a lot of hassle.
There's a lot of threaten, threatening behavior.
They're just.
You know, life every day is a struggle to hold on to what you've got.
And I have to take a break there.
Don't go away.
Okay, back to this gated community.
A gated community of townhomes.
It's not a gated community of mansions or single family houses that are 6,000 and so forth square feet.
Single family townhomes, gated community.
And these people who live there are just trying desperately to hold on to what they've got.
But there are people who live nearby who want what they've got and have made attempts to take what they have.
So they come up with the neighborhood watch organization for their neighborhood.
And the Zimmerman guy ends up because he wants to be a cop.
And I don't think race had anything to do with this.
I think the precarious state of the economy, a bunch of people barely getting by, but by virtue of hard work.
They see people who are trying to take what they've got, not being punished, not even being caught, not even being they're even trying to apprehend them.
So they say we've got to do it ourselves.
We're going to hold on to what we've got.
Then you've got Travon wearing a hoodie, which, I mean, what are people that don't know what?
And let's face it, even Mr. Snerdley has told me what a big deal the hip hop culture is to young African American males, they all want to be part of it.
Who knows what Zimmerman thought?
Other than what he said.
But the idea that race is I think a precarious economy, people hardworking, trying to hold on to what they got, that's the key to this.
Okay, let's go to the phones.
Uh and by the way, but a couple of things.
Mr. Snerdley tells me that everybody calling today is very upset, very angry, and talking about a story in the New York Daily News.
Mother, aunt of Georgia baby slaying suspect, arrested for lying to the police.
We have we have the Zimmerman case in reverse, essentially, right?
Horrifically, but we got Yeah, we got a 17-year-old shooting a one-year-old baby.
Um race involved.
The New York Daily News has a story.
Drive-bys don't care.
The national media doesn't care.
I've got another story here from the Marietta, Georgia Daily Journal.
Who is Joshua Chellu?
And why is he less important to Trayvon Martin?
Who is he?
Here's the story, and this is from July 3rd of this year.
Four South Cobb teenagers, Cobb County, are in custody in connection with the beating death of a 36-year-old Mapleton man on Mapleton Parkway early Sunday morning.
They've been accused in the beating death of Joshua Chelyu, 36.
According to the warrant, the four teenagers are accused of starting a fight with Chelu at a Chevron gas station.
At 1.20 in the morning on Sunday, they repeatedly punched and kicked him.
While attempting to escape, Chelyu backed into the center five-lane highway, was pushed to the ground and knocked unconscious.
They then walked away from Chelyu, leaving him helpless, and he was eventually hit by a car, left him in the middle of a highway.
Now it's a horrible and senseless murder.
And why hasn't it received wider attention?
And the story isn't a Marietta Daily Journal.
Well, this might be why.
And they publish a picture of Joshua Chelly, and he's a red-headed white guy.
And then they publish pictures of the four people that beat him up, killed him.
And they are black.
And so these stories, I mean, I understand everybody's rage.
They just don't get reported.
Black on white crime like this, black on black Crime.
Doesn't get reported.
Like in Chicago and the massive shooting.
It's no big deal.
And folks, you know why.
I mean, I know why you're upset and angry out there, but you know why.
The narrative is this is a slave state, a country.
The nate the narrative is that black people are routinely victimized by white people.
They're either killed or other horrific crimes are committed on them, and nothing ever happens to the victim to the perpetrators.
They always get away with it.
They're always acquitted.
And so it's made to order.
The media has a narrative or a view of what the country is.
And whenever a story comes along that lets them promulgate that narrative, they do it.
The Duke Lacrosse case, classic.
There wasn't one shred of fact in that story as originally reported.
There wasn't one iota of truth.
Didn't matter.
It was what the media and the American left think this country is, and so that's what was reported.
And the Zimmerman Trayvon Martin case, same thing.
It was a it was an opportunity for the media to perpetuate that narrative.
They're always going to ignore things to the contrary.
They're not going to let the narrative be changed.
They're not going to let the and you know this is what interests me about this.
If you can see it in crime like this, why can't people see it in everyday political circumstances?
That remains to me the objective is to somehow, I don't know how to do it, other than keep plugging away at it, is to get people to see that any time an event like this pops up,
it's always political and it's always being pushed by liberals, and you can learn everything you need to know about something, including whether it's true or false, by virtue of who's pushing it.
It's easy, and it works almost every time you apply it.
Because liberalism is what it is.
It's not something we don't understand, it's not something that is inconsistent.
Liberalism is exactly what it is, and liberals are who they are, and they do what they do every time they do whatever it is.
So you I don't care whether it's crime, whether it's global warming, whether it's gun control, if liberals are behind it, there are certain things about it that you can be confident are true.
And I just I know if it more the more people that can learn this, the more people can be made comfortable with looking at the political angle of everything in the media, because the media is liberal, then the veil of secrecy, the mask of camouflage, would be lifted, and they wouldn't be able to get away with it to the extent that they do.
That's what it's gonna take.
But people are nervous, things are everything being political.
They don't like the arguments and the partisanship and so forth remains daunting challenge.
But it's so simple because it's it's just it's it's it's almost axiomatic.
Who liberals are and what they do.
So it my point is this.
Take the Zimmerman Trayvon Martin case.
The moment it's first reported, all you have to know to know what the likely truth is is who's pushing it.
And if CNN, MSNBC, anybody in the big media is pushing this thing, then you know that they're not concerned with the nature of the evidence, that they are trying to advance a political perspective because they want to change the country and empower government so that it can't be it can't be stopped.
Their objective is to limit individual liberty and freedom.
There are so many objectives I could.
But this is the this is the explanation.
All these crimes where black thugs kill or beat up white people who don't get reported, why?
You know it as well as I do.
It doesn't advance liberalism.
Not only does it not advance liberalism, it exposes it for the fraudulent existence that it has.
Okay, to the phones.
We're going to start with Chris in Charleston, South Carolina.
Great to have you on the program.
Hello, sir.
Hey, Rush, thanks for taking my call.
You bet.
I feel that if we are going to have a national discussion about the Travon Martin case, I feel that set race aside, because I don't feel that it's part of it, it is what is going on within the teen young adult culture that would make Travon Martin feel that jumping on someone and beating them up mixed martial arts style is an appropriate reaction rather than just clearly saying,
hey, I'm staying in this neighborhood or using his own cell phone to call the police and say, someone's bothering me.
It's almost teens and young adults are if their default is to become violent.
Yeah, but why would that be?
That's what I want to know.
If we're gonna have a national guy and I'm not allowed to say.
Oh, me either then.
No, I can answer that question for you.
Please do.
Like that, but I can't, because I'm white.
Then I feel like we're we're in a stalemate.
I I under I totally understand.
I'm on board with you.
This is uh uh an effort to set the narrative to advance liberalism, but until even liberals in a position.
No, no, no, it's not your question.
That's not your question, as I understand it.
Your question is why, when this confrontation started, did it start as a fight.
Yeah, it's i i it's it obviously had to start as a fight.
Why is that?
That's what we need to be talking about.
Well, the answer is crystal clear.
But I can't tell you.
Do you think you know the answer to your own question?
Well, I feel there are lots of reasons.
I I feel that it probably starts in the home.
I feel that teen when I was a teenager, if an adult in his thirties and I'm 17.
Let me ask you a question asked me what I was doing, I would have said, Oh, I'm just here, sir, nothing.
When you were a teenager, who were your idols and role models?
When you were teenager, who did you want to meet?
Who'd you want to be like?
Who would you want to grow up with?
Well, gosh, I mean, the pr to be honest, the person I wanted to be most proud of me was my mother.
I mean, maybe I always thought to myself, which if I did this, would this be okay with her?
I mean, okay, we're gonna assume your mother was a virtuous person, then.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
But be outside your family, who did you want who did you want to be seen as?
Who did you want to be like?
Who did you think was cooler than hell and you wanted to grow up and be them?
Gosh, I mean, you know, that's no wrong answer.
I mean, like not a trick.
For me, I thought I might like to grow up to be in the military or I would be, you know, like a fireman.
You know, when I was a teen, a young teen, I was thinking those those things, those sort of people in a in a in it with a position of both authority but also respect.
Can you understand that some people want to grow up and be gangsta thug rappers?
Well, more than ever, yeah.
I think by that.
Okay, can you understand that some people want to grow up and be cops?
Yes.
Can you understand some people want to grow up and be great athletes?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
So our question, why do certain people want to grow up and be thugs?
Right.
What is so attract that's right.
What is so attractive about the thug culture that it has drawn in so many teens and young adults?
Well, there's No, I can give you a partial answer to that.
Well, it seems like it's lauded.
I mean, the president hangs out with Jay-Z.
I mean, maybe that's part of it.
It's sort of not looked down upon.
Well, that's that's a factor.
I mean, there's no there's no doubt that the president lauding and associating with people seen like that is is a factor.
But a lot of kids, when they're teenagers, want to grow up and be professional athletes.
True.
A lot of people's heroes and role models when they're growing up are athletes.
What I find fascinating in American culture today is that a lot of athletes want to be thug gangster rappers.
They want to hang with them, they want to be able to do that.
And on the other hand, the gangster thug rappers, whatever you want to, they want to be athletes.
So we've got two distinct cultures who envy each other now.
And then in the middle, you have someone who could also be admired, like Tim Tebow, who is denigrated in the media.
Because what?
He's too polite.
I guess.
Well, uh, you have one treatment trashed.
That's an excellent point.
Here you've got a kid that a young man that appears to be the epitome of virtue, and he's made fun of, ridiculed, laughed at, and some would say drummed out of the National Football League.
Because of that.
And then on the other hand, you've got people who've got so many kids, they don't even know their names.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Well, no, I don't think this is what he meant, Holder.
No, Holder.
And he said it today.
We need to have more honest conversations about race.
No, he doesn't really mean that.
Because that's what we're doing here.
This is not what he this is not the kind of conversation Holder wants.
But now you've got arguably the number one is Jay-Z considered a gangster rapper, Mr. Snurley.
He's just a rapper.
Okay, but he's taken over or making inroads into professional sports as an agent and so forth.
Biggest thing on the bluff.
These cultures are mixing.
Um, and so forth.
In this case, you think George Zimmerman knows that or thought that he might have been dealing with somebody who wanted to be a rapper or whatever, and what that might mean to him, therefore might pose a threat or be dangerous.
Who knows?
But it's clear that in certain elements of our society, those people have become role models and heroes that other people hope to be like or hope to be.
I'm long here, so I have to take a break.
Sit tight, my friends.
Don't go away.
Okay, Eric Holder.
What is I?
Yeah.
I say I got here grab the uh grab uh yeah, yeah.
Shall we 24 hang on cigar here?
All right.
Um Holder Holder did show up and open his, he made remarks at the Delta Sigma Theta Sorority National Convention.
It's a sorority of of uh African American women, 100-year anniversary.
So Holder shows up, and everybody waited with bated breath, hoping that they would uh hear that the Department of Justice was going to uh put George Zimmerman in jail.
And here's what Holder said.
The Justice Department shares your concern.
I share your concern.
And as we first acknowledged last spring, we have opened an investigation into this matter.
All right, they've opened an investigation, which can mean anything.
And he could be saying this just to keep everybody at bay.
An investigation.
Remember, this is the bunch.
This is the bunch, the Justice Department that tried to criminalize the interrogators at at Guantanamo Bay, who had, under a previous Justice Department, been approved in terms of the way they questioned the prisoners.
Skalitek Muhammad, the 9-11 hijackers.
The way they were questioned had been approved, documented, approved, legal.
This Department of Justice came along and threatened to prosecute them.
American citizens who had successfully gleaned information from the 9-11 hijackers about the operation.
How they did it, how they planned it, everything about it they got.
Eric Holder opens an investigation into those interrogators for the express purpose of putting them in jail.
So he told the babes at the Delta Sigma Theta Sorority National Convention that uh the Justice Department shares your concern.
And uh I share your concern.
And uh we've opened an investigation into this matter.
They opened the investigation last spring.
They haven't done anything new yet.
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