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June 3, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 3, 2013, Monday, Hour #3
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Yes, America's Anchorman is away, and this is your undocumented anchor man sitting in, Mark Stein, living in the shadows and loving it.
Coming to you live from Ice Station EIB in far northern New Hampshire.
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Uh these uh the issues we've been talking about are really all uh about the same issue.
And it's not something that uh Obama was was shy about.
He told us uh uh the just before he the election that we were just a few days from fundamentally transforming the nature of America.
And uh the fundamental transformation is not there yet, but the pillars of it are in place, the pillars of it are in place.
And he's made a bet, by the way, for example that Obamacare is what it is.
Obamacare is what it is, that even if everything were to fall the Republicans' way in twenty fourteen and twenty sixteen, they will not roll it back.
They will not eliminate it.
Uh it will be there.
And so that even if everything and and by the way, that's not a bad way to bet, because if you look at all the things the Republicans have been uh pledging to get rid of, they're the often the things are entirely peripheral.
Like the Department of Federal Department of Energy, the Federal Department of Education, these are things that were uh Carter era creations.
The Republicans have been pledging to get rid of for thirty years and would not uh and they've been unable to do so.
The Federal Department of Education is the teachers union's personal cabinet department.
It has no purpose other than that.
Uh it has nothing to do with teachers, it has nothing to do with schools, it has nothing to do with the deplorably mediocre educational standards of public schools in this country.
Uh it is to do with uh maintaining the Union monopoly of education, and uh and in service of that it is provided with all the other perks of cabinet departments, as I mentioned the other day.
The Secretary of Education in the United States is the only education minister in the Western world who is his own personal uh SEAL team six.
He has his own personal Delta Force.
He has he has a SWAT team that can go around the country and kick in the doors if you like with your student loans or whatever, as they did some poor guy in California that got the wrong door, as is their want.
Uh but it doesn't do but it would be easy to abolish that.
And yet the Republicans for thirty years have been pledging to abolish it and not doing it.
And it's easy to see how it can be a plank in the Republican platform that they're going to abolish Obamacare, and yet it never will be abolished.
It will be there.
It will be it will be there like that plant in a little shop of horrors.
You know, the Obama will go away, and maybe President Joe Biden will be defeated by President uh Rubio, and uh and so the Republicans will take over, but they know uh that uh that when President Biden runs again four years later, that that dark, throbbing monster in the basement will be there even bigger than ever, and there's for them to use.
It's the same with uh you know, the again it's the same with the uh the immigration thing, which is all smoke and mirrors type stuff.
Now we're told, you know, Rubio is a bit upset about the enforcement mechanisms uh for the border.
You don't need uh there's no point to building a border fence anymore.
There's no point to enforcement mechanisms.
Illegal immigration isn't gonna matter once this bill's in place, because legal immigration alone will increase the population of the country by with chain immigration, you know, which means that once you get your green card, then uh the rest of your family back in Venezuela or Colombia or wherever follow.
Uh illegal i uh illegal immigration alone will be increased by about fifty-five million by this bill.
So there's no point building a war.
What do you why why would you waste money building a wall?
There's fifty-five million people from Latin America who'll be able to come and live here uh and vote here, and uh as we discussed in the first hour of the show, they won't even have to pay their back taxes because uh Chuck Schumer is worried that too many of them will be fearful of coming out of the back shadow of of the of the shadows if they have to pay their back taxes.
So they're not applying you when you apply for your 501c4, you're put through the ringer.
You have to disclose the books you read, you have to say which what friends of yours and relatives are planning on running for office.
Uh but if you're why don't you just that's the perfect answer, the RS say, oh, I'm terribly sorry.
I meant to say I'm an undocumented immigrant.
And then they say, oh, well, that's someone else's department.
We're awfully sorry to trouble you.
That's way better than 501c3 or 501c4.
It's 501c, how easy it is.
And that's what the program that the uh the all these millions of uh undocumented Americans coming out of the shadows will be on.
And and uh so you'll have your extra fifty-five million legal immigrants to the country.
Now the Republican Party say, once we do this, enough of those enough of those formerly undocumented Americans will be so grateful they'll vote for the Republican Party.
Do you really think if it if that figure's correct, fifty-five million league new legal immigrants as a result of this?
Do you really think twenty-eight million of them are gonna vote for the small government party?
Obama doesn't.
Chuck Schumer doesn't.
They look on this as part of the pieces they're uh erecting to make this a de facto one party state.
Gosh, you know, Republicans will be such losers by then that maybe they won't put you through the ringer the next time you make a 501c4 application, because you'll be so peripheral, so irrelevant, they'll let you have your little group uh without uh demanding to know what Facebook posts you've made, what blog posts you made.
So they these this is he wasn't kidding when he said that.
He was absolutely serious about it.
You know, I I mentioned on on the show last week that I've I've always been I've always noticed as an immigrant.
Now, by the way, I think this is something foreigners do, how how uniquely fearful Americans are of the tax collector of the revenue agency of the of the IRS.
And it first came to my notice uh in the nineties, there was a lady called Carol Ward, and she was a businesswoman and uh at Colorado Springs, and she had a chain of children's clothing stores, uh and she was being audited by an IRS auditor called Paul Paula Zanowski, and she felt that the auditor was incredibly ignorant of the business and the way the business was run.
And at one point in the meeting she said to her, based on what I can see of your accounting skills, you'd be better off dishing up chicken fried steak on an interstate somewhere in West Texas.
That's all she said.
It's a funny line.
Boy, wouldn't we all love to say that to the IRS uh auditor.
Wouldn't we all love to say that to the government bureaucrat who's getting in between us and our business?
Uh but but unlike most of us, Carol Ward actually said it to IRS auditor Paula Zuzanowski.
Three weeks later three weeks later, the IRS began destroying her life.
Three weeks later, IRS agents went into her three stores, uh, seized the inventory, froze her bank accounts, took the cash, shut down the stores, claimed she owed a third of a million dollars in back taxes.
The IRS even tried to seize the house owned by uh Carol Ward's seventy-four-year-old mother.
Uh they publicly accused her of drug dealing.
Uh they did it all because of all because this one line, based on what I see of your accounting skills, you'd be better off dishing up chicken fried steak on an interstate somewhere in West Texas.
This may be the most expensive joke in American history, uh, except for the Obama stimulus bill, which spent a trillion dollars and left no tracks, which is a pretty expensive joke.
But this may be the second most expensive joke in American history, all because of a one-liner.
Uh she denied she owed any taxes and demanded an audit.
So they audited everything.
They audited her business, her personal taxes, everything.
Seven years worth of returns, and eventually conceded that she didn't owe three hundred and twenty-four thousand eight hundred and eighty-nine dollars.
She just owed three thousand four hundred dollars in additional taxes, or one per cent of what they had claimed she owed.
One percent, three thousand four hundred dollars.
By the way, nobody knows whether that's r correct or not, because there's no correct answer to what taxes you owe in America.
You you know that if you do your taxes, if you go and get get the turbo tax or H and R block software, uh and at the end of it it says you owe this, uh you owe five thousand dollars, you owe ten thousand dollars or whatever.
At the end of it, there's a thing that says uh we're now gonna calculate your risk of audit.
So in other words, even the computerized tax software can't say whether this is an accurate figure.
All they can say is whether it falls within the murky penumbra of what you can get away with, the unspecified high figure and the unspecified low figure, and if you're swimming somewhere in that murky in that murky grey murk, uh you'll be safe from an audit.
That's as close as they can get, because ten different IRS agents would give you ten different answers as to what you owe.
So they determine they owe her three thousand four hundred dollars, which is nothing.
They've spent in they've spent far more than that going through seven years of her return.
She writes she writes them a check for three thousand four hundred dollars, and they refuse to accept it unless she signs a statement promising not to sue the IRS for violating her rights.
And they tell her that the Pope is coming to Denver.
This is 1993, the Pope is coming to Denver, and that if she plays ball, they'll return her merchandise in time for her to sell baptismal gowns for the Pope's visit.
This all went on for years.
She eventually sued.
Uh she won.
A court ordered uh uh gave her th uh third of a million dollars in uh as uh damages for what she'd suffered.
Uh the IRS was still sitting in her merchant uh on all her merchandise and whatever.
Years later, five years later, end of the nineteen nineties, dawn of a new millennium, uh the a federal judge has slammed the IRS for acting with reckless disregard for the law, and they're still appealing.
They're still refusing to recognize they did it.
They've lost in court, but they're refusing to give her her merchandise back, they're refusing to give her her money back because they can.
And you know what's what's uh what's uh sick about this story is that it started with this pathetic, touchy, dweeby little agent, Paula Zhanowski, who got ticked off because Carol Ward got a one liner out of her, got a zinger, and because she's some dope uh from the bureaucracy, she didn't have some zinger to let fly back.
So instead she sicked uh the the attack dogs of government on her.
And uh and uh that's just her, sensitive, dweeby little hack bureaucrat at the end of the chain.
But even after they've lost in federal court, there's no one in the IRS up the chain at the lowest learner level, even before you get to the Douglas Shulman level, there's no one up the chain who's willing to say, look, we did wrong here, we should pay this money, apologize to this woman and get the hell out of this.
They d instead they said no, the institutional solidarity.
We've decided to destroy her life, so we have to stick together until we've destroyed her uh uh her life.
We're like a cruise missile.
Once we've locked on the target, you can't do anything about it.
Where she can try and shake us off, she can turn around and try and trick us, but we're gonna wiggle around and uh and stick with her until we blow up her life.
Now that's just because she made a cheap crack to IRS agent Paula Zosanowski.
But imagine then, if you have an agency that does that over a cheap one liner over a cheap joke, what it could say, what it could do for a politically ambitious administration that it dec that decided it wanted to use the extraordinary and obscene powers that the IRS has and wanted to put them to an explicitly political purpose.
This is absolutely disgraceful.
Uh half of a m half the population of the United States has been put on an enemies list and has been told, keep quiet, keep your head down.
Maybe we'd order we won't audit you.
But that guy across the street, that guy across the street who made the mistake of going to one too many meetings, that guy across the street who made one too many donations, we're going after him.
Learn your lesson.
Keep your head down.
Don't get mixed up.
Keep it to yourself.
That's the government of the United States in the year 2030.
Mark Stein in for Rush, more to come.
Mark Stein in for Rush Limbaugh on the EIB uh network.
You know, it's uh it's a funny thing since uh since I mentioned that the Barack H. Obama Foundation.org had uh had a lot of terrific photos of its big shindig in the terrorist state of Sudan.
Uh a couple of them seem to have uh mysteriously disappeared, including uh the one uh of uh the genocidal war criminal uh Bashir uh uh Omar al Bashir but they do still say that you can donate because the Barack H. Obama Foundation is a fully tax exempt 501 C three charitable organization.
That's right there on the home page.
This is a fascinating this is a fascinating thing.
You know the presidential brother is a is a stock figure in American comedy.
You got your what was he called Billy Carter with the Billy Bear and then you had like Roger Clinton.
No no disrespect to Billy Carter and Roger Clinton, but this is on an entirely different scale.
The President's brother works for a man wanted for genocide and war crimes.
And yet mysteriously it doesn't make the papers.
You can read about it at uh the Daily Caller and also Walled Shubat's uh website.
That's uh Shubat S H O E B A T. But otherwise it's all a big mystery.
Let's go to Kurt in Valley Vista in uh in Arkansas.
Kurt, you're live on not Arkansas, where where are you Kurt?
I've missed uh from Bella Vista.
Oh Bella Vista Okay you've got Valavista.
I think I'd uh we've had deplorable quality clo call screening since we left it to Eric Holder.
I think those uh I think those Department of Justice guys get the cheap bugs you can buy at Radio Shack and they don't always hear the words correctly.
Great to have you with us, Curt.
Thank you.
What's on your mind today?
Well, I've been following all this swirling turmoil around these problems the Obama administration seems to be having on different fronts.
I was born and raised in Chicagoland and grew used to Chicago itself being the city that worked.
It was the name that we often heard from the senior daily and then his son.
And Chicago always functioned.
It worked.
And it worked because of machine politics.
And that was, you know, your job in the bureaucratic army was dependent on your alderman.
And the aldermen, as long as they were in line with the machine, never lost.
And thus your job was secured.
And the alderman, as long as they were in line with the machine, never lost.
the uh rare occasion that uh alderman did change it often meant wholesale change in the bureaucracy but part and parcel was that uh your job was secure because the machine was secure and as I watch uh the the disarray around the Obama administration it occurs to me that he has brought with him Chicago politics he brought uh Valerie Jarrett and Mr. Axelrod and any number of others along who
this is how they learn learned to operate.
Uh the problem they're beginning to see now and uh I believe will uh rear a much larger head as these things proceed is the bureaucratic army uh on which they uh thought that they are dependent and uh thought they controlled answers to no one when Mr Obama administration is gone and it could be the next Republican president all these people are still there.
They owe their job to nobody and that I think is why uh when the IRS uh people go in front of Congress they plead the fifth because this would be unheard of uh if you were asked to be thrown under the bus you want under the bus.
But these pe these bureaucrats in Washington have absolutely no intention of being thrown under the bus.
They are more than happy to provide information when it becomes uh apparent to them that they may be taking a fall be for something that they were asked or implied to do.
And I think it's fascinating that uh the system doesn't work because uh the Democratic uh administration has uh came from an area where they had never met this before.
They've met a uh more potent and uh powerful army.
Yeah, that's that's an interesting that's an interesting point, Cut, that in fact they've concluded that they're there forever and that the president is just uh some here today gone tomorrow figure.
And they may be that you may be right on that.
You may be right on that.
Uh and it is difficult to do uh American City machine style politics in a nation of three hundred million.
That's a different scale of challenge.
But there is nevertheless, I think a link between the bureaucracy and the administration, and we'll explore that when we return on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Great to be with you.
That music sounds that music sounds too mellow, Mike.
I was all I was all fired up there, you know, we're in Banana Republic territory.
That sounds like the kind of music when the uh the IRS agents all do their line dancing in those uh employee motivation videos when they hold the parties that uh they got out there on the internet.
These uh these videos of uh have you seen that?
These videos of uh IRS agents uh line dancing.
Because uh that's what they do when they're not auditing uh Tea Party members.
Uh we got to cover the big news here.
I was uh I was shocked, uh I was shocked by this photograph of on the cover of the new single We Can't Stop of Justin B. Bieber in this very fetching little uh black uh monochini that uh shows off his his uh barely anything over his perky little breasts.
Uh but apparently it turns out it's not just in Bieber, it's uh it's Miley Cyrus.
I can't I can't tell the difference these days.
Anyway, we're dealing with the uh important issue.
We're dealing with the important issues here.
May twenty-first.
Uh the R by the way, speaking of Miley Cyrus type coverage, where's that uh that New York Times story?
Yeah, here we are.
This is how the New York Times covers.
The Department of Justice, the Attorney General, the supposed chief law officer.
If this would if this were still a nation of laws, the Attorney General of the United States is the chief law enforcement officer of the United States, uh the Attorney General.
And uh he's now it's discovered that he's like been uh bugging uh James Rosen's elderly parents.
James Rosen is on Fox News, but he regards him as uh a prime threat of flight risk and all the rest of it, and uh enforcing the 1917 espionage act against this guy and all the rest.
He's done all this stuff no one's done to journalists.
Uh the Bush administration, the the paranoid left over the Bush administration, they were interested in what library books you were reading.
Now it's the IRS that's interested in what library books you were reading.
The Bush administration was tapping your phone line.
Now it's the Department of Justice of the Obama administration tapping the phone lines of journalists.
But the New York Times still manages to put a positive spin on it.
Here's the headline in the New York Times.
Seeking a fresh start, Holder finds a fresh set of troubles.
Who is the headline writer?
I know the New York Times guys don't listen to this show, but if you just happen to be sitting alongside him at the lunch counter today or whatever, and you know it's him, it's you know you know it's Fred or Jim or whoever it is, just give him a nudge and tell him to call in.
The headline writer.
I'd love to know what kind of genius puts that headline on it.
Uh the um the when I when I worked in uh Fleet Street, the most competitive newspaper market in the world, the the lady, the rather plain bluntly spoken lady who was my boss, always used to demand what she called uh four-letter word me headlines.
In other words, F asterisk, asterisk, asterisk me headlines.
Seeking a fresh start, Holder finds a fresh start of fresh set of troubles.
That's the absolute opposite of that.
That is a headline to say, there's nothing to see here, folks, but we're just doing a sympathetic story.
This poor little beleaguered man, this poor little beleaguered, innocent uh attorney general who's on the receiving end of all these mean, racist, bigoted right wing loons saying mean things about him.
Seeking a fresh start, Holder finds a fresh set of troubles.
He didn't find the fresh set of troubles.
It wasn't there when he was, you know, spring cleaning and he was vacuuming the rug, and he lifted up the corner and the fresh set of troubles was w he happened to find it there just under the rug or down it fallen the fresh set of troubles had fallen mysteriously down the back of the sofa.
He is the fresh set of troubles.
He created the fresh set of That's the New York Times.
That's how the New York Times uh does this stuff.
Here's the other difference, by the way, between you the citizen and your rulers.
The IRS, the IRS was asked to provide the answers for forty-one questions by May the twenty-first, uh in relation to this scandal.
Now forty-one questions.
That is far lower than the number of questions that uh the founders of peripheral citizen activist groups, uh, minor Tea Party groups, uh minor groups about uh ensuring ballot integrity, minor groups that supported Israel, uh all kinds of activities.
And actually much less than just donors now, because we've discovering this is going way beyond activists, between guys who want to march around and hold placards and set up meetings and form groups, but just people who give donations to non-approved groups.
Uh, we're now finding out that the IRS uh ha was targeting them too.
Forty-one questions would be nothing.
You can hardly get any kind of correspondence from the IRS that doesn't have at least forty-one questions in.
So they're asked a mere forty-one questions uh by the Senate Finance Committee, and they were supposed to respond by May the twenty-first.
And it is now June the third, and they have still not they did not file for an extension H if they were really if they had a real sense of humor, they would file for an extension.
They did not file for an extension, they just haven't made the May twenty-first deadline, you know.
Like that April 15th deadline.
You know, you you can you can swing by in early May and say, Yeah, no, sorry, I'm still working on it, still working on it.
Uh you have to comply with everything they say.
They don't have to comply with everything.
That's why I always say, uh, ever since uh I had the misfortune to attract whatever it was now, the big fourteen thousand dollar fide from the New York State Bureau of Compliance.
That what this uh what this country needs is actually an alliance of noncompliance, uh where where where you have actually uh people saying, No, we'd like to live as you live.
We like to say, like uh Lois Lerner, well, I didn't do anything wrong, and that's all I'm going to say.
So there's no point asking me anything else.
Uh everyone should everyone should say that.
When the IRS uh say uh this is your deadline, you should say, Well, thanks, but I'll take the same relaxed attitude to it.
You took to the Senate Finance Committee's deadline on uh May the twenty-first, and they only had forty-one questions to answer.
Whereas you want answers to two hundred questions.
At some point, at some point, Americans have to reclaim uh the idea that they are citizens and not subjects, and that which is what all these things come down to.
Let's go to Jack in Havelock, North Carolina.
Uh Jack, you're live on the Rush Limbaugh show.
It's great to have you with us.
Yes, good afternoon, um my pleasure.
The point I was going to try to make is the way Obamacare is so entwined with RS.
Once it's implemented in 2014, I don't know if you've ever had the pleasure of seeing a stomp after everything left the rattlesnakes in there, where things all twisted up and it's the same thing with the IRS and Obamacare.
I mean, they just say twisted off and thus to us.
And that's why people might be popping up for all three by saying we want to go to a flat tax, you want to revamp the IRS.
Because they've got too much invested.
And by two thousand fourteen, being as cynical as I am, you'll have there'll be plenty of Republicans and lobbyists putting their hands in it too to make sure that it stays the way it is.
And like you said, we are citizens, not subject.
And I wish I moved away that we could that we could start separating the two peacefully.
Well, you you've you made a vague when you say it's like a nest of rattlesnakes.
I used to talk about this government in this country like spaghetti, you know.
It's it's all m entangled up and you pull one thread and it just gets twelled up with a bunch of others as you're trying to pull it out.
But you're right, uh it that's not actually a good analogy because it's like poisonous spaghetti, so it is like rattlesnakes.
And you pull one and he's all intertwined with a bunch of others uh up the chain.
And that's unique.
That's unique to this country.
This is the only country in the world.
The great the the great the great uh great aspect of government health care in most socialist systems is is great clarifying moronic simplicity.
Everyone's the same.
You just go along, you go to the hospital, you say, I'm citizen number five seven three four, and they make you lie on the table and they take your hernia out.
And that's uh and that's all it is.
That's it's it's simple.
It's the same for everyone.
This is the only country in the world where the IRS, the tax collection age, and this is worse because of what John Roberts did, God rot him.
Uh because the only way he the only way uh he could he could justify uh the the Obamacare is on the tax a taxing powers of the national government.
Uh we are now permanently embedded with uh uh the the relationship between the tax collection agency and health care.
So in other words, you you think you've made appropriate conditions for your health care, and uh it's up to an IRS agent, the same IRS agents who want to know the books you read, and whether your friends are running for office, and the same IRS agents who give tax breaks uh to Obama family members who are in bed with genocidal murderers,
these are the people who are gonna decide whether they're going to approve you know, the the whole health care, the whole third party sis system is nuts as it is, all this thing where uh you you your doctor prescribes an MRI for your sick kid, and you take your sick kid along for the MRI, uh but but the but the insurer five states away, some twerp bureaucrat has to decide whether he's gonna sign off on that MRI.
Now that's bad enough.
But when, when you then have a system uh where the uh the there's a fourth party loaded onto the third party, and it's actually gonna be the tax collectors of the regime that enforce uh health care compliance, then you are in for the biggest disaster ever seen by man.
And uh this is way bigger than than uh to to go back to what our previous caller was talking about.
Machine politics in Chicago, uh Chicago, the city that worked.
You may not like the dailies, but you do a deal with them and uh they know how to make that deal stick.
I used to have conservative friends who had business interests in Chicago, uh Canadians, in fact, who did business in Chicago, and they said, Well, you know, it's it's uh it's it it just is the way it is.
You go and you talk to the dailies, and they say you need to do this, this, this, and this, and keep a suite, and then it'll happen.
And that was the city that worked.
You cannot make this work for three hundred million people.
So even now we ought to be asking I would bet on this that Obama knows that Obamacare is gonna collapse in a great stew of chaos.
And what you ought to be thinking about is what he's planning for what comes next.
Uh what comes after the stage when Obamacare collapses in bureaucratic chaos?
Mark Stein Infrarush, we'll take more of your calls straight ahead.
Mark Stein in for Rush on America's number one radio show.
Let's go to Mike in Aspen, Colorado.
Mike, you're live on the air.
What's on your mind today?
Hello.
You're live, Mike, you're on the air.
What's what's what's bugging you today?
Um well, I'm just worried about you.
Oh.
Um whenever whenever you're guest hosting on the radio station uh the conversation that you have is always of fear and of uh anxiety and and hate towards your brother.
And I I just worry about it because I think that you spend so much time talking about negative things on the radio, I hope that when you're not on the radio you have some kind of relief from all that because as I I told the call screener, as you sow, so shall you reap.
So if all is horrible things around you, that's all you're gonna experience.
And I don't want you to experience that.
Oh, Mike, that's very thoughtful of you.
But I'm not, I'm a happy guy.
I came to this country because I was a kid, and I watched the Mary Tyler Moore show, and I loved it.
And I thought when I got here it would be like the Mary Tyler Moore show, and maybe I could work up and get my get myself a job on WJM TV.
And I'm I'm a happy, relaxed guy but you know what I'm I'm ne I am negative because there's fifty million people on food stamps Mike are you negative about that?
Uh uh is that is it being fearful to point that out Mike?
Well if I think about fifty million people on food stamps as you know people that are taking from me uh then yeah I'm gonna be upset about it.
No no no no there are fifty million people Mike whose lives who are not fulfilling their potential who are not fulfilling uh the who who are not going to be enjoying the pursuit of happiness because the biggest crime of government welfare is not that it's a waste of money that it but that it's a waste of lives.
Fifty million people on food one sixth of the population on food stamps.
The entire population of Rutherford B. Hayes's America on food stamps Mike you don't find that sad Rutherford B. Hayes would find it sad.
Well well let me ask you something are you a man of faith?
I am certainly a man of faith.
Okay.
Um and have you read the Bible?
I most certainly have I used to teach Bible study in uh in small town New Hampshire.
Okay.
And so in in the Bible where it talks about um the kingdom of heaven and the idea that you cannot take you know your cars, your house or anything with you.
Yeah.
Um do you believe in that?
Yeah I haven't have I I unless you unless you got mixed up I don't believe I've talked about wanting to drive my Chevy Silverado into the kingdom of heaven.
I'd like to drive it faster on American roads.
I wish they didn't have the insanely low speed limits and I wish they didn't have the insane crazy signs clogging up the uh uh clogging up the shoulder so you could take a view of the uh get a view of this beautiful country occasionally but I've never expressed a desire to drive my Chevy Silverado through the eye of a needle and into the kingdom of heaven.
Okay.
Um well the idea of God is that God loves everybody and God has a place for everybody and it doesn't matter our situation in life if if you believe that you are poor then of course you're gonna live an existence of poverty.
But if you believe that you know you have spiritual and you know wealth about what your situation is going to be when it's you know actually that isn't in the Bible Mike now you're just winging it and and putting on smiley face happy talk and you're getting dangerously near by the way to the big difference between Christianity and Islam which is the fatalism of Islam.
But thanks for your call and if you want to call in tomorrow I'll be happy to explore the theological finer points with you but we gotta run now because being mean, fearful hateful right wingers we want to make some money and it's time for an EIB profit center.
Mike snired for uh infraria I thought uh I thought Mike was going to play the Mary Tyler Ball theme after what I what I told Mike from Aspen.
By the way Mike from Aspen sounded like kind of a doubter to me I hope I didn't do that for him.
Mike uh Mike I feel you know I feel sor I feel sorry if you if I've made you that depressed uh but if you send us an email I'll send you a free complimentary copy of my Christmas CD um because uh like all right wing fearful right wing hate mongers feeding on people's fears I have a Christmas C D out there.
So I'll be happy to send you a copy.
I sing uh It's a Marshmallow world on there because that's basically the uh host vessel song for right wing hate moners uh these days so uh so I you sounded kind of down to me.
I'm not down at all I'm like a happy guy.
I'm a happy guy uh and I'm sorry for you if if the truth is making you depressed but if the truth makes you depressed you ought to do something about it.
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