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July 20, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 20, 2012, Friday, Hour #3
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Yes, America's anchor man is away.
And this is your undocumented anchor man, Mark Stein sitting in, honored to be here.
No supporting paperwork whatsoever.
But I am a fully credentialed Canadian superhero.
In my spare time, I like to dress up in my superhero suit and fly around as Moose Boy.
Moose Boy and my uh and my superhero partner, Beaver Girl.
We fly around Canada and we solve all kinds of all kinds of crimes.
Uh w we're talking on uh today, we've been talking about the events last night at the movie screening in Aurora, Colorado.
Uh Kerry Pickett has a great uh list in the Washington Times.
I said earlier the definition of a nanosecond is uh is the time gap between a an a atrocity, a mass murder uh by some uh uh individual psycho and the uh point at which the media will blame it on the Tea Party.
That's the definite new definition of a nanosecond.
Uh the the uh guy, remember, she's got a great list of it at the Washington Times, all the times this has happened.
February twenty ten, man flies plane into IRS office in Texas, uh suggesting uh in the New York Times whether uh according to the New York Times, quote, does this mean more than a few Tea Partiers are unhinged?
In fact, the guy who did this in his manifesto on the internet, he compared communism favorably to capitalism.
Do you remember the Times Square bomber?
Uh this was a guy who attempted to blow up Times Square.
Mayor Bloomberg, the guy calling for uh gun control now, Mayor Mayor Bloomberg announced that the Times Square bomber was most probably someone objecting to Obamacare.
In fact, of course, it turned out to be the usual uh jihad boy uh in fact who'd been uh uh fallen behind on his house payments uh and had gone back to Pakistan because he'd gone back to Pakistan to train in a camp for jihad.
So there's a th the uh Gabby Gifford's shooting was a guy called Jared Lochner, who was crazy, had no political motive.
But it's always blamed on the Tea Party.
You know who else blames things on the Tree Party, by the way, if you're wondering about the connection between the Tea Party and the Batman movie, long before Rush came along and said anything about Batman movie, Morgan Freeman, who plays one of the key characters in Batman, I mentioned uh just a few moments ago, Lucius Fox, who's basically the wise counselor to Bruce Wayne, the uh uh the Morgan Freeman does his usual shtick.
Uh but Morgan Freeman, America's wise guy, the guy that you uh whenever you need uh an older, wiser man to be the conscience of the movie, or whether you actually want him to play God, you get Morgan Freeman to do it, Morgan Freeman said uh the Tea Party are racist.
Uh first connection between the Batman franchise and the Tea Party uh was made by Morgan Freeman, uh the s a s a a a mainstay of the series uh who denounced the Tea Party as uh as racist and has now given a million dollars to uh to uh to the Obama campaign.
By the way, I don't want to make it s sound like I'm anti-Batman.
I was in Chicago uh a couple of years ago and uh ran into in a in Obama's favorite restaurant, in fact, happened to run into uh Michael Kane, who plays Alfred the Butler in the movies, and Michael's lovely wife uh Shakira, and uh had a uh a very pleasant time there.
So I'm fully on board with the Batman franchise, got no problem with it.
As I said, I have a marginal preference for the music in the nineteen sixties one, uh, but I'm not anti-Batman, but the idea that simply discussing Batman, uh the the idea that that a guy who goes and guns down the movie theatre uh audience at a Batman screening uh is any part of the political discourse in this country is insane.
Uh this guy who did it is a mass murderer.
Why can't we talk about things like that now?
If you look at the effete passive language of both Obama's and Romney statements, oh this is a tragedy, a tragedy.
A tragedy is something that happens to you.
Uh uh a tragedy is when your uh you've got your whole life ahead of you and a tsunami sweeps in and washes you out to sea.
When a guy uh walks into a movie theater and guns you down, that is an act of evil for which he is responsible.
And the idea that somehow uh it's connected to uh democratic politics in a two-party system, to make that argument for the left to make that argument is so damaging uh to political discourse in this country because because it's actually it's it's binding politics to violence it's saying no you can't say this no you can't say this they do this in Europe all the time they've done that uh with the guy in Norway when he went berserk they attempted that the left attempted say well we shouldn't be able to talk about certain
because this guy killed people.
You shouldn't be able to talk about immigration.
You shouldn't be able to talk about multiculturalism.
You shouldn't be...
When you can't talk about anything, you're left with nothing but blowing stuff up, which is the way it is in dictatorships.
The left should be ashamed at the way it attempts to politicize these things.
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We had an in-depth conversation, probably more in-depth than most of our 600 affiliates cared for, on Canadian superheroes.
We probably lost, I would say, maybe 120 affiliates in the course of that discussion of Canadian superheroes.
They probably said, they probably said, well, no, it's almost, yes, that was true.
We lost, when I was talking about cricket, that was the Australian guy, wasn't it, Mike?
He was talking about the Ashes.
England versus Australia at the Ashes.
I could feel radios being, people are saying, you think there's reruns of Janine Garofalo's old show on Air America on the other side we're not going to talk about cricket but anything this side of cricket you can talk about.
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I'll tell you what I'll talk about, snow globes.
You know, the very first time I did this show, I'd just flown in from Australia via New Zealand, and I was changing planes at Wellington, and I had an hour to kill in the airport, and I went in, I picked up a snow globe, a little attractive New Zealand snow globe of sheep.
You shake it up, and little snowflakes start to fall on the attractive New Zealand sheep, And I went to pay for it, and it was whatever it was, 12 bucks or whatever.
whatever and just as she'd finished running up the credit card thing she said oh wait a minute are you flying to the United States because that very day the Department of Homeland Security had banned snow globes from being taken aboard an American airliner.
It was some kind of response to uh some terrorist plot uh I think arising out of Heathrow that you could I could have taken that snow globe of the New Zealand sheep into the men's room at Wellington Airport and weaponize the snow globe.
I could have uh opened the glass uh removed the liquid in there replaced it with some kind of weaponized liquid uh sealed it up and taken down the airliner.
So I could fly I was free as a snow uh to fly with my snow globe from uh Moscow to Tokyo from Beijing to Rio de Janeiro from Copenhagen to Cape Town I could fly anywhere with my snow globe but not to the United States of America.
Well uh the TSA is now has now announced that it is putting in procedures to make it possible for law abiding citizens uh to take snow globes on American airliners in the United States.
The snow globe will have to fit in your 311 bag in other words it will have to be part of your liquids uh the it has to be in the same bag as your other as all your other gels so you have to keep it in you know whatever bag you keep all your other liquids and lubricants and uh metrosexual moisturizers in you have to be able to get your snow globe into the three one one bag.
But snow globes are now free, free at last, free at last, to carry a snow globe onto an American airline.
That's coming this summer.
Meanwhile, meanwhile, though, no reprieve for Kinder Eggs.
I mentioned this a couple of years ago, round about Easter.
My kids were coming across the Quebec-Vermont border, and they were asked by the Border Patrol officers, by the...
customers and border protection whether they had any kinder chocolate eggs on them.
And being law abiding persons, they said yes they had.
And those eggs were confiscated because there's a little toy in the egg.
And it's safe.
It's perfectly safe for Canadians.
It's perfectly safe for Mexicans.
It's perfectly safe for Europeans, perfectly safe for Africans, perfectly safe for Indians, perfectly safe for Australians.
But Americans cannot be trusted with kind chocolate eggs because they could start to bite into the chocolate and then choke on the toy.
This doesn't happen in Mexico, doesn't happen.
It could happen here, though.
So they've got customs and border protection, United States Department of Agriculture, and some other government department.
I know this because I got the letter from them.
I got like a forty page document from them a couple of days after my eggs were confiscated, saying that my kind eggs were being held in a secure facility in Buffalo, and that if I wanted to contest the case, I would I could do so, but I had to fill in forty pages of paperwork and it would uh I'd have to pay six hundred dollars or something to continue storing uh three bucks worth of kinder surprise chocolate eggs.
My my uh boy, my youngest boy, who was uh I think at that time he was nine, he actually had the best uh answer to this.
He said to the guard, well, if it's dangerous to have these eggs, why don't you open the chocolate egg and you hold the toy while I eat the chocolate and then give me back the toy so I can take it back to do Habsha with me.
But the uh customers and border protection guy uh then uh warned him that uh that he was not to he was not to uh to contest the homeland security procedures of the United States.
Now it has happened again.
Chris Sweeney and this is a this turns out to be a gay couple, because all I gather, because the language is Chris Sweedy and his husband, Chris Sweeney and his husband, this is how homophobic, by the way, national security is in the United States.
They're now confiscating the kinder eggs of gay couples.
Chris Sweeney and his husband were driving home to Seattle after a recent trip to Vancouver when they were stopped at the border for more than two hours and threatened with thousands of dollars of fines for dangerous contraband in the trunk of their car.
Their suspicious cargo, half a dozen kinds chocolate eggs.
A childhood favorite in Canada, but an illegal choking hazard in the United States.
Uh they uh Sweeney said a border guard told him and his husband that they could be fined two thousand five hundred dollars per egg.
They waited more than two hours, terrified that they were going to be fined fifteen thousand dollars for six kinder eggs.
Roughly sixty thousand kinder eggs were seized last year by US Customs and Border Protection.
Uh I don't know whether this is just gay couples kinds.
I mean, it's not clear to me that if, for example, you had Major Hassan, if he had attempted to cross at the uh at the Seattle port of entry after a trip to Vancouver, if Major Hassan had happened to cross uh the United States border with a kind egg, uh with a kinder egg with uh a uh Alahu Akbar written on the wrapper, whether Major Hassan would have managed to get through.
But sixty thousand kinder eggs, possibly not all seized from gay couples, were seized by United States customs and border protection last year.
You are free in so many respects, envy of the world, beacon of liberty, but you cannot be trusted with a kind egg.
You know, I think this whole by the way, to go back to the TSA and Snow Globes, I think this whole national security problem, if you get sick of the lines at the airports and all and all the rest of it, I think this whole national security problem, because they can track kinds.
It's like the panty bomber.
The panty bomber was on the no fly list or the standby list for the no fly list or whatever.
His father had fingered him to the CIA, but they still let him get on the plane.
If that panty bomber had had a kinder egg, he would never have got on the plane.
All we need to do is send an unmanned drone to bomb Waziristan, carpet bomb Waziristan and Yemen with kinds, and customs and border protection of the United States will be right on it immediately.
No terrorists will get through.
There'll be kinder eggs.
They'll have they'll have their underpants wired, they'll have the bomb in there, but somehow some little kind will have managed to get into there, into the gusset of their underwear.
And they'll never get through.
They'll never get on the plane.
Customs and border protection, Department of Homeland Security, TSA, you've got a kind egg.
You can't get a kind egg into this country.
Not even gay couples.
Obama's evolution Obama who famously evolved.
His position on gayness evolved.
But it didn't evolve to permit gay Americans to go around with kinder eggs.
He isn't going to evolve that far, no way no how.
He's not going to evolve.
His position on gayness is not going to evolve to let gay American couples bring back their gay kinder eggs from the from from Canada, the land of gay kinder eggs.
But but there are so there is I think a national security issue here that if we just carpet bomb an unmanned drone dropping kinder eggs all over Waziristan, all over Yemen, all over Somalia, we will boom that's it, the war on terror is over.
Nobody with a kinderg is going to get into the United States.
This land is a kind it's a fruited plane, but it's not a kind of egg plane, so it's safe from that.
Snow globes, okay.
Snow globes in your 311, but no kinder eggs.
That's your security update 1 eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two Openline Friday continues after this.
Mark Stein in Infrarush, let's go to Sioux in uh Northern California.
We're not gonna it's an undisclosed location in Northern California.
We're not going to get any more specific than that.
But great to have you with us on the show Sue.
Good morning.
Thank you for taking my call.
I wanted to talk about social justice and how it's absolutely tearing this country apart.
We should be focusing on equal justice under you know in our judicial system with our politicians in the media.
And and they just they won't do it Well well let's let's let's just uh let's just uh stop there uh uh a moment so because you said equal justice.
I think we should be focusing on justice.
Well justice justice is a great word uh and it gets less great when you when you start putting stupid uh stupid qualifiers in front of it.
Uh the more so-called social justice you have the less actual justice you have.
That that is that is simply a fact.
If you've got a real justice system you don't need to put any qualifying words in front of it.
And whenever you hear the word social justice, which you do, you hear it from like the mainline Protestant churches, they're always going on about social justice.
Community organizers always going on about social justice.
It's i it's it's a wicked term uh because it it actually strikes at the heart of uh of justice which is blind uh a real justice system because you create victims and when you create victims you create a perpetrator and that's exactly like the media this morning shame on George Stepanopoulos and Brian Ross for trying to vilify or create a pr a false perpetrator with conservatives.
Well because they see it as as they as they see it, Sue, they're they're when you look at it through a social justice prism, there are approved identity groups, you know so for example social justice means that a gay can be the victim of a hate crime or a Muslim can be the victim of a hate crime or whatever.
And uh and and you say it it it creates victims.
It also creates massive uh statism uh because you need a huge government the government is the only legitimate arbiter of the relationships between all these approved identity groups uh so social justice I think uh one of the great wicked things about it is it it tends to be a very good ration everybody who talks about social justice in the end means bigger government and more state control Sue.
I've been with all the lawsuits that the government have been hitting the corporations up with and the banks and the payout for, you know, evil loans to poor people.
They were made of victims.
OK, pay five billion dollars and now everything's OK.
Yeah, that money's going to the government.
Yeah.
But that's why whenever I mean, I think the minute somebody starts to use the term, I think we social justice is one of those terms.
There's a lot of words that conservatives let liberals steal away from them, including a liberalism, apart from anything else, because.
there's nothing liberal about liberalism.
It's extremely coercive and unpleasant and social justice justice is one of those word justice justice uh does not need qualifiers.
And the minute you put words like social in front of it, you're saying you're arguing for statism.
You're you're arguing for treating not as people as individuals equal before the law, uh, but individuals who whose rights depend on which of these preferred identity groups they fall into.
Are you a transgendered person?
Uh are you a Hispanic person?
Are you a whatever?
And uh and that's the great wickedness of social justice.
Thanks for reminding me uh of that phrase, by the way, Sue.
It's distressing to me.
Used to hear it a lot uh at left wing campuses in Canada and the United Kingdom and Europe, and it's worrying to me that you hear it now uh from very mainstream figures here in the United States.
Social justice is not a good phrase, and you should be wary of anybody who uses it.
Thank you to Sue in California for that.
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Mr. Snerdley reminded me that when I was going on about the uh the zealots of homeland security seizing sixty thousand kinder eggs, uh attempting uh that people were attempting to bring in, uh, mainly from Canada as I understand it.
They're all mine were held at a secure facility in uh Buffalo.
Uh I don't know whether the others are being uh held there, these sixty thousand, but the entire Buffalo economy is probably dependent now on the great uh kindergarage facility there.
Uh someone will someone will eventually break if they were remaking Goldfinger.
Remember Goldfinger, where they attempt to do the big heist at Fort Knox.
If they were doing that now, they'd do a big heist at the Kinder Egg facility at uh at Buffalo.
It's the world's largest storage facility for kinds, and your tax dollars are paying for it.
Uh Jonah Falcon, 41.
A man known for his unusually large penis, was stopped by airport security at San Francisco International last week after they questioned him about the bulge in his pants.
He was returning from a trip in San Francisco on July the 9th when he was stopped at security by TSA agents who spotted something out of the ordinary hanging to the left in his pants.
Uh this apparently is Mr. Jonah Falcons.
He's been in documentaries about about men with large penises.
Um but they th his penis is non-compliant with current TSA rules.
It's like apparently it's like the amount of, you know, whatever you the three fluid ounces of liquids you're like.
Apparently there's a maximum penis size or something now.
I'm just telling this, because like Rush listeners are renowned for this.
So if you're going to the airport, this might be an issue for you.
You've got to put your penis in the check baggage now, because if it's not compliant with TSA regulations.
Uh and and it's like, well, you know you can you can't bring it on in the carry-on.
That's that's the point.
You've got to you've got to put it in the hold.
Uh this this is uh uh he he was very sportive about it, Joe De Falcon.
But apparently this is the TSA agent's new thing, is you know, is that a kinderg in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?
Uh this guy apparently he's got a penis the size of a kind egg and transport security administration, right on top of it.
They stopped, they patted him down, they checked the area around it.
They also wiped his hands to check for explosive powder.
Apparently they're concerned that they he that Jonah Falcon might have weaponized his penis.
So it it's not, yeah, you don't want to be around.
When the world's largest penis goes off, you don't want to be in the vicinity.
So they're right, they're right to be uh, you know, they're right to be taking care of this kind of thing.
So it's not just kindergarts.
I don't want to give the impression that the national security of the United States is entirely dependent on the sixty thousand kindergarts they seem.
They're also they're also issuing guidelines on uh maximum penis size.
So the Republic can sleep easy, knowing that large penises are not going to enter the United States of America.
If you'll forgive the expression.
I feel safe all I shall certainly sleep tonight much more easily, knowing knowing that.
Jonah Falcon.
Jonah Falcon, he has I don't believe it.
You know, when I when I used to be a disc jockey, the rock and roll guys were renowned for when they went through airport security.
It was all a lot easier in those days.
Uh and they all wore the tight leather trout.
You remember Rod Stewart in the tight leather trousers?
If you won my buddy and you think I'm sexy.
He just had he didn't have any he just had a kinderg.
He had a kinderg in his uh kept a kinder egg in his trout in his tight leather trousers.
They all did, all the rock guys, everybody knows that.
But this guy, anyway, they were concerned, and they decided that they were going to pat him down and check that there was nothing in there that could cause any difficulties.
Let's go to Susan in High Point, North Carolina.
Susan, you're live on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Great to have you with us.
Thank you so much, Mark.
I just wanted to say that I'm calling about the Aurora atrocity, and I feel like the American people deserve some consistency during times like this, um, coming from our leadership.
And what I'm trying to say is I believe um we need to have the Obama administration define for us what their definition of terror is.
Because this morning during Obama's speech, he mentioned the word terror.
Um he said something to the effect of the people in Aurora were terrorized.
And you know, I think back to what happened back at Fort Hood and how that word seemed to be faux pas.
And I just think that there needs to be some consistency.
Maybe it was a misspeak on his part.
You know, I know he's been trying to um uh get off his teleprompter, so maybe he just wasn't thinking before he was speaking if he was not using a teleprompter.
But I you know, I think that it's we either need to not be allowed to say that word, and of course I'm all for free speech, but you know, it's kind of like top-down leadership.
Yeah, what is it?
Is it sure or is it not?
Well, the the point about uh terrorism is that it makes uh civilians a target.
People were talking about this about uh the uh Assad's defense minister getting uh getting blown up in Syria and his brother-in-law getting blown up in Syria.
Terror terrorism targets people who have nothing to do with whatever your beef is.
Terrorism targets the people on on the bus.
Terrorism targets the people who are going to work in their office in a skyscrap in uh in a skyscraper.
Um and in that sense, this is an act of terror in the sense that people in that movie theater uh because that's the other uh definition of terrorism, it's what happens when the frágile civilization uh in which we all live crumbles and you're in a primal uh suddenly in a primal environment where you you went to a normal social occasion, a motion picture at your local theater, and suddenly there's a guy shooting at you and killing your friends and neighbors.
Uh and that is terrifying.
But you're right to uh draw attention to the fact that there is a a slight difference here, that when something like the major Hassan thing happens, uh they're very keen to say this is this is not terrorist.
He's not a terrorist, by which they mean he's not a card-carrying member of Al Qaeda, because Al Qaeda doesn't have card-carrying members.
It's not like the KGB uh where you had some control guy uh that you had to go and meet in uh in in i on a park bench uh next to the third rock next to the tree in Washington, D.C. and your control guy at uh the Soviet embassy reported back to Moscow.
Uh there's no card carrying members.
Uh jihad is essentially uh perpetrated by freelance adherents of a global ideology.
And so you're not gonna find an Al-Qaeda union card in the guy's pocket.
So every time they do that, they're actually trying to m mislead you and they're trying to distract you from what the story is.
Uh i in the case of Major Hood.
They're trying to say he's just a one-off, he's just isolated.
He d pay no attention to anything he may have written, anything he may have said.
There is no broader context to this man's act.
Uh there were lots of broader context.
He he was a guy, I think he was uh Lebanese or Palestinian in origin, but he he wore the uh Shawa Kemish uh that uh i is a sign of um South Asians, of Pakistanis, for example.
So he he was consciously choosing to identify with certain groups.
But they said, Oh no, no, this means nothing.
Don't pay any attention to him.
He's just one guy, one lone crazy one lone wolf.
Lone wolf was the phrase they were using.
There's all they're all lone wolves.
The panty woman bombers a lone wolf, the Times Square bombers a lone wolf.
They all belong to the amalgamated union of lone wolves.
Uh but every time any of that happens, these guys insist these lone wolf, there's no broader context.
Every time it is a genuine lone wolf, like this fella, a PhD candidate, neurosciences, uh University of Colorado, uh and he goes down and he kills a bunch of people.
It's the exact opposite.
It's the rush to put it in a broader context.
What radio shows did he listen to?
What uh what what what political parties did he support?
What uh what mass movements did he get?
Did he ever attend a Tea Party rally?
Is he on a teapot?
It's the complete opposite.
Uh when when a guy stands on a table and starts firing and he yells Alohu Akbar, uh the media run in one direction.
Uh when a guy goes to a movie theater and he guns down his fellow American citizens, his friends and neighbors, people who live in the same town, uh they the media run in the opposite direction.
They they want to pin the tail.
They want to pin that act on a particular uh political philosophy in this country.
Uh when Major Hassan is screaming Alahu Akbar, they want to disconnect it from any kind of broader ideology or philosophy.
Uh so thank you for your call, uh Susan, and you're right, there is a certain inconsistency there.
Mark Stein in Farush, open line Friday continues in just a moment.
Mark Stein in Farush on the EIB network, Rush Returns Monday.
I mentioned earlier uh this uh fellow who blew up a bus full of Israeli tourists and killed five in Bulgaria on Wednesday, Medi Gezali.
Uh he was a Swedish national who was captured during the battle at Tora Bora in Afghanistan in 2001, uh handed over to the US military and wound up at Guantanamo Bay.
Now this again, this gets to the difference between how we treat people.
This fellow uh who guns down all these people at a movie house, he he's either gonna die or he's gonna be in jail until he dies.
He's either going to be executed or he's gonna be in jail until he dies.
But if you're captured battling Western soldiers at Tora Bora, Afghanistan, and you wind up at Guantanamo Bay, it's a whole other story.
Medhi Ghazali, his lawyers said, Oh no, he's he's this isn't a vicious jihadist killer.
He's just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Uh so he he was just, you know, he got mixed up with the fallen in with the wrong crowd when he was trying to find his way back to his madrasa in Pakistan.
This was the this was the the story.
So he gets sprung from Gitmo.
He becomes a big hero.
The Swedish Prime Minister, Goran Persson, uh pleads for him to be released.
Uh the Swedish newspaper Dargens Nietta uh calls him a uh guy with rock star status, and so uh so of course he gets released from Gitmo and he uh and he goes back, and the first thing he does when he goes back is he rejoins the Jihad uh and he's now killed five Israeli tourists and perhaps as many as eight in Bulgaria.
It's there's two different two different standards here.
It's inter why why do we not treat people who are waging war against the United States the way we treat people who open fire uh at Colorado movie theaters?
It's an interesting question.
Uh where are we going now, Mr. Snadley?
Is it to Tim?
Tim in Salem, Oregon.
Tim, you're live on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Thanks, uh thanks for joining us.
Mark, how do you think the gun control lobby and the NRA will respond to the shooting in Colorado?
I'm not sure about that.
Uh the in the interesting thing here, if I were the NRA, for example, I think I would actually step back a bit until there until the the more details emerge.
This guy is not uh typical, despite Brian Ross's best efforts, this guy is not a typical angry white male.
He's a twenty four he looks like a twenty-four-year-old comic book nerd uh and he uh and he's uh uh in the neurosciences program and he was a PhD candidate.
So the idea that this is you know the way it was with the Washington sniper, where until it turns out that it's uh that it's uh uh t the the actual perpetrators were caught, everyone was saying it was an angry white male, uh probably a lone man, a a a uh uh uh a loner who was into hunting into guns and all the rest of it, and turned out to be something entirely different.
So if I I don't think the NRA needs to respond to it.
I mean the Twitter guys are saying the NRA are a terrorist organization, Piers Morgan is saying we need gun control, we need to ban guns.
But if I was the NRA, that that that, by the way, is going nowhere.
Democrats only mention this issue at the time of these shootings because they know that otherwise it's a political loser for them, Tim.
Mark, I don't know if you know that Oregon is an open carry state.
When do you think citizens will start taking action to protect others?
Yeah, and I I that's the point I made earlier, that I think in in Colorado, which isn't, uh which isn't an open carry state, uh, and in fact in movie theaters, I believe some I don't know whether this movie chain does, but certainly some movie chains say you're not allowed to bring guns into the theater.
Uh, and whether or not that's a good idea.
What it means is that when a guy opens fire, there's nobody there to take down the shooter.
That's the difference between this and the thing at the Appalachian Law School in West Virginia, where the the the only di these stories come up every so often.
And the only reason we remember some of them and we don't remember others is because uh at some of them, the guy shoots one person, two people, three people, and then he gets pinned down uh because there's there's some guys there with uh uh who are also carrying guns who are able to stop his shooting rambage.
Otherwise, as in this instance, the guy is just free to shoot as many people as he wants, Tim.
Hey, Tim, you still there?
Yes, I am.
Tim.
Yeah, t that's that's the that's the issue.
I mean, there's a difference in states.
And I'm sure that this m uh would have gone differently in other states, uh, but the but the reality is that many, many places, even within states that now allow concealed carry and all the rest of it, uh, many of them uh th they still have uh there's restrictions, private shopping malls, you can't do this, you can't do that, and all the rest of it.
Uh and what makes the difference on these occasions is uh whether there is somebody on the scene who is that's basically the the story of every every crime.
Is there somebody on the scene who can stop the crime before it's finished?
And the more gun control you have, the less likelihood there is that there's going to be anybody there who'll be able to take down the guy uh until he's finished doing what he wants to do, Tim.
Do you think more people will carry guns?
Well, I think it's interesting to me, for example, that in the uh immediate uh months after 91, uh gun control uh gun gun sales went up.
Uh and I think that's a reasonable response.
Nobody knew what was going to happen, but people understood that the lesson of 911 that we don't learn is that that was the perfect uh apart from anything else, that was the perfect gun control environment.
One of the first places in the United States where you couldn't take a gun was on a plane.
Harry Conick Jr. got arrested for it, uh trying to accidentally trying to take a gun on a plane.
And uh so it's like it's like the perfect liberal environment.
You've got to do everything you've told.
You've got to follow uh you gotta every aspect of your life on that plane is regulated.
And in the end, in the end, when something went down, big government wasn't up there on the plane with you.
And and people were left to their own devices.
And flight the Flight 93 guys, the lesson of that is that the Flight 93 guys, their government failed them, and they saved the day.
And that and that is a good broad lesson that we have forgotten from those days.
That that what makes the difference at these events, what makes the difference at these events is whether there are uh alert, self-reliant citizens uh who are able to s who who are able to stop the guy before he can accomplish what the scale of the atrocity that he has in mind.
And that is why it is important uh that uh we have concealed carry laws, and that is why it is important that citizens understand that ultimately, when something like this goes down, the big government nanny state, nanny Bloomberg, and all the other big nannies of big government, they're not sitting there in the movie theater next to you.
Thanks for your call, Tim, more to come.
Twelve dead and seventy-one injured is the uh current count from the attack uh on the movie theater in Colorado.
James Holmes is in custody, and there will be more to come throughout the weekend.
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