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Jan. 17, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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January 17, 2012, Tuesday, Hour #2
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Greetings and welcome back, Rush Limbaugh, the Excellence and Broadcasting Network from the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Great to have you here.
Our telephone number is 800 282-2882, and the email address is Ilrushmore at EIB net.com.
We will get back to the to our review of the debate and uh your phone calls on it.
But first up, we have the um uh Governor of Wisconsin on the phone with us, Scott Walker, who is subject to a recall attempt in the state of Wisconsin because of the bang up good job he has done in trying to reform some of the practices uh involving collective bargaining and state employees in the state of Wisconsin.
Governor, welcome and and and thank you for giving us some time with you today.
Hey, Rush, my pleasure.
Great to be with you and your listeners.
Now let's let me let me set this up by letting people in the audience know some facts.
You took office in January 2011, and at the time, as governor, you faced a uh budget deficit of three point six billion dollars.
You made some decisions.
That deficit is now a projected three hundred million dollar surplus without raising taxes, without furloughs or layoffs for state employees.
You have also asked state employees to pay twelve point six percent of their health care premiums.
Private sector workers pay double that.
You've asked state employees to contribute five point eight percent of uh their salary toward their pensions.
They previously paid zero.
You've got an excellent track record in turning the state around.
Why do they want to get rid of you?
Well, I think that's a logical question.
I I think the bottom line is the big government unions in Washington uh more than anything want their money, and they don't want their workers' money.
It's not about just about collective bargaining or pensions or anything else like that.
It's about the fact I also gave the nearly three hundred thousand public servants, the people who legitimately work hard every day for both our state and our local government Wisconsin, I gave them the right to choose, which means they don't have to be a part of a union anymore, and their union dues can't be forcibly taken out of their paycheck.
That's what this is really about.
That's why they're gonna break the bank to take us on this summer of these recall elections, and uh everything else is kind of air cover for that.
Our reforms are working.
Signatures are due today, is that right?
That's right.
How does this recall process work?
Yeah, it it is bizarre.
They need to get at least uh a quarter of uh uh a number equivalent to a quarter of all the votes cast for governor in two thousand ten.
And so that's uh just over five hundred and forty thousand though probably turn in close to seven hundred thousand today.
But remember that's equivalent, meaning in our state you don't actually have to be a voter to sign it.
All you have to be is eligible to vote, which means eighteen, not a felon, and lived in the state for at least twenty-eight days.
So you can imagine all the shenanigans in there.
But from what they say, they're probably gonna turn in seven hundred and twenty thousand today.
That's a lot of signatures, but they've been planning this uh since late last spring.
Uh they've got tons of money from the big government unions in Washington around the country.
And you know, in comparison, and they went out and solicited some 700,000 signatures, but that's through months and months of preparation, six months of effort, or excuse me, two months of effort, uh, after six months of preparation, and they still have fewer signatures in terms of people out there than there were votes cast in the last government election, even for the losing candidate, uh the mayor of Milwaukee.
So my hope is if we can affirm the majority of people in the state uh and get their trust just like we did in 2010, we'll be able to do it again in 2012.
Talking to Scott uh Walker, governor of Wisconsin, subject to uh recall petition.
So the AP is reporting that uh, as you say, they will turn in enough signatures.
I I can't remember where, Governor.
It was it might have been Wisconsin, just in the past couple of weeks.
Or it could have been before the Christmas break, but I read some state doing something similar, and again it might have been Wisconsin.
Um petitions had to be submitted, and i i they were they were signed by Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck, and they were judged Wisconsin.
Yeah.
Judged to be legal.
We we will go through and and we will review and challenge uh all these.
We've got literally thousands of grassroots volunteers willing to help us out in that.
But the other guy on the ABC affiliate in Milwaukee that went on TV and claimed he signed it eighty times.
In fact, his quote was something like uh Well, George Bush cheated, so we're gonna cheat too, is essentially what he told the reporter.
It under Wisconsin law, only one of the signatures should count.
But up until we went up the court, the campaign was the one that had to challenge that.
Now the agency that runs elections in the state will have to review those.
But uh again, I I said three or four months ago, at least when they first talked about the date of the recall, I said if you think about it, if they get nine or ten thousand union activists and and whether they're people in the state or people they had to pay to come in from somewhere else, one way or another, they were gonna get enough signatures, even with some of these other ridiculous cases, they'll probably still get enough because we saw it in Ohio and uh we saw them uh putting the bodies in that they needed to do it.
The key quest here, though, that's unlike Ohio is in O'Toole's case, they never saw the effect of the reforms.
In Wisconsin's case, we've seen it that uh in September when kids like my kids went back to public school, and our schools in nearly every part of the state were the same or better, and then a few weeks ago in December, people got their property tax bills, and for the first time in years, the school tax levies actually went down across the state on average.
People have seen no matter how many attack ads from the big government union bosses, the bottom line is the reforms are working.
And so they're living the reforms that you're actually demonstrable.
Yeah, they don't need to, you know, we we have a great choice here.
We don't even know who the candidate is against us yet, other than we know the real opponent will be this money coming in from out of state from these government unions.
But in the end, it's a real choice.
You can go back to the days of of double digit tax increases, billion dollar budget deficits, and record job loss, because in the three years before I took office, Wisconsin lost 150,000 private sector jobs, or we can move forward and ultimately be in a position where uh we can move the state forward.
We've had a net increase of jobs this year.
We balanced the budget without tax increases, we did it the old fashioned way, we made structural changes that think more about the next generation than just about the next election, and we were able to protect core services by making these reforms.
That's where I think the majority of people in our state want to go.
And I I hope, given the chance again this summer, with the help of a lot of grassroots supporters and people across the country at Scott Walker.org can help us out as well.
Well, that's why they want to recall your effective.
You're you're you're doing what you said you were gonna do, and what you said you were gonna do is working, and that's the last thing the left can tolerate.
They just can't tolerate um this kind of success.
It it it disproves every belief of theirs.
And I I just went back and checked.
It was the the story was from December 14th.
The signatures of Mick D. Mouse and Adolf Hitler will be counted on recall petitions targeting you as long as they're properly dated and include a Wisconsin address.
Nobody's been laid off for this, despite all the scream.
How in the world can that stand?
Well, we went through, unlike other states, you know, think of what are the ways you balance a budget.
Some states raised taxes, we did.
In fact, we lowered the over there spring.
Some states laid off, including some Democrat controlled states, laid off thousands of public employees.
Look at Illinois.
Look at how many people are leaving Illinois.
Yeah, well, and it's and it's exactly right.
I mean, look at the mess they've got down there.
They had massive tax increases.
They claimed they were going to do that.
They in fact they boldly said in Springfield last year they were doing that instead of doing what we were doing in Wisconsin.
They've got a huge fiscal mess.
They just surpassed California as the worst bond rate in the country.
They've got a 10% unemployment, and they've got continued problems in that state.
We took on our problems head on.
We took them on.
We thought more about our kids and our grandkids' future than we did about our own political futures.
And in the end, I believe, I still have faith in the American voter and the voter in Wisconsin.
I believe that given the truth, the majority of people in our state will say, you know what, we want leaders who do what they say they're going to do.
We want leaders who think about the future, not just about being worried about what group may run ads against them.
And in the end, I think we're going to prevail, but it's going to take a ton of support.
We we raised in the last two months, we raised more money than any candidate for governor ever has, and seventy-nine percent of those donations came from people who gave us fifty dollars or less.
So that's why I always tell folks go to Scott Walker.org because we're going to have a tremendous grassroots army of supporters out there who are going to help us take on this big government union money.
When does this actually happen?
The signatures get turned into day, then they get counted.
How long does that take?
And when is the actual recall election?
The the verification process will probably take at least a month, if not longer.
We believe uh, based upon that timeline, you're probably having a June, maybe even early July election.
So this will drag on a while.
We're ready to do it now.
You know, unfortunately for my taxpayers in Wisconsin, this baseless recall effort is going to cost the taxpayers nine million dollars, on top of the fact that we're probably going to see sixty to seventy million dollars worth of ads and the tax and everything else up there, which I think most people are just sick of.
Uh but in the end, that's the way the law is.
It is what it is, assuming they have enough valid signatures.
We'll have the election by mid-summer.
But I think it's one of those that's important not only in Wisconsin.
I think it's important across America, not only for 2012, but more so long term.
And that's why I think the big government unions are so invested in this.
They know that when we prevail, this will send a powerful message in every State House and in the halls of Congress that once and for all people can stand up and do the right thing, the courageous thing, and there'll be people there standing with them.
Well, you are.
I mean you you're you're you're proving that the contentions the unions make, the economic contentions they make are not true.
You're proving that with policy and the results.
Um your neighboring state, Illinois had to raise taxes 66%, still didn't help them.
Um you have success on your side.
It's just a matter of uh whether or not buggaboo, uh, whether or not people, voters of Wisconsin who are living the success.
I mean, they can see it, they see the mention their property tax assessment, they can see it, or whether it's gonna be overcome by emotion and then uh part of the campaigns and so forth.
And you're you are gonna have this is I think it's bellwether, you're gonna have uh national union sport arrayed against you.
Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
But I'm a firm believer in the truth.
We saw on a smaller basis, but we saw a similar outpouring of of national attention uh from the big government unions this sum last summer when the six of my state senators faced recall elections and the end we prevailed and um upheld the majority for the state senate.
I believe it was because of the truth.
In fact, one of those key elections involved a district nearby Milwaukee, and on the eve of the recall election, the Comptroller in that city had to come out and admit that the uh the reforms we put in place will ultimately save that city twenty-five million dollars and net anywhere from eleven to seventeen million dollars of savings each year.
That's after the mayor, months earlier said our reforms were going to devastate the city.
The facts ultimately came out, and I think that helped win in that seat, and I think the facts, if if given the chance to get out, will ultimately allow us to yet again earn the trust of majority people in our state.
Uh, Governor, best of luck.
Um we, of course, as always will be tracking this and uh stay in touch.
Thanks for our speed of the case.
Scott Walker, the governor of Wisconsin, and we will be back and continue right after this.
Don't go away.
A couple of things here about Governor Walker uh in Wisconsin.
You are looking at somebody on the bleeding edge, not just the cutting edge.
This guy is at the forefront of where every other governor in this state is going to eventually end up.
The unions, state employee, public employee unions are bleeding every state dry.
He took them on.
He has turned the $3.6 billion deficit into a projected $300 million surplus.
All because the state employees are paying a portion, not all, a portion of their benefits, like the people in the state who work for them pay for their own stuff.
Now, the Illinois method of trying to deal with this was to raise taxes 66%, and it did not help them.
It's killed them.
And that decision was made by a lame duck Democrat legislature in Illinois.
Scott Walker is doing everything that every other governor is eventually going to have to do.
John Kasich gave it a shot in Ohio.
He's, as I say, is more than the cutting edge, he is the bleeding edge.
The other governors are not going to have any choice.
It's either do this or go Greece.
Indiana is doing the exact same thing, and Mitch Daniels there is triumphing as well.
Now, I I just I want to tell you, Scott Walker, I um the spoke about uh mentioned this Heritage Foundation speech I did here last fall.
It was he was in the audience uh and it was in the midst of that period in Wisconsin where all the Democrats had fled the state and refused to vote on uh on his uh on his legislation.
It really is in the state of Wisconsin, it's a story of sanity versus thuggery.
It is a story of the entrenched big government bottom feeders trying to hold on to everything they have at the expense of the people who pay them.
It cannot be stated enough.
Under Scott Walker in Wisconsin, the unions, state unions in Wisconsin have exactly the same powers that the federal unions under Obama enjoy.
That's what he's dealing with.
And he is courageously fighting it so much so that they've got this recall effort to send him packing, and they are accepting signatures, Mickey Mouse and Adolf Hitler.
They will be counted on these recall petitions.
Now you say, how is that possible?
There's only one answer to that.
Democrats.
That's how it's possible.
Who is it that opposes proper identification, photo ID to vote?
It's Democrats.
There's only one reason to oppose that.
And that is you want to cheat.
Only one reason.
You have to submit a photo ID for practically everything in life to get on an airplane, you name it.
But when the same thing is mentioned about voting, here come the Jeff Jesse Jacksons of the world talking about racism and discrimination and trying to uh uh deny voting rights, it's absolutely absurd.
They're admitting they want to cheat.
What the hell is this?
Mickey Mouse and Adolf Hitler signatures count.
On recall petition, somebody hasn't lived in the state but 28 days, moves in, rents an apartment for a month and leaves, counts.
But it is what it is.
And this is what he's up against.
He knows it.
By the way, he's not belly aching it about it.
I am.
He's just he's just dealing with it as needs to be said.
But this is the battle that every state is going to be facing at some point, because they cannot print money.
And at some point they can't borrow it.
They have to be able to pay it back.
You have to have a photo ID to vote in union elections.
The very same people who demand a photo ID in union elections oppose it in statewide or national elections.
There's only one reason.
There's only one reason that Adolf Hitler counts as a signature, Mickey Mouse counts.
You want to cheat.
There's only one reason you oppose a photo ID to vote on election day.
You want to cheat.
Well, we don't want to cheat.
We want our victories to be legitimate.
And we want our victories to be rooted in ideas.
We want at the end of the day, after the election takes place the people who have voted for us, we want to know why.
We want them to be able to explain to others why they voted for us.
And the process, we want there to be a mandate after each victory.
We don't want to have to cheat.
We don't even want to have to lie.
We don't want to have to misrepresent ourselves to win elections.
We've decided it's much easier just to play by the rules and try to win legitimately as it is to cheat.
Spend less time, just go for it.
All it takes is the right message.
Governor Walker's got it.
Everything that he said his policies would result in have happened.
He has shown that the unions in Wisconsin are lying.
All of these end of the world predictions about what life would be like for people in Wisconsin have not manifested.
Just the opposite.
People in Wisconsin have received their property tax assessments, and lo and behold, they've gone down.
In this economy, they've gone down.
You might think, well, that'd be enough.
In a fair and sane political world, yeah, it would be enough.
But if Mickey Mouse and Adolf Hitler can sign a recall petition, there's no doubt in my mind they can also vote.
And so that has to be accounted for, planned for, not whined about, has to be counted for.
By the way, do you know unions are illegal in China?
Obama, Thomas Friedman, all these wizards are smart.
Anyone found trying to unionize in China sent to prison?
I wonder if Thomas L. Friedman, Thomas Loopy Freedman, I wonder if he even knows that.
He's always advocating we need more like China.
A select few elites making the decision.
Too many committees, too much legislation, too many people trying to decide this stuff, and it gets bottled up.
We need a few, maybe ten really smart people making all the decisions.
And Thomas L. Friedman thinks he should be one of the ten.
You try to unionize, you try to pull off in China.
What they're doing in Wisconsin, it's the union that goes to jail, prison camp, re-education, hard labor, what have you.
Good behavior is getting out in six months and being sent to a North Korean labor camp.
Okay, we're gonna go to the phones now, folks.
I've still got debate sound bites to go.
Galore, but it's been an hour and a half, and we haven't taken a phone call yet, and people are chomping it a bit.
And I was just during the break, I was just watching uh Fox.
I have it on here in the studio, and Megan Kelly had a small audience in there to talk about the debate.
And she went to a woman.
And I just I'm reading this in a close captioning.
I don't ever turn on the audience, can't hear it.
Well, I can, but I don't take the time to just read the close captioning.
The woman says, I don't want Newt.
He's the wrong messenger, a fat white rich guy.
We don't want Newt for our messenger.
He's just the wrong fat old white rich guy.
Newt isn't rich.
Newt isn't rich.
But anyway, that's this is this is where we are.
What he said doesn't matter a hill of beans to this one woman.
It didn't matter.
Totally about how he looks and how he's going to be perceived and what the other guys are going to say about him that's going to embarrass her.
And that's the sole reason she's making a judgment.
Because of how she's going to feel when people say that about Newt, if Newt would happen to be the nominee.
Here's newest in the Wall Street Journal.
No surprise here.
Forty-eight point six percent of uh U.S. lived in households are receiving some type of government benefits in the second quarter of 2010.
The Census Bureau numbers.
48.6% of lived-in households receiving some type of government benefit.
Nearly half of America lives in a household receiving government benefits.
Nearly half.
You're not surprised, are you?
You are surprised?
You're surprised at that?
Well, what's the difference in that?
And 47% aren't paying any income tax.
I'm not the pool of Americans relying on government benefits rose to record highs last year.
As increasing and increasing share of families tapped aid in a weak economy.
Forty-eight point six percent of population lived in a household receiving some type of government benefit in the second quarter of 2010.
It's up from 48.5.
So it's up one-tenth of one percent.
In the first quarter.
So we are immersed here in looksism and class envy.
Forty-eight point six percent receiving some type of government benefit.
That can only help Obama.
It can only help the Democrats.
That's what they're doing.
You know, folks, before we get to the calls, let me say something.
I have uh, as I have mentioned to you people, you know, you need to write a new book.
And I don't want to write another book.
I've been there, done that.
Their books are all over the place out there.
I don't have an iron butt.
I can't sit down long enough to write a book.
And now I don't have to.
Because uh my buddy Mark Levin flea.
New book is out uh called Ameritopia.
The remaking or unmaking of America.
And it's um I don't have to write another book now, at least not now.
What are you giving me that look for, Sner?
This is this it is a great book.
The Yeah, well, I just uh Well, I should do a 20th anniversary of the first book.
I could do it's still I have people reading it for the first time.
It's still relevant.
Still relevant.
But uh with with Levin's book out there, I don't need to write a new one right now.
I could dictate it to the iPhone.
I could dictate it with the iPhone.
You're absolutely right.
Anyway, writing is hard for me.
But I do speak.
And I'm thinking some maybe I'll just take uh have to hire somebody to do this to go through every show monologue and put together a book of show monologues.
And those things haven't been in print other than at Rush Limbaugh.com.
And it's so massive.
That'd be a massive entity.
There'd probably a volume of books in the monologues I've done.
That would that would be monumental process.
But anyway, I just I just wanted to give a shout out to Mark's book, um uh Ameritopia, the unmaking of America.
It's you want to know why.
And I mean, if you want to know, other than just guessing and having your own sense of awareness, if you want to know why forty-eight point six of the population lives in a household receiving some type of government uh assistance, it's because it's being done on purpose.
There is an effort to unmake this country.
There is an effort to destroy this country as founded.
To destroy the sovereignty of every individual.
We talk about America as a nation losing its sovereignty.
The sovereignty of every individual is under assault and has been for years.
And the question that that everybody has is it too late?
And when you to salvage it to to reverse it, 48.6% of the population living in a household receiving some type of government benefit, and that becoming the new definition of being an American, that entitlement.
The government is supposed to provide these things.
That's what the Occupy Bunch is all about.
That's Obama's creation to create that sentiment.
That the purpose of America is to make sure outcomes in life are equal, that nobody has any more than anybody else.
And now to the phones.
This is Maureen in Orlando.
I'm glad you waited.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Gosh Rush, I'm so excited to speak to you on this exciting day.
Thank you.
Let me just preface.
Yesterday was the first time I stood in front of my television and cheered when Newt was speaking.
Since Sarah Palin gave her acceptance speech.
It was fabulous.
Yeah, I remember that myself.
Yeah.
It was you know what?
I just want to uh say I've been getting calls all morning from people, my friends.
I'm just a stay-at-home mom for 17 years.
My husband works hard to have me at home to raise our rush babies.
But my friends are so excited about Newt and his message that he has about self-sufficiency and you know, get the kids to work.
Well, I know.
The question is, is it too late?
No, I don't think so.
I go around my small town, I go into the post office, I go into the library.
We're buzzing.
We want we do want change.
People, it's almost like call it the whisper campaign.
No one wants to speak aloud about it, but we want conservatism.
This is what we work for.
We don't like standing.
I was standing in line yesterday at the grocery store.
I was caught looking at the people's cards filled with soda and junk, and they whipped out an EBT card.
I mean, I um my husband works hard every day to buy our milk and eggs and chicken.
Why am I buying somebody else's soda?
Yep.
So I know.
But I I know, I know how you I know I know all of this.
But you know what?
We are we're we're bigger than them.
You always say that we are bigger than them.
We're We're usually pretty gracious and keep our opinions to ourselves, but it's reaching the point where it doesn't benefit them.
That's why I spoke what that's why I was called today about the benefits that I've seen with my daughter being picked to work in the school.
You know, she gets a fabulous opportunity.
She she takes one period to work in the administration office because she's a good student.
Well, the benefits are she got chosen for a prestigious program that she goes um speaks to all the community leaders in our county, but she actually got picked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, your daughter got picked, but how many hundreds of others didn't?
And see, that's what's wrong with America.
But that's what I'm saying.
Your daughter actually got special treatment because you said she was uh she got chosen for prestigious program, special treatment and so forth.
I come everybody else's daughter couldn't got picked for this.
You know what the gateway was?
That she got in front of administrators, they saw her work ethic.
So what up for Newhead said about working, like if you cleaned bathrooms, I used to wash dishes when I was 14.
But you know what?
I saw the value of that.
And I worked my way up because I did not want to wash dishes for the rest of my life.
And now my daughter, it was almost like a gateway.
I was talking to my friend.
I said, you know, it's a privilege as a parent that our children forget taking some nonsense course that they actually get to work in the our school is three thousand students.
She gets to see the the intimate workings of the school.
Yes, and 2,999 students don't.
That's the way the liberals play it.
Well, you know, it's sad that they twist around that the minority students or the poor students.
This is a privilege.
It's it's a nice, it's a neat thing that you're getting to work.
You know what liberals listening to this program are saying to you right now what they're screaming at the radios?
How come you didn't want to wash dishes for the rest of your life?
Other people have to do it.
How come you don't have to anymore?
How come washing dishes all of a sudden became beneath you?
That's what we're dealing with.
We're dealing with insanity.
We're dealing with a total cultural divide, disconnect.
You are calling to praise your daughter, and I totally understand it.
And the people on the left listening to this, all they hear is how your daughter benefited from an unfair advantage.
She's smarter or new people or whatever, and you had connections, and that's what's wrong with America because these other 299, whatever it is, 2,999 didn't.
And they focus on the losers.
And they don't they don't think the winners are legitimate.
And therefore the whole process is illegitimate.
Work should be an honor.
Well, I just said when I was my my first job.
Well, I was forced.
I was forced to mow the grass.
That was my brother and my punishment.
With a not a power more.
We had a no, and we had to use edge trimmers, and I hated it.
It I hate it to this day.
I despised it.
It was punishment.
Had to do it.
We had to wash the dishes before we were 14.
I can tell you that.
Well, my first paying job away from home was shining shoes in a barbershop.
Age 13.
And well, it was racist because there were people at the time who thought that I shouldn't have the job because I came from an affluent family and I was depriving a poor kid of the opportunity.
Even back then, I know.
I kid you not.
I kid you not.
There were there the there was I mean, it wasn't said very loud, but there was an undercurrent.
There were there was an undercurrent, and and and uh uh uh anyway, but the barbers in the barbershop were all great.
They um, you know, I I got the job, but then I sat around in there waited for customers to come to the shoe shine stand.
And uh a couple days, you know, two people show up.
Barbara says, you know, you uh how you're gonna get them back here for shoeshine.
I said, well, if they want one, they'll get them.
If they don't, no, no, no.
Nobody wants one.
You're gonna have to.
You need when they're sitting in the chair getting their hair cut, just give their shoes a brief buff.
And if they say don't do it because I don't want to pay for it, you tell them there's no charge.
Just a service that you offer.
And you watch how many of them will ask you to come do it for real and pay you.
And that and that happened.
So the learning was is a great learning thing at age 30.
All I just I just love making shoes shine.
I don't know.
It was a, it was uh it was a fetish.
Uh getting paid for it was uh I'm 13.
It cost 50 cents.
And I made 50 dollars in three months.
I was living at home.
It was not something I needed to live on.
But my uh my my parents were blown away, they couldn't understand it.
Why I would want to do it.
Uh they didn't hold me back, but there was this undercurrent that I was depriving somebody more needy of the job.
But that's always gonna I don't care.
That's always there's there are always going to be detractors, anybody doing anything they do.
I just loved it.
I've learned how to spit shine like the uh military people have to do, learned how to do all that.
So we've all got these stories to tell.
We've all got stories to tell and of of the first jobs that we had, the first work that we had.
You learn so much being around adults who are earning a living for themselves and their family.
You just it's a it was a great educational thing for me all the way around, just in basics, you know, how to get customers.
Yeah, you just can't sit there and let them come to you.
Anyway, I'm way along here, folks.
I got to take a timeout.
People want to know if I could snap the buff rag like professional shoes.
Damn right I could snap that rag.
I could make that rap, I can make that buff rag sing.
But you know, there's something else I learned about that, and this has stayed with me all my life.
I learned, this is gonna sound so strange, but the barber supply place has stuff that you can't buy in any other store.
Like the clippers they use, or like the shoe shine stuff.
Uh no retail outlet has this stuff.
It's it's and and there's uh you know, all kinds of businesses that restaurant supply stores.
You can't buy the stuff there retail.
Uh I don't know.
There were there were so many gadgets and fun things that you could get in the barber supply store that you couldn't find at the average run-of-the-mill grocery store.
So I felt that's something exclusive.
I have access stuff here nobody else can get.
I can shine shoes better than you can do it, because the stuff I can get is stuff you can't get.
And I would tell the customers that I you can't get the stuff I'm using here.
Only I can get it.
Well, that was a great sales technique as well.
And that has remained true to this there's that's always the case about practically everything.
Now, I want to I I just went to Amazon to check uh Levin's book.
I promise we get back here, more debate sound bites, and we're gonna flood uh flood the show with uh with your phone calls.
So I just want to give you some of the reviews of Levin's book at Amazon.
And they're all positive.
A reaffirmation of liberty, inalienable rights, civil society, constitutional republicanism, instructive and informative, an incredible book for a perilous time.
It's an inspiring book, too.
And again, it's called Ameritopia, the unmaking of America.
It's a combination of you know taking utopia, uh, which is an impossible thing.
Utopia is impossible.
It's simply done, but the left is out searching for it, it's their quest, and that's what they want to turn America into, Ameritopia.
And it can't be done.
And they destroy the country in their effort to create this myth.
This mythological place that cannot.
It is impossible for there to be perfection in anything.
Nothing is perfect.
And yet that's their quest as they define it, but it's perverted all the way around.
So at least for now, I don't have to write another book.
But I will, at some point, I think the thing to do would be Vince Flynn has been After me.
He's been dogging me to do this.
It was actually his idea to do a compendium book on all the radio show monologues, which is a good idea.
And he said he would waive any commission, so I'm free to go there.
As I said, folks, we still have uh some debate sound bites to go because there are other sound bites uh than Newt's that we want to get to.
Did not intend this to be the all-Nute debate show.
Uh I have uh uh popular media figures uh wanting me to respond and writing me, oh, does this mean you've now shifted your support for Newt?
You know people are gonna follow what you say.
Does this mean Newt or Centaurum still have a chance?
I'm not going there.
I'm just reviewing the debate for you.
You all have your own minds that are gonna do what you do.
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