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Dec. 15, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 15, 2011, Thursday, Hour #2
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Hiya, folks, it's the Zane Rush Limbaugh here on the Zane EIB Network and the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Guess what?
I got a note from the Sullivan Group, the opinion auditing firm in Sacramento.
They're taking a new look.
They can't wait till the next quarter.
They can't wait till the next quarter.
I mean, there's been such a string.
This month and half of November, there has been such a string of nail in it that they have to factor this in.
We're hoping to get a revised opinion audit before everybody leaves for the Christmas break.
But they're looking at it.
And I didn't file an appeal.
I mean, I never do.
I take what they say and run with it.
They're doing this on their own.
Here's a telephone number if you want to be on the program.
800-282-2882, the email address.
El Rushboat, EIBNet.com.
This next story is a, I have to admit this is a twist.
It's a CNN story.
And it's about a political science professor at Ohio State who, get this, is worried that Obama is going to run a scorched earth campaign because he thinks that if Obama runs a scorched earth negative campaign, he's going to turn off the moderates and the independents.
This is the first time I can remember in my lifetime as a host that any political figure has said the Democrats will lose independence if they go negative.
I've never seen it written anywhere.
I've only seen that written about Republicans.
And they have to go negative.
All the Republicans have to do, as you all know, just be critical.
All the Republicans have to do, just mention his middle name.
Just bring up Jeremiah Wright.
Bring up Bill Ayers.
You go there.
You talk about him being Barack.
Who's saying Obama?
And you're going to send those independents.
And the moderates running right back to the Democrat Party and Obama.
I made a big deal out of this last night on a Greta show.
Made a big deal out of here.
You got Barbara Boxer accusing the Republicans who want to kill 8,100 people with the Keystone Pipeline legislation.
Kill 8,100.
Republicans want 8,100 people to die.
And I'm told that that's where the independents are going to run.
So this political science professor is, let's see, it's what is the type, the print's so small.
It's Andy Heller.
I believed in him 100%.
I thought it was going to be a big turnaround from President Bush, but now you have to wonder as 56 years old, a registered demon.
I don't think this guy's the professor.
He is, yeah, these are just average ordinary Americans who voted for Obama, didn't like at all what happened.
And so they went and talked to a political science professor.
Let's see if I can find this guy.
Maybe his name's on the second page.
I need to know who this guy is.
Yep.
Here we go.
Paul Beck.
The tactic has caught the attention of some of the nation's most astute political watchers, including Paul Beck, who studies and teaches political philosophy at the Ohio State University.
He's willing to take it to the Republicans, Beck says, but that's a course he's taking.
I'm not sure it's the course I would suggest.
Beck argues that taking a hardline, partisan stance now could turn off many of the moderate voters the president needs.
I've never seen this.
I have never seen a political scientist, media person, figure, whatever, worry that the Democrats are going to lose independence by going negative.
Have you?
I can't recall it, folks.
If it's ever happened, I honestly can't.
This is also good news, and this comes from the Washington Examiner, and it's about time.
You're going to cheer when you hear this.
Some politicians claim that politicians create jobs.
Senate majority leader Dingy Harry says, quote, my job is to create jobs, close quote.
What hubris.
It's a John Stossel story, by the way, in the Washington Examiner, John Stossel column.
Government has no money of its own.
All it does is take from some people and give it to others.
Government destroys wealth.
Government does not create wealth.
Since government commandeers scarce resources by force and doesn't have to peddle its so-called services on the market to consenting buyers, there's no feedback mechanism to indicate if those services are worth more to people than they were forced to go without.
Some CEOs are upset now that people don't appreciate what they do.
So they have formed a group called the Job Creators Alliance.
Brad Anderson, former CEO of Best Buy, joined the Job Creators Alliance because he wants to counter the image of business people as evil.
When he was young, Anderson himself thought business people were evil.
But then he stumbled into a business career by going to work in a stereo store.
I watched what happens in building a business.
My store, The Sound of Music, which became Best Buy, was 11 years old before I made a dollar of profit.
In 36 years, Mr. Anderson turned that store into a $50 billion company.
Tom Stemberg, the founder of Staples, got involved with the Job Creators Alliance because he's annoyed that government makes a tough job much tougher.
He complains that government mostly creates jobs that kill jobs.
He said, yeah, they're creating $300 million worth of jobs in this new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which I don't think is going to do much for productivity in America.
We're creating all kinds of jobs trying to live up to Dodd-Frank, and those jobs don't create any productivity.
All they're going to do is shut down others who are creative.
Now, Tom Stemberg runs a venture capital business.
I helped create over 100,000 jobs myself, he said.
Pinkberry and City Sports and Jay McLaughlin are growing and adding employment.
To do that, he had to overcome hurdles placed in away by government.
All that we get is grief and more hoops to jump through, more forms to fill out, more regulations to comply with.
Fastest growing investment segment in venture capitalism is compliance software.
The fastest growing investment segment in venture.
For those of you in Riolinda, venture capitalism is where a hedge fund guy or some other person with money decides to risk investing it in a startup, usually tech firm, but not restricted to tech firms.
They want to get in on the ground floor of the next big thing.
Could be Dropbox, could be Box.net, could be Flipbox, any number of things on the internet, for example.
They want to get in on the ground floor.
They might believe in it.
Now, that industry whose job is to provide seed capital, the fastest growing segment in venture capitalism is software to keep you compliant with government regulations.
Stop and think of that.
The fastest growing segment of an investment structure, business, is compliance software.
Compliance is a big word in business today.
Every business has to have a compliance department.
But resources are scarce.
So these departments suck away creativity.
It's one reason that these successful business people don't think they could do today what they did in the past.
They have to spend way too much time in compliance, meaning proving that they are following all rules and regulations.
Mike Whelan, CEO, Heart of America Group, said that he got started with loans from banks that took a chance on an unknown.
It's not an underwriting standard that can be dictated by Dodd-Frank with 55 pages.
It's kind of a gut instinct, whether or not to invest the money.
But John Allison, who built BB ⁇ T Corporation into the 12th biggest bank in America, says that gut instinct is now illegal because of Dodd-Frank and compliance.
Gut instinct is illegal.
It would be very difficult to do what we did then to do today.
It was semi-venture capital thing.
The government regulations today are so tight, including setting credit standards, particularly since the so-called financial crisis, since they changed the credit standards in the banking industry, it's making it very hard for the banks to finance small businesses.
Now, these successful businessmen realize that in one way they profit from the regulatory burden because they can absorb the cost.
It gives them an advantage over small competitors.
Small competitors can't afford this.
They don't even get started.
So there are fewer competitors.
That's how they profit from it.
They don't profit because of it per se.
It's not something that creates profit.
It limits competitors by limiting the number of guys who take a risk and start up because they don't have the money to pay for all these compliance costs and regulatory costs.
That's not good.
It's keeping people out of the startup market.
So anyway, what's great about this is, again, this is John Stossel and his syndicated column.
But what's great about this is that these people are fighting back.
They've had it.
They don't like the way they're being demonized.
Now, you watch what happens to these guys.
If their group here, the Job Creators Alliance, if it happens to get big and noteworthy, it is going to become a target just as these guys who founded it are.
Yeah, look at these rich guys trying to blame it on everybody, making excuses to themselves, whining moon rich guys.
Boo-hoo-hoo, look how hard their jobs are.
Ha ha ha.
Do this, folks.
Google the following search term.
Venture capital and compliance.
Venture capital and compliance.
You Google those exact words as a search term and you will get 18,500,000 results.
18,000,000.
One reason that Obama doesn't want companies to be able to continue to be political campaigns or contribute to political campaigns is so that they can't fight back.
That's why they hate Citizens United.
That decision.
They hate the fact that corporations, which are just people, can now get involved in the political process.
They hate it.
They despise it because that means corporations could fight back and they don't like this thing.
The Job Creators Alliance, no way.
These guys are going to be in the crosshairs of this regime before too long if they're not already.
Welcome back, folks.
We were talking about poverty.
in this country and how relative it is to poverty around the world.
And I mentioned Robert Rector at Heritage, who has made this his area of expertise to study poverty in America, compare it around the world.
I found a great chart here.
Now, we've used this chart a couple of times in the Limball letter, the most widely read political newsletter in the country.
I'm going to send this chart up to Coco, and I told him I'm going to be discussing this to put it up.
Percentage of poor U.S. households which have various amenities.
Refrigerator, 99%.
Television, 97%.
Stove and oven, 97%.
Microwave, 82%.
List goes on.
That's what it looks like.
It's a chart.
And so Coco will put it up.
And you'll have a chance to take a look at it because it is, they had the call.
A guy made a great point.
More and more people are told, more and more middle-class people are told they are living in poverty.
And furthermore, they're told that the rich are the reason.
The rich are responsible.
That's how Obama is running Scorched Earth.
That's how he's going to divide and rip this country apart as part of his reelection campaign.
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You wouldn't the number of people who have purchased 2F by tea, and they tell us in the comments section on our website at 2FBTea.com.
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You'll probably discover the same thing.
Now, yesterday was the introductory day for the new flavors, and in honor of the new flavors and the Christmas season, we are running our final big, huge sweepstakes of the year.
Never been done before.
Here's what it is.
Four extremely lucky winners will get two golden EIB tickets.
The Golden EIB tickets allows exclusive access to the studio here at the Southern Command in sunny South Florida.
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The moment we pick you up, well, not mean, but you're going to think so because Snerdley has to decide in five seconds whether somebody's qualified or not.
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But it's what the job requires.
It's what the job requires.
You're going to be able to witness this.
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Not this one.
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So you can't tell anybody where you've been.
We will blindfold you before you leave.
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That's just a precaution that we take for practically everybody that comes here.
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So that's what we've never, one time we've had guests in here, members of the audience, to watch the program, and that was around the leukemia and lymphoma society radio-thon.
And people had donated, what was it, $200,000 each or three, three, yeah, $300,000 each, and then we threw that in as an incentive.
I matched it.
Yes, of course, always do.
So this is the first time we've done anything like this.
And of course, we'll coordinate it at a time where it's toughest for you to make it.
No, yeah, I mean, we're coordinated at a time when it's easiest for you to make it.
The blindfold thing, well, I insisted on that one.
You know, I said, no, Catherine, we're blindfolding these.
Really?
Yes.
We're going to blindfold them from the moment they walk out of the hotel.
We're going to blindfold them right before they get in the car.
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Add to the intrigue, in fact.
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Okay, James in Columbus, Ohio.
Glad you waited.
You're next on the EIB network.
Hi.
How you doing?
Just fine, sir.
Thanks very much.
Good.
This is following up on that little article you read about the, I guess there was some professor that felt like Obama should not do the scorched earth campaign.
Yeah, no.
I'm saying, why not?
Why shouldn't he fight back?
I mean, the guy has been denigrated from day one.
What's the problem?
Don't want him to fight back?
Well, this professor, see, this is a theory, James, that the Republicans have been told for decades that the moderates, the independents, don't like fights.
They don't like confrontation.
They don't like arguments.
They want people working together and compromising, crossing the aisle.
So the Republicans don't fight back.
The Republicans sit there and suck on their thumbs and try to showbody how nice they are, hoping to impress the moderates.
But the same thing has never been said about Democrats.
This is the first time that a political official has told a Democrat, by the way, you're going to scare the moderates off if you, by the way, this is not, he's worried about Obama going scorched earth, not just being critical, not fighting back.
He's worried that Obama is going to literally rip the country in two.
And he thinks if he does that, he's going to squander all of the votes of the moderates and independents.
What does that mean, scorched earth and fighting back?
What's the difference?
Well, the result is different.
Scorched earth means the country is perpetually divided, constantly at war with itself, that nothing can ever get done after that, that it's just everything's broken, broken down.
Nobody trusts anybody.
Fighting back is simply defending yourself against false allegations, and none of those are being made about Obama.
Everything being said about it is true.
Well, I don't agree with you there.
Everything you're saying is not true.
But what I'm saying is the conditions that you just described is already going on and has been going on since George Bush was in office.
Basically, the country is divided.
Nobody trusts anyone and nothing is getting done.
That's not just started.
Well, no, that isn't true.
All kinds of stuff's getting done, and it's not good.
Health care got done.
Not good.
Stimulus got done.
Not good.
Expanding the debt limit got done.
Not good at all.
I didn't have health care until then.
And so to me, that is good because I couldn't afford to send him to the hospital.
Right.
And my son was actually, he was down here in Columbus at Red, White, and Boom, which is a fireworks display.
And there's always some bad element down there.
My son minded his own business, and he caught two in each of his legs.
Now, he didn't do anything to deserve that, but I couldn't afford to all that money they wanted, and they still want money, but he had his son.
Now, without that, I would still be in debt.
So, to me, that is a good thing.
Maybe you don't have children, or maybe you don't have to worry about it, but some of us still have to worry about it.
No, no, no, no, no.
You're not going to like this, James.
Of course not.
The difference is that you are apparently perfectly fine with your neighbors and people you don't know paying your health care bill.
I'm not.
I work, so I'm paying it.
Nobody's paying anything for me, sir.
I've been working ever since I was 17 years old and served this country for nine years.
Disagree with you.
Nobody's ever bought for anything for me.
Anything I'm paying for.
With Obamacare, you're not going to be, in fact, you're going to be told you're not paying.
Somebody else is going to pay.
You're not paying for it.
But I'm going to be paying either way because those same people are going to go to the emergency room.
They can't be turned down.
So I'd rather know who I'm paying for than not know.
I mean, come on.
It's just basic.
No, look at this.
It's a serious thing.
This is why it's not good.
You are, and a lot of Americans are just assuming that you have a medical emergency or any kind of health care that it just ought to be.
We all ought to get together and pay for it.
We all ought to cover it.
Somebody else ought to pay for it.
This is what Obama is fostering.
This is what he's promoting.
If something happens to them, they're not allowed to be turned away.
So what's going to happen then?
You're going to have somebody posted there and saying, hey, we can't do that.
Well, who do you think ends up paying for that when the patient can't?
So we're going to pay for it either way.
That's what we've been doing for all since I can remember.
Well, actually, I have a little newsflash for you.
The fact of the matter is, you are ultimately going to be paying far more for your health care than you do now because of Obamacare.
You actually are, to be honest with you.
You're going to be shocked at what you're going to be paying for health care and that you are going to have to come up with.
And you are going to be required to have insurance, or you may go to jail.
You're going to be required to pay your copay, your deductible.
If you can't, they're going to be able to put you in jail.
Well, I don't believe that for a minute.
Well, it's in the law.
It's one of the 2,000 pages.
Nancy Pelosi has said she thinks it's justified.
I don't think so.
That sounds a little far-fetched to me.
But again, health insurance was already going up at the time.
You know what?
James, I'm glad it sounds like the premium go up.
Well, I'm glad it's not going to make much of a difference.
It's going up anyway.
Maybe he doesn't.
It doesn't slow it down.
James, it doesn't have to go up.
That's the whole point.
It doesn't have to go up.
There are fixes for this.
There are reforms for this.
But the price of everything on balance over time, yeah, always goes up.
But never like health care costs go up.
What if hotel rooms cost what hospital rooms cost?
What if the automobile business was priced the way the healthcare business is?
This can't go on as it is.
I'm glad you think that this jail business is far-fetched because it's true.
I know you don't want to believe it.
I know you don't want to believe 90% of what is in this health care bill.
I know you don't want to believe how much freedom you will lose when this thing becomes law, fully implemented.
I know you don't want to believe that, but it doesn't matter.
You're going to find out if it's implemented.
You will find out and you will remember this day when I told you.
You're going to find out how much more expensive it's going to be.
You're going to find out that your kid may not.
It's going to be up to some bureaucrat whether your kid gets treated.
And when you get older, there's going to be a panel of people deciding whether or not it makes sense to spend federal dollars on your health care, depending on whether they think it's worth it.
That's not a catch.
They're going to determine: is it makes sense to cure you of whatever you've got based on your age, how productive you're going to be.
And if they decide you are a losing proposition, they're going to tell you to take a pain pill, which Obama told a woman who asked about her mother in this circumstance.
I think we're just going to have to tell them to take a pain pill.
James, I have no reason to lie to you.
There's nothing in it for me to be wrong anytime, ever.
I'm glad you called, though.
I apologize.
We can't have a conversation because you're on a cell phone and you can't hear me when you're talking.
And it's just, I don't know why.
Apparently, one of these things we're never going to be able to fix.
So I apologize for that, but I got to go.
We'll be back after this brief timeout.
Don't go away.
All right.
I have received, ladies and gentlemen, I'm glad I got emails in this.
I was not going to discuss this other than the brief mention I gave it.
But I've had a lot of emails in the subscriber account, the website subscriber Rush247 account, wanting to know what I think of National Review's editorial late yesterday afternoon, National Review Online and the magazine.
It's Mr. Buckley's William F. Buckley Jr.'s magazine.
And I mentioned this the other day.
I'm sort of imprisoned here and limited by what I can discuss because I, of course, make everything bigger than it is when it's just standing alone.
And not to put down National Review or anything of the sort, but this audience is far bigger than their blog subscriber base.
And so if I talk about it, it's going to just take it to more people.
And I decide do I want that to happen or not.
So I wasn't going to really talk about it because I'm not convinced that it has that much impact.
National Review used to, indisputably, it was the voice of conservatism.
There was no question.
Now it's not so much that as it is the voice of Republicanism, which could also be said to be the inside the beltway or the Washington, New York conservatism.
They've got great people there.
There's some nice people, but it's changed a bit from what it was.
They had an editorial yesterday, unsigned, which meant that it was written by a number of editors that didn't endorse anybody, but just excoriated Newt Gingrich.
It wasn't the long knives came out, the bayonets came out.
It was scorched earth.
It was crash and burn.
The implication in the editorial was they were for Romney, but the only other candidate they actually disparaged to were Ron Paul and Rick Perry.
They held out hope for Bachman and Santorum.
But the point of the editorial was to tell anybody and everybody who read it to forget Newt.
So people are wondering, what do you think of this?
Now, I should say that Romney was the National Review endorsement pick in December 2007.
And I think they endorsed Romney.
Yeah, it was December 2007 for the 2008 race.
And of course, that was the campaign that McCain eventually won.
But I think what's happening here is not just national review.
There are a lot of so-called conservative media publications inside the Beltway and in New York.
There are other elected Republicans, some of them who work very closely with Newt, who have just fired both barrels.
And it's starting to take a toll.
Newt's numbers have peaked.
Newt is starting to fall away in Iowa and New Hampshire.
It's not that he's just leveled off.
He's starting to fall away now.
George Will has called Newt a Marxist.
Others have piled on pretty heavily some pretty rough stuff.
And Newt's opened the door to it.
I mean, Newt going after Romney as a guy who destroys companies and jobs.
Bain Capital, I think, was involved in the mergers of 150 or so different companies and corporations, and only two of them went out of business.
So Romney's Bain Capital does not destroy jobs, did not destroy jobs or eliminate companies.
Anyway, Newt launches that.
Romney, in his own self, has come out for global warming.
It's man-made.
In 2002, he said he's not a partisan Republican, that he's a moderate.
Here's the thing.
I think if you add all of these things, the National Reviews, all of the other places that are piling on Newt, they are accomplishing something.
And what they are accomplishing is making Ron Paul a serious player in Iowa.
And I don't think that's their intention.
But that's the unintended consequence here.
Romney, as we have discussed, remains on top in Iowa and New Hampshire, but his numbers don't move.
Romney's still stuck at 23 in Iowa.
New Hampshire in the latest Rasmussen is at 35.
But that's the only place Mitt Romney is above 25 or 30.
He just can't crack that number other than New Hampshire, which is, of course, close to where he was governor in Massachusetts.
So what I've said, and this is true, the Republican establishment has succeeded now.
They are managing to split the conservative vote here in the primary to take down every one of them who manages to break out.
Newt's just the latest one, but there was Ron Paul in there and Rick Perry for a while, Michelle Bachman, when each of these not Romney's surfaces, they're taken out.
The conservative vote is being split in a Republican primary.
It's unprecedented, really.
The Republican establishment from the beginning has said, we're going to nominate a guy.
We're not going to miss with this go to the right during the primaries business and move to the center.
We're going to start in the center and we're going to stay there.
We're going to nominate a moderate.
And that's, they settled on Romney a long time ago.
Newt is now down 12 points, and Ron Paul is up eight points since last month.
There is an anti-Romney sentiment out there.
It's illustrated by the fact that he just can't crack that 30% anywhere other than New Hampshire.
But the problem with that is that the anti-Mitt tide, anybody but Romney group, can't decide where to go now.
So with Newt being harpooned by everybody else, some of them are jumping on board with Ron Paul.
Well, imagine your Tea Party, you're a conservative primary voter, and every you're not in favor of Romney.
You're a little worried about Romney.
You know that he's not conservative enough for you.
But every time somebody who is more conservative than Romney in your mind surfaces, take him out.
Something happened.
What would you do?
You're going to find something.
They're just the fact they will not go to Romney for whatever reason, they're looking down the road for anywhere else.
Rick Perry right now is at 10.
Bachman is at 9.
Santorum is at 6.
If you combine those numbers with Newt's 20 and the 8 that just joined the usual 10 on the poll bandwagon, you've got to combine 53%.
53% and I were saying anybody but Romney.
But neither of them are individually large enough to win there.
I just checked the email.
Some snarky guy.
Why don't you talk about who Newt says his favorite presidents are?
Carol Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson NTR.
We did yesterday.
I'm sorry you missed it.
I did point it all out.
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