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Oct. 22, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 22, 2012, Monday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Reports out of the White House.
Well, no, Camp David.
Obama's at Camp David prepping for the debate tonight.
Word out of the White House is that they're not convinced.
Obama is still undecided on whether or not the attack at Pearl Harbor was just a Japanese training exercise that went wrong.
The jury is still out as far as the Obama campaign's concerned of what happened at Pearl Harbor.
Hi, folks.
By the CBS News and another guy, Bing Westers at Ping East.
Because somebody at National Review Online is saying, you know, shouldn't we have maybe launched Counter-Strike?
Shouldn't we maybe have had U.S. forces in action?
More on that as the program unfolds.
Hi, folks.
Great to have you here.
It is the beginning of a brand new big, busy broadcast week here at the EIB Network, the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Telephone number 800-282-2882 and the email address LRushbo at EIBnet.com.
Right on schedule, right on schedule, and as predicted.
Yesterday, a news flash from the Wall Street Journal.
Guess what?
The election is now tied in the NBC Wall Street Journal poll, the poll that has had Obama up five with Democrat samples of plus nine and plus ten.
Guess what?
The race for the White House is exactly as I predicted and right on schedule.
As we are now two weeks away in this poll, the race is tied.
As the pollsters now start accounting for reality, we're getting close to the election and the pollsters want, of course, their final polls to be as close to the real outcome as possible.
So the days of attempting to shift and move public opinion are now dwindling in place of the polls reflecting public opinion.
There's still a little attempt to manipulate it, though.
The Gallup poll, as of yesterday, Romney back up at seven points, 52-45.
And so today, Reuters is out with a story attacking Gallup.
Yes, indeed, ladies and gentlemen.
Reuters is out attacking Gallup and their methodology.
It's funny to watch this.
So big debate tonight, foreign policy debate, moderated from Jurassic Park by Bob Schieffer of CBS News, foreign policy.
Also tonight, we got Chicago Bears and the Detroit Lions on Monday night football.
And over on Fox, we've got baseball.
We've got the Cardinals and the Giants and a winner-take-all for the World Series to face the Detroit Tigers.
Yeah, there are some people undecided here about what to TiVo and what to watch live.
And it'll be interesting.
We've had debate audiences around 60 million, 60, 65 million.
And we'll see what we get tonight with this final debate on foreign bulletin.
And of course, how about minding my own business yesterday, as I usually do?
In fact, I really don't bother people.
Sitting around minding my own business.
And here comes this news story.
Yeah, that the regime had made a deal with the Iranians to end sanctions in exchange for the Iranians suspending their nukes.
And I looked at that.
Maybe that was Saturday.
I forget the days of the weekend run together.
I looked at that and I said, well, it's now obvious, if it wasn't before, who the Iranians want to be elected.
And in fact, Ahmedinezad has endorsed Obama.
Fidel Castro from his deathbed has endorsed Obama.
And who else?
That's right, Hugo Chavez, Hugo Chavez.
Now, it wasn't that long ago endorsements like this would kill you.
Endorsements like this would embarrass you.
If you're running for president and the leader of a communist regime in Cuba that imprisons people and murders them endorsed you, it'd be death.
An endorsement of Fidel Castro literally would have been death.
Ahmedine Zad, an endorsement from the leading terror sponsor of the world would have meant the end of your kingdom.
You to run around trying to deflect it.
And then, of course, Hugo Chavez.
Today, apparently, I still think it matters.
You just don't see news about it.
I still think that if more people found out that these three dictators, totalitarians, are endorsing Obama.
How ridiculous is that?
Obama's probably proud of it.
Probably privately, probably called Reverend Wright and say, hey, Rev, America's chickens.
Willie Brown, the former Speaker of the California Assembly when I lived in Sacramento and the former mayor of San Francisco, wrote a column over the weekend in which he talked about the black vote.
The black vote got to get it out.
Black president, Democrat starts minus five anyway because of the black vote, but it's going to be overcome.
And so he says that Obama called Reverend Wright in a column this weekend that Obama called Reverend Wright to discuss ways of inspiring and motivating the black vote.
The regime today is denying that Obama called Reverend Wright.
They're calling Willie Brown, well, I'm maybe not calling him a liar, but essentially they are.
They're not using the word.
They're saying that his honor is mistaken on this.
But I know Willie Brown.
I've met Willie Brown a number of times.
Had cocktails with Willie Brown once at Frank Fats, which is the popular political hangout right near the capital, Sacramento.
And I appeared with him on a forum at Michael Milken's Institute a couple of years ago at the Beverly Hilton.
And he's not make stuff up.
He doesn't have to.
Willie Brown, he can be wrong about things, but he doesn't make things up.
And he wrote of this as though it was no big deal, in fact.
It was a throwaway line at the end of a paragraph that did not receive a whole lot of emphasis even the way he wrote it.
But the regime was right there to bat that down.
Obama did not call Reverend Wright.
Everybody knows that they're best buds.
Everybody knows Obama went to his church.
Everybody knows this.
These denials only fool some people.
Now, let's stick with the polling data.
Stay with the polling data.
NBC, I love this.
Here's the way the Wall Street Journal reported it.
And it was after months and months of polling with Democrat samples of plus eight and plus 11.
A late surge in support for Mitt Romney has put him in a dead heat with President Obama just over two weeks ago, according to a new Wall Street Journal NBC News poll released on Sunday among likely voters that candidates are now tied 47 to 47 in a race that appears on track to be one of the closest in U.S. history.
Remember now, this poll, a late surge in support for Romney.
Wait a minute.
This after the second debate where Obama was supposed to have the bounce.
After the second debate where Obama's supposed to have the bounce, they put this story out saying after a late surge in support for Romney.
But there's something fascinating about this poll, ladies.
As you know, Obama is not talking about his second term agenda.
By design and on purpose, he is not talking about it.
And you and I know why.
He's not talking about it because he doesn't dare.
He doesn't dare admit that it's more of the same.
He doesn't dare admit there aren't going to be any fundamental changes.
He doesn't come close to it.
And there's a re folks, he wants to be able, and I look at this is going to sound strange to you, but that's only because you don't know liberals like I know liberals.
If he wins, after the election, if he wins and starts implementing this trail of destruction that he's going to continue on, people are going to say, wait a minute, you never said any of this.
I didn't lie to you.
I didn't lie.
I didn't tell you that I wasn't going to do this.
It's the way they look at it.
They'll look at it as a mandate to continue this if he's elected by not naming a second term agenda.
And he wins, he pretty much can say that his current agenda is being endorsed.
However, there's a problem.
And it's in the same NBC News Wall Street Journal poll.
There's a question in that poll in the internals.
I have it right here.
My formerly nicotine-stained fingers.
If re-elected, do you want President Obama to make major changes?
62% say yes.
62% of the respondents in the poll say that they do not want more of the same.
62% of a poll that has Obama and Romney tied at 47, 62% say they want a change in direction for the country.
If that's true, Obama's toast.
Why would anybody vote for a guy who's not discussing his second-term agenda when they want a change?
Why would you vote for a guy who is if 62% of the American people want a change, you have to assume they're unhappy with what's happening now.
And you also have to assume they're not blaming George Bush for it.
You would have to assume that most people are going to associate the wrong direction with Obama.
So if you're going to answer a poll question, if re-elected, you want Obama to make changes, 62%, yes, why risk it?
Is the guy campaigning on change?
Not anymore.
Not running on hope and change.
All he's running on is that Romney's a reprobate.
And whatever shocking news Gloria Ulrid wants to make up, well, there's supposedly some bombshell she has coming up.
From every indication, it's old news.
It's about a 25-year-old story involving Romney and a woman and an abortion that's been out there before.
Anyway, I think this is major, major.
62% want major changes in the NBC Wall Street Journal poll.
That indicates Romney and Obama tied at 47.
And I'm just using logic.
Why would you vote for the incumbent if you want major change?
Major change.
They said major changes.
That means at best 38% of the people like what's going.
That's at best.
This doesn't count for any don't knows or didn't answer.
Now, there's another poll out there.
And this is the Quinnipiac University CBS News poll in Ohio.
Now, the first thing you need to know about this poll is the sample: Democrat 35, Republican 26, Independent, 34.
That means that in this poll of Ohio, now keep this in mind for the data that follows here.
The Quinnipiac University CBS News poll, the Democrats are plus nine in this sample.
What that means is that the poll sample assumes Democrat turnout two weeks from today, 9% higher than Republican turnout.
Now, in 2008, same poll, same state.
Well, not the poll, the actual turnout, the actual turnout according to exit polling data: 39 Democrat, 31 Republican, 2008.
So there were eight points more Democrats than Republicans.
They've given it nine points, they added a point to it.
Did anybody think that the same structure in terms of turnout is going to happen in 2010?
The midterms, let's look at that.
Same poll, Quinnipiac CBS.
The midterms, 2010, turnout was 36 Democrat, 37 Republican.
With a one-point Republican advantage in Ohio, there was a landslide against the Democrats in Ohio.
Okay, so now you know that the news in this poll is this: President Obama is holding on to a five-point lead over Mitt Romney in Ohio, but that margin has been cut in half since September, according to Quinnipiac CBS.
Obama has a 50 to 45 lead over Romney among likely voters in Ohio, down from 53 to 43 on September 26.
3% undecided.
There's also a gender gap.
But what you have here is a trend.
And that's what's happening everywhere: the trend is what you look at.
We came up with a word last week to describe it, mitt mentum.
I now see that word all over the internet, kind of like gorbesm.
Came up with that and ended up all over the internet.
Mitt mentum.
It's everywhere.
It's in Oregon.
Mitt Mintum is in Pennsylvania.
I'm hearing today that Obama's pulled out of Florida, but that doesn't surprise me.
Florida's been decided along with North Carolina.
No, North Carolina, they're pulling out of North Carolina.
Sorry.
Soon to pull out of Florida.
Florida, North Carolina, Virginia gone.
Colorado in play, according to Rasmus.
You don't believe that?
Colorado, according to Rasmussen, absolutely.
Got it here somewhere.
Colorado's in play, according to Rasmussen.
Oregon.
Oregon, now.
Don't, I'm not saying Obama is going to lose Oregon.
I'm telling you that people are looking at Oregon and saying, hmm, maybe mitum has spread.
There might be.
Oregon might be, could be, don't know.
It's too soon to say, obviously, but it's not an Obama slam dunk yet, according to polling data, according to the trends, which is what you look at.
Okay, got to take a break.
We come back.
I'll tell you about Reuters attacking Gallup.
And there's much more, folks.
We've just barely scratched the surface.
And the NBC Wall Street Journal poll, by the way, the Democrat sample was 32, Republican 26, Independent, 39.
That means that there was an oversampling of Democrats by 6%.
This is in the poll that now has them tied at 47%.
Exactly as I told you was going to happen.
A note from my brother.
It's uncanny how you know this stuff.
No, it's not.
I understand how these people, I know liberals.
You can too.
It isn't that hard.
It really isn't.
It was, it was, there was no way a poll that shows a Democrat sample of 10 or 11 with Obama beating Romney by six or seven points at election.
That's never been accurate.
Common sense.
In addition, Rasmussen, Colorado, New Hampshire, Ohio, Obama leads by one point.
That is Romney trending up.
Obama leads by two in Iowa and Wisconsin, three in Nevada, five in Pennsylvania, seven in Michigan.
Romney leads by three in Virginia and five in Florida, six, North Carolina.
The three states are Virginia, Florida, Ohio.
If Obama wins two of those, this is according to Rasmussen.
Rasmussen says of Ohio, Florida, Virginia, if Obama wins two of them, he's re-elected.
Those are the three.
Right now, Romney, Virginia, and Florida are in his, he's leading.
And don't the Susquehanna polling pulled out of North Carolina, Florida, and Virginia saying it's over there.
It leaves Ohio.
And the real question is, is there a path to victory for Romney if Obama wins Ohio?
That's really the question.
And of course, there is.
And now, ladies and gentlemen, another brief obscene prophet time out.
Sit tight.
We will be back.
Yeah, I had a verbal dyslexia.
I said Susquehanna has pulled out of North Carolina, Virginia, Florida.
That's, of course, Suffolk University.
You knew what I meant.
I mean, this slips of the tongue.
Susquehanna is the polling outfit that shows Romney up five or up four in Pennsylvania.
Welcome back, folks.
Rush Limbaugh meeting and surpassing all audience expectations every day.
Andy Sullivan for Reuters.
The election between Obama and Romney looks like it'll be a knucklebiter unless you go by one of the most respected public opinion polls.
As most surveys show, Obama and Romney locked in a virtual dead heat.
Gallup finds that Romney would win by six points if the election were held today.
Do you ever recall?
I don't.
Maybe you do.
Do you ever recall a news agency questioning another poll?
Do you remember when Obama had an 11-point lead?
Anybody questioning that poll, any other news agency?
We, of course, did.
When NBC News Wall Street Journal had Obama up 10 or whatever it was with these wildly Democrat samples, do you remember Reuters writing a story questioning that result?
I don't.
And you know why?
Because it didn't happen.
ABC has not questioned CBS.
CBS is not questioned NBC.
The Wall Street Journal has not questioned itself.
Reuters hasn't challenged anybody else until today.
But now Reuters is attacking Gallup for showing Romney with a six-point lead.
Now, they repeat the charge that Axelrod and the rest of the Obama campaign have been making against Gallup.
And that charge is that Gallup is not weighting the results enough to account for minorities.
You remember when Gallup first started showing Romney way up, Axelrod got into gear and threatened.
Well, I went to the Department of Justice and we're going to sue these guys or we're going to investigate these guys at Gallup.
This is not right because they're suppressing the black vote.
They're not weighting the minority vote properly.
So Gallup made some adjustments.
After being threatened by Axelrod and having the Department of Justice join a lawsuit against them, Gallup has adjusted its weighting to account for a minority turnout even higher than there was in 2008.
And even after that, they still have Romney up by, what is it, six or seven?
And then Reuters goes on to repeat the Obama campaign complaints about Gallup's likely voters screening questions.
But the head of Gallup, who was talked to about this, no, no, our questions actually favor the Democrats.
So no matter what Gallup does, they just can't win.
But I've not seen this before.
I've not seen one news agency attack another outfit for its poll results.
But Reuters is right in there.
We know where Reuters is.
Let's go to the audio soundbites and let's listen to some NBC Obama campaign workers discussing the latest NBC Wall Street Journal poll.
One of Obama's lead campaign advisors is F. Chuck Todd.
He was on Meet the Press yesterday and the host David Gregory, who is another leading campaign aide for Obama.
And Gregory said, brand new this morning, latest NBC News Wall Street Journal poll on where the race stands.
Let's go right to my colleague and fellow Obama campaign advisor, Chuck Todd.
Chuck, you got the numbers.
And Chuck, this is significant.
Chuck, we're in trouble here, right, buddy?
Look at this.
This is among likely voters, David, 47-47.
Now, not all tide races are equal.
The president sitting at 47, if this were the Sunday before Election Day, there would be a lot of concerns in Chicago.
They want to be at 48 or 49.
Sitting at 47 is a good number for a challenger, not a good number for an incumbent.
When's he been above that?
He still hasn't hit 50 in these polls.
That's the magic number for an incumbent.
Okay.
So after F. Chuck says that 47%'s not a good number for an incumbent, he continued.
Let's go inside the numbers a little bit.
The gender gap among men, Romney, a 10-point lead.
Let's go to women.
This is interesting.
President, an eight-point lead here.
This is actually his smallest lead among women that we've had all year long.
A few other things inside the numbers here, David.
In the Midwest, Romney, a narrow lead, but way inside the margin of error.
And among all the collective battleground states, a little bit of a lead for Mitt Romney.
It's amazing how this happened because none of this was true just last week and the week before that.
And the week before that.
Then last month, none of this was true in the NBC Wall Street Journal poll.
But now, now look at this.
Everything trending Romney.
Isn't it fascinating how that happens as we get closer to the election?
And don't forget, same poll.
F. Chuck didn't tell you this.
If reelected, do you want President Obama to make major changes?
62% say yes.
That's almost the same thing as saying 62% don't want Obama.
62% want major changes.
That is major, folks.
And that's not, I haven't seen this reported anywhere.
I'm not saying it hasn't been.
I just, there's some networks I don't watch anymore, as you know, by design and on purpose.
But you know, it's an interesting question for a pollster to ask anyway.
I mean, how would you conceive of such a question?
You're sitting there, you're in the tank for Obama.
You love Obama.
You think Obama's the greatest thing, sliced bread, Obama, Obama, Obama.
Why would you even think to ask the respondents in your poll if you didn't know that things were trending away from your guy?
Why would you ask?
Do you want some changes in what Obama is doing?
It's not a question born of confidence.
And it is directly attachable to the hard cold reality that Obama is not detailing a second-term agenda.
So you add all this up.
That 62% number is big.
And then you add it with all the other internals.
F. Chuck is worried about gender gap, Romney 10-point lead.
Obama's lead in women smaller than ever.
Romney up everywhere else.
And again, 62% want major changes if Obama's re-elected.
That just doesn't even argue for Obama's reelection.
So that's that.
Here's Scott Rasmussen.
He was on America's newsroom today.
Bill Hemmer on Fox.
And Hemmer said national matchups.
What do you have for us, Scott, between Romney and Obama?
49% for Romney, 47% for Obama.
Very significantly, this is exactly the same as what we showed going into the second debate.
Governor Romney gained a lot of people.
He was ratified in the first debate.
President Obama had a better performance and stopped his slide, but didn't turn things around.
49.47.
I didn't know that.
I thought, I didn't know that Romney had ever led in the Rasmussen.
I thought it was always tied or Obama by one.
But Rasmussen would know it's his poll.
And then Hemmer says, look, you're finding what now in Colorado, Scott.
Well, all through the year, it's been very, very close.
A few weeks ago, President Obama was up by a single point.
But as of this morning, Mitt Romney leading by four in Colorado.
That's the biggest lead we've found for either candidate all year.
And it's driven by the fact that people in Colorado are starting to think that Mitt Romney might be better handling the economy.
I'm sorry.
I just don't believe people are just now, I mean, I'll take it, but I don't believe people are just now figuring that out.
I can't prove it.
Obviously, we have to go with what the polling data says here from Rasmussen, but I think people have figured Obama doesn't know what he's doing in the economy for two years.
I think that's why the 2010 midterms turned out the way they did.
John Harris at Politico.
This guy could be the media campaign director for Obama, John Harris at Politico on the weekend Chris Matthews syndicated show talking about the debates and Harris and Matthews and they said this.
Obama clearly won the second debate, but so far at least we haven't seen the dramatic swing in the polls.
He didn't knock him out.
Obama got knocked out in the first debate.
He didn't knock the other guy out in the second debate.
It was a points thing.
It was a points thing.
Yeah, it was on points.
Obama won the second debate, but we haven't seen that in the polling thing.
Then maybe he didn't win it, you idiot, guys.
Listen to, well, Obama clearly won the second debate, but so far we haven't seen any dramatic swing in the polls.
Maybe he didn't.
In the minds and hearts of real people who watch this thing, maybe he didn't.
Matthews, we didn't knock him out.
Didn't knock him out.
Obama got knocked out in the first.
Well, it was on points.
Oh, we're back to that now.
He won on points.
It's my contention that Obama did not gain a single vote by virtue of his second debate performance.
He might have shored up his base, who wanted to hear some hatred and vitriol and anger.
And by the same token, I don't think Romney lost any votes because of his performance in the second debate.
So these guys can talk about points all they want, but points are not votes.
And these guys even know that.
We'll be back.
I mentioned at the top of the program an interesting report from CBS News today, Cheryl Atkins, actually Saturday morning on, she's the investigator.
She is a lone wolf at CBS News in terms of investigating the regime.
She's got some fascinating stuff on why when Ben Ghanzi was happening, why didn't we retaliate?
And I want to develop that a little bit more, but we're going to grab some phone calls first.
Here is Sonny in Seattle.
It's great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Thank you.
I just called to say thank you.
My husband and I got home yesterday from a 17-day hiking trip in the Himalayas.
We had no access to news, so we missed both the vice president and the second presidential debate.
But we're 24-7 members.
So as soon as we got internet, we downloaded all the programs for the past few weeks.
We listened to your podcast on our cell phone the entire 20-hour flight home from Bhutan.
Now we're all caught up and we're ready for tonight's debate.
And, by the way, what you know has not been corrupted or polluted by the drive-bys in the tank for Obama.
You've got the straight skinny on what happened.
Well, and we knew we could count on that, so that's why we did it that way.
And we would have our, we have a splitter and we were both listening off of one cell phone.
You know, we had our headphones in and you would say something.
We would both bust out laughing.
We're sitting up there on the plane and it's pitch dark and quiet.
Everybody's asleep and we're laughing out loud because of your very, very shrewd commentary.
We just really loved it.
So you were hiking in the Himalayas and you had a 20, did you say 20-hour flight home?
Yes.
Well, if you count all the legs, you know, Bhutan, talk to Tokyo, Tokyo, to Seattle, yeah.
All right, so it wasn't 20 hours nonstop.
Oh, no, no, no, but it was just as bad because, you know, you barely had any time to stretch in between the next leg.
I hope you were flying business or first.
Well, we certainly did.
I met a gentleman many years ago who told me, sonny, if you don't fly first class, your heirs will.
Yeah, I.
I love that.
I absolutely love that.
If you don't fly first class, your heirs.
For those of you real industry means people that would inherit the estate when they pass away.
That means spend it now.
Don't leave it for others.
I love that.
Well, you've made my day here.
I really appreciate it.
What do you listen to the podcast now?
What kind of phone do you have?
Well, I can't say because it's not the I word.
You can say.
Okay.
I have a Samsung Galaxy, and I really love it.
Do you really?
Yeah, we love it.
Yeah, we love it.
How much did they pay you to buy it?
Pardon me?
How much did they pay you to walk out of the store?
But, you know, I'm old now, Rush, and that screen is really big.
I like that big.
I know.
I'm just kidding.
I have all the admiration in the world for Samsung.
I just couldn't resist.
It's all the size of the screen.
The older I get, the bigger the screen needs to be for me.
Well, to each his own.
That's the great thing about the free market.
What you want's available.
That's true.
That's true.
So this, I will tell you, today is my husband's birthday.
This will make his day that I got to talk to you about this.
Well, thank you so much.
That's really, really nice of you.
I appreciate it.
And thank you for the plug for the podcast.
I don't spend enough time talking about all of the internet services that we provide.
But let me just, for a brief moment here, at the end of every program, we have available both from our website and from iTunes podcasts of each day's show.
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So you get the first hour, second hour, third hour.
And they are, of course, without commercials.
We don't sell commercial time of the podcasts.
And they're up and available for download within 30 minutes after the program.
And they are free with a subscription at Rush 24-7.
There is so much value in our website.
And I'm really remiss in not talking.
And now we've gone digital with the Limball Letter.
That's its own app now.
The Limball Letter, which is the most widely read published political newsletter in the country.
That's where I relent and interview people once a month.
That's my job, is to interview somebody for the Limball Letter.
And we've just now gone digital.
I've got an app for that.
And it's free the rest of the year and three prior issues this year to let everybody know about the publication.
So whatever is up there on the app now is free for the remainder of the year and three previous issues.
Limball Letter, the name of the app, and it's at the iTunes App Store, Russell, Tampa, Florida.
Thank you for calling, sir.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hi.
Rush.
Hi, how are you doing today?
Good.
Good, good, good.
Thank you.
I'm looking at these polls and these heavily Democrat-weighted poll samples.
I'm wondering if the media is going to try to use those to tarnish or delegitimize a Romney president.
I think Romney's going to win.
And I'm thinking, you know, with all the accusations of Republican voter suppression, if after a Romney win, the media came in and said, well, you know, the Democrat voter turnout was much lower, obviously.
There isn't.
There isn't any Republican voters.
But the other way around.
I know that.
What I'm saying is, but they would use the polls, but these heavy Democrat samples after the election to come out and say, well, the Democrat turnout was lighter, therefore that is a result of Republican support.
No, I don't think that they tried that with the exit polling in 2004.
But no, I think the reason for these large samples has been to try to secure an Obama victory, not to explain a Romney victory.
It's been purely aggressive on purpose to try to suppress Republican vote.
Not at all.
No, no, no.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Obama has a surge in the Gallup poll.
I wouldn't be surprised.
I wouldn't be.
Look, Axelrod has been pressuring these people from, I don't know how long.
They're the only poll showing Romney way ahead.
If Gallup, say, after tonight's debate, reverses this and Romney's only up one or two the next days or two, you imagine what that'll do to the Romney momentum.
The media will harp all over it.
So keep a sharp eye, folks.
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