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Aug. 27, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 27, 2012, Monday, Hour #2
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I'm going to continue on with this with this theme.
I it it is the degree of coincidence here is just amazing.
And and by the way, folks, I I just checked the model runs.
The 11 a.m. model runs.
I got around to it a little bit late today.
The 11 a.m. model runs are starting now to show a westward tack from New Orleans.
Not all of them, not all of them, but a sizable number are now west of New Orleans.
The National Hurricane Center track does not yet reflect that shift, just as it didn't on Saturday night.
All right.
Well, no, it won't hit Los Angeles because there's uh a lot of that would be good.
Hurricane Isaac pummels LA.
Um, it could hit Texas, though.
If this thing doesn't, if it doesn't turn, if it just look, I don't want to get meteorological on you here, but the there's if if the thing in the way of it that that's keeping it from turning to the north and back to the northeast, if that stays where it is, that I think it's a low pressure area, I'm not sure, but whatever it is, it could steer the thing further west.
We don't know, but I want to go back to the CNN soundbite here.
This is this morning on on starting point, and they're talking to the chairman of Florida Republican Party, Lenny Curry, and they're talking about the convention.
The Republican convention.
And Lenny Curry says, I think the important thing to remind people is about this morning having Mitt Romney as the official nominee so we can get on with spending our money in campaigning.
So he's talking about the meat and potatoes of the convention.
I want you to listen to what Ronald Brownstein and this guy uh O'Brien, so is it Soledad O'Brien?
Some of the the two CNN people here react to him this way.
We're now in a split screen mode.
Our top story is understandably, justifiably, is a hurricane perhaps uh hitting the Gulf.
So this convention already has been affected enormously by the storm and will be the rest of the week.
Test for the president, too.
If it is New Orleans seven years after President Bush failed that test.
A test where we've seen a track record before with much to compare and contrast to.
Yeah, that is Soledad O'Brien named after a prison.
And she's in there to much to compare and much to contrast to.
Now, uh if if it doesn't hit New Orleans, is Obama gonna get credit for that for saving New Orleans.
I remember this.
Years ago, there was a hurricane coming up through the Caribbean, south of Cuba, and it was the forecast was for this thing to take a turn to the north and northeast over the eastern edge of Cuba, right to the Pinardil Rio region, which is where, by the way, the Vuelta of Bajo is, which is, by the way, where the finest cigar tobacco in the world is grown.
And this that's why I was paying attention to this one.
And the hurricane track had it right through the Vuelta Bajo.
It didn't make the turn.
It spared Cuba.
The Cuban government put out a story that Fidel Castro had walked out to the eastern shores of Cuba and stood there with his arms raised and yelled no.
And with the force of his goodness and his personality, kept that hurricane from turning.
Now, if this hurricane, if it spares New Orleans and say hits it, it's a Republican state like Texas or Mississippi.
Will there be as much concern?
I you know there won't be.
So at any rate, and by the way, folks, there uh no, uh don't I don't want anybody the hurricane's going where it's going, and there's nobody that can steer it, and it's I'm not denying that it's looks like it's it's head of your New Orleans.
I'm not that I'm just I'm what I spent the the first hour trying to tell you was how it was being reported in a way that resulted in the Republicans canceling their convention today when it's nowhere near there.
And that there were model runs Saturday night that showed Tampa was not going to be hit at all.
Massive shift of models that was not reflected by the Hurricane Center for twelve hours.
That's all I'm saying.
And now we got the media jazzed like I haven't seen him in a while.
Because now Hurricane Isaac is casting a poll.
How dare the Republicans even do a convention with a hurricane bearing down on the Gulf Coast?
How do they even do that?
How do they have a convention where they celebrate anything when people's property are being destroyed?
So the effort is on with the media here to try to pr pressure the Republicans to canceling the whole thing is what I think is uh latest tracks hit right there, right at New Orleans, and I'm telling you, the models have now shifted a little bit to the left of it.
Not reflected in the official track.
Jeb Bush on Meet the Press Sunday morning, David Gregory talked to him.
So how much do you get your back up?
When you hear this president blame a lot of our economic condition on your brother, his predecessor.
I think it's time for him to move on.
I mean, look, the guy was dealt a difficult hand, no question about it.
But he's had three years, his policies have failed.
And rather than blame others, which uh I know we were taught that that was kind of unbecoming over time, you just can't keep doing that.
Well, that's gonna really make him stop.
So Jeb Bush says Obama, you ought to start stop blaming my brother.
It's been three and a half years, you're on your own, pal.
Why should he stop?
It's working.
He's a nice guy.
Obama's a nice guy.
That's the theme of the Republican convention.
He's a nice guy.
He's just incompetent.
He's a nice guy.
That's that's what the Republicans have told the political the theme of the convention is.
He's a nice guy.
So Gregory then said to Jeb Bush, you've talked about uh you know, wanting for the Republican Party to lead a nation of converts.
That people become Republicans based on ideas based on leadership.
You look at the gender gap right now between the President Governor Romney, it's in the president's favor.
Among Hispanics, you get two-thirds of the Hispanic vote.
Younger viewers are polling on African Americans, zero for Mitt Romney.
Are you concerned the Republican Party not making much progress toward becoming a nation of converts politically, philosophically?
Our demographics are changing, and we have to change not necessarily our core beliefs, but how we the tone of our message and the message and the intensity of it for sure.
I don't think that's going to have an impact in this election, though.
I mean, so there's a gender gap in favor of President Obama among women and a dead heat.
There's obviously going to be a gender gap in favor of for men in favor of Romney.
And this is going to be a close election, but long-term conservative principles, if they're to be successful and implemented, there has to be a concerted effort to reach out to a much broader audience than we do today.
Okay.
Okay.
Now let me take you.
There you have it, Jeb Bush.
Long-term conservative principles, if they're to be successful and implemented, there has to be a concerted effort to reach out to a much broader audience than we do today.
Now, how would you translate that?
Mr. Snerdley has just nailed it.
We need to reach out to the Hispanic vote, and the way we do that is make a deal on immigration.
That's that's what uh that's what Jeb Bush thinks we have to do.
Now, at uh our old buddy Jim Petha Cucas, and by the way, I've never met the guy, I just call him our old buddy.
He may hate me.
Although I've never heard from him.
He's never told me to stop quoting him, so I don't think he hates me.
But I I don't really know.
I just he's my old buddy ideologically.
Um I think I think we're on the same page ideologically.
And he's in Tampa at what was to have been a Republican convention uh today.
And a little post here at American Enterprise Institute website, A.E. Ideas.
He's uh thinker at the think tank AEI.
And the headline here, what a gloomy GOP campaign guru just told me in Tampa.
Wanna hear this?
A new Washington Post ABC News poll has Mitt Romney up by a point over Obama, 47 to 46, and 46 is a truly horrible number for an incumbent.
And that's true.
But it's going to take more than a few narrow polls to change what I sense to be the widespread mood here in Tampa that Romney is narrowly narrowing, narrowly losing.
So Petacucas is in Tampa.
He's talking to Republican establishment guys.
He's picking up on the fact that they are gloomy.
That they think Romney is narrowly losing.
But they say that the race remains winnable.
So here's the next.
So it was with great interest that I listened to the thoughts of a longtime much respected GOP operative, whom I will nickname the gloomy guru.
So a much respected GOP operative.
That's probably a consultant.
I wouldn't know who this is.
Not enough data.
But here's what the gloomy guru said to our old buddy Jim Pethacoukas.
Romney will win North Carolina.
Ohio is iffy in the gloomy guru's view.
The one very smart, very connected Republican thinks that Ohio's lost.
Very connected Ohio Republican establishment.
Republican guy says that the state's lost.
New Mexico is lost.
This is the mood in Tampa, folks.
This is the mood that Petha Cucas has run into talking to establishment Republicans.
Yeah, we're going to win Carolina.
Ohio's lost.
New Mexico's lost.
Colorado looking good.
Pennsylvania, don't kid me.
We're never going to win Pennsylvania.
Anybody who thinks we're going to win Pennsylvania is an idiot.
Pennsylvania is fooled fool's gold.
It's never going to happen.
We're not going to win Pennsylvania.
Don't even think about it.
Wisconsin can happen.
Virginia will be a dogfight and is critical.
And then it concludes with this.
If Romney loses, there will be war in the Republican Party over immigration and how the party is not connecting with Hispanic voters.
Sticking Rubio or some other profile Hispanic on a ticket's not enough.
The gloomy guru was very adamant about it.
So, folks, I just want you to know that the Republican establishment, which is not conservatives, are gloomy.
They are pessimistic.
And to them, it's all going to be our fault if we lose.
That's what they're setting up.
They are setting up, it's going to be the fault of all of us conservatives if they lose, because we will not bend on amnesty for illegals.
That's that's how to translate this.
Republican establishment types in Tampa, depressed, gloomy, are gonna lose.
It's all because of immigration.
And putting Rubio on a ticket, it wouldn't have mattered.
You can't just do symbolic stuff.
We gotta go to the core of it.
We gotta realize that we're not gonna ever win anything as long as we're opposed to amnesty.
That's what it means.
Sadly, these are the guys running the show in uh in Tampa.
Okay, brief timeout, much more straight ahead, folks.
And your phone calls get mixed in when we get back.
By the way, the Washington Post poll that shows Romney up by one point over sample Democrats by nine points.
Just just uh I hear a couple more sound bites, then we go to the phones.
First, Charles Krauthammer from last night on um Fox, America's election headquarters, uh look ahead to the RNC, Brett Baer, said to Dr. Krauthammer, this is a challenge for the RNC will uh RNC to deal with now that the the storm has passed Tampa.
But to deal with the potential of a category one or two hitting the Gulf Coast.
And so this is the advice Dr. Krauthammer offered the Republicans.
When you get to Tuesday and Wednesday, if there is a catastrophe somewhere on the southern coast on the the Gulf of Mexico, then what's the tone of the convention?
It's got to change completely.
It has to be kind of solemn, it has to be more we're in this together, more inspirational.
So you really have to shift the emphasis of the speeches and the introduction of Romney.
That's the whole point was introducing Romney, but now you have to think of it in larger terms and a lot softer terms.
Okay, so uh brain trust suggesting that and this hurricane's gonna hit somewhere in the Gulf, be it Texas or Alabama, Louisiana, it's gonna hit somewhere in the Gulf, and so the brain trust thing that means we got totally redo the convention now.
We gotta show uh sensitivity and a little inspiration here.
Um, and uh we we uh gotta be softer.
And here Bill Crystal from the weekly standards on Fox News Sunday during the round table.
Chris Wallace, the host, said uh Romney's got a bigger challenge now.
What is that?
It's such a temptation.
I know this so well in the Romney camp.
They're hitting us, we've got to hit them back.
It's gonna be very hard.
They need to be disciplined and say the American public does not know Mitt Romney as well as they know Barack Obama.
What is the positive agenda going forward?
If this convention, if this week is about the next four years, not about the last four years, I think Romney wins.
But the temptation is so great to say, hey, look at this thing they did two years ago.
That was terrible.
They've got to make it about the future.
Right.
So what he's basically saying is don't make the convention about bashing Obama.
Don't do that.
There's gonna be too many people tuning in have uh uh have been paying attention yet, and they don't want to see the Republicans bashing Obama.
That ain't gonna work.
Don't do it.
By the way, here's Obama himself on Saturday during an interview with the AP.
I can't speak to Governor Romney's motivations.
What I can say is that uh he has signed up for positions, extreme positions that are very consistent with the positions that uh a number of House Republicans have taken.
Right.
So Romney's extreme.
Yeah, we can say that.
Obama can say whatever he wants, because we know Obama.
He's ex Romney's extreme, he killed a guy's wife, but the same rules that we apply to ourselves, we are not going to require that the Democrats play by.
We're gonna be softer in tone, melancholy, nice, inspirational, uh soft.
Uh we're gonna be critical.
Obama's a nice guy, just incompetent.
Obama's out there, yeah.
Romney killed a guy's wife, he's extreme.
Uh, and and you give Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz out there saying he's extreme.
I told you at the top of this program you were not going to like what you were gonna hear here.
All right, let's go to the phones.
We're gonna start in Akron, Ohio.
Lisa, I'm glad you waited.
Great to have you on the program.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
I'm not happy with anything you said today so far.
I almost drove off the road um at the start of the program, and I started pushing the buttons on my telephone to get through.
I don't know who this Republican Party is anymore that I am supposed to be a part of and to be reprised to be represented by.
I look at the RNC and I look at what Mitt Romney and what is being articulated, that Mr. Obama is a nice guy.
Well, I want to see 2016 this weekend, Rush.
And Vanesh D'Souza has given the Republican Party and America a gift of total exposure of Barack Obama.
Exactly who he is, who he wants, and what he wants for our country and the world.
And I am so I'm sorry I cut you off.
I'm so angry that this is out there, and the Republicans are not using it for inspiration and information.
They're scared by it.
They're scared, they really I I'm gonna tell you what I've always told you, and I guess it's still true, Lisa, that the Republican brain trust, the consultants have told everybody else in the party that the moderates, the independents, do not like partisanship.
They don't like criticism.
So you know, mentioning Obama's record, that may be criticizing Obama.
We can't do that.
We can do it in the context he doesn't know what he's doing, he's incompetent, but you're right.
Um a lot of people saw 2016 this weekend.
And it does.
It perfectly lays out who the guy is.
It's a blueprint for defeating him.
Rush, do you really believe that the moderates aren't capable of balancing truth against fiction?
And do we really believe that they are not able to make a No, I don't believe any of that.
A previous caller asked me, there it's a nick of time, the end of time, if uh if I believe that moderates looked at the world the way the Republican consultants say they do.
I do not.
I think it's a I think it's a trick.
I uh I think it's been a trick the Democrats have used for decades.
And I'm stunned that our side keeps falling for it.
The trick is these independents don't like criticism.
They don't like raised voices, they don't like partisanship, it makes them nervous.
And whenever the Republicans get critical of President Obama, these independents they just run right to the Democrats and vote for it.
I don't believe that for a minute.
If it were the case, we wouldn't have had the 2010 midterms turn out the way they did.
The independents ran away from Obama in droves.
This is a I don't know what it's a trick that the Democrats and the media have been running, and our consultants buy it.
But folks, there's something else going on here as as well, and it's this, and you know it as well as I do.
You just may need to be reminded of it.
Somewhere in the Republican establishment, there are a lot of people who are totally wish I could use a colloquial term to describe them here.
They are just absorbed in immigration.
They just want amnesty.
It's the only thing that matters to them.
They think that that's the road to riches.
They think it's the road to dominance, they think it's the road to wiping out the Democrat Party, they think it's the road to whatever they think they want to happen.
Amnesty is the way to get there.
They're just absorbed in that.
Singularly focused on it.
And Jim Pathacouk is running into his gloomy guru.
The gloomy guru let the cat out of the bag.
It's all about immigration.
Jeb Bush thinks all about immigration.
And plus this notion that that the independents and the moderates, they're not now the reason, and I'm blue in the face saying this.
Apparently the independents think it's fine when the president accuses Mitt Romney of killing a guy's wife.
That somehow doesn't make him nervous.
Uh Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz and all of her incendiary stupidity.
That doesn't make the independents nervous.
Not one thing the Democrats do makes them nervous.
None of their partisanship makes independence nervous.
We never hear, do we?
We never hear from anybody.
You Democrats, you better watch your mouths.
You better watch your tone.
You're gonna send these independents running right to the Republicans.
We only hear it's the Republicans have to clam up.
It's the Republicans have to shut up.
It's the Republicans have to put shackles on themselves.
Otherwise, the independents and moderates are gonna run right back to Democrats.
I myself never bought it.
I think it's a trick.
Uh but the Republican consultancy as a community or as a group buys it.
And that's what they tell all their candidates that hire them.
And that's how we get.
How else do you think we're gonna get?
Oh, he's a nice guy, just incompetent.
As a convention theme.
How do you even think of somebody's a nice guy who runs an ad claiming that you killed a guy's wife?
How do you even think of somebody's a nice guy?
Well, Russia really doesn't think he's a nice guy.
He thinks that's what he has to say.
Right.
Why does he have why does he think he has to say that?
Because these consultants or whoever have been telling us for years and years that.
And now look, Republicans have to moderate their tone because of the hurricane.
Republic, you think if this hurricane hits Texas, the drive-by's are going to spend a day covering it.
I'll guarantee you they're not.
If this hurricane misses New Orleans, they're not going to spend much time talking about it.
New Orleans is the key.
Maybe if they can show uh flooding or ramshackle destruction.
Places that you would think Democrats live, then maybe they'll spend some time on it.
But New Orleans is the key for him, because that's Katrina, because everything is politicized.
But what what evidence do we have that Obama's a nice guy anyway?
Where does that where does that come from?
Well, I know where I know where it comes.
It comes from this idea that we can't be critical of him.
And of course, there's the racial factor too, that the Republican consultants hamstring themselves.
Well, we can't be critical of him anyway, because he's black.
If we just can't do that, then they're gonna call us racists, and so forth and so on.
So we allow ourselves to be shackled.
We do it to ourselves by believing this.
But to answer the woman's question, no, I don't think independents are that fickle.
Now, moderates are different groups.
Moderates are just liberals that don't have the gust to say so.
Independents are not the same bunch of people.
Steve in Memphis, I'm glad you waited.
You're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Ross, it's truly a great honor, and thank you for being a voice for the heart and soul of America.
Thank you, sir, very much.
Rosh, I'll tell you, I drive a truck coast to coast, and uh it's not Hurricane Isaac that we're all worried about.
It's Hurricane Obama.
Uh I've got a beach house in Asia.
I'm from Asian City, Maryland.
You live on the beach.
We've been supposed to see some hurricanes.
The hurricane blows over, we clean clean some things up, straighten up, life back to usual.
After Hurricane Obama, it's not just clean it up, life goes on as usual.
Hurricane Obama, if you put Hurricane Obama up to a radar plot for Hurricane Isaac, Hurricane Obama dwarfs it ten times full.
The storm surge alone is going to wipe us out.
It's just something we're all fearful of.
See, do you and I, we're on the same page about that.
I think it's a good analogy, too.
Hurricane Obama, you don't rebuild from it.
Uh but see, here here's here's the the thing about thing about that is um the Republican leadership, I'm convinced, uh especially reading the gloomy guru from our old buddy Jim Pethacucas, who talked at a gloomy guru in Tampa.
I think the Republican establishment does not see this election the way you and I do.
This is not, as far as they're concerned, a defining moment for the country.
And Obama's presidency is not a defining moment for the future of the country.
He's just the latest Democrat to be elected.
This is just another election cycle.
And usually incumbents win.
It's very difficult to unseat incumbents.
You know I have to laugh these people too, these these establishment types.
I'm not and I'm I'm not this comment's not aimed at Romney.
You remember all during the primaries, the establishment types told us the reason.
You remember Mr. Sturdy, see if your political memories up to snuff today.
What was the reason the establishment told us that Romney was the only real chance we had the only guy who could get elected.
Forget how.
They told us Romney's the only Newt can't get elected.
By the way, the Republican establishment had no problems telling us what a mean SOB Newt is.
And there was none of this, well, you know, Santorum's a nice guy, he's just incompetent.
I mean, Romney clearly has the ability, or is super back, they clearly have the ability to run out and be critical of their opponents.
But but Mitt is saying, he said it to politico, and others say, no, it's not who I am.
I am who I am, and I don't do that.
I'm not.
If people looking for me to go out, roll up the sleeves, start beating people up, that's not who I am.
Tell Newt that.
Tell tell Santorum that.
Tell tell Rick Perry that.
But these establishment guys, they told us Myths Romney's the only guy that can win.
But now the establishment guys, I am convinced, are positioning themselves for 2016.
That's what I think this all.
When I hear them say, eh, Ohio, yeah.
I think we can win all.
We're leading in Ohio right now.
The Washington Post ABC poll is out.
And it's got it's got Romney up by a point, but it's the first time Romney's been up in that poll.
On Good Morning America, they didn't even give the numbers of this poll for the first hour of their show.
They're trying to de-emphasize it.
The incumbent president is at 46.
I don't care where Romney is.
An incumbent presidency under 50 in any poll is a bad sign, and it's a warning.
And the gloomy guru, whoever he is, probably an Ohio consultant, is running around telling people, eh, no chance in Pennsylvania, no chance in Ohio.
That's lost.
Yeah, we're gonna win North Carolina.
Virginia, maybe.
I think these guys have already figured we're gonna lose, and and they're positioning themselves for 2016.
Because this is this is not a defining moment.
This is just the next election in the cycle.
And they're hellbent on immigration.
These establishment guys, whoever they are, they're hellbent on it.
They have a singular focus on that that arouses my curiosity.
I gotta take a brief time out, an obscene profit timeout, we call them, and we coming back with much more.
Don't go away, folks.
Okay.
I hear my formerly nicotine stained fingers.
What?
No, I'm not thinking about going to Tampa.
No, no, no, no.
I'm snurely asking if I'm thinking about going to Tampa.
I uh not going to Tampa.
I'm still too famous to uh go to Tampa.
I don't know.
I I don't think that there who knows if there's gonna be uh convention tomorrow.
If the hurricane, I have a check to track one thing, and one thing when these tracks pass you, you lose a little wind.
Let me see now, when's it supposed to hit?
Um, not gonna hit it.
It'll be Tuesday there will happen.
Uh 7-8.
Well, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
7 p.m.
7 uh uh uh yeah, Tuesday's good, Tuesday's good.
7 a.m. is when New Orleans gets taken out.
Uh just kidding.
I'm just 7 a.m.
Wednesday.
Just kidding.
Um also uh I people emailing me, Rush, I've read that political piece.
I don't see anywhere in there where Romney has said that the theme of the convention is that Obama's a nice guy, but a failed president.
I don't I don't see that in there.
Um it it doesn't specifically say that.
There's a method to my madness here, just stick with me on this.
Uh right here, the UK telegraph, is it?
The UK uh.
Yeah, UK telegraph.
You got a picture here of Bob Dole.
Right there.
See that Bob Dole.
Bob Dole's now 89 years old.
And still eats steak, so he's a good guy.
If you're 89, you're still eating steak, you're cool.
However, the headline of the story, Bob Dole urges Romney to confront Republican Party right wing.
Mr. Dole, a former Kansas senator, defeated, defeated, defeated by Bill Clinton 16 years ago, said the Republican Party should follow his example Of mainstream republicanism and become more appealing to ethnic minorities and young people to secure its future.
In an interview with the Daily Telegraph, Bob Dole said, We gotta be open.
We can't be a single issue party or a single philosophy party.
There's a big split in our party.
There's this undercurrent of rigid conservatism where you don't dare not toe the line.
Now I would simply ask Senator Dole, did you win or did you lose with your mainstream attack?
Did you even get close?
I would ask Senator Dole, can you show me in the past where your approach won?
This is the thing that bamboozles us all.
These guys who the who are the architects of defeat tell us we have to be more like them.
And yet you go back and you find landslide Republican victories, either the House takeover in 94, or Reagan in 80 and 84, what do you find?
Conservatism.
Proud, unafraid, unembarrassed.
Conservatism.
Now, mainstream may work for Viagra, but I don't think it's going to win the White House.
But you see, God bless him.
The problem is this conservative wing of the party.
And it's us who are single issue, single-minded, rigid, demanding everybody tow our line.
And who is it that's on the news every day telling us that we need to change who we are and become more rigid and like the I I marvel at this.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Very happy to talk to you, Rush.
Yeah, same deal.
All we're asked, would somebody on our side please confront the left wing of the Democrat Party and leave us alone.
You you people in the Republican Party, would you realize it it's not people like me who are your problem?
It's people like Barack Obama who are your problem, and Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz.
Somebody on our side's got to go attack the left wing of the Republican Party.
They're not nice people.
Sorry about that.
What were you going to say there, Art?
Well, I agree with you.
I absolutely agree with you.
Well, great.
Thanks for the call.
I'm one of those political consultants who like to bash all the time, but uh but let's uh let's get this on a lighter note.
I want to tell you Neil Armstrong's story.
Okay.
Um I've got a uh an autograph newspaper that says, you know, man reaches the moon today, and it's signed by Neil Armstrong.
I want to tell you I got it.
Uh Neil Armstrong, after he went to the moon, he did travel a little bit and did some publicity.
He actually spoke at a Chamber of Commerce dinner in Fort Myers, and my mom went to that dinner, and she saved those newspapers and she got one of those signs from uh for each one of my uh brothers and sisters.
But in his speech, what impressed me was, and I want to confirm what you had said earlier, in his uh speech to the crowd, he described the fact of what it was like to go to the moon, and what he said was given everything, and my mom was telling me about this, and she was just riveted by this.
She said, given, he said, given everything that could go wrong, they did not expect to return from that trip.
They did not believe everything that could go wrong that they were gonna make it back.
And so then when it came time for questions, somebody asked him, you know, then why did you go on the mission?
Remember, he was a military man, and he said he considered it a sacrifice for his country.
And that's just rivets to me.
I think about it all the time.
Yeah, I want to explore, I would explore that a little bit.
I um, because you're right.
They didn't think all those systems were gonna work, even though they had tested them hundreds of times.
Like I said, the the the margin of error was was was minuscule.
But that rocket firing to get that uh lunar module off the lunar surface, that that was if that didn't fire, then they were there forever.
Uh take a break.
We'll be back and continue.
Thanks, Art, very much.
A great story.
Don't go away from No Romney didn't say it himself, but it is said in the political article: nice guy, incompetent, blah, blah, blah.
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