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July 3, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 3, 2012, Tuesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of The Rush 24 7 Podcast.
If this keeps going this way, we're going to lose it all, folks.
Unless some people get their head in the game and get focused on what really has happened here and what is happening.
It's all going to go down the tubes.
No, no, no, this silly debate whether it's a penalty or a tax.
Looking for silver linings.
What the heck does it matter?
All of that's irrelevant.
They got Romney's guy going on MSNBC saying, no, no, no, no.
We don't think what the court said is a tax, it's uh it's a penalty.
This is the guy who uh made the statement about well, you know, our policies are etch a sketch.
You know, we got an extra sketch for the campaign and we erase it, and Eric Eric Fernstrom is his name.
The RNC chairman just put this out.
The individual mandate is not a tax, because he's got a he's gotta stay uh uh in sync with Romney.
Romney, I I don't know why people are so upset about this.
We warned everybody that Romney is vulnerability is is Romney care.
And you know, Romney and Fernstrom are out there saying they disagree with the court.
This isn't a tax.
It's uh it says it's a penalty because Romney doesn't want it said about Romney care that what he imposed was a tax.
So the RNC has to go along with this.
The individual mandate's not a tax, but we're gonna call it that anyway, he says.
The chairman of Republican National Committee said the individual mandate's not a tax, but the Republicans are gonna call it that anyway.
You're wasting your time talking about whether it's a penalty or a tax.
Greetings, folks.
How are you?
Rush Limbaugh here behind the golden EIB microphone, telephone number if you want to be on the program 800-282-288-2, and the email address L Rushball at EI need uh EIB net.com.
I really are too.
But the bottom line is that most of you are getting a little annoyed and fed up at this Republican argument over whether it's a tax or whether it's a penalty, uh, or wow, there's some silver linings in this.
We are gonna have to get focused on the disaster that this Supreme Court ruling is, and we're gonna have to admit it, and the sooner the better.
Because this is ball game.
This changes this country forever and for the worse.
There is nothing positive or good in Obamacare.
There's nothing in it.
I don't care if you want to keep your kid on your policy to 26 pre existing condition, those two things are not worth the accompanying transformation and destruction of what has been known as the United States of America.
Well, then what would you do, Mr. Limboy if you don't want people focusing on whether it's a penalty or what I've been doing the last two days, but it's not about me.
Expose the law.
But you're saying we did that.
Yeah.
We did do it.
And we have to keep doing it because we've got one chance left in November.
The point has to be what this country is going to become.
Not whether this is a tax or a penalty so that Republican consultants can guide candidates to winning elections.
That's not what this is about.
This is about real substance.
A disastrous Obamacare decision.
And apparently it hasn't sunk in yet in the Republican establishment.
outrageously bad this is.
There are no silver linings in it.
There's no great investment in freedom or individual democracy limiting the commerce clause.
That That is a side show, and it misses and distracts from what we ought to be focused on.
You can say it's a tax, on it, but but that that's that's minuscule compared to what we need to be saying about it.
Just as before the Supreme Court ruled, nothing has changed in terms of what this legislation is.
The court didn't change a thing.
It's still Obamacare.
It's still gonna force everybody into inferior health care services at a higher price.
It still undermines the Constitution.
It is long lines.
It is red tape.
It's delays in care, its denials of coverage, less cutting-edge drugs, less money for read for investment into innovation.
It depletes Medicare.
It forces young people to pay into another entitlement they will rarely use.
The key to this is explaining to people why this law is so bad from a health care perspective.
That's what this is about.
The people of this country are going to have to be told what this bill is, what survives the substance of it.
And just as before the court ruled.
As I say, folks, it's destroying the greatest health care system in the world.
People don't want government-run health care because it forces them into an inferior system.
And the people who don't know any better need to be saved from themselves.
The young, the ignorant, the people who don't know what's a what's ahead of them need to be saved from themselves and protected.
It is worth the effort.
It will resonate.
It isn't resonating now, but it will resonate if it's done right.
People do not want government-run health care.
It forces them into an inferior system.
Everybody who knows anything about this bill knows that.
The Tea Party, people have studied it, the reason the 2010 midterms happened is not because there was a debate over taxes or penalties or what have you.
It's because they didn't like what's in the bill.
They didn't like what's ahead of them for their country, for their children, for their grandchildren, for their own health care.
They don't like it, and nothing's changed about that.
Not one thing.
Obamacare, and he doesn't even know what's in it.
And he doesn't care.
The Democrats don't care specifically.
We're the only ones that do.
This legislation is going to it's going to be an anathema to individual freedom and liberty.
This will deny people choices.
It will deny people services, medical services, medical choices.
In the meantime, we've got people running around trying to build up John Roberts to see to some kind of principled brilliance hidden to sabotage the Democrats somewhere down the road in the future, or that there's some great political opportunity here.
At least we limited the Commerce Clause.
At least we limited the Commerce Clause.
The Commerce Clause is still being abused by the government.
Nothing's been done to change that.
Another constitutional provision is violated.
There's a great test here, and it's called original intent.
And all you need to do is ask yourself a simple question.
Go back and pretend you could bring back to life at this moment in time any of the founders.
Is this what you had in mind?
And you would not get one yes.
Is this what you had in mind when you drafted the Constitution?
Is this what you had in mind when you're writing the Federalist Papers to explain it all?
Is this what you had in mind with the Declaration of Independence?
Is this and not one of them?
And I can hear the poo-poos now.
But Mr. Limbaud, that's exactly the point.
The founding father, they're old, they're antique, their time is past, it's a new age.
And that's where everybody who thinks that is wrong.
The brilliance of the United States Constitution is its timeliness.
Or timelessness, actually, I should say.
It applies to the human condition until eternity.
Because it is a document devoted to maintaining, proclaiming and maintaining the freedom and liberty of the individual.
It's the greatest document of liberty and freedom ever written by human beings.
And it is a target.
And it has just been dealt a very severe blow.
And to sit here and argue over whether what remains because of the Supreme Court ruling is a tax or a penalty is to lose the argument in November.
What are we left with after all of that?
Tax penalty.
Roberts brilliantly left a left a secret plan for us in there.
It'll manifest in years down the road.
What are we left with?
We're left with Obamacare.
We have Obamacare.
It's intact every bit as much as it was.
Well, I need to retract that because there is something meaty in there regarding the states and the opt-out, which I'm going to take some time to explain with the help of Michael Tanner and a piece he's from the Cato Institute.
We are left with Obamacare, and we are left with a damaged constitution.
And we have a Republican leadership that's clueless in how to slow any of this down.
And meanwhile, the Constitution has been damaged again.
And I think, folks, this is why Republicans and conservatives make no progress in pushing back massive government.
We don't live in Realville.
Well, they don't live in Realville.
They refuse to accept the reality of what's going on.
And so they try to dress it up.
They look for silver linings.
We're so used to defeat that we try to find a morsel somewhere in the defeat that'll make us feel somewhat comfortable and secure.
In the midst of huge defeat.
What we need to do, and what everybody in that town needs to do is get fired up and furious even and push back and find ways to win and beat this thing back into submission.
Because I don't care what John Roberts said.
I don't care what Romney's guy says, and I don't care what the argument ends up determining whether it's a tax or a penalty.
What are we going to end up with?
We're going to end up with massive transfers of wealth from individuals to the government, individual patients, doctors, hospitals, nurses, drug companies.
It will smother innovation, which is the key to our medical system.
It'll turn our health care system into a federal DMV-like program.
All around us.
All around us is evidence the government cannot administer anything, much less something this monstrous and big.
Despite that, people want to put all their faith and all of their hope...
In the notion that the government, populated now by a bunch of people who've never spent a day in the real world, in the private sector.
They know better.
They have all the answers.
They're the ones who can fix what's wrong while we're in the midst of watching and living with them, breaking everything.
We want to say they're the ones to fix it.
It's insane.
We need to move the media out of Washington.
The media needs to go to Colorado and live around the fires.
They need to go to Mexico or Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas and live near the border.
They need a different perspective on life.
The entire media, all of it, left, right, centered, needed to get them out of Washington.
That's not the real world, but it is to them, and that's where whether it's a tax or a penalty is the most important thing.
Whether it's a tax or a penalty.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude, that's how we're gonna win this election.
We're gonna call it a tax.
Nobody wants to pay taxes.
I have a clue for nobody wants this, and it became constitutional.
Fighting this is gonna require much more than it looks like people are willing to engage in right now.
But Mr. Limbaugh, Mr. Limbaugh, what about the nothing that your base is so fired up?
Yeah.
You know, my answer to that is.
Our base is already fired up.
Our base has been fired up.
And they've been fired up since Obama's election and the first stimulus bill.
And they showed how fired up they are with the creation of Tea Party in the 2010 midterms.
The base is fired up.
The base is awaiting leadership.
The base does not want to hear the Senate majority leader say, I don't think we can do this.
The base doesn't want to hear it's more going on here than I think people realize tearing this thing apart.
It's not what people want to hear.
Our base doesn't need to be fired up anymore.
What the base wants is the Constitution saved.
They want Obamacare killed.
Looking at this through the traditional political prism is going to guarantee the same outcome that we've been used to for the last number of years.
Status quo stays the same.
The base, the Tea Party, other conservatives, we didn't need this decision to inform us about how dire our situation is.
We knew it before going into this, and that's why the decision was so important to us.
We don't need this to be fired up.
I hear people talking, our base are really fired up.
We gotta make sure it's a tax.
It's incoherence.
It's it's willingly ignoring the substance of this.
Wish I didn't have to take a break, but I have to take a break.
If I've heard this once, I've heard this a thousand times.
Well, this decision throws it back into the legislative arena.
Really?
You know, if something's unconstitutional.
The legislative and presidential branches have violated the Constitution.
It's the role of the judiciary to uphold the Constitution, not throw it back to the corrupt bunch that created it in the first place.
Where's the win-win and net?
Where is the silver lining?
You're throwing it back to the corrupt party that gave us this in the first place.
Back after this.
Don't go away.
There's a CNN poll that's out, ladies and gentlemen.
And you know what it says?
Says the Supreme Court decision has had no impact on the presidential race so far, particularly among people under 40.
Supreme Court case, no impact.
And that's probably right.
Because we're busy arguing semantics.
Tax, penalty, silver lining.
Rather than exposing what Obamacare does to every American using health care, and every American is going to use it.
The enormous damage to the Constitution.
So we claim it's a great political opportunity.
And what do we do?
We keep repeating it's a great political opportunity.
How about we attack the law in every detail in all of its fullness?
How about we attack the decision without making ridiculous claims of silver linings?
It throws it back to the legislative arena.
It does.
Did the court throw abortion back to the legislative branch?
Did the court throw issues about contraceptives back to the people?
Did the courts throw the issue of illegal aliens back to the legislative branch?
The court throw greenhouse gases and camp and trade back to the legislative.
My point, after every court decision, does it does it go back to the legislature?
No.
It holds.
It stays.
Obamacare was upheld.
Obamacare is the law of the way.
I don't think people have had apparently it hasn't sunk in yet.
Oh, I'm talking about the wizards on TV and the people in the New York Washington court.
I'm not talking about you, you know.
I'm throw it back to the legislative Roberts and his brilliance, and it's up for the people to decide.
The law of the land is now Obamacare.
Each branch of the federal government has a job to do, each supposed to abide by the Constitution.
To say that Roberts threw it to the Congress, and this is somehow a good thing when Congress violated the Constitution putting it together in the first place.
That's to say that the four great dissenters had it wrong.
But they were right.
Roberts was wrong.
We throw it back to the corrupt institution that gave us this corrupt law, and that's a win.
And we're back, Rush Limbaugh with Openline Friday on Tuesday.
Whatever you want to talk about today is fine.
Have at it.
Telephone number 800 282-2882.
Email address L Rushbaugh at EIBNet.com.
Folks, uh, look.
We lost a huge case in the Supreme Court.
There is no silver lining.
What now has to happen is we regroup.
We have to inform as many fellow citizens as possible.
What is in store for them?
Their freedom, their health care, their lives, the lives of their children and grandchildren.
If this stands.
And we have to stop deluding ourselves if we are to beat this back.
We can fight to repeal Obamacare.
And we must.
But we have to win the next election big.
And we can't we can't tolerate any Republican capitulating in advance of this fight or accepting any aspect of Obama.
Folks, I'm sorry.
Realville.
It's all gotta go.
This business, I like keeping my kid on preexisting.
We're not even talking about insurance if we're going to give people with preexisting conditions insurance.
We can deal with those two things separately and in a much smaller way after we toss this whole thing.
We've got to toss the whole thing.
We don't need 2,700 pages constitutional altering, life-altering changes to our freedom and liberty for those two small little things that can be fixed individually by themselves.
Same thing with the uninsured.
If Chief Justice Roberts had wanted to throw this back to Congress, you know what he would have done?
He would have repealed it.
And then he would have said, if you really want it, you go back and do it right.
If he had been paying attention to the Constitution.
If he really wanted to throw this back to the legislative branch where the elected representatives of the people take care of this, he would have repealed it, and he would have said to the elected representatives of the people, you presented us with an unconstitutional bill, and none of it stands, and you go back and you fix it.
Instead, he upheld it.
I don't care how, penalty, tax, what...
He upheld it.
It's the law of the land.
And now we're told there's a silver lining.
We've got to go in.
And that's the way it ought to be anyway, Russia.
People ought to be.
Well, we're dealing with corruption.
Everywhere we turn in Washington, D.C. And we're dealing in some people with an attitude that's less than fully developed and fully committed to overturning this and repealing it.
Chief Justice Roberts upheld this.
He didn't throw it back to the legislative branch to the elected representatives of the people.
Could do it again.
He upheld it.
It is the law of the land.
The damage.
The damage that was done to the Constitution cannot be fixed by repealing Obamacare.
That's going to stand no matter what we end up doing with Obamacare.
Chief Justice Roberts and the four other liberal activists on the court have blown yet another giant hole through the Constitution.
How do we fix that?
Well, there's a way.
There's a way we insist on originalists being nominated to the court, period.
But that is for another time.
He doesn't need to comment on any case when he's nominated any prospective judge.
But he's got to tell us who he is, or she is.
We have our work cut out for us, and these semantic games and distractions, self-delusions create confusion and not going to get us anywhere.
Again, CNN poll.
Supreme Court decision had no impact on the presidential race so far.
That's right.
Well, we're too busy arguing semantics.
It's a tax or it's a penalty.
Great political opportunity.
The truth is the law was upheld and everybody's screwed.
Biggest problem we have is that nobody's going to get screwed till starting in 2014 or 2015.
That's when the screw job implements.
Nobody's going to get screwed between now and the election.
That's our biggest problem.
Everything we're going to be warning people about is not going to be happening.
That's a big, big job.
You got, you're going to have rationing.
We're going to have price controls.
We're going to have red tape.
Government control.
We're all going to end up being treated shabbily, except for the rich.
The rich will still have direct pay medical care.
Don't care what you think.
You think we're all going to be equally miserable in this.
You think we're all going to be equally penalized, equally in line or what no, nope.
The rich are still going to get like just like they do in Europe, just like they do in Cuba, just like wherever there is single-payer socialized medicine, the rich don't play according to those rules.
Because money talks.
It's going to be that way here.
The line that exists between us and them, the other side, could not be more clear.
If our side would just stop blurring it.
This thing is against, goes against everything anybody who says they're conservative believes in, down to the smallest amoeba in their body.
And if they're not willing to say so, then they're not going to be worth anything in this fight.
There's not one genuine real, true conservative who wants any part of this in any way, shape, manner, or form.
And certainly nobody who reveres and loves the Constitution wants any part of it.
But they won in court.
Waiting to surprise us all someday down the road that Justice Roberts snuck in there because he's really crafty and smart and really ended up screwing the Democrats, Rush, and you just went.
There's no such thing in this bill that does that.
Obamacare stands.
It is the law of the land.
The Constitution was turned on its head.
I think there's some people in denial.
I think there's some people who really think this hasn't happened yet.
And the election in November.
That's that's when it's really gonna be cemented rush as whether it's happened or not.
Well, not necessarily.
We could win the House, win the Senate, win the White House.
And then if there's still people around who don't think we can get rid of it.
I don't want to be around when that happens.
Because that's not what the people who are going to vote for Republicans in November are going to want to hear from Republicans in January.
Thank you.
Obamacare stands.
It's the law of the land.
The Constitution was turned on its head, and we cannot address this, and we cannot rally more people to our cause if we continue to delude ourselves that there's a silver lining, or that we can turn it all back by convincing people it's the big tax.
I mean, we can do that, that's fine, but it's it's it's it's to it's to miss the point.
To talk about whether it's a tax or a penalty is nothing more than being granted the opportunity to avoid the substance.
Well making it look like you're devoted to the substance.
We cannot defeat Obamacare if we do not explain how it destroys the current health care system and the individual.
You saw what they asked for.
They asked for a mandate that would allow them to tell us what we have to buy or don't buy and penalize this taxes, whatever.
Forget the penalty, forget the tax.
Think about just that.
And then take a look at the news of the day.
Okay, what the AP has a story of the fires in Colorado and these high temperatures prove global warming.
Prove it.
Prove it.
What do these wackos say about all this?
It's our fault.
They, if this law stands, are going to have the power to dictate every aspect of your life they want to to make sure these fires never happen again, quote unquote.
Or the temperatures never go up again.
And you know how lunatic they are.
If they believe that you eating a big Mac is leading to fires and high temperatures, then they are going to find a way to make sure that you don't.
Or if they conclude that eating a big Mac adds an additional dollar fifty to your health care costs every month, and we can't afford the buck fifty.
They're going to tell you you can't have the big Mac.
I'm not exaggerating, and that's chump change compared to the power they're going to have with this.
And it stands.
It was just declared constitutional.
Individual choice is going to go by the wayside.
Individual health decisions are going to go by the wayside.
We you've heard the audio soundbite, Obama telling a woman that his government would not allow her mother to live.
I still to this day cannot believe that the country has become that in my lifetime.
I was watching a primetime show on ABC, and a woman, the fact that she's even asking the question sent me into a tailspin that a citizen of the United States actually had to ask the president.
My mother is 102, and it's a really great will to live...
Got a lot of spunk, but she needs a pacemaker.
Well, Obama said, I don't think we can factor decisions like that into whether or not your mom get a pacemaker.
Maybe it'd be better just to give her a pill and I said, This is the United States America.
And nobody thought that there was anything unusual about that.
A citizen essentially asking the president, will you let my mother live?
And he said no.
And we moved on to the next question.
The United States, folks, tip of the iceberg.
We've spent two years detailing what's in the health care bill, and you know it.
It's why you oppose it.
But I really as I listen to this whole thing being discussed on television, read various blogs.
It doesn't debating John Roberts right now is not the point.
Debating his decision whether it's a silver lining, whether it's a penalty or a tax.
That is a distraction.
I must take a brief time out.
We'll come back and continue with all the rest of the program right after this, folks.
Don't go away.
If they can tax us for not buying insurance, they can tax our carbon emissions.
Just take a special piece of legislation.
Nothing special, actually, because the Supreme Court has just broadened Congress's taxing power to be essentially limitless.
And there are no silver lining in that.
Now listen to a couple things Obama has said.
You've got to put daily events, the news of the day.
You have to put it in context with this decision, and then you have to associate everything you know about liberalism with this decision.
And you will fully understand the consequences.
Obama says we cannot drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times, and then just expect other countries are going to say, okay.
That's Barack Obama in May of 2008, after he had been.
No, he's still that's still a campaign.
Okay, so what's the big deal with that?
It tells us who he is.
He doesn't want the best of life to exist in the United States.
He doesn't want the highest standard of living in this country.
Because to him that's immoral and unjust.
What the rest of the world thinks is more important.
We can't drive our SUVs.
We can't eat as much as we want.
And we can't keep our homes at 72 degrees all the time.
Because the rest of the world is not just going to accept that.
Well, if this guy is the president and he's got a Congress that's corrupt, and a court willing to back him up on the exercise of dictatorial type powers.
How long do you think you're going to be driving an SUV?
How long do you or paying through the nose for it?
Another thing.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
It's just it'll bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.
January 17, 2008, Barack Obama, presidential candidate.
You want to know why West Virginians are not going to Democrat Convention?
There it is.
Their state is coal.
And Obama has promised he's going to put it out of business.
How?
By making it prohibitively expensive to do it.
That's authoritarianism, that's statism, and he now has the power to do this.
And even if he doesn't have the power, such as granting amnesty to a million people, he's still going to do it.
This is the reality what we're up against.
And have been for three and a half years.
Barack Obama to Latinos in October of 2010.
We're going to push our enemies, and we're going to reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us.
Yeah, he does that.
Thank you.
You and I know the stat of the status, the state of the solar industry in this country, do we not?
There is no solar industry.
It doesn't exist, right?
I mean, it's bankrupt.
Everybody gets into it.
Loses.
There's there's no real power being generated.
It's not helping these people in the DC area have lost their power, right?
So I'm reading this morning a tech blog about gadgets.
And there's this big long piece from this young kid on all the solar energy being created out there and how you can tap into it.
There isn't any.
This kid has been lied to his whole life, believes the lies, really thinks that there's all this brand new clean energy out there.
It's already there.
And he's excited.
There isn't going to be any more pollution.
Has no more awareness of the real world he lives in somebody's not yet born.
So we face a monumental task here.
It's one of education.
I gotta look at the clock.
I gotta go.
Quick break.
Don't go away, folks.
There's much more stream.
If you are on hold on the phones, I want you to stay there.
I'm gonna be getting the phone calls as soon as I can in the uh in the next hour since we're doing open line Friday on Tuesday today.
Sit tight.
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