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April 19, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 19, 2013, Friday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 247 Podcast.
Yes, America's Anchorman is away, and this is your undocumented Anchorman sitting in, Mark Stein living in the shadows and loving it.
As you heard him say yesterday, Rush is at a funeral today, but he will be back live on Monday, and that means that on America's most listened to radio show, it's Sinister Foreign Guest Host Friday.
For some reason our pre-scheduled Chechen guest host didn't show up for work this morning, so you got me.
We're coming to you live from Ice Station EIB in Northern New Hampshire, just a stone's throw from the Canadian border.
So if you're a Massachusetts jihadist fleeing the country, do swing by.
You can't miss us.
There's a big sign on the interstate.
Last rush guest host before the border.
On this 238th anniversary of the battles of Lexington and Concord, some of the oldest townships in the Republic are in lockdown as we speak.
Boston, Cambridge, Newton, Waltham.
Schools are shut, the subways and taxis are forbidden to run, and by order of the governor, all citizens are to remain in their homes with doors locked, and to open them to nobody except uniformed officers.
One million Americans are, quote, sheltering in place.
Sheltering in place.
Copley Square in Boston is a ghost town.
In Watertown, armored vehicles rumble down leafy residential streets of nineteenth century clabbered houses.
A strange and deadly week in America is coming to a close.
One suspect is dead, Tamilan Sarnaev.
His brother remains at large and is armed and dangerous.
My son is a true angel.
Their father, Anzor Sarnaev said this morning from Makashkala, capital city of the Republic of Dagestan, one of those uh nickel and dime stands uh in post-Soviet Russia.
Uh and to uh to old school fellows like me, uh that town will always be Petrovsk, named after uh Peter the Great.
But their dad's in Dagastan, uh while his sons scram the stan and are planting bombs in Boston.
Uh my son is a true angel, says Anzor Sarnayev.
Uh Jokar is a second year medical student in the US.
He is such an intelligent boy.
We expected him to come on holidays here.
Something here, by the way, doesn't quite add up.
Uh Jokar and his brother supposedly entered the United States as children with family around 2000-2001-2002.
Uh but right now their dad is in Dagestan.
They so they arrived here in 2001-2002, but they became legal permanent residents in 2007.
And there have been reports that they may be registered voters, although it's not clear if they're uh citizens.
Uh we do know their alumni of Cambridge Ringe and Latin School, which sounds fancy, but it it's a it's a public high school.
Uh not a lot of Latin going on there these days.
Tamilan was on the New England boxing team.
He was, quote, like the most popular kid at school, said his friend, R. D. Morrow of Watertown.
He was a really good looking kid.
He's as American as anybody.
Uh he's as American as anybody.
That's what R. D. Morrow says.
On the other hand, Tamilan Sarayev himself says, quote, I don't have a single American friend.
In 2011, the city of Cambridge awarded his brother Jokar, one of only forty or so scholarships they give out.
Uh as for how he repaid that scholarship, he's the one you see on the uh video footage, uh dropping off his bomb on the sidewalk next to the uh Richard family of Dorchester.
Uh they're smiling happily, enjoying the final few yards of the marathon, hoisting the younger kids up onto the railings.
Uh eight-year-old Martin Richard was killed.
His sister lost a leg, his mother has undergone brain surgery.
Martin Richard uh will never be the most popular kid in high school like Tamilan.
Uh he'll never get a scholarship, never box on the New England team, never be a second year medical student or a second year anything else.
But two Chechen brothers, apparently legal residents of the United States for six years, thought eight-year-old Martin Richard was worth killing.
You you uh recall that on uh Tuesday Salon published uh one of those uh near parodic pieces uh in which the uh the more tortured and self-loathing dweebs of uh of uh the Western world specialise in these days.
Uh the the headline on the piece read Let's hope the Boston Marathon Bomber is a white American.
Uh well, in a way, uh that guy who wrote that stupid column, David Sorota, got his way.
Uh the the uh the killers are Caucasian.
That's to say they're from the Caucasus.
Uh the uh they're from the the bloody hell of the Caucasian wars in what was formerly the Chechen Engush Soviet Socialist Republic, and which has since split up into Ingushitya and Chechnya.
And I mentioned that the uh the dad now lives next door in Dagastan, that's the stand next door.
Uh Chechnya is overwhelmingly Muslim, Dagastan is overwhelmingly Muslim, but please let's not jump to any conclusions.
These boys have been in Massachusetts for a long time.
They could be Chechen Episcopalians, Chechen Congregationalists, let's not be hasty here.
Uh let's not be hasty here in what is uh one of the symbolic jests of this grim scenario.
Uh the car in which uh the guy took it on the lamb the the uh the Massachusetts I'm not sure what kind of car is that, is it a uh Chevy Kamaro or something?
But it's got a coexist bumper sticker on.
The car in which the Chechen bomber fled has a coexist sticker on.
You I don't know whether you've seen those things, they're all over the place.
In fact, I think they're mandatory in Cambridge, aren't they?
They're like the recycling stickers.
You've got to have them on the car.
Uh the coexist bumper sticker is the one that's got uh the Christian cross and the Star of David for the Jews and the Islamic Cress Crescent and uh some little uh LGBT symbol on there, so that the gays and the Jews and the Muslims and everyone can all coexist together in in the great liberal utopia.
That the nice uh Shishi gay couple in Cambridge, Massachusetts can live at number twenty three Elm Street and next door at number twenty five Elm Street, you can have the big bearded Imam with his four child brides, and they all coexist together in the perfect liberal utopia.
That's the car that the Chechen terrorist fled in.
Meanwhile, back in the real world there is an old Russian joke that I pass on just in case you happen to be in a bar in Grozny or Makashkila and you need to break the ice.
Uh stop me if you've heard this one before.
A Chechen, an Ingush and a Dagastani are in a car.
Who's driving?
Answer The cops.
Chechen uh jihadists have a tough reputation and uh and deservedly so.
Uh they were the guys they they there's an awful lot of blood since the since the year these fellows were born, the blood spilled uh in the uh name of the Chechen so-called liberation struggle uh has been vast.
They these were the guys behind the Moscow Theatre Siege and the Beslin Grade School Massacre of 2004.
Um there's a there's there's a picture from the aftermath of that uh atrocity in uh in my book um America Alone.
Uh I I've never forgotten that picture.
The first time I saw saw that picture, it stayed with me.
Uh and it's a photograph taken from above of row upon row upon row of body bags, all lined up in a schoolhouse gym, uh and it's photographed from above, and the body bags look empty.
Um they seem to lie flat on the ground, and it's only when you you peer in closer at the photograph that you realize that that's because the bodies in them uh are too small to fill the lengths of the bag.
They're they're children, row upon row of corpses of dead children, elementary school children, over a hundred and fifty uh dead children, uh many of them shot in the back as they tried to flee, others uh shot in the face by men who look a child in the eye and then pull the trigger, uh and some of them burned alive, just for laughs.
Uh and as the victims of Major Hassan at uh at Fort Hood did, the very last thing that those children heard as they departed this world was the voice of their killer screaming Alahu Akbar, God is great.
Uh Tamilan and Jokar Saraev were children themselves at the time of that massacre, the Beslan massacre.
Uh They were already living in Massachusetts, apparently.
But like their fellow soldiers of Allah thousands of miles east in that Besland schoolhouse.
They looked at that eight-year-old boy, and they saw a target.
So we'll follow all the news from Watertown as the net closes on Joker Saraev.
But it is also the end of the week, and you know what that means.
Live from Ice Station EIB.
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Obviously we will follow the first successful terrorist attack in the United States since nine eleven.
We will keep you up to date on that.
We will also keep you up to date on the gun con the state of the gun control debate, and actually that is not unrelated to what is happening on uh in Massachusetts either, and the immigration debate.
You may have heard uh Senator Rubio uh yesterday talking to Rush, and we'll keep you up to date with the state of play on the immigration uh debate in the United States, because that's not uh unrelated to what happened uh in Massachusetts.
Why are these guys in the country?
You know, you you are Americans.
You are citizens of a sovereign entity called the United States of America.
Um there on the rest of the planet, they're very pleasant a lot of them.
They're Frenchmen, Australians, Fijians, Slovenes, Uzbeks, Tajiks, all very pleasant people.
Uh but they are not Americans.
Uh the French have France to live in, the Slovens have Slovenia to live in, the F the Fijians have Fiji to live in.
And generally speaking, sovereign nations have the right to determine which non-citizens they admit uh within their borders.
And uh until relatively recently, uh it was normal for for sovereign nations to make hard headed decisions as to which people they admitted and whether they were a net benefit to the existing citizenry of the United States.
Uh these guys somehow are legitimate permanent residents of the United States, may even be citizens.
They may even be voters in Massachusetts.
Why?
What benefit is that to the United States of America?
So the events in Massachusetts are not unconnected uh to some of the other debates that have been going on in the United States uh this week, including uh the uh proposals for so-called comprehensive immigration reform.
We'll talk about that and all the rest of the week's news on Open Line Friday straight ahead.
Open Line Friday on the Rush Limbaugh Show, Mark Stein in for Rush, live across America on the EIB network, one-eight hundred-two eight two eight eight two.
Uh we are following breaking developments uh on the streets of Watertown that have been unfolding uh for the last uh basically about the last fourteen hours or so since uh a Massachusetts uh Institute of Technology officer was shot dead uh late uh just before midnight last night.
Uh many of these boys' uh relatives are speaking out.
The sister of the Boston Marathon bombers lives in New Jersey and spoke to the Newark Star Ledger from behind her door.
She said of her brothers, Alina Sarnieva, uh said of her brothers, they were great people.
I never would have expected it.
They're smart.
I don't know what's gotten into them.
Uh their uncle, that's their sister, Alina Zaneva, uh their uncle Ruslan Sani, uh said of his nephews.
Uh he told uh WBZ TV in Boston that the two suspects, Joko and Tamilan, did not deserve to live.
Uh And he apologized to their victims.
They did not they do not deserve to live on this earth.
He said that any notion of Islam being a part in the attacks is fraud.
Quote what I think was behind it being losers, he said.
So Tamilan and Joker, Uncle Ruslan has said that they did this because they're losers.
Okay, that's the sister in New Jersey.
That's the uncle in Boston.
They have an aunt in Etobicoke, Ontario in Canada.
I have an aunt in Etobicoke, Ontario.
I wonder if this I wonder if we've got the same aunt.
Something by Mad.
This is from the Toronto Son, Marit Sarnev.
Aunt of the suspected Boston bombing suspects, Tamilan Sarneev and Jokar Sarnev, spoke to the Toronto son, and she said she doesn't want to believe that her nephews are being labelled terrorists.
This is a huge tragedy for the family, Marit Sarnev 45 said.
My brother's two boys, they are growing up so fast.
Oh, you almost got the sound bite right.
Marit, Aunt Marit, they're blowing up so fast.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
My first reaction, she says, is why the hell would they do this?
The whole world is now making a decision on them just by seeing their pictures and not having anything else.
She says that Joker had a love of math.
And uh and these two boys, all they must have in their heads at this age is love.
So this cannot be true.
Okay, so we've got uh let's let's just run it through.
We got these two boys in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
Uh we've got Aunt uh we've got their sister Alina in uh New Jersey, we've got Uncle Ruslan in Boston, uh we've got Aunt Marit in Itobico, Ontario.
That doesn't seem to be a lot uh uh left of the Sarrev family to still be in Chechnya.
And again, this comes back to this comes back uh to the question before the United States when we start talking about uh comprehensive immigration reform.
It was it was accepted until the nineteen sixties that sovereign nations had the right to determine which non-citizens uh came within their borders.
How can it be?
How can it be uh that uh that ver that virtually every member of this Sarne of this extended Sarneev family, not just these boys, but their uncles and aunts, uh is uh is apparently uh living in Western nations and apparently are regarded as so vital uh to the interests of advanced developed nations uh that Western immigration systems have had no difficulty admitting them to the United States and to Canada,
and no doubt as the day wears on we'll find they've got relatives in Australia, the United Kingdom, who knows where else uh these guys will turn up.
Uh so the so Russia's conversation with Senator Rubio yesterday uh is part of this story too.
Did they game the system?
Uh we don't know.
They uh according to the official reports, they uh arrived in Boston around the turn of the century, and they became legal residents some seven years later in two thousand and seven, and uh they would be eligible just for citizenship now, and there appears to be some confusion as to whether or not they're registered to vote in Massachusetts.
But here's the point, the youngest of the guy they're trying to get right now, the guy they're trying to get, is nineteen years old.
So taking this stuff at face value, he has lived in the United States since he was six years old.
What does he know of Chechnya?
What he he's he's he has no memory of living in Chechnya.
He may have visited there, uh he may have uh been on various training schemes there, he may have visited Dagastan.
But he's essentially the product of Massachusetts and of Boston, of the so-called American melting pot in the year twenty thirteen.
A guy who has been in this country f since the age of six and is so American that he cannot think of anything he wants to do on Patriots Day more than blow up the Boston Marathon.
There are there are there are questions there are questions uh that American citizens need to ask themselves uh about where we're headed with stories like these.
Uh these guys are not untypical.
I can well believe the things the uncle and aunt are saying, because generally uh generally the pattern across the Western world is that often third generation uh Muslim immigrants are far more radical than second and first generation Muslim immigrants.
So we're gonna talk about that in the hours ahead on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
1800-282-2882, Mark Stein Inforush, Immigration, Terrorism, Gun Control, all the week's news.
We're live on Open Line Friday.
Uh lots more still to come here on the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
Yes, Obanline Friday, 1-800-282-2882 Rush uh returns live on Monday.
Uh he is at a funeral and memorial service today.
As we speak, Boston is in lockdown, its streets are deserted, and the net is supposedly closing in the suburbs of Boston in Watertown, around a Chechen jihadist, uh born in Chechnya, uh, but uh uh a guy who has spent he's nineteen years old now, and he has spent most of his life in the United States.
Uh the net is closing on him.
Uh in the meantime, life goes on.
Dana Milbank in the Washington Post is not writing about uh Chechen jihadists or anything like that.
He's writing about the stuff that matters.
He's doing a profile of Ted Cruz, and uh it includes this marvelous sentence, Cruz is forty-two, the same age Joe McCarthy was when he amassed power in the Senate with his allegations of communist infiltration, unquote.
Ted Cruz is the new Joe McCarthy, according to the genius Milbank in the Washington Post.
So at a time when there is a Chechen jihadists on the lamb in a car with a coexist bumper sticker in the streets of Boston, Dana Milbank is writing about the real threats to the Republic.
Now, if you hear listen to Rush on Tuesday, the day after uh the Boston Marathon bombing.
The b this bombing happened uh basically in the final minute of Rush's Monday show, right uh uh at the finish of the marathon, and on Tuesday Rush was talking about it, and here's what he said.
Let me ask you a question, again, based on my observation in recent years.
If you, listening to this program, if you are a Muslim, and it turns out that a Muslim did bomb the Boston Marathon.
How do you feel?
I dare say that if you are a Muslim, you can be pretty certain, you can rest assured, that everybody in the media will circle the wagons and say this is not because of Islam.
This is a lone bad actor, lone wolf, but this in no way says anything about Islam.
It's there's no way says anything about Muslims, it's just a lone nut.
And they will remind us that the vast majority of people denounce this kind of terrorism, the vast majority of Muslims.
So if you're a Muslim and it turns out to be a Muslim bomber, you will be in no way associated with it.
Which fair.
However, folks, if you are a conservative out there today, and it turns out that whoever did this is either real or has an imagined connection to conservatives, everybody in the media will unite to denounce your whole group.
There will not be the same treatment if this turns out to be some crazy extremist domestic everybody thought to be in that guy's group is gonna be tart and feathered as well.
And believe me, that's what they're all hoping for on the left.
They're the ones saying so.
They're the ones indicating that, not me.
Just so that was Rush on Tuesday.
Uh, and as we now know, uh these guys are Muslim.
Uh one of them was Muslim, he's he's dead, he died in the early hours this morning.
The other guy still on the lamb is Muslim, Muslims from Chechnya.
And so as usual, uh any moment now uh we'll hit we'll start to hear, oh well, these are just lone wolves, as Rush said, they're not typical of anything.
None of these guys are ever typical of anything.
Uh Major Hassan at Fort Hood isn't typical of anything except pre post-traumatic stress disorder or whatever the the diversity celebrators said he was suffering from.
Major Hassan at Fort Hood uh isn't typical of anything.
Uh the panty bomber over the skies of Detroit wasn't uh typical of anything.
Uh the Times Square bomber, he's not typical of anything.
Um Mayor Bloomberg famously said, you'll recall uh that it was probably someone who was mad about uh Obama's health care proposals.
Uh the Washington Post suggested that he wanted to blow up Times Square uh because he had uh had fallen behind on his mortgage payments.
So he he it was some kind of uh he was the first subprime jihadist, but none of these guys, none of these n lone wolves, none of these lone wolves stretching as far back as the eye can see are ever typical of anything.
We don't know, we don't know that any of these lone wolves belong to the United Amalgamated Union of Lone Wolves and Isolated Extremists.
They're all just one-offs.
All Jihad is local.
Don't try and see any wider pattern in this.
Whereas if some guy shoots up a grade school, uh, even if he's nothing to do with the NRA and he's nothing to do with the Tea Party, and he's uh not uh the father of uh Sarah Palin's youngest child, he is nevertheless those people are nevertheless responsible.
The entire conservative movement, Sarah Palin, NRA, Tea Party, is always responsible, and that is why we need to gut the Second Amendment.
One guy shoots up a school, that's a reason to tear up uh the second amendment, toss it into the trash can of history, because that guy is emblematic of everything.
Uh but if uh if a couple of uh uh Chechen jihadists decide to blow up the Boston Marathon in service of Allah, pay no attention to that.
They they are just uh lone wolves.
They're just card carrying members of the amalgamated union of lone wolves and isolated extremists.
They are not part of any broader movement whatsoever, so don't worry about it.
Let us go to Jim in Temple, Texas.
Jim, you are live on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Great to have you with us.
Hi, Jim.
Hey, I can't I I can't hear a word, Mike.
Uh is uh is Jim he's uh is is uh is Jim there?
Is I never quite know whether it's the piece of uh wet string uh leading out of Ice Station EIB to connect us up with the uh with the wider world, but or whether Jim has just uh flounced off in a in a great big huff.
Uh but uh but Jim uh Jim is not there.
We'll try and we'll try and get him uh get him back up and uh and and come uh and come back to him.
Uh Tamilan Sanyaev, uh who it was the first, the older brother, and who died in the early hours uh this morning.
He had a playlist devoted to terrorism uh on his uh YouTube account.
And that's again, that's very interesting, by the way.
There's all kinds of people who've had their YouTube accounts shut down on the right.
Because YouTube is sensitive about that stuff.
So if you're if you're like a conservative and uh you belong to certain kind of conservative groups, YouTube will yank the plug on you at the slightest opportunity.
But YouTube apparently has no objection to a playlist devoted uh to terrorism.
Um according according to uh uh uh according to the the things he likes here, he has one video in English entitled The Emergence of Prophecy, the Black Flags from Khorasan.
Khorasan is this kind of Islamic fantasy of a it's uh what what do they call it?
Mahdist.
It's uh it's basically similar to the stuff that um the uh that uh that the Iranians are into with the twelfth Imam and uh and all the rest of it.
Uh it's basically the the kind of Islamic uh i i equivalent of uh it's m it's millenarian cultism, the Khorasan thing.
Um he also maintained uh a separate playlist devoted to Islam, and one devoted to Timor Mutzarayev, uh a uh uh a Chechen singer.
Now again, this is a guy who has been in this is the product, by the way, of the Massachusetts public school system.
Do do you remember John McCain uh in one of the many uh curious things he said that he said uh smart uh visa policies are more important than smart bombs when it comes to winning the war on terror.
And he's got it absolutely backwards because the ones who most hate the West are the ones who have been most exposed to it.
Uh and it happens time and time again.
Osama bin Laden, summer school in Oxford, Mohammed Atter, uh an engineering student from Hamburg, Germany.
The ones who have spent the most time uh in the Western world are the ones who hate it the most.
Not the upcountry Yak herds in Waziristan, uh, but the ones who have spent the most time among us in the Western world.
These brothers are the products of the Massachusetts public school system.
They went to public high schools, uh they went to this thing, what's it called, uh Boston Ring and Latin sch uh school.
It's one of the oldest public schools in the nation.
Uh they uh got the the younger brother got a two thousand five hundred dollars scholarship that the city of Cambridge gives, one of only forty scholarships it gives.
He's supposedly some kind of second year medical student.
These guys have been the beneficiaries of the best that American education can give them, except in one respect, uh nobody taught them to feel American, to be American, to live as American.
And so on Patriots Day, on a beautiful Monday in the city of Boston, two guys who have lived in the United States, uh they have no memory of living in any other country.
Two guys go out and decide to blow up the Boston Marathon in the name of Allah.
Mark Stein in for Rush, lots more straight ahead.
Open line Friday on the Rush Limbaugh Show, one eight hundred two eight two eight eight two.
Uh lots of news out of Boston.
The uh the the spiritual mentor, I think that's the phrase, the spiritual mentor of uh the late uh Boston Marathon bomber Tamilan Sanaev, who was killed uh in a shootout with police.
Actually, I believe he was he was he was killed uh in a road accident, but he he was uh uh rather spectacularly wired, so instead of just being run over, he uh he self he self-detonated.
I understand that's what happened.
And anyway, Tamilan Zyanev, his um his spiritual mentor was uh the radical Muslim preacher, Sheikh Fiz Mohammed.
Now again, uh what I was saying earlier about the guys who most want to kill us, the guys who most want to destroy Western civilization are the ones who are the products of it.
Sheikh Fiz Mohammed was born in Australia, Australian born and bred.
But he wants to overthrow Western civilization.
He was the he was the mentor, he was the spiritual mentor, uh apparently to Tamilan Zanaev.
He's famous, by the way, for denouncing the Harry Potter movies.
Uh he uh he objects to the uh higher Harry Potter movies because they encourage people to commit the sin of worshipping someone or something other than Allah.
So if you raise your children on Harry Potter movies, they may get all into uh in into Harry Potter and Ron Weasley and uh uh and uh Professor Snape and all the rest of it, instead of worshipping Allah.
They may be encouraged to worship Harry instead of worshipping Allah.
So he's he's he's uh he's very against the Harry Potter movies.
He called on a friend of mine, Hert Vilders, the Dutch uh the the Dutch uh politician, uh who uh has been threatened with death and who lives under twenty-four armed guard, he called for Hit Wilders to be beheaded.
Uh I I wrote the introduction.
Uh Hit v wrote a terrific book uh that came out last year in the United States.
I wrote I was uh proud and honored to write the introduction for that.
It's a fascinating story.
But this guy, this Australian Sheikh called for him to be beheaded, and he is apparently the greatest uh philosophical influence on Tamilan Zanaev of Cambridge, Massachusetts.
Uh that is what we know we're filling in blanks in the life of uh in the short life of Tamilan Zanayev.
Uh by the way, I wanted I want to say something.
Any anyone, any uh I'd be interested to hear today from anyone who served in Iraq and particularly in Afghanistan, where a lot of Chechens have gone to Afghanistan and are renowned uh for being far more violent and far more vicious uh than than the local guys.
Uh it's the opposite, by the way, with the Saudis.
The Saudis uh uh are rather sneered at by the Afghan jihadists as being a bunch of pansies.
Uh they're they're the sissy jihadists who just want to sleep in in the morning uh and not actually get up early, wire on the old uh IED and go off and uh blow up a woman's uh s uh health center or uh a bunch of schoolgirls or whatever.
Uh the the Saudis are just a bunch of deadbeats.
But the Chechens in Afghanistan have a reputation uh for for real super sized savagery in Afghanistan.
Uh that they they have that rep uh I was talking earlier about the the Bezlan Schoolhouse massacre, where these guys looked a hundred and fifty grade school children in the eyes and killed them.
Uh there's there's a level of depravity in in the Chechen uh uprisings and in Chechen jihadists uh that is impressive even by the standards of the jihad.
Let's go to Charlie in Indian Valley, Virginia.
Charlie, you're live on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Great to have you with.
Uh greetings, Ice Station EIB.
Thank you for the work you do, even if you're a foreigner, you rascal.
Yeah, the uh media is pointing out the uh never let a crisis go to waste, pointing out that this can revitalize the gun debate.
And I I look at a whole city, million people, hostage in their own homes because that most of them are ill-prepared and disallowed any means of protecting themselves should someone burst into their place or try to take their SUV.
It'd be quite amazing to watch this.
Yeah, you're right.
It's Cambridge, Massachusetts, which is the home of Harvard, and so uh we can take it there are a lot of people there who who think it's uh it's uh just you bunch of rednecks down in the south who need all these guns, and uh they and they're happy to uh to to mortgage uh their security needs to the state.
But you're right.
The fa and the fact is if you're in a house somewhere in any of these uh cities that are in lockdown at the moment, if you're in Boston, if you're in Cambridge, if you're in Newton, if you're in Watertown, and uh and and something happens, something happens.
Who's to know who's even at the local precinct house to come and get you?
All the cops are all over the state.
Uh, you know, the the cops from A are uh cruising down the streets of B because they're all being directed now, all state, federal, local, of all coordinating some uh uh some yeah, you that's a very valid point, and I went through this in two thousand eight with a manhunt right in my um right where I live.
I posted guard for my elderly neighbors uh and uh it was a multi-jurisdictional uh we're near Virginia Tech, and there was a manhunt here, a man shot at a trooper who wounded him, uh, state police, and they were um uh every jurisdiction was involved.
They did a wonderful job, but uh some of us were posted to keep, you know, certain areas uh kind of keep an eye on things.
And uh, you know, without that uh w he could have moved a whole lot more freely and done a lot more damage.
But you've made all the points I wanted to.
It brings up immigration, it brings up a lot of questions, and I'd like to know about people who travel to Muslim countries in two thousand or uh uh back in the eighties when you weren't allowed to travel there under an American passport.
And I think you know what I'm referring to, sir.
Yeah, no, no.
And and well, and I'll tell you this too, in talking about travel.
I mean, one of the differences we all make j all these guys are jokes.
Imagine if this bomb hadn't gone off.
Uh these guys would be jokes.
They'd be regarded as losers, as their uncle called them, just sort of dweeby high school losers.
Uh but the difference is, the difference seems to be here is that these guys went back to their native land or their native lands.
They they had a kind of mobile uh the the family seems to have Been pretty much kept moving.
And they had some kind of training, and that's really the difference from it.
And yet we don't track people.
It was the same with the Times Square Bomber, uh, when people were being all sympathetic to him because uh he'd fallen behind on his mortgage.
Well, one way to fall behind on your mortgage is because you go off to Pakistan uh and you're in some uh jihadist training camp uh and the local madrasa for six months.
Uh that's one way to fall fall behind on your mortgage.
Mark Stein in Farush, lots more straight ahead.
Hey, I blinked and minced the comprehensive immigration reform Senate hearings, which apparently were held in the Senate uh this morning in less time than it takes to hold a Boston jihadist stakeout.
So we have had the Isla the comprehensive immigration reform hearings.
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