Rush Limbaugh Program - July 25, 2012, Wednesday, Hour #3 Aired: 2012-07-25 Duration: 31:41 === Republicans' Voting Enthusiasm Exposed (06:41) === [00:00:00] Welcome back, folks. [00:00:01] Great to have you here, Rush Limbaugh and the Excellence in Broadcasting Network, the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies. [00:00:10] Telephone number if you want to be on the program 800-282-2882, the email address, lrushboedibnet.com. [00:00:19] Gallup has just released the following. [00:00:21] Democrat voting enthusiasm down sharply from 2004 and 2008. [00:00:29] So, and I have a details here in just a second. [00:00:32] It just, it further exposes the NBC Wall Street Journal poll as a corrupt, bogus piece of work. [00:00:42] Republicans are more enthusiastic than in 2008. [00:00:46] Democrats are significantly less likely now to vote. [00:00:56] Less likely than they were in the summers of 2004 and 2008 to say they're more enthusiastic about voting than usual. [00:01:03] Republicans more enthusiastic now than in 2008, the same as they were in 2004. [00:01:09] The point is, Obama's attempted voter suppression is not working. [00:01:16] This is from the Gallup USA Today poll that came out yesterday. [00:01:19] Gallup is just now getting around to putting out this aspect of the results today. [00:01:25] And the results are based on the July 19th or 22nd USA Today Gallup poll, and they suggest a shift in Republican and Democrat orientation to voting in the upcoming presidential election compared with the last two, with Republicans expressing more voting enthusiasm. [00:01:43] Currently, 51 to 39% Republican advantage in voter enthusiasm is larger than the 53-45 Republican advantage Gallup measured in February of this year. [00:01:55] So the NBC poll says that Democrat voter enthusiasm is way up as indicated by their sample. [00:02:04] 11% more Democrats turning out to vote than Republicans. [00:02:07] That's what that plus 11 meant in the NBC Journal poll. [00:02:12] They gave the Democrats a plus 11 advantage in terms of number of respondents in the poll based on what they think the turnout is going to be. [00:02:24] Gallup goes on to say that Republicans' greater enthusiasm about voting is a troubling sign for the Obama campaign, especially given the fact that registered voters are essentially tied in their presidential voting preferences and that Republicans historically voted a higher rate than Democrats do. [00:02:42] If that last part is true, why does Gallup oversample the Democrats? [00:02:48] This doesn't make any sense. [00:02:50] Unless they're trying to suppress Republican vote, which we know they are, and they're trying to goose or inspire Democrat vote. [00:03:00] So if it's true that Republicans have greater enthusiasm about voting, and that's a troubling sign for Obama, how in the world, why in the world did NBC, Wall Street Journal, and every other polling outfit oversample Democrats so much? [00:03:17] And it's because they're using their poll to make news not reflect public opinion. [00:03:21] They're trying to create public opinion, trying to bend it and shape it. [00:03:26] But the big news here is that Obama's effort to suppress the vote isn't working. [00:03:31] And in Gallup's own release, the headline, Democrat voting enthusiasm down sharply from 2004 and 2008. [00:03:39] Democrats now significantly less likely, 39%, than they were in the summers of 2004, 2008 to say that they are more enthusiastic about voting than usual. [00:03:57] This is why I always trust my instincts. [00:04:02] I see an NBC Wall Street Journal poll or any poll that comes out that shows the Democrats with a plus 11. [00:04:08] There's no way that you can't even make that case. [00:04:11] Even if it were true, it's not reflected anywhere, even in the way they're reporting the news. [00:04:17] It's not reflected in the way Obama's behaving. [00:04:19] It's not reflected in the way the Democrats are behaving and the way they're talking. [00:04:27] And guess what? [00:04:28] F. Chuck Todd, NBC News, has just admitted, quote, our poll was skewed. [00:04:38] Okay, now it's time for audio sound bite number one. [00:04:42] I wasn't going to do it. [00:04:42] I like Brian Williams, even though Brian Williams, this is so tough. [00:04:49] You remember when Brian Williams had that 9 o'clock show at MSNBC? [00:04:52] Back when MSNBC was a responsible place. [00:04:58] I was a guest on that. [00:04:59] I was guest on Chris Matthews' show now and then. [00:05:02] We'd go over there to Secaucus or wherever it was, Fort Lee, and we'd hang around. [00:05:07] And I remember laughing with Matthews about stuff and always commiserating with him. [00:05:12] His ratings were always much lower than I thought his actual audience was. [00:05:16] And I'd tell him that. [00:05:19] We go back to Brian Williams' office. [00:05:21] Is he getting ready for his 9 o'clock show? [00:05:23] And one of the funniest guys in the world. [00:05:26] Now, these guys have just become totally infected with full-fledged partisanship. [00:05:34] And they're angry all the time. [00:05:36] I don't know about Brian, but they're angry and they're just at war every day. [00:05:48] So last night on the NBC Nightly News, here's Brian Williams with F. Chuck Todd as they trumpet their poll. [00:05:58] Our new NBC News Wall Street Journal poll debuting here tonight has some eye-opening findings about the way this campaign is being run and the effect it's having on both sides. [00:06:08] Our political director, Chief White House correspondent Chuck Todd with the numbers. [00:06:12] Chuck, good evening. [00:06:13] This campaign in the month of July has taken an especially nasty turn, and perhaps it was only a matter of time that voters would express their frustration. [00:06:21] That's the biggest takeaway from our new NBC Wall Street Journal poll. [00:06:24] While the fundamentals of the overall race haven't changed that much, President Still leads 4943 in this survey. [00:06:30] It's the negative campaign that has taken a toll on how voters view both the president and Mitt Romney. [00:06:36] That's just out the window now. [00:06:37] The Gallup poll is out, and NBC News' poll is an outlier. === He Didn't Build It (07:47) === [00:06:41] It's the only one. [00:06:42] Well, now they're joined by Reuters. [00:06:44] You only got two of them that show Obama in the lead, both of them incidentally by six points. [00:06:49] Both of them show enthusiasm down into negative ads working. [00:06:54] They're not working. [00:06:55] Chuck Todd admitted it was on Scarborough's show this morning. [00:06:58] Our poll was skewed. [00:07:01] So I wanted to play the way they introd the poll last night on nightly news. [00:07:05] And now they even in their web release of the poll, the headline was a lot of bad news for Romney Obama in the latest poll. [00:07:18] This is the poll that oversampled the Democrats by 11 points. [00:07:22] But again, Gallup is just out now with the exact opposite information. [00:07:29] The Republican voter enthusiasm is off the charts, higher than 2004, higher than 2008. [00:07:37] The effort to suppress isn't working. [00:07:42] The bad news for Romney is not bad news. [00:07:46] There isn't the bad news for Romney in the Gallup survey that NBC claims is in theirs. [00:07:55] Now, I want to go back and close the loop here on our discussion of health care and the various CBO reports and the confusing numbers. [00:08:07] Now, I want to go back to theHill.com report specifically. [00:08:13] They said in that story, the Supreme Court ruling will lower Obamacare costs. [00:08:21] And their headline in that story is incorrect. [00:08:29] Supreme Court decision cuts cost of health care reform by $84 billion. [00:08:33] The headline's false. [00:08:36] Here's why. [00:08:36] The ruling reduces the scope of Obamacare. [00:08:41] The costs to taxpayers fall because there's going to be less Obamacare. [00:08:48] Meaning, the states can opt out. [00:08:51] They don't have to spend. [00:08:52] There's going to be less, there'll be less people covered, fewer people covered, so there's going to be less Obamacare. [00:08:59] Now, this contradicts the claim of the regime that Obamacare was going to reduce costs. [00:09:04] Reducing Obamacare is what reduces costs, not Obamacare. [00:09:10] This is where the Hill gets their headline wrong. [00:09:15] If you look at the details of their story, what they're essentially saying is that the cost to taxpayers is falling because there are going to be less Obamacare. [00:09:22] There's going to be less health care. [00:09:25] I'm sorry for not catching that. [00:09:29] It was right in front of my face. [00:09:31] And I was too focused on all the different stories, the different numbers, the different interpretations. [00:09:36] The bottom line is to whatever extent costs are falling, it's because there's less Obamacare. [00:09:44] It's not because of the Supreme Court ruling. [00:09:47] It's not because Obamacare is reducing costs. [00:09:50] It's because less Obamacare, fewer people being covered. [00:09:55] Medicare is what's reducing the costs. [00:10:01] All right. [00:10:01] Let me make a programming format decision here. [00:10:10] Take a break. [00:10:10] Come back. [00:10:11] Get to the audio soundbites. [00:10:13] I've got a little revisit here of Obama and you didn't build it. [00:10:19] You didn't make that happen. [00:10:20] Because we're not going to let that go away. [00:10:23] And Obama's now got an ad out. [00:10:25] And I think all this is really getting under his skin, folks. [00:10:29] He's got an ad out now, whining and moaning at people taking him out of context. [00:10:33] He's out there saying people do what he does for a living. [00:10:36] You have to expect people to make things up about you. [00:10:39] And you have to expect people to lie about you. [00:10:41] And you have to expect that kind of criticism. [00:10:43] That's part of doing a job. [00:10:45] But this, he's not going to put up with. [00:10:48] This kind of misrepresentation and taking him out of context. [00:10:51] So this is getting under his skin. [00:10:55] And since we know it, and even if it weren't, we would keep focus on it because this is who he is. [00:11:05] So we'll take a break. [00:11:06] We'll come back to the latest chapter of all this when we return. [00:11:15] Hi, welcome back. [00:11:16] Here's Obama. [00:11:17] This is a new re-elect Obama TV ad. [00:11:22] It's called Always. [00:11:24] It has the president directly responding to Romney's use of Obama's you didn't build that remarks. [00:11:30] I think this might be Obama's first rebuttal ad. [00:11:36] Maybe ever. [00:11:38] Here's how it sounds. [00:11:39] Those ads, taking my words about small business out of context, they're flat out wall. [00:11:45] Of course, Americans build their own businesses. [00:11:47] Every day, hardworking people sacrifice to meet a payroll, create jobs, and make our economy run. [00:11:54] And what I said was that we need to stand behind them, as America always has, by investing in education and training, roads and bridges, research and technology. [00:12:05] And I prove this message because I believe we're all in this together. [00:12:09] Oh, well, bring out the Strativarians. [00:12:12] Bring out the violins. [00:12:13] Oh, we're all in this thing. [00:12:14] Roads and bridges. [00:12:15] You liberals drive me nuts with your clichés. [00:12:20] Roads and bridges, investing in education, as though we don't. [00:12:26] Training? [00:12:28] We wouldn't need training if education were worth it there. [00:12:31] We wouldn't need work training stations or whatever the hell these things are called. [00:12:37] If people were properly educated in school, you wouldn't need to have these stupid federal, whatever they're called, work centers. [00:12:46] Research and technology, you don't do any of that. [00:12:51] Ah, folks, it drives me nuts all these liberal cliches. [00:12:54] And isn't this whining? [00:12:57] What's he whining about? [00:12:58] Let's go back. [00:13:00] Friday, February 13th, Roanoke, Virginia. [00:13:03] If you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own. [00:13:07] You didn't get there on your own. [00:13:09] I'm always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. [00:13:13] There are a lot of smart people out there. [00:13:16] It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. [00:13:18] Let me tell you something. [00:13:19] There are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. [00:13:22] If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. [00:13:27] There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. [00:13:30] Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we had that allowed you to thrive. [00:13:37] Somebody invested in roads and bridges. [00:13:39] If you got a business, you didn't build that. [00:13:42] Somebody else made that happen. [00:13:44] The internet didn't get invented on its own. [00:13:46] Government research created the internet. [00:13:49] So then all the companies couldn't make money off the internet. [00:13:52] Those ads taking my words about small business out of context. [00:13:55] They're flat out wrong. [00:13:56] Of course, Americans build their own business. [00:13:57] Now, you didn't say that. [00:13:59] They're trying to say that he was taking it out of context when he said, somebody invested in roads and bridges. [00:14:05] You got a business. [00:14:06] You didn't build it. [00:14:08] Well, if he really was talking about roads and bridges, he would have said, if you got a business, you didn't build those. [00:14:16] Roads and bridges are plural. [00:14:18] You didn't build those, but he didn't say that. [00:14:21] You didn't build that. [00:14:22] Right after he said, you got a business, you didn't build that. [00:14:25] He was thinking, you didn't build your business. === Polls and Questions Matter (09:09) === [00:14:28] He said exactly what he intended to say. [00:14:32] Who built Caterpillar? [00:14:35] The guys that made the roads. [00:14:37] Caterpillar, guys that made the roads. [00:14:39] Look, this is so. [00:14:40] This is. [00:14:41] He doesn't. [00:14:44] He really doesn't. [00:14:46] Romney had it right. [00:14:47] His experience does not comport with the American experience. [00:14:51] It just doesn't, folks. [00:14:53] Romney is dead on right. [00:14:54] Whatever Obama's experience in life is, his education, mentoring, it doesn't comport with the American experience. [00:15:04] Here, here, my friends, this is who Obama thinks he is. [00:15:10] White comedian Paul Shanklin, and I'm the soul of your heart's perspiration. [00:15:18] Portraying vocally there the voice of Barack Hussein Obama, who's simply saying, rich people have got to get back. [00:15:27] I'm going to take from the rich. [00:15:29] They stole from you. [00:15:31] They don't deserve what they've got. [00:15:33] They didn't do anything on their own. [00:15:35] We did it for them. [00:15:36] You did it for them and you didn't get paid. [00:15:39] You got stolen from and you got used. [00:15:45] It has nothing to do with roads and bridges or infrastructure. [00:15:48] By the way, if You know, we've had more government than ever under Obama. [00:15:55] How come the economy didn't take off? [00:16:00] And I wonder, how many personalities does this guy have? [00:16:03] So, what he said last week is different than what he says now. [00:16:07] And in any event, he was right the first time, and he's right now. [00:16:11] He's never wrong. [00:16:15] We're dealing with Sybil here. [00:16:23] All right, now back to the phones. [00:16:25] And this is Phil in Orlando. [00:16:28] Phil, thank you for waving. [00:16:29] Nice to have you on the EIB network. [00:16:30] Hello. [00:16:31] Yeah, can you hear me, Rush? [00:16:32] Yeah, here you go. [00:16:34] Yeah, I just want to say, Mega Dittos, been listening to you for decades, and I want to thank you and Ronald Reagan for saving the country. [00:16:39] Thank you, sir. [00:16:40] Very, very, well, I appreciate being lumped in that way. [00:16:45] I'm sure you would. [00:16:46] I'm sure you would. [00:16:47] Thank you very much. [00:16:48] I've got a lot of interesting things to say about what you're saying about. [00:16:51] First of all, in 2010, I was looking for any work I could get. [00:16:55] I hired on with a nationwide political survey company here in the central Florida area. [00:17:01] I won't mention their name, but they're one of the biggest. [00:17:04] And I was doing 15, 16-hour shifts seven days a week for the three months prior to the midterm 2010 election. [00:17:11] And most of the people they were calling were liberals. [00:17:13] They're trying to marshal the troops, but they sometimes had issues. [00:17:16] Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho. [00:17:17] I need two things. [00:17:18] Need you to slow down so that I can follow you. [00:17:20] Number two, most of the people you call from the big name polling company were liberals? [00:17:26] Yes, they were paid by liberals, and I was scripted to ask questions a certain way. [00:17:31] Now, they did sometimes call a certain number of conservatives to try to get a balance point. [00:17:36] How did you know you were calling liberals? [00:17:38] It was an indication on the computer screen as I'm clicking, and the party affiliation was there, and they would also confirm that when I called in. [00:17:45] And the nature of the questions also made it very obvious. [00:17:48] Now, I just wanted to say one thing. [00:17:51] One of the most interesting questions I was asked to ask was: do you approve or do you disapprove of the job that Barack Obama is doing as president? [00:18:01] Now, 95% of the conservatives immediately said, are you kidding me? [00:18:05] Disapprove. [00:18:06] You know, it was like almost unanimous. [00:18:09] But on the liberal side, it was up in about 75, maybe 70, 75% were saying approve. [00:18:20] But then, on my own volition, I decided to reword the question a little bit. [00:18:24] And I said, on the next several hundred calls, I mean, I was doing, I don't know how many calls a day. [00:18:28] I said, do you approve? [00:18:30] Do you disapprove? [00:18:31] Or are you undecided about the job that Barack Obama is doing as president? [00:18:35] Again, the conservatives, no change, 95% or more. [00:18:38] The liberals were going, you know, I would have to say undecided. [00:18:42] It was up to 50, 65% were then all of a sudden undecided. [00:18:47] It was kind of a very telling thing. [00:18:48] Just the way you structure your questions makes a difference. [00:18:51] You know, there were 100 people in this call center. [00:18:53] Most of them were liberals. [00:18:54] It was about five conservatives like myself. [00:18:57] I felt like an infiltrator, but I have a disability and had to take any work I could get, and I took this job. [00:19:02] It was very, very interesting. [00:19:03] And another very interesting thing that happened, I ended up, one of the conservatives I called just happened to be, his name was John Hancock, and he told me, he was very patriotic. [00:19:14] He said, look, my grandfather's grandfather was the original John Hancock. [00:19:19] And he went on and on. [00:19:21] He was a big fan of yours. [00:19:22] He was a big fan of the Tea Party. [00:19:24] He even gave me permission to hang on to his phone number, but unfortunately, my cell phone busted a few weeks later. [00:19:29] I never got a chance to call that guy back. [00:19:30] But he remembered me, and I was laughing because I said, look, you'll remember me when I call you because I'm Phil the Infiltrator. [00:19:35] And he laughed. [00:19:36] But it was just an interesting thing. [00:19:38] I did surveys for these people for 90 days. [00:19:41] We were all scripted. [00:19:42] And, you know, I occasionally took the liberty to try to reword the question, to try to gauge what's really going on out there. [00:19:48] And I do believe these, and this is one of the biggest survey companies in the nation, calling all the way to Alaska and Hawaii at 1 o'clock in the morning from 9 a.m. to 1 in the morning. [00:19:55] And I was working these graveyard shifts. [00:19:58] I was working my way out of foreclosure, which I managed to do. [00:20:00] I mean, I busted my butt. [00:20:01] But anyway, it's just a very interesting process. [00:20:04] And 100 people in the call center on computer scripting and the name and the party affiliation is. [00:20:10] What would you say if I were to ask you to say in one or two sentences what you learned doing this? [00:20:19] What would you say? [00:20:23] It is easy to structure surveys to produce the results that the client wants. [00:20:30] All you have to do is be careful about the way you're wording it and the way you ask the question. [00:20:33] Yeah, but there's something even more powerful here. [00:20:36] You call these liberals and you ask them approve or disapprove and what 75% approve, but you give the option undecided and that gets cut in half. [00:20:46] Oh, yeah. [00:20:47] And you've got to remember, Rush, when I was getting 80% approved, 20% actually disapproved. [00:20:52] And they were actually set up. [00:20:54] This was 2010, back when they were still arguing stupid things like environmental issues and the polar bears are for drowning. [00:21:00] And now that was just during the midterm election. [00:21:03] It was the 90 days right before the November election in 2010. [00:21:06] Okay, so having done this, what's your reaction now when you hear the results of any poll that's reported in the news? [00:21:16] I believe we have to look very closely at the questions being asked and who's asking them. [00:21:21] And I just, I feel that Romney's on far better ground than he realizes. [00:21:25] And as a person who's been on the inside of this, I would like to tell him to just come out, please come out with a stronger message. [00:21:31] We'll all get behind him. [00:21:33] Start pushing a strong conservative message. [00:21:35] Well, it sounds to me like essentially what you're saying here is that the polls that you were taking had questions structured in such a way that Democrats were boxed into answers that regardless how they answered, you got an acceptable opinion for Obama because only certain options were available to him. [00:22:05] And we all know this. [00:22:08] You structure a poll to get whatever you want out of it. [00:22:12] I've long believed, and I've long stated, that polls have ceased many moons ago being reflections of public opinion. [00:22:23] Polls are now news stories. [00:22:25] They are an excuse to report the news as news networks and news divisions want the news covered. [00:22:34] They're simply ways to shape public opinion now in the form of a news story rather than actually reflect public opinion. [00:22:47] The polls that are taken that actually reflect public opinion are the polls taken by the campaigns. [00:22:56] They can't afford to monkey around. [00:22:59] And these are the polls that we never see. [00:23:02] Campaign polls, White House internals, they're called, in some cases, or the Romney and Turtle polls. [00:23:08] They can't afford to lie to themselves. [00:23:11] They can't afford to live delusions. [00:23:15] You've got to wonder, though, about Obama and if they're all caught up in delusions. [00:23:21] I think they are. [00:23:22] I think they are. [00:23:23] I think they really still stuck in this Messiah mindset, and they're stuck in this notion that their guy is universally loved, adored, and respected, and looked way, way up to. [00:23:35] I think they're fooling themselves. === 83 Million Unemployment Claims (06:41) === [00:23:37] Big time. [00:23:38] It's interesting, Phil. [00:23:39] Thanks for the call. [00:23:40] I appreciate it. [00:23:41] It's James in Rolla, Missouri. [00:23:42] Great to have you on the program, sir. [00:23:44] Hello. [00:23:44] Hello, Rush. [00:23:45] Been listening to you for 20 years. [00:23:47] I'm a conservative, retired university professor. [00:23:49] One of my aunts is from Rolla, Missouri. [00:23:55] My aunt Mary is from Rolla, Missouri. [00:23:58] She married my uncle Manly, which is my dad's brother. [00:24:03] It's a wonderful town. [00:24:04] It is a great town. [00:24:06] School of Mines. [00:24:07] It was the University School of Mines is in Rolla, Missouri. [00:24:10] Yeah, now it's called Missouri University of Science and Technology. [00:24:14] Yeah, well, there's more than mines that are being taught there. [00:24:17] Yes, it is. [00:24:19] My question is very simple: how can we have 8.2% unemployment when if you add up all of the first-time jobless claims every Friday that's been carried out since Obama's been in office, that sums up as of the end of June to 83,918,000 people have lost their jobs. [00:24:44] Well, because if I understand your question, let's say the number is the 400,000 number that they either try to avoid 400,000 applications for unemployment. [00:24:56] Those are not brand new every week. [00:24:59] Some of those are the same people reapplying. [00:25:01] It says first time, though. [00:25:06] It says first-time unemployment claims. [00:25:11] First-time unemployment claims. [00:25:13] Yes. [00:25:15] And your number you get is 83 million? [00:25:17] 83,918,000 as of the end of June, the end of July. [00:25:22] It'll be 85 million. [00:25:26] This is very interesting because within the past three months, in talking about unemployment, there was a period of a week or two where a number very close to that was cited as the actual number of adults not working in the country. [00:25:55] And it was a scary number when you look at the fact that 210 million adults, I think the number was around 80 million adults who were not working. [00:26:09] According to the BLS numbers, the number of Americans who are looking for work and can't find any, and those who have given up looking for work and don't have a job, that percentage is 18.2% right now. [00:26:28] The U6 numbers are on 18.2%. [00:26:31] Now, what that translates to in actual raw numbers, I don't know. [00:26:38] Did what you have, since Obama took office, you've taken the weekly numbers. [00:26:42] The weekly numbers and summed them all up in a spreadsheet, yes. [00:26:46] At first time, you've found the number every week, first time unemployment. [00:26:52] That's right. [00:26:53] And you've come up with 83 million. [00:26:57] So that's. [00:26:58] Now, those numbers come from the state have to report every week how many have filed for first-time unemployment numbers. [00:27:06] That's where that number comes from. [00:27:08] Well, you ask an interesting question. [00:27:12] You ask an interesting question that no question about it deserves an answer. [00:27:17] And of course, you've called the right place. [00:27:20] We will get the answer. [00:27:23] Now, in May, this is what I was talking about. [00:27:26] In May, James, we were told that 88 million Americans were no longer in the labor force. [00:27:35] This is the labor force participation rate. [00:27:42] This is the number that keeps rising that keeps actually, well, the labor force participation rate actually keeps shrinking, which is what keeps the unemployment percentage low. [00:27:52] I remember getting into arguments with people who tried to tell me that the labor force participation rate had nothing to do with the unemployment rate. [00:28:01] I said, you can't possibly be right. [00:28:05] Well, it was a long, drawn-out discussion of the number of jobs that no longer exist in the country. [00:28:12] And that number, since Obama took office, the government has just reduced the labor force participation rate by over 2 million. [00:28:23] They've just said that there are 2 million fewer jobs to be had. [00:28:30] And I would say, well, okay, if the universe of jobs has shrunk and you're comparing the people seeking jobs, you're obviously going to have a smaller unemployment percentage, which is why I have accused the regime of monkeying around with the numbers. [00:28:48] Now, are you using the so-called seasonally adjusted unemployment numbers, or are you using the real unadjusted new claims number? [00:28:59] Do you know the difference? [00:29:01] My numbers came from the U.S. Jobless Claims Chart published by Bloomberg on the way. [00:29:08] U.S. jobless claims chart published by Bloomberg. [00:29:12] It's a chart, and if you click on each week, it'll print out at the top of it the actual number for that week, and that's where I got my numbers. [00:29:20] These are first-time unemployment claims. [00:29:23] But you don't know if it's seasonally adjusted or raw data. [00:29:25] I do not know. [00:29:27] Okay, it's probably seasonally adjusted. [00:29:31] But either way, it's tremendously different than the 8% they talk about. [00:29:36] Well, everybody knows it's not 8%. [00:29:41] The government's own U6 number is around 18% now. [00:29:45] That 8.2% just counts people who are looking. [00:29:49] There's a whole lot of people who've given up looking. [00:29:51] Their 99 weeks have perspired, and they're now on disability. [00:29:56] Well, if you took it in 99 weeks, the last 99 weeks, there's 44 million people that filed for unemployment claim. [00:30:04] Well, I think it makes sense. [00:30:09] It's devastating out there. [00:30:12] We ought to run a total each week that that comes out when they give that number. [00:30:16] Why don't you put the sum total for his total? === Total Unemployment Counts (01:21) === [00:30:19] Look, we got a staff here. [00:30:21] We got a staff. [00:30:23] And maybe somebody on the staff get to the bottom of it. [00:30:28] Me. [00:30:30] This interesting, I've got to take a break here. [00:30:32] I'm way long, but interesting. [00:30:37] I'll do my best to have an answer for you before the election. [00:30:46] You know, this calculation gets really complicated because even if you're using the raw number of first-time unemployment claims, you still have to know how many people are being hired that week. [00:30:59] People are being hired. [00:31:00] Are people getting jobs? [00:31:02] It's just not nearly enough to compensate for those that are losing jobs and to speak up the pace of the economy. [00:31:11] Well, we'll do our best to get to the bottom of that. [00:31:21] Well, another fastest three hours in media is fini. [00:31:26] Toto la completa. [00:31:29] But as always, my friends, it never really ends. [00:31:31] We have a 21-hour timeout here where we rev up and get ready to go for tomorrow. [00:31:38] Thanks for being with us today, and see you tomorrow.