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I can't wait.
They asked me, do you want it before?
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I'll wait after the program would be even slower if I had it out there waiting on me the whole show.
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And Paul, the 18-year-old has-gruel student from LA, held on.
He has got a project.
He's writing a report assigned by his teacher.
Has to be related to art or justice.
His report is an interview with me on the state of racism in the media and the country.
He needed to ask me four questions.
He's asked three.
There's one question left.
Paul, welcome back to program.
I'm glad and honored that you held on.
Before we get to your fourth question, I want to share with you something.
It's just amazing coincidence here, but it proves many points that I told you in answering your first three questions.
There is a tweet today, just today.
Don't know what caused it.
I don't know what it's in response to, but there is a black CNN journalist named Roland Martin.
Roland Martin is a friend of Obama's.
And here is his tweet.
Quote, I simply accept the reality that racism is in the DNA of America.
And when that button is pushed, the true feelings come tumbling out.
You ask me about racism in the media.
Well, here's a black journalist at CNN.
I don't know what this is relating to.
But again, Paul, I simply accept the reality racism is in the DNA of America.
So here he is, a mainstream journalist who just lives with the assumption that there's a racist country.
Always there.
And this, in his case, is personally because he's black, but he's liberal first.
All liberals are liberals before they're anything else.
If they're Jewish, if they're gay, if they're female male, they're liberals first, Paul.
That is their religion.
And that religion requires loyalty.
You must have faith in them.
They are the equivalent of your higher power.
You must have trust in them.
You must let them manage your affairs.
This guy tweeting today that racism is in the DNA of America.
So we are, as a country, founded in a flawed, sinful way.
We are unjust as a country.
It's immoral as a country.
And that belief allows Mr. Martin the excuse to be able to have power over people, to be able to punish people he thinks are racist.
Okay.
Just wanted to make sure you had that because you put that in your report and it will buttress everything I've said.
You should go find the tweet on your own, Roland Martin at Roland Martin, put it in there, and your teacher won't have anything to say.
I promise you I will.
Good.
What is the finale question?
Well, actually, this isn't so good.
Is it okay if I add one more to them?
Well, I can't blame you.
If I had a chance to talk to me, I wouldn't want to be limited to four questions.
So I understand.
Sure.
Thank you very much, sir.
The final one is much more of a finale question.
The fourth one is: do you think the media has been sensationalizing cases of perceived racism, or are they trying to find racism?
So are they trying to sort of invent racism in stories?
Do I wait, wait, say that again, Slower?
Yes, sir.
So do you think the media has been taking cases where they think they see racism in it and they just sort of expound upon it, or are they trying to make stories much more racist than they ever possibly are?
Both.
Both.
Both?
Well, I give you the Duke La Crosse case.
Are you familiar with the Duke La Crosse case?
Only vaguely, sir.
You are not.
Only vaguely.
Okay, here's what happened.
Four what, well, the Duke La Crosse team, made up of white guys, had a party one weekend at Duke University.
They hired as an entertainer a black dancer and stripper.
The woman claimed that she was sexually abused by some of the lacrosse team members, four of them.
With no evidence, the media ran in, Al Sharpton ran in, immediately presumed guilt, treated them as guilty.
The prosecutor charged them with whatever this woman said because, Paul, it fit the template that I described to you in the first answer.
Rich, white, majority, poor, disadvantaged black woman who is in a country so unjust and immoral that the only recourse she has in life is to take off her clothes for them and get paid for it.
That's the way they look at the country.
This poor black woman, that's the only thing she could do to earn money because this is such an unjust and immoral country.
And then, wouldn't you know, these rich, entitled white guys raped her.
So the prosecutor comes in, files all these charges.
It turns, and the faculty of Duke University wrote that there was a letter written that numerous members of the faculty signed condemning the lacrosse team, the lacrosse team coach, these four guys.
They were tarred and feathered, humiliated.
They were kicked out or left school.
The upshot of it is that the prosecutor was fired and disgraced.
There was no evidence.
The woman had totally made up all of it, Paul.
She made all of it up in a quest for money because she herself was trying to take advantage of the stereotype.
The prosecutor was running for reelection.
He automatically believed her.
He didn't care, in fact, whether it was true or not.
He saw advancement and votes in persecuting four white rich guys based on these charges.
So he got thrown off the case.
A new team of prosecutors was assigned.
They found no evidence whatsoever.
The charges were vacated.
These four kids left school, but the whole race industry was there at first.
It was a disgrace.
It was a literal disgrace.
There was no presumption of innocence.
The presumption was guilt, simply on the base of the charge.
And here's another thing to put in your report: where liberals and the media are concerned, it's not the nature of the evidence that matters in cases like this, Paul.
It is the seriousness of the charge.
That is how they attempted to prevent Clarence Thomas from being confirmed to the Supreme Court.
Anita Hill says that he sexually abused her and manipulated her and so forth.
It was a he said, she said.
There was no proof.
And the liberals said, well, we have to investigate the seriousness of the charge, even though there was no evidence.
Then I could cite for you the Tawana Brawley case led by Al Sharpton that put Al Sharpton on the map.
The Tawana Brawley case in America established Al Sharpton as a race leader.
Yes, sir.
The Tawana Brawley case was a hoax.
A woman accused a cop of raping her and then spreading feces on her, and it never happened.
It never happened.
It was established to be a hoax.
Al Sharpton today has a TV show.
Al Sharpton today leads the charge to Florida in the Trayvon Martin case.
Al Sharpton has never apologized to the country for that hoax.
He's never apologized to the prosecutor or the policeman, Steven Pagonis.
I think was it Pagonis the cop or the prosecutor?
He also, the cop, it was a disgrace.
I'll give you another example: the Trayvon Martin case.
The New York Times, so eager to establish that that was a racially motivated attack by George Zemmerman, the New York Times, for only the fifth time since in its history, referred to an Hispanic as a white Hispanic.
So the media is not just culpable, they lead on this phony racism.
They lead and perpetrate the hoaxes and the frauds and the phony charges.
The media wants to believe these racist stories.
They want to believe that there is racism in this country.
If the media didn't want to believe these racism stories, we wouldn't see such an endless stream of these kinds of hoaxes.
These hoaxes happen, Paul, because the media is willing to get behind them and promote them and report them.
If the media were not supportive of these hoaxes and of these phony racial accusations, we would not see an endless stream of racially oriented stories or hoaxes.
The media almost single-handedly gives life to these lies.
You have one more question.
Yes, sir.
You said you wanted an additional question, so this is it.
Yes, sir.
What is it?
My question is: what would a colorblind America truly look like?
What would a colorblind America truly look like?
Yes, sir.
Well, first thing, People would be judged and accepted on the basis of their character, content of their character, as Martin Luther King said.
They would be judged on their morality, whether they're nice, whether they're not nice.
It would look like America should look.
It would look like the greatest nation in the history of the world, which it is anyway.
A colorblind society would end endless charges of discrimination.
We would see an end to fake, phony news stories.
We would see an end to all of the division that exists in this country because of race.
If you ever noticed the scales of justice, the lady and the scales of justice, she's blindfolded.
Well, if you want to know what a colorblind society would look like, imagine everybody walking around with a blindfold so they couldn't see who it was they were interacting with.
And I guarantee you, you would see, and the result would be an entirely different way people relate to each other and get along with each other.
Balance the scales without concern for race or nationality or ethnicity or gender or what have you.
But that's utopia.
You see, people are imperfect, Paul.
And a colorblind society is a great objective.
It's a great goal and something to aspire to.
But because of the innate flaws and the imperfections of people, never going to get totally there.
But you as an individual can live your life that way.
I can choose to.
And the more people who chose to live their lives that way, the better off we'd be.
But the problem is, you know, I often said when I was young growing up, I wasn't, I was never called a racist in my life.
Nobody ever accused me of hating anybody until I got on this radio show and announced that I'm a conservative.
And then automatically, the media accused me being a racist and a hate monger.
But nobody who's ever known me has ever called me a racist.
Nobody's ever known me thought I was a hater or any of this.
I've had people who call me on this program, 23 years I've been doing it.
I wasn't a racist till the media turned me into one in any number of ways.
So it's a great objective, it's a great goal, and it's something individuals can do.
The greatest, the fastest way about this would be the way you look at yourself.
If you do not identify yourself by your race first, then you're not a racist.
But if you walk around thinking you're an aggrieved, discriminated against white guy or black guy or whatever, then you are living your life racially.
It's arguable that that might not make you a racist automatically, but at least you're living a racial or racialist existence if that's first and foremost in your mind about yourself.
If you look at yourself that way, you're going to look at other people that way.
Most people don't identify themselves that way.
But enough people do.
That forces everybody else to treat them that way.
If you're going to walk around and your self-image, your self-identity is based on your race, then you're going to demand to be treated that way.
And that starts the downward spiral.
Some people have been trained to only think of themselves that way.
That's a shame, too.
So I hope you get a good report out of this.
I hope it's been helpful to you.
And it's flattering to me that you would call and ask me for assistance on your report.
So I thank you for that.
I am honored to be on the be here, and this has been.
All right.
Paul, let us know.
Stay in touch.
Snerdley, give Snerdley your phone number if you don't mind so that we can check in with you periodically and see how this worked out.
Because I'm convinced that you're running the risk of an automatic F just by interviewing me.
It's worth the risk, sir.
I know, because of what you learned.
There's no question about it.
I appreciate the honor and a chance to talk to you.
Thank you.
But hey, hey, hey, Paul, you said your dad is a subscriber at Rush Limbaugh 24-7, right?
You're not?
I'm afraid not.
I haven't gotten around to it.
I think I'll do it.
I don't know, maybe.
Well, Paul, you've got to get your priority straight.
I'm going to help you with that, too.
I want to send you a new iPad.
So hold on.
Snerdley will get the address to send it to you.
What do you want, Verizon or AT ⁇ T?
Well, I guess AT ⁇ T would be nice because that's our family plan right now.
All right, fine.
Then you'll have that.
Saturday delivery, you'll have it tomorrow.
We'll be right back, folks.
Don't go away.
Open Line Friday, El Rush Balls serving humanity and having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have audio soundbites.
We'll get back to your phone calls in the next half hour.
No, if I'm going to take a call now, because I've got four John Boehner bites, I probably have a little bit more commentary time with these four bites than what I have now.
So let's grab Steve and Norman, Oklahoma.
Steve, great to have you on Open Line Friday.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
How are you?
Good.
Thank you.
Good.
I wanted to take a step back a little bit and talk about the student loan and interest rate issue.
I'm a college senior right now, and I worked really hard all through high school trying to save money with my parents.
I had $80,000 saved up to go to college, and we lost about two-thirds of it when the economy busted in 2008.
You saved $80,000 when you were in high school?
Well, the majority of it was my parents, and I can thank them for that.
Still, that's huge.
That's good.
But a lot of it you lost because of the recession.
Absolutely.
And so, you know, I kept working, got about $50,000 in scholarships, and I'm still going to have almost $30,000 in student loans by the time I'm done with my degree at the University of Oklahoma.
And for the Democrats to think that it's okay to allow us to have to pay more money to them over the next couple of years and to the government on this interest is just ridiculous.
And that's money that I can't put straight into the economy.
Now, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Just a second.
One thing.
You're a senior, did you say?
Yeah.
As I understand it, because, well, not because, but being that you are a senior, your interest rate won't go up.
This is for new student loans or recent ones.
It's only going to affect the rates on loans after July 1st.
Current interest rates are not going to double, but Obama wants you to think it is.
See, this is the point.
Obama wants you to think your interest rate's going to double.
The Republicans are trying to stop that from happening, and Obama's prepared to beat.
Look, hang on.
I want to explain this to you and everybody else with a little bit more time.
And we are back open line Friday.
We have Steve, Norman, Oklahoma, college senior, $30,000.
That will be your student loan debt when you graduate.
Did I understand that correctly?
Yeah, right around there.
Right, okay.
Now, as I understand it, the interest rate that is supposed to double on July 1st is for new loans, not current loans.
I know this sounds unbelievable because Obama on the stump is making it sound like if you are a current holder of a student loan, on July 12th, or July 1st, your student loan rate, interest rate's going to double.
Regardless, the Republicans passed a legislation today, passed a bill to prevent this.
Obama, according to Nancy Pelosi, is threatening to veto it.
Now, here you have Obama on the stump all week bemoaning interest rates doubling.
Republicans today pass bills saying, nope, it won't.
And Pelosi says Obama is going to veto it.
So it's, if Sandra Fluke, who I'm not supposed to talk about, according to Judith Miller, Sandra Fluke is also out talking about how her student loan rate is going to double, and it won't.
Her interest rate will not go up either, despite the claims she's making in her tweets.
If I understand this right, there's a lot of confusion that I will have to admit to here on this.
But the bottom line is that the Republicans have never wanted the interest rate to double.
It's been a Democrat idea from the get-go all they wanted to do was pay for the extension.
The Democrats want to just borrow the money from the Chinese to pay for this.
So having said that, what was the question or comment that you were going to ask?
Did that answer it?
Well, I just wanted to say that, you know, on one hand, we have the Democrats that are always pushing for more young adults to go to college.
They're pushing for us to create more jobs in the marketplace.
And this is a perfect example of where we could help young students or young adults go to college, not have to pay as much back to the government, and be able to be putting that into the economy at a sooner point in our lives and be able to get better jobs.
Well, you probably saw the news this week that one out of two college graduates is either unemployed or underemployed.
The fact of the matter is we're losing jobs in the private sector for everybody, college graduates and everybody else.
It's got to be, if I were in your shoes and other people your age, I see all this polling data about the youth vote, even though it's coming down, still majority for Obama.
It doesn't compute to me.
I don't know how and I know you're not one of these people, but I don't know how anybody coming out of college now with job prospects being as bleak as they are can in any way be supporting Obama.
But you think that they ought to keep the interest rate low so that the student loan is not so damaging to you as you build your life when you get out of college, right?
Right.
And what you just said, I'm a meteorology major and some of my friends applying for jobs right now.
We've got one job that there were 120 applicants for this single job in our sector.
And so we've got all of these students that are coming through college and they can't even look at getting jobs in their sectors.
And so they're going out and they're selling cars or they're doing things that have nothing to do with their education.
Now, let me give you a little tough love here on this.
That, of course, is disappointing.
You've gone to school for meteorology.
And a lot of other people have gone to school specializing in things.
Life is what it is.
You happen to be graduating at a time when we are in a depressed economy.
So you can feel bad about that for a while.
But then at some point, if selling cars is what you have to do until the opportunity opens up, that's what you have to do.
I'm not going to sit here and tell you all the stuff I did to stay in radio and so forth.
I don't want to be one of these old fuddy duddies, but I will tell you that everybody faces these consequences at some point in their life.
Even you come out of school, your job is there.
You might get fired.
You might get fired for cause.
You might have a black mark on your resume.
It's an obstacle.
You have to overcome.
There are going to be obstacles every day of your life.
Yours right now is that there isn't a whole lot of job opportunity in your chosen field.
You might have to wait till it opens up, or you might have to go on interviews and show the people who do have jobs that you're better than anybody else applying their challenges each and every day.
Overcoming them is a great sense of achievement when you pull it off.
But all these things are character builders.
You need to understand that there are people who are older than you who are working very hard to get rid of the political party and the people who have brought about these economic circumstances because there are people like me who want nothing but robust opportunity for everybody, economically and otherwise.
We don't want all the power in government.
We don't want all the money transferred to government.
We want it staying in the private sector and we want the private sector growing so that it can handle college graduates every year coming out the job market and replacing people who quit or retire or what have you.
What is the biggest obstacle you think you're going to have once you graduate?
What kind of job do you want with a meteorology degree?
Do you want to be television weather?
Do you want to actually go to work for the National Weather Service?
What kind of work do you want to do?
Well, you know, I'm pretty open because I understand that it's going to be difficult to get a job directly in my field.
And personally, anything that I can do to affect public policy and help more students get to go to college and help with some of the public policy perceptions on meteorology.
Well, now it's interesting since you mentioned public policy, because you probably know this, but if you don't, let me tell you one of the obstacles you're going to run into.
Let's say that the economy was fine and you had your pick of jobs.
Biggest obstacle you're going to find is that the quote-unquote meteorology field right now is populated with people who believe in man-made global warming, and you had better too if you want to get a job.
And that's, I don't know where you are on that, but it, I mean, there's the head meteorologist, for example, at Channel 7, the ABC ONO in New York, is one of these big man-made global warming guys and is insisting, well, I mean, it's not him.
Some weather people are suggesting that if you're not pro-man-made global warming, you don't deserve to be hired to do TV weather, for example.
So you mentioned public policy, that means politics.
And you're going to have to deal with that too As you go into the field, it's you've got an exciting life ahead of you.
You've got all kinds of things that are going to blow up in your face that will be teachable moments.
But remember this, and this is for everybody: you never start at the top.
Not even Barack Obama.
He was a community agitator first, and then he went to the top.
But nobody starts at the top.
Well, I mean, maybe the Kennedy family, some of them did, but that's inheritance and that's really unique.
That's not very common.
But you don't start at the top.
And your student loan debt of $30,000 is much less than a lot of others who have six-figure student loan debt.
So you're compared to people whom you're going to be competing, and that's what you're going to be doing.
That's another thing.
You're going to be competing against other people for jobs.
You're ahead of the game in a lot of ways.
Look, I'm glad you called.
I've got to take a well, take Chelsea Clinton.
She started at the top.
She's right there at the NBC Nightly News and that 30 Rock show.
Well, she has got hired again there.
She just got, I think I just read last after the first review.
I think this last week I read that she re-upped at NBC.
But see, even then, that's primarily, well, I don't want to take anything away from Chelsea Clinton, but clearly, when your dad's ex-president and he goes places that you'd like to go to, like Columbia, places like that, you want to stay in good graces.
And you want to get access to him as a journalist, ask him questions, interview him.
It's what it is.
Some people have advantages that other people don't have.
And you have to bite the bullet on that, too.
But she did have her contract renewed.
Anyway, Steve, thanks much for the call.
I got a brief time out here again on Open Line Friday.
Back with more in a jiffy.
Earlier today, I saw this.
I meant to mention this earlier today.
There was a headline at NPR.com.
Is slow growth actually good for the economy?
I kid you not.
It's like in the 90s, is lying actually helpful for a society?
In the middle of Clinton lying, so now in the middle of Obama's disastrous economy, is slow growth actually good for the economy?
And they've now changed the headline, but not the way you might think.
They changed slow growth now to moderate growth.
Kid you not.
Is moderate growth good for the economy?
Yeah, they realize their mistake.
It's slow growth.
That's putting the economy down.
Moderate growth good for the economy.
How about this?
Is rapid economic growth bad for the economy?
Why don't you do a report on that, NPR?
Is rapid economic growth actually bad for the economy?
And Michelle Obama just tweeted: the Obamas know the challenge of student loan debt firsthand.
Stand with Barack Obama to make college affordable.
He's only had three years to do that.
If they're so worried about student debt, how come there's no record of either of them ever working a day to put themselves through college?
Now, folks, look, I want to make a comment about the caller, Paul from Norman, Oklahoma.
You have to understand, I know that a lot of you are smoking out there, and I want to try to explain it.
Everybody is focused on themselves.
It's just human nature.
And his problems are the most important problems in the world.
Everybody's personal problems are the most important in the world.
I know full well there are people in this country who haven't gone to college, can't afford to go to college, and they hear people complaining about the interest on loans that they voluntarily assumed, and they don't have a whole lot of sympathy.
I mean, really, you took out the loan yourself.
Don't cry about it.
There are people in this country who are breaking their backs, who are working to hold on to their homes, their homes.
And they listen to all this talk about students and the interest on their loans.
And they say, wait a minute, what are these kids complaining about?
There are a lot of people about losing their homes foreclosed on, and they're breaking their backs trying to hold on to them.
So there's, I know those people are out there.
President Obama is scheduled to do two more campaign fundraisers later today, disguised as policy statements.
One of them is a $40,000 a plate dinner.
And if you, one thing you could do is you could follow in Michelle Obama's footsteps, get a no-show job at a hospital for like $300,000 a year.
That'll help you pay off your student loans.
Folks, have a wonderful weekend.
We'll see you a national holiday when we get back here, the day Obama got Osama.