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Dec. 12, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 12, 2011, Monday, Hour #3
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Welcome back, folks.
Great to have you here as I, Rush Limboy, your host and guiding light.
I am having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have as America's real anchor man, truth detector, and doctor of democracy.
All combined in one harmless, lovable little fuzzball.
Our telephone number if you want to be on the program.
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If you're just joining us, we just had a call from a nice guy, Malibu want to know what you know.
You keep saying Mitt Romney's not conservative.
What or as a moderate?
What is it?
It makes him a moderate to you.
And I cited a couple things, but I said the thing that really got me was back in June when I heard him answer a question about global warming.
And what just I just did I cast it aside.
Here it is.
By this time in the pro I got so many loose pieces of paper around here.
No, it wouldn't be possible to put it all on a computer's monitor.
That's why this still has to be done with paper.
Anyway.
He was in uh he was in uh New Hampshire in Manchester, former Governor Mitt Romney at a town hall meeting.
And during the QA, a member of the new Castrati who got in there, asked him a question.
Mithra Romney, nearly all the other candidates said, yes, that there's no scientific consensus on climate change.
And some of them think that it's not even occurring.
And we cannot even have a meaningful discussion, sir, about the Luthan until there's agreement with the problem.
Will you, sir, state now that under a Romney regime, global warming will be ahead of reality, and that this reality will form the foundation for all climate and energy policy.
It's obviously a set-up question.
It's obviously somebody from New Castrati got in there, and here's the answer.
I believe the world is getting warmer.
I can't prove that, but I believe based on what I read that the world is getting warmer.
And number two, I believe the humans contribute to that.
I don't know how much our contribution is to that, because I know there's been there have been periods of greater heat and warmth in the past, but but I believe that we contribute to that.
And so I think it's important for us to reduce our emissions of pollutants and greenhouse gases that may well be significant contributors to the climate change and the global warming that you're seeing.
Now it wasn't through.
He went on to say the following: "I'm told that we use almost twice as much energy per person as does a European.
And more like three times as much energy as does a Japanese citizen.
We can do a lot better.
I remember first commenting on this when it happened.
And I had people say, but Rush, come on now.
You know, he's uh he had similar uh uh climate policies when he was governor of Massachusetts.
It's a liberal state, Rush.
He's got to say these.
That's my point.
If he's going to say what his audience requires, what does that tell you?
Do I ever do that?
I I'm just gonna tell you, I never once asked myself what I think you want to hear.
It never even crosses my mind.
But a politician who does is essentially saying that they make calculations, and they will deviate from their core if necessary, in order to have an audience hear what they want to hear.
Now, maybe that's what you have to do to get votes in politics.
Maybe that's what some consultant tells him he's got to do to get votes.
Well, well, of course there's the possibility he's just being honest, too.
He might really believe this.
Could very well be that he believes this, too.
Yes.
In which case, I mean the question answers itself.
That is uh is all I'm saying.
I'm looking for a story of this.
I've got a stack here that talks about some condition here about oh, it's a story in the Dead Sea.
A story of when the Dead Sea died.
You know the Dead Sea is.
Well, there's a there's a big geographic story here on when the Dead Sea died, and it talks about the excruciating Heat of 120,000 years ago that brought about the death of the Dead Sea.
And I said, wait a minute, there weren't any man-made chlorofluorocarbons or wasn't any CO2 emissions, none of the so-called rot gut that we are being accused of of causing global warming.
It got so hot 120,000 years ago it killed the Dead Sea.
Really?
This is all a hoax.
It is a hoax.
It is learnable.
It's demonstrable it's a hoax.
I'm sorry if somebody doesn't see that.
I have a problem.
Can't do anything about that.
I've got a problem with it.
It isn't hard.
It isn't hard to call liberalism a hoax.
It isn't hard to accurately characterize liberalism.
It isn't hard or difficult to accurately characterize Obama or any other liberal.
It's very easy to do.
A reluctance to do so on somebody's part gives me pause.
Makes me uncomfortable.
Because it's so obvious.
The failures, the failings, the problems, the destructiveness of liberalism, socialism, Marxism.
Why anybody wants to adopt their language even from time to time?
I don't understand it.
Mr. Lumbo, you mother, this is why you could never be a politician because two politicians, people are just different all over the group.
No, you don't.
Not really.
I mean, look at it.
Is Tebow compromising?
I just throwing it out there.
Just no, he's not trying to do anything but win games, and he's inspiring people by being himself.
He's not trying to fake it up or phony it up.
He's not trying to be somebody he isn't.
He's not trying to do things he can't do.
But what he's doing, it really isn't that complicated.
Every player on the offense and defensive side of the ball to Denver Broncos think they're going to win.
Even when they're down 10 points in the fourth quarter with three minutes, they think they're going to win.
Not by just standing by doing nothing, waiting for somebody else to do it.
They think that they're going to win.
It's a confidence thing.
Oh my.
12 points of I know it really isn't this complicated.
Politics is made way more complicated than it needs to be.
And I'm going to tell you what it is, folks.
I'm going to tell you the problem we run into.
Problem we run into is that every one of our candidates think that to win, they have to somehow get a majority of the 20% who admit they don't know what's going on.
The independents, the moderates, the undecided.
We have an entire group of career people known as political consultants who tell people that's where you win.
And these same people tell our candidates that the fastest way to offend the people you need to win is to be conservative.
Really is no more complicated than that.
Our consultants think that conservatism scares independence away because they're shaped, molded, and formed by the Goldwater campaign.
I know you may not believe me, it's true.
They don't look to the Reagan years as inspiration.
They look at the Goldwater years, and that's the formative event in a lot of Republicans' lives.
This happened, I just remember this.
Happened Saturday night.
Me, we are at Nick and Sam's having dinner.
Catherine and I, with some with some good friends.
And it's noisy in there.
Know that going in.
Place jam-packed.
It's hip.
It's happening.
I mean, it's a wonderful place.
And a lot of giants, New York Giants people showed up for dinner.
It was about, we got there at eight, the giants people showed up, uh, sort of radio media people.
Howard Cross and Carl Banks.
And former players, Carl Banks, former number 58, great linebacker.
And as they walked in, they stopped at a table because they they knew our guest.
And Carl Banks leans across the table, shakes my hand, and starts, and I can't hear a word of what he said.
Not a word.
I could have said I can't hit there was nothing he could have done.
He would have had to get around the table and speak right into my ear.
It was that there's nothing he could have done.
He didn't know that.
I don't even know if he knows I've lost my hair.
So I just had to take a stab.
I just since he reached out and shook my hand, I figured that he was saying something nice, so I said, thank you very much.
When he walked away, Catherine said, that was good.
He was telling you he enjoys your radio show.
I didn't hear a word.
I would never.
Now, suppose he had said, you're the biggest SOB.
Thank you very much.
Well, yeah, it still might have worked, but uh anyway, I'm gonna go to the uh, we're gonna start with some of the debate sound bites.
I don't know how many of you saw it.
Snerdley didn't see it.
Did you watch it, Don?
You watched half of it.
The people I talked to who did thought it was one of the best.
That that everybody in it did well on balance.
Well, you disagree with that, Snerdley.
Oh, he's upset.
Of course you would miss the best.
That's I've a lot of people, I haven't heard anybody tell me they thought it was bad.
Um but I think here's here's a uh question from Stephanopoulos.
That this is interesting.
This is this quick goes by six seconds.
Should voters consider marital fidelity when making their choices for president.
Right.
Now, here's the guy who worked the bimbo eruptions war room for Bill Clinton.
Here's the guy who worked the bimbo eruptions war war room for Clinton with James Carville asking this question.
And you know, these guys will gladly, our guys will gladly go to a debate moderated by Stefan or Diane by Diane Sawyer.
I did listen to some.
The questions, the tone of oh my goodness.
Her questions went twice as long as some answers while she's lecturing the candidates on sticking to the time limit.
But these guys, they don't want to go to Trump's debate, but they'll let Stephanopoulos ask him this stupid question about fidelity while it from the guy who who covered them all up for Clinton.
Well, I mean, let's go back.
This this is from the film The War Room.
And this is Stephanopoulos talking about taking somebody or talking somebody out of making an allegation of infidelity against Clinton.
Thank you yourself.
I guarantee you that if you do this, you'll never work in democratic politics again.
Nobody will believe you.
And people will think you're scummy.
The alternative is you don't do it.
It causes you some temporary pain with people who tomorrow aren't going to matter.
And you have a campaign that understands it in a difficult time.
He did something right.
That's that's Stephanopoulos from the war room, the movie made about how he and Carville fended all this stuff up, and he's talking to a potential bimbo eruption, and he's threatening her.
You don't do it.
You don't do it.
And now he gets to turn around, he gets to ask our guys.
Uh whether it ought to matter.
No, Clinton told the girl put some ice on it.
Stephanopoulos didn't do that.
Here's Newt on the infidelity question.
Uh Stephanopoulos said, Speaker Gingrich, what do voters need to know about this issue?
Infidelity from your perspective.
I think it is a real issue.
I think people have to look at the person to whom they're going to loan the presidency.
And they have the right to ask every single question.
They have to have a feeling that this is a person that they can trust to the level of power we give to the presidency.
I've said up front openly.
I've made mistakes at times.
I've had to go to God for forgiveness.
I've had to seek reconciliation.
But I'm also a 68-year-old grandfather.
And I think people have to measure who I am now and whether I'm a person they can trust.
All right.
That's the answer.
Not much you can do with that question.
I mean, it it is what it is.
Um I don't have any experience at it, so I don't know how I'd answer it.
But I know everyone's uh the people I talked to thought everybody in this debate handled it well.
Here's the here's the bet business.
This is uh uh let's see.
Rick Perry says, um I read your first book, Sorry to Romney.
I read your first book.
And uh it said in there that uh your mandate in Massachusetts should be the model for the country.
And I and I know it came out of the reprint of the book.
It's not in the reprint of the book, Mitt.
You know, I'm just saying you were for individual mandates, my friend.
You know what?
You've raised that before, Rick.
And uh it was true then.
No, no.
It's true now.
Rick, I'll I'll tell you what.
10,000 bucks.
$10,000 bet.
$10,000.
Rick, you're just wrong.
I never came out for the individual mandate.
$10,000.
Now, what Romney should have remembered is this from Perry on September 12th in Tampa.
Yes, sir.
The company was Merck, and it was a $5,000 contribution that I had received from them.
I raise about $30 million.
And if you're saying that I can be bought for $5,000, I'm offended.
I'm a I'm offended for all the little girls and the parents that didn't have a choice.
That's what I'm offended for.
Okay, so Perry admits he can't be bought for five grand.
Romney should have known 10 wouldn't do it.
I think this I think this bet was hyperbole.
I I think it was a toss-off, but the media doesn't.
The media.
Perry should have taken the money.
But but there were the reaction.
Perry's reaction was, what I you got ten grand to throw around?
That's not what regular people.
Mitt, regular people don't have ten thousand dollars to throw around.
And the truth is that Mitt Romney does have ten thousand dollars to throw around and not really miss it.
That's why some people if you're gonna bet something, it's me.
You know, bet one of your houses.
You really mean this.
Anyway, we got a break.
We'll continue with this when we get back.
And we are back.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Get this, uh, folks.
According to the Wisconsin Journal Times teachers in four out of eleven screwels in Racine County, Wisconsin, have decided to disband the unions they paid dues into for years.
Becky Seitz, the former union president, stated in the 30-some years that we were part of the American Federation of Teachers Union.
We never had to use their services.
There were never any grievances that warranted that.
She said, explaining teachers found it unnecessary to keep paying monthly dues of about $50 when they weren't using union services.
So at $50 a month, a 30-year teacher paid $18,000 for services that were never used.
So they're disbanding the teachers' union in four of those.
What is it?
Uh four out of eleven schools in Racine County.
Is it Racine or Racine?
What is it?
Racine County.
Um that's not one of these isolated uh insignificant stories.
Teachers' unions, unions in general of Wisconsin Big News.
Teacher disbanding one.
Here is, by the way, we are at audio soundbite number 14.
This is a media month.
As soon as the debate was over on the ABC, the analysts were chomping at the bit to talk about Romney's $10,000 bet.
The fact that Mitt Romney was trying to wager a $10,000 bet uh in a debate in Iowa, the median income in this country means that $10,000 is roughly three months' income.
Not too many caucus goers here in Iowa would ever place a $10,000 bet, uh, even if it was a sure thing.
It really is Mitt Romney who made most of the headlines, and not all of them were very good.
Obviously, the $10,000 bet being the top one here.
So the media consensus after the debate was that Romney had had uh committed a tactical error by betting an amount of money that the average Hawkeye cockeye attendee will never see.
And certainly would never wager.
And therefore uh failed in the uh important area of relating to the Hawkeye Cockye attendee.
So forth.
That was their.
Now here's here's Perry on the bet.
We we've got uh I guess Sunday of Fox News and Iowa Public TV's conversations with the candidates is a montage of Perry talking about Romney's wager of ten grand in the debate the night before.
Driving out to the station this morning, I'm pretty sure I didn't drive by a house uh that anyone uh in Iowa would even think about that a ten thousand dollar bet was possible.
Holy mackerel.
That's just a lot of money for most people, and I guess not for Myth.
Well, it's not a lot of money for Met.
But holy mackerel, it is a lot of money for Hawkeye Calcai attendees.
A lot of money for most people, especially to bet now to say that most people wouldn't bet it even if it was a sure thing, that's go a little far.
We got gamblers throughout this country.
I mean, every time you vote for a Democrat, it's a giant gamble with your own money.
Let's see here.
Uh and we've got more.
This is this is um uh Fox and Friends this morning.
Romney's on there.
Brian Kilmead says you wanted to bet him ten grand.
Do you think you sent the wrong message to the people of Iowa?
This was uh an outrageous number uh to uh to answer an outrageous charge from him, and it's been proven wrong time and time again.
He keeps raising it, and I said, Okay, let's put something outrageous out there.
It's like saying, hey, I'll bet you a million bucks, uh, X, Y, or Z. Afterwards, my wife came up and she said, Mitt, it was a great debate.
You're great at a lot of things, just not betting.
So we're over with that.
Oh, okay.
So if wife didn't like it, say no more bets.
Not happening anymore.
Michelle Obama spends ten grand in tips on hotels in Spain.
Michelle Obama probably spends ten thousand dollars a toe getting a pedicure.
And look at everybody's all up in arms here about Romney wagering ten grand.
That's um I just folks, I just I literally I f I find all this stuff interesting.
Now, Newt's comment on the Palestinians.
Ho ho ho!
Has that ruffled some feathers?
This is Newt.
We go to Friday on the Jewish channel, cable network correspondent Stephen Weiss interviewed Gingrich, and this is what Newt said about the Palestinian people.
There was no Palestine as a state.
It's part of the Ottoman Empire.
Uh, and I think that uh we've had an invented Palestinian people uh who are in fact Arabs and historically part of the Arab community.
Oh, folks, that is lighting dynamite.
That's light and dynamite and throwing it in a crowd of liberals.
Oh, I know it's 100% true.
Golden Mayor said the same thing.
Numerous statesmen and women have said the same thing, but the conventional wisdom is something different now.
The Palestinians are a historical people.
And they are living in an historical place stolen from them.
I mean, that's that's well, they should go to Jordan, they should go to any yeah, well, not just Jordan, other places too, but but there never was.
There's not a race of people called a Palestinians.
It just did there never has been.
And Newt's right about this.
But they exist as a foil for the other.
I mean, I tell you who sells the Palestinians out all the time, is the other Arabs.
What happens to the Palestinians, basically what they do to themselves is the is what the rest of the uh Arab terrorist world points to says, see, that's why the Jews are so bad.
Look what the Jews are doing to our people.
And of course, you need that to keep happening if you want to keep blaming it all on the on the Jews.
So uh Gingrich and Romney spar over his remark.
Newt starts off, this is in the debate Saturday.
Newt starts off explaining that he was right about it.
Is what I said factually correct?
Yes.
Is it historically true?
Yes.
Are we in a situation where every day rockets are fired into Israel while the United States, the current administration tries to pressure the Israelis into a peace process?
Somebody ought to have the courage to tell the truth.
These people are terrorists, they teach terrorism in their schools.
They have textbooks that say if there are 13 Jews and nine Jews are killed, how many Jews are left?
We pay for those textbooks through our aid money.
It's fundamentally at the time for somebody to have the guts to stand up and say, enough lying about the Middle East.
Okay.
That's one of these I mean, dead-on truth again, but the truth's politically incorrect because it's so threatening to people.
Upsets AppleCarts.
Here's Romney's reply.
Anything I say that can affect a place with with rockets going in, with people dying, I don't do anything that would harm that that process.
And therefore, before I made a statement of that nature, I get on the phone to my friend BB not in Yahoo.
And say, would it help if I said this?
What would you like me to do?
Let's work together because we're partners.
I'm not a bomb thrower.
Rhetorically or literally.
Okay, so Romney, instead of saying that, what I do, I call BB.
I call my buddy B. They got into an argument over who knows Bibi the better.
I call my buddy BB.
I say, look, I'm thinking about saying this.
Do you think I should say it if you don't?
I won't say it.
I want to do whatever I can.
We need to work together.
Okay, so Newt, Newt then replied after Romney said he's not a bomb thrower, literally or rhetorically.
And say, let's work together.
I want to tell the truth about the Palestinians, but I won't if you don't let me.
Here's what Newt said.
I think sometimes it is helpful to have a president of the United States with the courage to tell the truth, just as was Ronald Reagan who went around his entire national security apparatus to call the Soviet Union an evil empire, and who overruled his entire State Department in order to say, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.
Reagan believed the power of truth, restated the world and reframed the world.
I'm a Reaganite.
I'm proud to be a Reaganite.
I will tell the truth, even if it's at the risk of causing some confusion sometimes with the Timothy.
Confusion with the timid.
Should I remind him, Mr. Snerkley?
Should I remind him?
When the chorus began, the era of Reagan is over.
Newt was right in there with it.
Just saying, just saying.
But you can't deny these answers, statements in this debate are grand slam home runs.
He didn't say he called BB for permission.
Let's talk about it.
Let's work together.
Let's figure out what's going on here.
Um what's absurd about this?
We're supposed to we're we're supposed to be upset here that something Newt Gingrich says is gonna whip up the Palestinians.
They're already whipped up.
Nothing Newt says is gonna make terrorists even more terroristic.
That's what's inside.
You're gonna really that's we're trying to have peace with these people.
How dare you tell the truth about Yeah, Newt's gonna do that that's what's right.
Can't tell the truth too many times.
In our culture today, it's a problem.
Newt Gingrich has responded to a candidate pledge circulated by an Iowa social conservative group, the family leader.
And uh uh Newt essentially has pledged not to cheat on his latest wife.
And he hadn't signed it yet, but in a long written statement responding to it, he said, I I pledged uphold the institution of marriage through personal fidelity to my spouse and respect for the marital bonds of others.
So Newt's gonna sign the I won't cheat pledge.
Uh pledge to uphold the institution of marriage through personal fidelity to my latest spouse.
No, he didn't put a time frame on it.
He just said he's gonna do it.
He's gonna not gonna do it in this case, pledge not to cheat.
I thought you did that in your wedding vows, but what do I know?
I've only done it three times myself.
Um not the other.
Bruce, Muskegon, Michigan.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Good afternoon, Newt.
How are you?
I'm sorry, I was listening to you talk about Newt.
I' Roger, honored to speak with you.
Um I have a theory which I like you to comment on.
I tell you, Newt's gonna lose a lot of Democrat voters with that pledge.
You're gonna lose a lot of moderate independence.
They love cheating.
They love that since they don't want any value.
Newt, I would have advised him not to take the pledge, but that's just me.
What what's up, Bruce?
Well, I have a like so the theory.
Uh be call me cynical, but I think that uh Kagan uh has recruits herself uh from the decision to uh take the I have a theory on why I believe Kagan is recused herself from from taking the from the decision to take the immigration case.
I think she's doing it because um when Obamacare comes around, she will be able to be she'll be in a position, at least she thinks she'll be in a position, where she's gonna be saying, say, I'm honest, I have integrity, I have no conflict of interest, because she she'll say, uh, if I did, of course, I would recuse myself just like I did on the uh the immigration case.
Yeah, you might you might you might have a point there.
I wouldn't put it past these sneaks.
Um, but this one she was actively involved in this immigration business as solicitor just as she was with healthcare, and the emails are there to prove it.
But this this could be a way of saying, oh, I recuse myself when it's warranted.
See, I did it.
There's no call for it here in healthcare.
By the way, I asked a question earlier night, I know the answer I just didn't answer it.
What happens in a tie?
Supreme Court decision is 4-4.
The lower court decision stands.
Whatever it was.
The last court decision in the chain stands if the Supreme Court ties on a 4-4 race.
This is why Tim Tebow has him confounded.
Tim Tebow, my teammates make me look a lot better than I am.
And when he says it, he means it.
He's not uh saying fluff to sound good.
He really means it.
My teammates make me look a lot better than I am.
And you contrast that with Obama today, with uh with Malachy.
Obama taking credit today for the fact that Iraq is ostensibly democratic, and that our troops are now coming home.
This is all the George if you know if if if Obama were really a unifier says he is, he really wanted to make a big deal.
You bring Bush in there for joint appearance here for this thing, because everybody knows this is Bush's deal, but here he is trying to hog the credit for it.
And look who is universally respected for not doing it.
Tebo.
We'll see you tomorrow, folks.
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