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June 27, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 27, 2012, Wednesday, Hour #3
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The views expressed by the host on this program make more sense than anything anybody else says.
And there are many reasons for that.
Chief among them is that I am me.
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Now back to Tony in El Cajon, California.
You were a Reagan Republican.
You've switched to an independent.
You voted for Obama.
By the way, he's African-American.
You voted for Obama.
You're disappointed.
Obama squandered his presidency focusing on health care and neglecting the economy.
That's where we left off with you.
Well, let me correct just one thing.
I'm not African-American.
I'm a German-American.
I was born in Nuremberg, Germany.
I'm black.
My father was black.
My mother was born in the Virgin Islands.
But I've never been to Africa.
I'd love to go, but I'm not.
So, you know, I'm a black civil rights activist from the 60s.
I lived in the South and went through the colored-only signs.
Like I said, you and I are only a year off.
I'm a year younger than you.
And in the late 50s, en route to being stationed in Panama, my old man was in the Army for 30 years.
We lived in Jackson, Tennessee.
And I went through the colored-only signs.
And I got, you know, the racial thing down there, white people against black people.
It happened to me personally.
Happened to my mother.
So I understand all of that.
But for all of that, Rush, let's be real about something.
About a third of black folks are conservative.
Now, they were Abraham Lincoln supporters.
And I don't know what happened to the party.
I need to ask you a question about that.
If that's true, I'd like for you to be right about that.
But how then does the Democrat candidate always end up with 90% or more of the black vote?
Well, now what we're talking about, we're talking about the old Jesse Jackson-old Al Sharpton times.
Now, let me show you what the difference is.
Okay.
For all the years, the reason I changed from being a Democrat, as you know, most people are whatever their parents are.
And the reason I changed from being a Democrat was when I realized that the Democratic Party and when they put their people in as president, they never did anything for black folks.
I mean, well, okay, Kennedy did a lot.
But I'm talking about in the political structure itself, they never put black people in charge of anything.
Ron Brown got as high as anybody because he became Secretary of Commerce when he got killed in an airplane crash.
But look at the record of the Republican Party.
Ronald Reagan took a black man and made him chief of staff of the armed forces and then national security advisor.
That man was Colin Powell.
Now, that man is spotless.
If he had run instead of Barack Obama, the entire nation would have voted for him.
He's a titular head of the Republican Party.
Exactly.
But, you know, like I said, you and I, we're in our 60s.
There was only one black guy running that stood a chance based on what he said.
He talked about change.
He talked about hope.
He started sounding like Lincoln.
It's okay.
We all jumped in.
But do you remember that woman that said, I'm getting tired of defending you?
I mean, it's on YouTube video.
Everything that you got on the world now is on YouTube.
You can go back and listen to everybody's lips.
No longer just have to watch the news channels.
You can go to YouTube and find it.
Anyway, that's what started it.
And so I joined the Republican Party and I wrote a letter to Ronald Reagan.
Reagan wrote me back.
It got in the news in LA.
I was on the front pages of newspapers in LA.
And the next day I went to work and lost with a bunch of black friends.
That's cool.
That's very cool.
But what I told him in my letter was that I believed in him because the man was convinced of what he spoke.
And at that time, it was anti-communism.
It was getting the country back together.
It was putting America's a shining city on the hill.
And see, a president has got to sound like that.
So then we come down to the Bushes.
And who did the Bushes, what did the Bushes do?
They put, okay.
I went with you with Clinton.
Clinton was the wrong guy to be the president at the time.
And that's when I really started listening to your program.
That'll bring me to my third point here in just a second.
But I believed what you were saying about Clinton.
And then Bush came in, and Bush, Reagan came in.
Bush came in as president, and Bush put Colin Powell further into the structure as National Security Advisor.
And then George W. made him second state.
Now, come on.
That's the fourth position in the Constitution that takes over if the top three people should die.
And then Condoleezza Rice after that?
And then Condoleezza Rice, the first and only black woman that's been the highest one in this governmental structure.
Rush, if McCain had taken Condoleezza Rice or Snow and run with them instead of Palin, McCain would have had this locked up, especially with Rice, because black folks were saying, hmm, do we want to vote for a black woman or we want to vote for a black guy?
You think anybody was going to beat Obama in 2008, coming off what the media had done with the war in Iraq to convince everybody that the world hated us because of Bush?
Well, yeah, but, you know, there wasn't that much love for McCain in the first place.
I know.
But there was a lot of love for hope and change.
There was a lot of love for hope and change and, you know, what Obama was selling.
Exactly.
And see, that's what we bought into it.
But let's understand something.
The Civil Rights Day is a long in the tooth.
There's still racism in America, to be sure, but younger people aren't paying attention to Jackson and Sharpton in the past.
You know, Jackson had that out-of-wedlock birth.
Sharpton got tied up in that Tawana brawl, and he runs out there.
He was down there at the La Crosse people thing.
And he's gotten real tainted by hanging out with the wrong folks.
And he's trying to back from his very vociferous anti-white position that used to be in the past.
Now, let's understand something.
Even Malcolm X, before he died, said, listen, you know, white people ain't devils.
He found out what the true Muslim movement was when he went to Mecca.
And of course, black folks said, well, at least the Nation of Islam said, you know what, we can't have this.
We got to have black unity, black power.
So we need to get rid of him.
And Malcolm is gone.
By the way, speaking of Reverend Sharpton, he said he has secret activities planned for the congressional vote on holding Eric Holder in contempt.
But you know what?
Nobody's listening to that rush.
I mean, Corey Booker got out there, and he's a moderate black man.
You got Shelby Steele out there.
You got Alan Keyes that are out there.
You got Colin Powell out there.
About one-third of black folks, it ain't generally known.
But about one-third of black folks are conservative.
Now, they don't agree with racist.
I don't agree with racist.
I don't want a cop stopping me because, you know, I'm light-skinned black dude driving the street.
Okay, we understand all of that.
But there's a larger issue here, and that's the economy of the United States.
That's the excellence of the United States on this planet.
The country that put the first man on the moon.
You can go to YouTube, and there's a video there about B-29s.
It was on the Discovery Channel, I guess.
Just watched it last night.
They're showing pictures of this thing being built and its whole history.
Do you know there were black women building the B29?
I didn't know that.
Yeah, but they never let any of them fly one.
Well, they didn't let women do much back in those days.
So we ain't going to go there because you already got a problem with some of your women listening.
But the important fact is that black people, black people are not a monolithic brand.
But they are.
The presidential race, Tony, they are.
Monolithic is 90, 92%.
Arthur Davis, Congressman just quit.
Yeah.
Okay.
He gave a good reason.
And he's from Alabama.
Come on.
That's as far south as you can get.
All right.
So what do you think is going to happen on the mandate?
Oh, the mandate, the mandate's going to get struck down.
The mandate's going to get struck down.
The rest of the laws stand.
All right.
But, Rush, let me, let me, let me, because I can't take up all your time.
I want to come down to the final point, which is important to me.
I got to give you personal thanks.
Personal thanks, because you're the first public person to personally voice the suggestion to work for yourself rather than somebody else.
Remember when you were talking with the guy about baking cookies and whatnot?
Yeah, the bake sale guy.
You discussed your personal success and failures from the time you were on a baseball team staff member.
And one of the other things that you did was that you taught me that there's always two things, and which I taught my kids.
I got three daughters.
They're all grown out of college, kids and a whole bit.
But you said there were two things, and it began when you discussed how an increase, when they say they're making a cut in the budget, it's not actually an actual cut in what they're spending, it's a cut in what they're planning to spend.
Baseline budgeting.
Yeah.
You remember that.
I've listened to you when you all, and the same thing you've done today, same thing you do all the time.
You say, listen, there's always two things.
If you go down the street and you see a bunch of apartments for rent, there's two things.
The obvious thing is that there's apartments for rent.
But the second thing is there's a reason those apartments are rent.
Maybe they got roaches, maybe they got gangs, maybe they got crime, maybe they got fireheads, whatever.
You got to pay attention, not to just what you can see, but you got to pay attention to what you're not seeing.
You got to pay attention to the second thing that is so blatantly obvious, but you can't see past it.
It's like, you remember Weekly Reader used to be think harder on that last page when we were in school in elementary school?
Yeah, I remember it.
I never could figure that out because I didn't know how to think of two things.
And so that's what you've taught me.
Well, I really thank you for that.
Well, you're more than welcome.
I really appreciate it.
You're fascinating.
Is Obama going to win reelection, do you think, or not?
No, I don't think so.
Now, you know what?
Unfortunately, the Republicans got Romney and Romney's, he's like a weather vane, whichever way the wind is going.
I wish Chris Christie would run.
I really do.
Well, he's back in the mix as the Veep.
And the wind is not going to move Chris Christie.
If you put Chris Christie on the ticket for the general, I think you got it made.
All right.
Now, last thing, Rush, I want to thank you for your bumper music because you've always played some of my favorite music.
I wish you well.
God love you.
God bless you.
Tony, hang on.
I want to send you an iPad.
I got to send you an EIB engraved iPad.
So I want you to hang on.
Snerdly will get your address so we can FedEx it out to you so you'll have it tomorrow, okay?
Take good care of yourself.
I will you do the same.
That's Tony from El Cajon, California.
We'll be back after this.
Don't hang up, Tony.
I thank Tony from El Cajon for holding on through the break at the top of the hour.
Welcome back, Rush Limbaugh, where we are having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have, while the rest of the media world is chewing its fingernails off about the Supreme Court decision that's coming down tomorrow.
We are having fun.
And by the way, Joe Biden is not finished.
Get this.
Middle-class Joe Biden just said that the state of the economy is a depression for millions and millions of Americans.
This is Obama's vice president.
Joe middle-class Biden is out there telling people that this is a depression.
Do you think Obama likes hearing that?
Do you think the Democrats like that the vice president is running around?
And here's what he did.
And he's plagiarizing Reagan.
You'll recognize this.
He was, let's see, where was he today?
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure where he was.
But here's what he said.
He said the unemployed are really in.
He's in Dubuque.
He's in Dubuque, Iowa.
He said, the unemployed are really in trouble.
My grandpop used to say from scratch, he said, Joey, the guy in Dunmore, the next town over, when the guy in Dunmore is out of work, it's an economic slowdown.
When your brother-in-law is out of work, it's a recession.
When you're out of work, Joey, it's a depression.
Well, it's a depression for millions and millions of Americans.
Now, he left out Reagan's punchline.
The Reagan joke goes, recession is when your neighbor loses a job.
Depression is when you lose yours.
And recovery is when Jimmy Carter loses his.
That's what Reagan's joke was.
Of course, Biden, middle-class Joe, left out the punchline.
Recovery is when Obama loses his job.
But the vice president is running around telling that for millions of Americans, it's a depression.
Not a recession.
What happened to the summer of recovery?
You know, if we keep Biden talking long enough, he is going to tell us who called Obama from the Supreme Court and tipped him off on the decision tomorrow.
You people in Dubuque, keep him talking.
Keep asking questions.
Wherever Biden goes from Dubuque, follow him.
Keep asking questions.
In fact, if any of you out there are listening to me now where Biden, if somebody ask him, does Obama know what the Supreme Court ruling tomorrow is?
As much as he's talking, he might admit it.
Here's Sharon in Fort Madison, Iowa.
Great to have you on the program, Sharon.
Hi.
Hey, Rush.
How are you?
Very good.
Thank you.
Doesn't the health care law have a non-severability clause in it?
Oh, severability.
Severability.
Yeah.
Come on, Brain.
Come in my mental block on what the separability.
Yeah, I know it does, but I'm trying to think how they argued it.
No, wait a minute.
It doesn't.
Do you remember that's that's they left it out.
They did the the they forgot to put it in where the court can't separate.
My memory is that that's what do you what is your question about it, Sharon?
Right.
So it says you can't sever it.
You can't sever the individual mandate, right?
Yeah, that's what I think.
Correctly, it should stand or fall.
We should not even be talking about the option of severing the individual mandate because it explicitly says it can't be.
So why are we even talking about it?
I don't, well, because if you recall during oral arguments, Scalia said in jest, but he was also trying to mock the government lawyers.
What do you want us to do?
Do you want to go line by line?
You want us to write this bill?
And the implication was that the court didn't want any part of that, but that they would prove this part and throw that part out, keep that part.
But they left the severability clause out of it.
Some people say it was accidentally.
Some people say it was intentional so that the court would have to throw out the whole thing.
The theory was, again, among the smart people, in quotes, the smart people, that the Democrats left severability out because they were rolling a diet that the court would no way throw the whole thing out.
No court would ever treat a president that way.
No court would ever say that his whole bill is unconstitutional.
That separation of powers would prevent him from doing that.
Other arguments say that they just accidentally forgot about it.
They forgot to put because severability is normally in major pieces of legislation, which folks, what that means is if a portion of a piece of legislation is ruled unconstitutional, the rest can stand.
But if they don't put that in there, this is Sharon's point.
If they don't put the severability clause in it, it means that one part of it goes, it all goes.
And that's your question, right?
What are we talking about here?
Exactly.
You know, do we have a written constitution?
Do we have a written law that is going to stand or fall?
And again, obviously it should fall.
But if they uphold parts of it, it's an activist court, you know, ignoring the law and the Constitution again.
Yeah.
I know.
Well, see, that's the answer to the question.
Even though there's no severability in there, the court could decide to keep certain things that throw out the mandate.
I, again, in the real world, the mandate is what pays for this bill.
If that goes, there's no funding mechanism, no primary funding mechanism.
Can I ask you one more question?
Yeah.
What do you think true conservative activists or Tea Party patriots will do if the law is upheld, even parts of it?
I think they'll get depressed at first and they'll think of just chucking all of this and protecting themselves as best they can from government and their private lives.
And after a while, they'll get fired up more than they've ever been to get rid of as many Democrats as they can.
Oh, I'd say absolutely.
But I think on an individual level, when it comes to filing taxes next year, do you have any insight, advice into that?
Because isn't there the abortion surcharge in there?
You know, will this take effect next spring when people file their taxes?
I would say about that.
And I'm not saying this in complete gist.
If President Obama can choose which laws he wants to obey and not, if President Obama can simply tell Arizona go to hell after the courts ruled eight to nothing in favor of the stop and check law, if Obama can send them and say, screw you, you can stop them all you want.
We're not helping you.
You're on your own and we're going to sue your ass.
Then why do we have to pay taxes?
Yeah, I think there's not going to be enough IRS agents to track down everyone who will refuse to participate in the abortion surcharge or fine or however you want to call it.
Yeah.
Well, believe me, when you're talking Tea Party people, you're talking people that are intimately informed on this and are aware of that abortion surcharge.
But that's why I'm cautioning people today, Sarah, that whatever the ruling is tomorrow is by no means over.
And if the court upholds the whole thing, there's going to be an election in November that will further decide this.
So just hang in and we'll be back.
All right, we have Biden from Dubuque, Iowa on the Depression business coming up.
It's audio sound by 24, Mike.
But first, I want to go back, the severability thing.
You remember the name Roger Vinson, federal judge, believe in Pensacola.
Regardless, he's up there in the Gulf somewhere.
Back in January of 2011, federal judge Roger Vinson ruled that the individual mandate provision violated the Constitution by regulating economic inactivity.
Meaning, if Congress can force you to buy something, they can also regulate what you don't buy.
They're regulating what you're not buying.
He said, you can't do that.
He said the mandate violated the Constitution by regulating economic inactivity.
And then Roger Vinson, the federal judge, said, as the mandate is not severable, he ruled the entire statute was unconstitutional.
Roger Vinson was one of the first federal judges to rule on this, and he ruled the whole thing was unconstitutional because there was no severability clause, meaning you couldn't separate the mandate from other aspects of the bill.
The only ruling we've had on whether the mandate is severable has said that it is not.
Vinson is a judge, U.S. District Court, Northern Florida, which is Pensacola.
Now, other federal judges have had entirely different rulings, different opinions, which is why this thing's ended up at the Supreme Court.
But his ruling was specifically on the fact that there was no severability clause in there.
It's exactly as our caller Sharon was pointing out.
It is odd that nobody's talking about it.
I would throw that in, include myself in that.
It is odd that I, El Rushbow, forgot about that.
Because the severability, and I remember it being discussed in oral arguments.
Okay, here's Biden this afternoon at a campaign event in Dubuque, Iowa.
The unemployed are really in trouble.
My grandpop used to say from Scranton, he said, Joey, when the guy in Dunmore, the next town over, when the guy in Dunmore is out of work, it's an economic slowdown.
When your brother-in-law is out of work, it's a recession.
When you're out of work, it's a depression.
It's a depression for millions and millions of Americans.
Yeah, yeah, and you guys are in charge.
I am convinced.
I'm convinced that Joey, middle-class Joe, has heard and believes that Obama wants to replace him.
And that's what this is all about.
This is not an isolated incident.
Biden's out there, he's flapping his gums on a whole bunch of stuff.
And it's a warning, I think.
You get rid of me and there's more of this to come.
You get rid of, you let me know you're not getting rid of me and this stuff stops.
It's only June.
But if you get rid of me, I got more of this in my arsenal.
That could be what middle-class Joe is saying to Obama and the Democrats.
This guy, Biden is almost as much of a wrecker as Bill Clinton.
Clinton wrecked homes.
This guy's wrecking Obama.
Who's next?
Where are we going?
El Segundo, California.
This is Rom, and it's great to have you on the program.
Hello, sir.
Thank you, sir.
It is a pleasure and honor to be speaking with the real President of the United States.
No, no, America's real anchor man.
Well, you're the president.
I can't raise your taxes yet or tell Arizona to go to hell.
Well, you wouldn't raise my taxes.
No, I would not.
You're right.
Thank you, sir.
And I believe that the mandate is going down in flames.
But I want to take opposition with you in terms of the enthusiasm that the audience and the conservatives would have if indeed it was upheld.
I believe that it would immediately spark protest.
This is a country that does not like being dictated to.
It's people who do not like to be told what to do.
And this is the power to self-define the sense of being free in this country.
If this health care mandate is upheld, then you are going to see a great amount of enthusiasm and anger towards the liberals, towards Obama, towards the Supreme Court.
And so I don't believe that there is going to be a deflation of enthusiasm.
Ultimately, I agree with you.
I hope you're right.
I'm just thinking the initial reaction among some people is going to be to throw our hands up and say, what the hell?
I mean, if we've got a Supreme Court who's got one job as it's evolved to determine whether something's constitutional, this clearly isn't.
We wouldn't even be here if everybody paid fealty to the Constitution.
We wouldn't even be here if Congress, if the White House cared about the Constitution.
And that's what you and everybody knows.
And if the court upholds this, you're right, there's going to be all kinds of anger, but there will be people.
You protest the Supreme Court all day.
We don't even know if they're there.
Right.
They got an underground garage.
Nobody knows when they leave, when they arrive, how they get there protesting at the court.
They're going to do anything.
I think the people are going to be supremely angry.
They may go to war.
We've gone to war to protect our freedom a number of times.
And they will.
They will verbalize their displeasure vehemently, and this country will survive under a dictatorship that needs to be destroyed.
Thank you, Rush, very much.
Okay, Rom.
I appreciate the call.
Thank you.
Here's Patty in Franklin, Indiana on the EIB network.
Hi.
Greetings, Rush.
Lovely to talk to you today.
Thank you very much.
Same here.
I just had something I wanted to talk about.
I can't believe that you, El Rushbo the Great, are not talking about it.
The point is that Obamacare still leaves some people uninsured.
Is that correct?
Oh.
That's what I've heard.
There's still a small percentage of people that will not.
Yes, it does.
You're right.
I remember pointing that out at some point in all.
Yes.
Okay.
So we have billions for Obamacare.
There's still a percentage of people that are going to be uninsured.
And so then the current plan that we have, it's whether it's Medicare, Medicaid, there's a percentage being uninsured that can't afford it and maybe deserve it, right?
So I think what we should do is talk about how many people, what's the net gain of people that will be insured within the world.
The way to look at this, this, I remember expressly, the number of Americans who do not have health insurance who want it is somewhere along the lines of 10 to 12 million.
This number of, and it keeps floating, 30 million, 40 million that don't have health insurance.
There's a lot of people in there that choose not to.
They're young.
They don't want to spend the money and they'd rather go out and buy a plasma or an iPhone or what have you.
Right.
The number who want it, who don't have it, is 10 million.
And I remember making the point, we're doing all of this for 10 million people.
Right.
We should put a price tag on it.
And you know what?
Well, we could do this for the cost of the food stamp program.
Oh, don't even get me started on the food stamp program.
Oh, okay.
But the health care bill is not about health care.
The health care bill is about the expansion of government and the total loss of freedom.
Once the federal government has control of your health care, that means they can dictate your behavior.
That's what it's about.
That's why the Democrats want this.
It's not, as Pelosi said after it passed, affordable health, affordable health care for America.
It's not about that.
It's about dictatorial control over people's lives.
Right.
And you know what?
Let me tell you something.
The reason that your popularity is so mysterious to the liberals is because people listen to you.
I remember when my husband were driving down the road, we were on our way to work.
We stumbled upon you and we're like, who is this guy?
He's saying what we've been saying forever.
And it's shocking.
The reason that people like you and your popularity is strong and stable is because you're saying what we are thinking.
The same thing with the Tea Party.
The Tea Party is a mystery to the libs.
They don't understand it.
They think that it's a bunch of toothless gun huggers and that it, you know, because we're not out in the street beating our chest, that we've gone away.
And that's just not the way it is.
They know what the Tea Party is, is why it scares them.
No.
They purposely mischaracterize who the Tea Party is publicly and in the media as a means of discrediting and impugning reputations and character for the rest of the American people to decide.
But they know.
That's what scares them about the Tea Party.
They know the Tea Party's effervescent and bubbled up from the grassroots, that it doesn't have a leader, that is not inspired by some Svengali or Pied Piper, that this is real and genuine.
And that's why they're so afraid of it.
And I look, you have conveyed, you have uncovered the secret when this program started.
The left thinks I'm a Pied Piper, that you're a bunch of my numb robots, and you sit around eagerly as empty sponges waiting to be told what to think every day.
When the fact of the matter is that all I do is validate what people already think and have thought all of their lives that they never heard expressed elsewhere in the media back in 1988 when we started.
So you are very shrewd.
You are very perceptive.
And I appreciate your call.
We'll be back after another brief obscene profit break after this.
We just were talking about this, and now we have a story from the Washington Examiner, Patrick Kennedy, who's the son of the late Senator Kennedy, Patrick Kennedy, former representative from Rhode Island.
I wonder if he's ever been there.
Yeah, I guess he has.
It's close enough.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Patrick Kennedy warned in a fundraising email for congressional Democrats that if the Supreme Court upholds Obama's health care law, then, quote, dangerous Tea Party extremists will go on a rampage.
Fundraising email sent out this afternoon to raise money for the Democrat Congressional Campaign Committee, the same bunch that's told Democrats not to go to the convention.
Patrick Kennedy wrote, my father, Ted Kennedy, spent his entire political career fighting tooth and nail for universal health care.
If the court strikes down that law, Democrats will need to redouble our efforts, fighting to ensure universal health care that's affordable and accessible to every American in reality.
But if the court upholds the law, dangerous Tea Party extremists will go on a rampage, he says.
So that's what the Democrats think.
And you people are going to go, you're going to turn into a bunch of extremist rampaging people.
I have no doubt that he may have a point.
Not rampage, but there'll be hell to pay come November.
Stockton, California is going to file for bankruptcy, largest U.S. city to fail.
And they have these pensions and health care liabilities that they simply can't afford, folks.
It's, you know, it really is a shame.
The average firefighter in Stockton costs the city $157,000 a year in pay and benefits.
Okay, fine.
We like people earning a lot of money.
Problem is that the firefighter in Stockton can retire at age 50 with a life expectancy of 76 to 80, can retire at age 50 with a pension equal to 90 percent of his highest salary and free lifetime health benefits.
Now, it's a great deal if you can get it, but there isn't the money to pay for it anymore.
It's such a, it really, the deals should never have been made.
They make no sense.
You can't pay somebody whatever you're paying them, have them retire at 50, promise them 90% of that for the rest of their lives, plus free health care on top of it.
It was promised.
The money isn't there.
It's a shame for these firefighters, cops, these municipal employees, but it just never was sustainable.
Stockton has laid off a quarter of its police, 30% of its firefighters, 43% of its city staff in order to pay for these benefits to retired city officials.
And they still have to declare bankruptcy.
Three more House Democrats have said they will vote to hold Eric Holder in contempt.
Three more.
That's a total of four House Democrats.
I think they're probably all white, racist, so you know how it goes, and not going to the convention.
Well, you post holder or Obama, aren't you racist?
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